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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

The professor is the guy that instigated, as a “mentor”, all of the summer of 2020 fallout with the players that bled over into none of them except for Ehlinger staying to sing The Eyes after the OU loss. 

Witnessing that in the stands led to Ewers decommitting and signing with Ohio State. Also, that game fundamentally shifted where the $$ was landing for or against Herman. 

So my view is that that professor can go get fucked and sell his divisive woke nonsense elsewhere if I could have a wand, but I’m glad he accidentally got rid of Tom Herman for us. 

Also, fuck Caden Stearns. 

Brees had two D1 offers - Purdue and Kentucky. There’s nothing revisionist in terms of the million reasons why almost everyone, including Texas, did not go after Brees. 

Brock Berlin wasn’t in the same class. He was recruited during the Mack Brown era when Evangel and Miami were both machines. 

Thanks for the clarification about Brock.  The years start to blend together after a quarter century.

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8 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I think Brees had strong aggy family connections -- like maybe his parents went there. Story I always heard was that RC pulled his scholarship offer when he tore up his knee so Brees went to Purdue. Not sure he would've considered Texas even if Mackovic was interested.

His uncle is Marty Akins and one of his grandfathers was a Texas HS coaching legend at Gregory Portland - he sent players to all kinds of colleges. The guy was begging for offers. His parents weren’t keeping from Texas if Mackovic would have listened to Randy Rodgers and offered him. 

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

I've followed Texas recruiting pretty closely back then (IE used to go to all the recruiting meetups/events, subscribed to the newsletters, interned in the sports department at KXAN, etc.) but don't recall anyone saying he was too short.

Of course that was pre-internet, and I also remember assuming Major Applewhite was black, and that we only recruited him to try to get Travis Minor.

You are mixing and matching a lot of shit in these posts, man. 

That era was not “pre-Internet” and the AAS had a massive forum base covering all Big 12 programs. The biggest one was the Texas forum, which was the precursor to Hornfans. The Brees stuff that persists to this day - much of it started there. 

Also, they of course wanted Minor, but Mackovic simply thought that Applewhite looked like a player and wanted the guy on the team. 

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13 minutes ago, TxEx84 said:

Had to read the article.  He will be a grad transfer.  Makes more sense to get that Princeton degree then play one more year where they care about football.

Have a friend whose nephew was a very good high school basketball player. He got some mid major offers, a few low level Tier 2 state school offers, and he received an offer from Harvard. Like all kids he wanted to play for Duke or some big state basketball brand, so he wanted to hold out. His family told him not to be regarded and said "You're going to Harvard, it's done." 

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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

That era was not “pre-Internet

Well, technically neither was the 80's, but how many of us were on it.

I guarantee I was active on the internet before you.  I was doing War Games shit in the early 80's using an acoustic coupler.  And I was one of 5 people in UT's ACT lab starting in 1992 coding in Unix and HTML to build webpages.  Hell, I blew out the UT server posting a clip of Stonie Clark in 1994.  

Who the fuck cares if the AAS had an online forum in 1997, less than 20% of the country had Internet access, so if you want to be a pedantic prick, as usual, go ahead, but you know what the fuck I meant by pre-Internet ...and a message board isn't it.

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27 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Well, technically neither was the 80's, but how many of us were on it.

I guarantee I was active on the internet before you.  I was doing War Games shit in the early 80's using an acoustic coupler.  And I was one of 5 people in UT's ACT lab starting in 1992 coding in Unix and HTML to build webpages.  Hell, I blew out the UT server posting a clip of Stonie Clark in 1994.  

Who the fuck cares if the AAS had an online forum in 1997, less than 20% of the country had Internet access, so if you want to be a pedantic prick, as usual, go ahead, but you know what the fuck I meant by pre-Internet ...and a message board isn't it.

It's not "pre-internet" if a bunch of us were posting about this stuff on message boards at the time. Close though. I would probably put 1993 as the "pre-internet" marker, even though yes it did exist. 

