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17 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Wherever Quinn transfers after they pay him 6M for one year. 

Agreed.  If he (and I imagine he can) can get $6m from USC or Oregon (It’s rumored to be B1G) he’d be a fool to not take it and I wouldn’t blame him one bit.  
 

Before that report , I figured he was NFL bound for sure.  But the NIL era has benefited him immensely and with his lack of mobility and injury prone career, take the $6m and enjoy another year on the college tit 

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1 minute ago, jdhorn92 said:

Agreed.  If he (and I imagine he can) can get $6m from USC or Oregon (It’s rumored to be B1G) he’d be a fool to not take it and I wouldn’t blame him one bit.  
 

Before that report , I figured he was NFL bound for sure.  But the NIL era has benefited him immensely and with his lack of mobility and injury prone career, take the $6m and enjoy another year on the college tit 

He's a 2nd or 3rd round pick and might be pushed higher due to scarcity. For reasons you bizarrely cite in regard to staying in college, he should go pro in this cycle. Allegedly, his family still feels the same way. 

Notre Dame is believed to be the one floating the big offer. 

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26 minutes ago, troph said:

I don't have the personal animosity toward Mack many here do, but I find his he's friends with the mannings and friends with slocum and friends with this person and that person to be a bit much. I also don't care if he is involved with Texas EXCEPT he wants to "fix" CFB and the NIL while he also admitted the current situation is good for Texas. Fuck man! we played in a system that was not good for us for decades, bag men all that shit, and now it's just getting good and you want to be the Texas ambassador that "fixes" NIL. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

There is a pretty deep New Orleans connection (as transactional as it may be) with MB and the Mannings.  That’s one reason we were in it for Eli (Cutcliff connection was too strong in the end).  Having done business in NO , the Tulane years is the genesis of the relationship. FWIW 

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11 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

He's a 2nd or 3rd round pick and might be pushed higher due to scarcity. For reasons you bizarrely cite in regard to staying in college, he should go pro in this cycle. Allegedly, his family still feels the same way. 

Notre Dame is believed to be the one floating the big offer. 

They really have no idea what they want in a qb.  Leonard and Ewers couldn't be more different in terms of their skillets.

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6 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Agreed.  If he (and I imagine he can) can get $6m from USC or Oregon (It’s rumored to be B1G) he’d be a fool to not take it and I wouldn’t blame him one bit.  
 

Before that report , I figured he was NFL bound for sure.  But the NIL era has benefited him immensely and with his lack of mobility and injury prone career, take the $6m and enjoy another year on the college tit 

Of course he'd take it. The complete morons would be any team offering a QB that limited that much stupid money. It would have to be someone who did zero investigating into why a guy who was the Heisman front runner after week 2 was nowhere near being invited to NY. 

Ewers should get as much college money as he can because he's likely to not be a first or second round pick, and his game's got NFL bust written all over it. 

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7 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

There is a pretty deep New Orleans connection (as transactional as it may be) with MB and the Mannings.  That’s one reason we were in it for Eli (Cutcliff connection was too strong in the end).  Having done business in NO , the Tulane years is the genesis of the relationship. FWIW 

forgot about his time there. that makes some sense actually.

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23 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Regarding both the landing of Shaw and the development skills of Baker, I've attached some screenshots from PFF for consideration. Note the yearly growth for each player. I don't view PFF as gospel and, frankly, some of their work on various positions is trash (mostly QB and CB), IMO. That said, it's one services comprehensive POV and interesting to review.

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Shaw also has a tangible backstory for why he underperformed years 1 and 2 - he supposedly got close to 400 lbs and just this past year reigned it back in. There may be more physical progress Becton can help him tap into in addition to getting more reps and technique coaching.

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Just now, kevwun said:

They're not done yet and have the whole spring portal.  They will have a much better idea of the young guys then also.

Hopefully people worth a shit enter during the spring portal. I feel that cycle is generally just a bunch of jags who didn't have good springs at their school. Sure there could be some good pickups but seem scarce.

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2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Norton and Lole both came from the spring.

What coach are we hiring from another program to bring a Bill Norton? We flipped Lole from Oklahoma after they too Damonic Williams, if I recall correctly. 

 

I just think the strategy of praying for spring portal when there was 3-4 guys this cycle who seem like good players is dumb.

