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Transfer Cycle 2024-2025 - Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent


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35 minutes ago, immamac said:

lol, coulda told you that was coming at the beginning of last season when he just didn't even want to join burnt ends for no reason and ghosted and the response from the rest of the guys was "yeah, not worth talking to him about"

“So we’d like to give you some free money.”

”Yeah, not interested.”

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38 minutes ago, Red Five said:

With all of Sark’s connections there, how did we end up taking so many Bama busts that are clearly not culture fits?

fwiw my cousin is a coach at a d2 school up in Connecticut. I was talking with him about the philosophy of taking transfers that are not culture fits and his answer wasn't surprising to me. First, everyone knows what they are getting themselves into when they approach someone who isn't a culture fit. There are no surprises at all. Second every staff has their own risk tolerance. You weigh the potential upside against the potential issues they bring. You don't want to overload any one position coach or side of the ball with culture problems.

Sark and his staff made a bet on the potential payoff. If they bust, they bust. If they leave without making everything worse then you've only lost the money it cost to bring them in.

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20 minutes ago, Fud said:

I'm sure he was set to receive considerably more than that as a likely potential starter, but it sounds like another school paid stupid money 

We were talking about money he left on the table for no reason this year. 

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So seems like biggest spring portal wants are DT, K, TE, WR imo. WR or TE would've been nice to have for spring practice but oh well. And maybe shore up the OL or secondary opportunistically.

I feel like spring portal could get wild depending on all this regulatory stuff with Title IX and the House Settlement. If schools have been making deals with the expectation of revenue sharing budget and that number gets lowered or delayed by the gov't, there could be chaos due to unfulfilled promises. Who knows what will happen though..

 

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It’s funny that Niblack’s atrocious blocking wasn’t even relevant because he couldn’t pick up the bare minimum of the playbook necessary to see the field.

But seriously, why are all of the Alabama transfers so damn weird? Hall couldn’t handle criticism and had an ongoing jihad against campus parking authorities (which I fully support). Billingsley was too soft and weak to support a baffling level of entitlement. Kendrick Blackshire didn’t have the discipline to go on a diet and transferred out to UTSA instead of staying on a winning program at a flagship academic institution. Bond apparently had a room temp IQ, a bad attitude, and was so utterly inept at blocking that I was convinced he was sandbagging second down run plays on purpose to increase the chances he got targeted on a third and long.

I can understand busting due to a lack of talent, but the entitlement and laziness just seemed so at odds with the myth of a Saban-lead program.

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47 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Right now, somewhere, Sydney is almost certainly masturbating furiously to the confirmation of Niblack’s departure. 

Why the hell would anyone want to be a part of our group? If I could find a better class of losers to hang out with, I’d have left years ago. We’re a confederacy of dunces if there ever was one. 

They clearly thought the same in pursuing the Purdue TE. That said, the word all fall and continuing this winter is that unless someone is of seriously high caliber, they’re going to mostly stand pat. If they like what they’re working with this spring, it would take someone special for them to make a move. Agbo still being on the roster probably helps. 

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1 hour ago, texifornia said:

So the TE room is Shannon / Randle / Washington / Townsend / Winston - not bad if Washington is what he's hyped to be.

Shannon looks promising as well. He looked really fluid for his size running routes before the Cotton Bowl. He seems like another Gunnar Helm, spend two years in S&C and then you are ready to make your mark. Helm had 19-236-2 through 4 years on campus.

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34 minutes ago, Noozak said:

fwiw my cousin is a coach at a d2 school up in Connecticut. I was talking with him about the philosophy of taking transfers that are not culture fits and his answer wasn't surprising to me. First, everyone knows what they are getting themselves into when they approach someone who isn't a culture fit. There are no surprises at all. Second every staff has their own risk tolerance. You weigh the potential upside against the potential issues they bring. You don't want to overload any one position coach or side of the ball with culture problems.

Sark and his staff made a bet on the potential payoff. If they bust, they bust. If they leave without making everything worse then you've only lost the money it cost to bring them in.

Yep. While not st the same level of coaching. When I coached youth travel football in Florida. I made 2 gambles on problem kids that weren’t culture fits. Today 1 kid is a starting DT at D1 level and will be drafted next year.  He figured it out.  The other is agiyle hall. That year we had 5 future D1 players on that team it was fun. But problem kids at college have typically been problem kids their whole life. You can only hope to change some and they figure it out.  Others well you have guys like cook and hall Hudson etc that never realize the generational money they could make 

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37 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

So seems like biggest spring portal wants are DT, K, TE, WR imo. WR or TE would've been nice to have for spring practice but oh well. And maybe shore up the OL or secondary opportunistically.