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50 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

His uncle is Marty Akins and one of his grandfathers was a Texas HS coaching legend at Gregory Portland - he sent players to all kinds of colleges. The guy was begging for offers. His parents weren’t keeping from Texas if Mackovic would have listened to Randy Rodgers and offered him. 

You are mixing and matching a lot of shit in these posts, man. 

That era was not “pre-Internet” and the AAS had a massive forum base covering all Big 12 programs. The biggest one was the Texas forum, which was the precursor to Hornfans. The Brees stuff that persists to this day - much of it started there. 

Also, they of course wanted Minor, but Mackovic simply thought that Applewhite looked like a player and wanted the guy on the team. 

I either never knew -- or had forgotten -- the Marty Akins connection.

I did look it up -- his dad played basketball at aggy. Brees tore up his knee during his junior season at Westlake. I think that's when aggy pulled his schollie offer. At some point during his senior year, maybe RC reached back out but by then Brees had already committed to Joe Tiller at Purdue.

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28 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Well, technically neither was the 80's, but how many of us were on it.

I guarantee I was active on the internet before you.  I was doing War Games shit in the early 80's using an acoustic coupler.  And I was one of 5 people in UT's ACT lab starting in 1992 coding in Unix and HTML to build webpages.  Hell, I blew out the UT server posting a clip of Stonie Clark in 1994.  

Who the fuck cares if the AAS had an online forum in 1997, less than 20% of the country had Internet access, so if you want to be a pedantic prick, as usual, go ahead, but you know what the fuck I meant by pre-Internet ...and a message board isn't it.

You misread my tone, but, sure, I’ll play. 

1) No one gives a shit about your credentials in your imaginary dork war for computer usage supremacy. 

2) The purpose of talking about AAS GoBig12 was to highlight where the actual Brees rumors started, as relating to Texas. You were too blinded with insecurity-fueled rage from perceiving that your dork origins were being questioned to apparently grasp that. That is why “who the fuck cares if the AAS had a forum” dummy. 

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1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

Are we sure that's not revisionist history?  That's the same year we recruited Applewhite, and he wasn't exactly a giant.  Plus, didn't we also go after Brock Berlin that year?  He was also around 6ft, IIRC.

Was Brees highly rated?  I honestly don't remember hearing much about him back then.

Brees was probably a 3 star, Purdue and I think Kentucky recruited Brees. His senior year of high school,  many felt Westlake took a step back at the qb position because of who they had the season prior.  Guy went on to play at IU. Brees wins state, he put up some numbers,  but most felt like he still had a bad wheel, was a Lil short, stuff about his arm.  Bunch of bs. 

Texas didnt recruit for shit back then too, they wouldn't play with big money and hired idiot coaches. 

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3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Note to self. Do NOT make another sarcastic post about Brees or any other Westlake player because this board will run with it seriously, like the topic of whether Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame. 

good idea but can we at least stipulate, to baseline future discussion of Texas Internet Recruiting History, that the birth of the internet is Jan 1st, 1983? 

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9 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Note to self. Do NOT make another sarcastic post about Brees or any other Westlake player because this board will run with it seriously, like the topic of whether Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame. 

It is in the fine print that if you talk about Westlake players you have to be completely positive about them or preface your sentence with “I like Westlake and all but” or “Westlake is a great program but”.

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You are mixing and matching a lot of shit in these posts, man. 
That era was not “pre-Internet” and the AAS had a massive forum base covering all Big 12 programs. The biggest one was the Texas forum, which was the precursor to Hornfans. The Brees stuff that persists to this day - much of it started there. 
Also, they of course wanted Minor, but Mackovic simply thought that Applewhite looked like a player and wanted the guy on the team. 

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23 minutes ago, Dewey said:

His senior year of high school,  many felt Westlake took a step back at the qb position because of who they had the season prior.  Guy went on to play at IU.

Jay Rodgers, current NFL DL coach. Actually I think he was fired the other day. 

