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At least pretend that you watch the games.

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

For the shit we have given Muhammad, he ultimately decided to stay at Texas. He’s not super charitable, but ultimately the whole package at Texas was better than whatever he was getting offered by clowns in the ACC and Oregon. 

D Moore? Less so. For a guy who dropped like 15 passes this year, he and his mother sure think highly of his abilities.  I guess Sarkisian does too. Maybe mix in a few more catches in 2025, buddy. 

 

1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

Those slobbering over Moore need to calm down. Dude looked well below average catching the ball. Just off of memory I can tell you he lead the team in drops, maybe by double digits.

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From what I remember Moore was reliable early then went through a late season stretch of drops that got jumpstarted with one 2-3 drop game.

Let's not forget that he's a true Soph in his first year of playing time. Unless he slacks off, he should get better.

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43 minutes ago, immamac said:

KD was a weird example, since he's one of the few that have given an amount that is not negligible lol, but yes generally this.

 

39 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Ya was trying to put a UT spin on it lol lets change it to PJ Tucker instead of KD

A large group of basketball alums have pledged, informally, to support the program with NIL if the next hire is one of their guys. No one is actively trying to push RT out. They’re just making things clear if he happens to not be the right fit in the end. 

2 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

At least pretend that you watch the games.

 

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I don’t believe that Moore dropped only 5 passes any more than I believe that he actually dropped 15. 

1) You should know when you’re reading hyperbole on this board. 

2) You should not be so trusting of subjective stats. The definition of a drop, depending upon resource, is usually really fucking limited versus what any of us might consider as one. 

3) I watch as much CFB as any person on this site. Get fucked for intimating otherwise. 

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1 minute ago, Getafix said:

 

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Will this drive any ND defensive players we would like, to the portal?

 

Good on him for leaving during their portal window. Marcus Freeman is a hell of a DC as well though, doubt this moves the needle too much for them. 

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2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

From what I remember Moore was reliable early then went through a late season stretch of drops that got jumpstarted with one 2-3 drop game.

Let's not forget that he's a true Soph in his first year of playing time. Unless he slacks off, he should get better.

For all of you idiots with short attention spans discussing the trajectory of performance for Moore and making arguments about his merit, the reason for this discussion on this thread seems to have gotten lost.  I brought him up as NIL value for certain roles was being debated. The fucking guy and his camp think he is worth a lot more than anything he’s done so far, so his ass better significantly improve to justify his last second, gun to the head demands that have been nauseatingly met. 

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Even if that is accurate, spending 1/6 of your total budget on a single WR -- no matter how great he is -- seems a bit out of whack. Retaining Downs isn't going to be cheap. They already went into the portal for RB, TE and OT. Maybe they don't have to pay as much for roster retention because they lose so many multi-year starters and the backups are less expensive? I have no idea but whatever they do, I hope it blows up in their face.

Just took a quick glance, but it looks like the highest paid NFL WRs top out at about 11-12% of the total salary cap. So 16.7% of what is certainly a top 2 or 3 NIL budget in the entire sport is too much. Gotta be just a negotiating figure from Smith's camp.

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3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

One thing about the offense that has bothered me for awhile now is the fact that the supposed superstars are sometimes not getting the ball enough. Even though Wingo was a freshman, it seemed that both Moore and Wingo were underutilized. Or, are they not as good as we thought? With Wingo it might just be his experience level, but Moore should have done more. Will find out in 2025 imo. 

A lot of QBs tend to have receivers they are more prone to throwing to for a variety of reasons.  For various reasons Ewers was much more prone to go to Moore then say Bond. Whereas Arch looked at Bond and Wingo way more than Moore.  I think Quinn also showed a greater preponderance to hit the Tight end than Arch.  Player preferences, trust, whatever.

Just look at Billy Pittman.  He was our leading receiver in 2005 with 750 yards.  In 2006 he barely broke 400 yards and in 2007 he didn't even have 100 yards receiving.  Some of that I'm sure was talent acquisition, but a lot of it was also QB preference and comfort from Vince to Colt.

Some QBs spread the ball around to everyone pretty equally, but most have definite preferences.

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11 minutes ago, TexasRenegade said:

A lot of QBs tend to have receivers they are more prone to throwing to for a variety of reasons.  For various reasons Ewers was much more prone to go to Moore then say Bond. Whereas Arch looked at Bond and Wingo way more than Moore.  I think Quinn also showed a greater preponderance to hit the Tight end than Arch.  Player preferences, trust, whatever.

Just look at Billy Pittman.  He was our leading receiver in 2005 with 750 yards.  In 2006 he barely broke 400 yards and in 2007 he didn't even have 100 yards receiving.  Some of that I'm sure was talent acquisition, but a lot of it was also QB preference and comfort from Vince to Colt.