 

I know everyone wants a WR, but does Sark?  I feel like he's been burnt a few times with getting guys in who struggle to understand the offense.  Maybe better to develop guys within the system who have multiple offseasons to learn and master the offense? 

Even Golden took a while to come on because he struggled to understand the offense and had to put in the face to face work with Sark. 

For every AD Mitchell, you get first half of 2024 Golden, Bond, Hall, etc. 

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18 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Shannon looks promising as well. He looked really fluid for his size running routes before the Cotton Bowl. He seems like another Gunnar Helm, spend two years in S&C and then you are ready to make your mark. Helm had 19-236-2 through 4 years on campus.

I’m hopeful for Shannon as well.  He’s bigger than Helm and I’d like to see if he can be that second, blocking-oriented TE to complement Washington. Hopefully the staff can figure out if he’s up to that job during spring practice. 

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1 hour ago, skipmcgee said:

“So we’d like to give you some free money.”

”Yeah, not interested.”

This is kinda how it went down. 

38 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Not wanting to do Burnt Ends doesn't make him a bad teammate. Just couldn't find a role once other guys stepped up.

Hope he finds success whenever he doesn't play us.

Never said he was a bad teammate, but stupid is pretty easy to spot in the wild. 

Shannon and Washington are two guys who are going to be stepping up as well as the incoming class. I wouldn't sleep on what's already here.

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11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I know everyone wants a WR, but does Sark?  I feel like he's been burnt a few times with getting guys in who struggle to understand the offense.  Maybe better to develop guys within the system who have multiple offseasons to learn and master the offense? 

Even Golden took a while to come on because he struggled to understand the offense and had to put in the face to face work with Sark. 

For every AD Mitchell, you get first half of 2024 Golden, Bond, Hall, etc. 

And for every DeAndre Moore you might get a Cook. The Bond/Golden combo was definitely worth it. 

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11 minutes ago, immamac said:

Shannon and Washington are two guys who are going to be stepping up as well as the incoming class. I wouldn't sleep on what's already here.

Oh come on man, you know Texas fans.  Always enthralled with the idea of anything shiny and new. 

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51 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

Cackling to myself how horrible Niblack must be if he was on the bench during the non stop Juan Davis show down the stretch

They're completely different players/had different roles in this offense.

 

 

*yes, Niblack's role was mostly to sit on the bench - but you know what I meant

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

I'm very surprised he didn't get the call on the 2nd down that was the worst playcall in history though, I really was expecting that to be a Juan is unaccounted for easy curl into the ez play or even a Juan power run formation. 

You were very surprised that a guy with 9 catches and 0 TDs didn’t get his number called in the biggest moment of the year? 

I lose track of facetiousness, admittedly 

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2 hours ago, NoName said:

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Didn't Javonne Shepherd end up leaving with a 0.0?

 

 

If it could be lower it would have been

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43 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I know everyone wants a WR, but does Sark?  I feel like he's been burnt a few times with getting guys in who struggle to understand the offense.  Maybe better to develop guys within the system who have multiple offseasons to learn and master the offense? 

Even Golden took a while to come on because he struggled to understand the offense and had to put in the face to face work with Sark. 

For every AD Mitchell, you get first half of 2024 Golden, Bond, Hall, etc. 

Historically Sark has been aggressive at portal WR but who knows now. Maybe not. 

AD was good. Golden was average at first but great in the second half. Bond was the reverse - started strong then disappeared. Bolden and Neyor didn't really get much chance because of depth chart and injury but I'd say Bolden did his part. Agiye was a flyer that failed. Overall though that list was pretty crucial to the team the last couple years. 

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4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I choose to believe that our lack of portal-outs is a sign of how bad our roster is (no one even wants them!) and that we're doomed. DOOMED I SAY!!!!

Oh you know texags thinks their roster of 2022 five star divas and malcontents got raided because they were soooooo good and talented and CFB refuses to let aggy succeed. 

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18 minutes ago, immamac said:

 

I'm obviously bias because Juan is also one of my favorite people and I've known him for 4 years now, but the dude did what he was asked and did it as well as you could hope for. 

Who won the Gaskamp this year — Juan or Vernon? 

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