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You are worrying about things that Sark has shown to be really good at.  The task at tackle this year is much easier than losing the anchors of the entire defense like they had to do last season.  If we we can replace Sweat and Murphy and still be fine, it's silly to worry about this.

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2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

You are worrying about things that Sark has shown to be really good at.  The task at tackle this year is much easier than losing the anchors of the entire defense like they had to do last season.  If we we can replace Sweat and Murphy and still be fine, it's silly to worry about this.

They're certainly not done. Bobby and Gerry know the staff's agenda. That's why they keep saying two more DTs. Even if quality DTs don't enter on their own accord, I trust our staff's roster management to go and get another competent piece, or two. @closetojumping keeps referring to dry powder being available. I'm sure they'll use it to get the additions Texas needs at DT.

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3 minutes ago, kevwun said:

You are worrying about things that Sark has shown to be really good at.  The task at tackle this year is much easier than losing the anchors of the entire defense like they had to do last season.  If we we can replace Sweat and Murphy and still be fine, it's silly to worry about this.

We had guys on roster to replace Sweat and Murphy with, this year we don't have those guys on the roster. That's why it was imperative.

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9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

I just think the strategy of praying for spring portal when there was 3-4 guys this cycle who seem like good players is dumb.


You are right. That is a dumb strategy. I guess that’s why that is not what we are doing. 

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55 minutes ago, troph said:

I also don't care if he is involved with Texas EXCEPT he wants to "fix" CFB and the NIL while he also admitted the current situation is good for Texas. Fuck man! we played in a system that was not good for us for decades, bag men all that shit, and now it's just getting good and you want to be the Texas ambassador that "fixes" NIL. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

The asshole said that "winning too much isn't good for the kids." That makes it pretty damned clear that he needs to be kept at arms length from this program and from leadership in CFB. He doesn't want to see an era in which Texas is able to dominate. Not to mention the fact that he would be overshadowed in such a scenario. Mack is far too small a man for that.

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24 minutes ago, kevwun said:

They really have no idea what they want in a qb.  Leonard and Ewers couldn't be more different in terms of their skillets.

It does make you wonder if ND boosters were driving those rumors without much input from the coaching staff. They have NIL to spend and nothing behind Leonard so their money guys are thinking they need to reload ASAP at QB to contend again next year. Who better than a senior with playoff experience?

20 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

That leaves us with 6-7 rotational pieces at DT - Brevard, Shaw, January, Terry, Charles, Sharma, and Hills. Not terrible. 

CTJ covered it, but we probably shouldn't expect much from Charles and Sharma. Even Terry looked small next to Alfred Collins in playoff practice and probably needs to add weight/strength.

12 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Shaw also has a tangible backstory for why he underperformed years 1 and 2 - he supposedly got close to 400 lbs and just this past year reigned it back in. There may be more physical progress Becton can help him tap into in addition to getting more reps and technique coaching.

Supposedly UNC had someone from the nutrition staff pretty much literally follow him around. Hopefully we've got a comprehensive plan in place and Shaw understands that this is his contract year.

3 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

They're certainly not done. Bobby and Gerry know the staff's agenda. That's why they keep saying two more DTs. Even if quality DTs don't enter on their own accord, I trust our staff's roster management to go and get another competent piece, or two.

Exactly. No need to be passive and hope that someone we likes enters.

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8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

We had guys on roster to replace Sweat and Murphy with, this year we don't have those guys on the roster. That's why it was imperative.

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1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

The asshole said that "winning too much isn't good for the kids." That makes it pretty damned clear that he needs to be kept at arms length from this program and from leadership in CFB. He doesn't want to see an era in which Texas is able to dominate. Not to mention the fact that he would be overshadowed in such a scenario. Mack is far too small a man for that.

I don't want to interrupt your Mack Brown hate in any big way, but you're confusing that quote with Mack Brown when Dodds was the idiot who said it in 2013.

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4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Look, mommy, the rhino is getting too close to the car!

I don't want to interrupt your Mack Brown hate in any big way, but you're confusing that quote with Mack Brown when Dodds was the idiot who said it in 2013.

Eh, it was the pervasive thought in the building at the time, coming from the top.

And I don't hate Mack Brown. I just see him for who he is, which is not a Texas loyalist. Mack loves Mack and would die for Mack.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

He's a 2nd or 3rd round pick and might be pushed higher due to scarcity. For reasons you bizarrely cite in regard to staying in college, he should go pro in this cycle. Allegedly, his family still feels the same way. 