Some QBs spread the ball around to everyone pretty equally, but most have definite preferences.

There’s a thing called “read progression” you might want to learn about

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4 hours ago, tokamak said:

I think we as a group were speculating on this - possibly in this thread, can't remember - a few weeks ago. The model going forward for the big programs may be everyone getting on the same page at the same time for a big run, then dialing it back afterwards to regroup. It'll be really hard to sustain $20-$30mm rosters year in and year out unless you have an Uncle Phil who has fuck you money and just doesn't care. And even then, Uncle Phil isn't immortal.

 

It’s been mentioned before but we need a cadre of our billionaires to pony up large one time donations to create an endowment of sorts in which a percentage can be used for annual payroll. 
 

If I were a BMD I’d rather do that than have CDC pass the hat every year. 

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33 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

A large group of basketball alums have pledged, informally, to support the program with NIL if the next hire is one of their guys. No one is actively trying to push RT out. They’re just making things clear if he happens to not be the right fit in the end.

What does this mean other than Texas hiring Royal Ivey?

Or, does "one of their guys" just mean the collective group needs to sign off on the hire?

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2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

There’s a thing called “read progression” you might want to learn about

Sure there is read progression....but it is also obvious that QBs feel more comfortable throwing to certain guys for various reasons.  Read progression would actually mean more of spreading the ball around as a qb work though their reads, not statistically obvious patterns of favoritism from one QB to the other with basically the same receiving corp.

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25 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

A large group of basketball alums have pledged, informally, to support the program with NIL if the next hire is one of their guys. No one is actively trying to push RT out. They’re just making things clear if he happens to not be the right fit in the end. 

I don’t believe that Moore dropped only 5 passes any more than I believe that he actually dropped 15. 

1) You should know when you’re reading hyperbole on this board. 

2) You should not be so trusting of subjective stats. The definition of a drop, depending upon resource, is usually really fucking limited versus what any of us might consider as one. 

3) I watch as much CFB as any person on this site. Get fucked for intimating otherwise. 

Ah I see.  

Deny and deflect.  I know you like to fashion yourself as the rusty, unlubed, dildo of 9.95 consequences anytime anyone is unsure of something or is wrong. It's obvious you get off on that sort of thing. Fine. 

All I did was show that you were wrong.  But you weren't wrong, you were being hyperbolic. Got it.  My mistake

It's quite the little bubble you've created for yourself. You're very special. You're the Kim Kardashian on the 9.95 board.  And as far as I know you didn't have to throat a D-list rappers cock to achieve it.  Even more impressive.

Now you're saying you watch as much football as anyone else on this site.  Ok fine. Is that hyperbolic? I can't tell. Doesn't matter 

What about all the stories of your HS football exploits as a scrappy, white 5'6 WR playing big-time TXHSFB? I'm sure those are all true.

Fine.  I'll get fucked. Happy now

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Just now, Post Oak said:

Ah I see.  

Deny and deflect.  I know you like to fashion yourself as the rusty, unlubed, dildo of 9.95 consequences anytime anyone is unsure of something or is wrong. It's obvious you get off on that sort of thing. Fine. 

All I did was show that you were wrong.  But you weren't wrong, you were being hyperbolic. Got it.  My mistake

It's quite the little bubble you've created for yourself. You're very special. You're the Kim Kardashian on the 9.95 board.  And as far as I know you didn't have to throat a D-list rappers cock to achieve it.  Even more impressive.

Now you're saying you watch as much football as anyone else on this site.  Ok fine. Is that hyperbolic? I can't tell. Doesn't matter 

What about all the stories of your HS football exploits as a scrappy, white 5'6 WR playing big-time TXHSFB? I'm sure those are all true.

Fine.  I'll get fucked. Happy now


Jesus fucking Christ negged for making me read that stupid shit. 

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35 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Just took a quick glance, but it looks like the highest paid NFL WRs top out at about 11-12% of the total salary cap. So 16.7% of what is certainly a top 2 or 3 NIL budget in the entire sport is too much. Gotta be just a negotiating figure from Smith's camp.

You think the Smith camp is going through any form of analysis for their ask? I doubt it. 

13 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

What does this mean other than Texas hiring Royal Ivey?

Or, does "one of their guys" just mean the collective group needs to sign off on the hire?

 

6 minutes ago, cafe society said:

I'm guessing the latter.

Ivey. 

6 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Ah I see.  

Deny and deflect.  I know you like to fashion yourself as the rusty, unlubed, dildo of 9.95 consequences anytime anyone is unsure of something or is wrong. It's obvious you get off on that sort of thing. Fine. 