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17 minutes ago, Chango said:


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Yes. I always thought of it as GoBig12.com, but yes. It was affiliated with the AAS. Cox Communications had no idea what to do with it. It was a redheaded step child. It was driving all kinds of traffic but they didn't know how to monetize it. The people who built it had aspirations of it being the official Big 12 forums. TexAgs came from there. As already noted, Hornfans came from there. It's where Geoff Ketchum first started posting as an intern for KEYE. The first big Nebraska board came from there. I'm sure a couple of other schools, too, but I didn't pay much attention to them. Nobody else did, either. 

What changed message board wise was the world wide web. I accessed the internet prior to then as well, but it required a knowledge of esoteric commands, and search functions were rudimentary or nonexistent. Folks just put up information on college computers and you had to know how to find it. Usenet was the big message board type feature. GoBig12.com was built on the WWW protocol, then Netscape quickly came out allowing us to see the internet graphically. Sure, the internet existed, but there wasn't any kind of heavy usage among us Longhorn fanatics until GoBig12. 

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1 hour ago, Dewey said:

Brees was probably a 3 star, Purdue and I think Kentucky recruited Brees. His senior year of high school,  many felt Westlake took a step back at the qb position because of who they had the season prior.  Guy went on to play at IU. Brees wins state, he put up some numbers,  but most felt like he still had a bad wheel, was a Lil short, stuff about his arm.  Bunch of bs. 

Texas didnt recruit for shit back then too, they wouldn't play with big money and hired idiot coaches. 

Jay Rogers, current NFL coach and son of the University of Texas Recruiting Coordinator at the time, Randy Rogers was two years ahead of Brees.  Westlake was undefeated with Brees as a Jr., then he hurt his knee and they lost their only game of the season without him.  His senior year, they won state.

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3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

The professor is the guy that instigated, as a “mentor”, all of the summer of 2020 fallout with the players that bled over into none of them except for Ehlinger staying to sing The Eyes after the OU loss. 

Witnessing that in the stands led to Ewers decommitting and signing with Ohio State. Also, that game fundamentally shifted where the $$ was landing for or against Herman. 

So my view is that that professor can go get fucked and sell his divisive woke nonsense elsewhere if I could have a wand, but I’m glad he accidentally got rid of Tom Herman for us. 

Also, fuck Caden Stearns. 

Brees had two D1 offers - Purdue and Kentucky. There’s nothing revisionist in terms of the million reasons why almost everyone, including Texas, did not go after Brees. 

Brock Berlin wasn’t in the same class. He was recruited during the Mack Brown era when Evangel and Miami were both machines. 

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4 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

I mean, the kid blew out his knee as a senior.  In hindsight it was a bad move. At the time, only Westlake honks were questioning it. Aggy didn't recruit him, either, and they were still considered a football school back then.

This.  Drew and I were same class.  We weren't friends, but for him being at Westlake and me playing at a rural 3a school, our paths crossed alot.

He was being recruited(not heavily, but recruited) by us and A&M and various other schools.  I want to say Michigan or someone had started talking to him right before he blew out his knee, then they all disappeared.  Remember,  blowing out a knee was still a pretty bad recovery back then.

 

 

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4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

You misread my tone, but, sure, I’ll play. 

1) No one gives a shit about your credentials in your imaginary dork war for computer usage supremacy. 

2) The purpose of talking about AAS GoBig12 was to highlight where the actual Brees rumors started, as relating to Texas. You were too blinded with insecurity-fueled rage from perceiving that your dork origins were being questioned to apparently grasp that. That is why “who the fuck cares if the AAS had a forum” dummy. 

Or...and hear me out, maybe I "misread" your tone because you're one of the most consistent assholes on the site.  

You can't even take a fucking compliment without being a dick. 

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8 hours ago, alincoln said:

He was demanding $5 million to stay before the national championship game.  

 
I absolutely don't believe that and I don't believe there's any way you'd know it if that were the case.

7 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

Wait, seriously? You have a source on that? Wow if true, I was half kidding


No. He has no source.

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