Notre Dame is believed to be the one floating the big offer. 

Once Quinn goes through workouts and throws for teams, he will start shooting back up draft boards. The guy is going in the first round, I just expect it to be in the low first round. That extra year for a starting QB on a rookie salary is a huge deal. 

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18 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don't want to interrupt your Mack Brown hate in any big way, but you're confusing that quote with Mack Brown when Dodds was the idiot who said it in 2013.

This.  Also, I think Dodds was overly praised for running no better than a competent AD's office, but I know from talking to players that they felt like he really cared about them personally, i.e., their development as humans would be important to him and losing is certainly a teacher. 

15 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

And I don't hate Mack Brown. I just see him for who he is, which is not a Texas loyalist. Mack loves Mack and would die for Mack.

Eh, I think with the benefit of hindsight you may judge him too harshly.  Mack is like an old pitcher who lost his fastball but couldn't adapt and kept pumping diminished heat.  I think he was confused at the time and retreated to a safe space that was a little self-centered.  Its kind of a rare trait for anyone to be capable of unprodded self-reflection, least of all an athlete/coach making $5m annually. 

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1 hour ago, Hermanator said:

Of course he'd take it. The complete morons would be any team offering a QB that limited that much stupid money. It would have to be someone who did zero investigating into why a guy who was the Heisman front runner after week 2 was nowhere near being invited to NY. 

Ewers should get as much college money as he can because he's likely to not be a first or second round pick, and his game's got NFL bust written all over it. 

Don’t want to argue but that’s pretty much the same for all QBs in any draft class - very few can’t miss  candidates ever 

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1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

Agreed.  If he (and I imagine he can) can get $6m from USC or Oregon (It’s rumored to be B1G) he’d be a fool to not take it and I wouldn’t blame him one bit.  
 

Before that report , I figured he was NFL bound for sure.  But the NIL era has benefited him immensely and with his lack of mobility and injury prone career, take the $6m and enjoy another year on the college tit 

I was being sarcastic. I believe Bobby B. He’s gone to the nfl. 

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1 hour ago, kevwun said:

If someone this time last year had brought up Collins and Broughton as candidates to do that, you would have laughed at them.

I had faith in those guys. I’m. It some optimist by nature, I’m more contrarian, so let me do so again… I’d obviously like 2 more starting caliber DT, but with what we have on campus we will be better on defense next year than we are this year, even losing 4 quality DT’s 3 of them possibly to the nfl, and a Thorpe award winner. Unless Taaffe goes pro. Then we are doomed. But seriously, we will add and it will be great, and even if we don’t we will still have a defense plenty good enough to buttfuck everyone on our schedule next year. 

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12 hours ago, irishtexan said:

Subjective opinions from guys named Kegan on twitter aren’t data points. 
 

that being said, I’ve been very happy with Baker in year one after a bit of a shaky start. 

Well when I first saw it I seriously thought it was Keanu Reeves....so there's that

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Hopefully people worth a shit enter during the spring portal. I feel that cycle is generally just a bunch of jags who didn't have good springs at their school. Sure there could be some good pickups but seem scarce.

Oregon got Harmon in the spring after he teased leaving Mich St in January. My hope is that Woods will do the same after some time eases the sting if that playoff L

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1 minute ago, cmontexas said:

Oregon got Harmon in the spring after he teased leaving Mich St in January. My hope is that Woods will do the same after some time eases the sting if that playoff L

Yeah, a lot of these guys are giving new coordinators/position coaches the benefit of the doubt, which may not last after spring ball.  There will be options, they just can't be from the SEC. 

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College football transfer portal 'Pain Meter': Who lost most transfers in 2025 and how bad did they hurt?

 

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Arkansas had a solid 7-6 campaign to keep Sam Pittman off the hot seat for the time being. 

Yet that wasn't enough to keep some of the top talent in Fayetteville. The Hogs lose TE Luke Hasz (Ole Miss, 92 grade), who was dinged up this season but might be the top tight end on the transfer market. He has NFL upside. OG Patrick Kutas (93 grade) also went to Ole Miss and is tied as the highest-rated OL in the portal. Tevis Metcalf and TJ Metcalf went to Michigan; they have NFL upside. Isaiah Sategna is a solid slot receiver.