All I did was show that you were wrong.  But you weren't wrong, you were being hyperbolic. Got it.  My mistake

It's quite the little bubble you've created for yourself. You're very special. You're the Kim Kardashian on the 9.95 board.  And as far as I know you didn't have to throat a D-list rappers cock to achieve it.  Even more impressive.

Now you're saying you watch as much football as anyone else on this site.  Ok fine. Is that hyperbolic? I can't tell. Doesn't matter 

What about all the stories of your HS football exploits as a scrappy, white 5'6 WR playing big-time TXHSFB? I'm sure those are all true.

Fine.  I'll get fucked. Happy now

This is a bizarre digression. No one cares what you think of my posting style, including me. 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

So Ohio State had a reported $20 million budget for their entire roster last year and Smith is getting $5 million next year? That seems insane to me proportionately, unless there are other non-collective generated funds contributing to that $5 million number. 

Is he asking $5M per year? Or $5M spread over the remaining two years he will be in “college”? aLincoln?

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1 hour ago, statsman said:

Is he asking $5M per year? Or $5M spread over the remaining two years he will be in “college”? aLincoln?

Not sure if this guy is the source but I have seen 5 per year, 10 total. That's assuming he sticks to it and doesn't demand another raise next year 

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10 minutes ago, ITHorn said:

Clay is a troll at this point who is incapble of doing anything outside of farming for clicks. 0% chance he has any real info on the situation.

I realize that Travis is a conservative talking head and that drives a lot of people insane, but, idiot or not, the guy is very much involved with Tennessee athletics and would know very well about something like this. Smiths camp is doing outreach. 

 

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2 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

From what I remember Moore was reliable early then went through a late season stretch of drops that got jumpstarted with one 2-3 drop game.

Let's not forget that he's a true Soph in his first year of playing time. Unless he slacks off, he should get better.

This is what I recall. Had a good Spring game. We just need to play him first 8 games.

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In our current WR room I understand having to pay up to Moore’s demand. But I don’t think he was a true difference maker and his production could have probably been replaced if someone that is in charge of these things would have been alert sooner. But since we paid up he better have close to a Golden type year next year. 

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2 hours ago, Hornmatic said:

It’s been mentioned before but we need a cadre of our billionaires to pony up large one time donations to create an endowment of sorts in which a percentage can be used for annual payroll. 
 

If I were a BMD I’d rather do that than have CDC pass the hat every year. 

I like it.  We'll call it the players unlimited fund, or PUF.  

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I realize that Travis is a conservative talking head and that drives a lot of people insane, but, idiot or not, the guy is very much involved with Tennessee athletics and would know very well about something like this. Smiths camp is doing outreach. 

 

No no no, the politics of this board and the people's feelings are way way more important than substance and facts.

 

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3 minutes ago, statsman said:

I’m a right wing reactionary (no Cloak Room), and I still get very annoyed by Clay Travis. 
 
(but thanks for the info!)

He's just the counter balance to ESPN and honestly he's brilliant for figuring out there was a market. For the Achos and Willy Wonkas (Cam Newton) there is a Clay Travis. Give him credit he has made more money than us.

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10 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

He's just the counter balance to ESPN and honestly he's brilliant for figuring out there was a market. For the Achos and Willy Wonkas (Cam Newton) there is a Clay Travis. Give him credit he has made more money than us.

Please shut up.

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Not gonna lie Twitter images load so much faster than embeds. Should have done this a long time ago. 

Thanks to all those screencapping and taking the extra 5 seconds to copy/paste from the snipping tool it makes a big difference

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16 minutes ago, fellside said:

Texas fans defending the same Clay Travis who wrote attack articles against the Longhorns and generally just bad mouths us every chance he gets... Guess politics are really important to some people. 

Sad Cry Baby GIF by Rodney Dangerfield

Tell us where he touched you. Or was it just words? SOFT.

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12 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Login to site to escape politics and work only to read a banner that says “Elon is a Nazi” and a thread where people are taking nonstop politics. 

Thank you, everyone. Thank you. 

We'll buy you a McRib to make up for it.

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4 hours ago, Hornmatic said:

It’s been mentioned before but we need a cadre of our billionaires to pony up large one time donations to create an endowment of sorts in which a percentage can be used for annual payroll. 
 

If I were a BMD I’d rather do that than have CDC pass the hat every year. 

If you want to build an endowment that throws off $30m/yr in income, you'll have to raise something like $400m (ballpark - I'm going quick and dirty here). 

That is a big effort.

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31 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Login to site to escape politics and work only to read a banner that says “Elon is a Nazi” and a thread where people are taking nonstop politics. 

Thank you, everyone. Thank you. 

To be fair Elon Musk being a Nazi has nothing to do with politics. 

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