More than a half of the outgoing transfers have landed at Power Four programs already (16 of 30 at the time of publication), with three going to CFP teams.

Arkansas is bringing in a solid transfer class that is ranked 12th at this time. Yet the departures represent some high-end talents mixed with high-floor players. If you took the 10 highest-ranked transfers out and put them in one class, you'd be looking at a top 5-10 portal haul.

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It helps to just look at the sheer totality of Oklahoma's losses if laid out like this:

LB Lewis Carter (78.7 PFF on 100+ snaps), Top 150 recruit in 2023
LB Dasan McCullough to Nebraska (90 Grade)
OL Joshua Bates to SMU (89 Grade)
QB Jackson Arnold to Auburn (90 Grade)
TE Bauer Sharp to LSU (88 Grade)
WR Nic Anderson to LSU (93 Grade)
Coming off a disappointing 6-6 campaign -- including 2-6 in the SEC -- Oklahoma has experienced some unwanted attrition across the board. 

The silver lining is that Oklahoma hasn't lost a ton of star power, but it has lost some quality starters who maybe hadn't quite hit their potential for a variety of reasons.

An offense that struggled mightily last year did lose WR Nic Anderson (93 grade) and TE Bauer Sharp (88 grade) to LSU. QB Jackson Arnold (90 grades) stays in the SEC as well and is headed to Auburn where he's expected to start. Arnold is one of the more intriguing quarterback transfers in the country given his athletic profile and the skill talent he'll have around him in Auburn.

There are also some key departures on defense, with LB Dasan McCullough to Nebraska (90 grade) and promising LB Lewis Carter (78.7 PFF on 100+ snaps) both outgoing.

Two thirds of your 27 transfers landed at other P4 programs. That speaks to the depth Oklahoma is losing. They've added one of the best players in the portal in QB John Mateer, but with only 12 additions so far, it feels like what's gone in hasn't matched what's gone out. Mateer and EDGE Marvin Jones Jr., from Florida State, are the only four-star transfer in the fold. 

Pain Meter: 6

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Mississippi State went 0-8 in conference play in Year 1 under Jeff Lebby. With that comes a concentrated overhaul. 

There's legitimate upside entering the program, with a top-10 portal class being highlighted by FSU QB transfer Luke Kromenhoek (94 grade) and South Alabama RB Fluff Bothwell (91 grade).

Yet the Bulldogs are losing some top talent at receiver with Kevin Coleman (92 grade, Missouri), Mario Craver (92 grade, Texas A&M), and Creed Whittemore (88 grade, Utah) all heading elsewhere.  Standout cornerback Brice Pollock (90 grade, Texas Tech) departs as well. 

The top-end talent is tough to lose, but this program is building for the future and there's a value in churning some of the non-contributors off a bad team.

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This has been a brutal offseason for Kentucky in terms of losing potential starpower. It's the bill coming due after a 1-7 campaign in SEC play.

The Wildcats failed to bring in a functional quarterback transfer this past offseason, and ranked 120th in team passer rating (118.22) with more INTs than TDs. With that, the Wildcats have lost starting WR Dane Key (93 grade) to Nebraska and WR Barion Brown (92 grade) to LSU, and promising underclassman WR Hardley Gilmore IV (88 grade) to Nebraska as well.

Then you have some key trench players in OL Keeshawn Silver (91 grade - USC) and DE Tyreese Fearbry (90 grade - Wisconsin) outgoing as well.

Of the 23 transfers out, 11 have gone to the P4 level. Quantity and quality sting here. Undercutting that here is that Kentucky has compiled a decent haul of incoming transfers (currently ranked 10th) that includes one of the top defensive line portal prospects in David Gusta, from Washington State. Still, it hasn't been an ideal offseason in Lexington.

Pain Meter: 8

 

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Unless Campbell is getting really bad advice, he's coming back, as is Hutson. We can debate their productivity, but not their experience. Flood has espoused a point of view that it is best to build from within on the OL. Bringing in portal guys who are questionably comparable to existing talent is a recipe for destabilizing the OL room. I'm not saying they'd never do it, I'm just saying with certainty that that has been what Flood has been preaching from the jump.

I hear ya, was coming from the perspective of if we lost him and both tackles then we might want some insta-starts 

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