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1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

To be fair, I wouldn't pay Ewers that either.

But honestly, I don't understand the economics of the NIL world.  Not sure how it's "worth it" for Miami.  Their program doesn't make any money.  They only had like $75M in revenue in 2023 (cooking the books to show $0 profit), while Texas had $183M in Revenue and $122M in profits in 2023.  Our profit almost doubled their revenue.

Must be just a couple of ego driven boosters.

 

If paying a QB $4M (which was done via boosters/a collective anyways) gets them into the playoffs, increases ticket revenues, other branding opportunities, etc., it certainly pays off. I'm willing to bet Miami sees higher 2024 football revenues than 2023 that can be materially attributed to Ward transferring there this season and not just other reasons.

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1 hour ago, Tex-19 said:

Surprising portal approach from the staff so far this year. I did not expect DE, iOL to have as many visitors as WR and more than S as we near the end of this portal window. Quite interesting. I would've though G was pretty set with Hutson, Campbell, and Neto. Then again, clearly run game needs improvement.

Sounds like Oregon and Tenn are the main competition for Pregnon.

the multi-year collective hard-on for neto is one of the more unexplainable things on surly. 

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41 minutes ago, pacman said:

 against this schedule? He'll take the L against ND because he is "still learning the system" and then probably roll right through the rest.

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I doubt they beat a 2nd-year DJ Lagway.  Florida will be a decent team in 2025. 

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39 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

To be fair, I wouldn't pay Ewers that either.

But honestly, I don't understand the economics of the NIL world.  Not sure how it's "worth it" for Miami.  Their program doesn't make any money.  They only had like $75M in revenue in 2023 (cooking the books to show $0 profit), while Texas had $183M in Revenue and $122M in profits in 2023.  Our profit almost doubled their revenue.

Must be just a couple of ego driven boosters.

 

Economics? If I had the financial wherewithal to buy Sarkisian the roster he wanted to win the national championship, it would be done. And not for economic reasons. 

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40 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

If paying a QB $4M (which was done via boosters/a collective anyways) gets them into the playoffs, increases ticket revenues, other branding opportunities, etc., it certainly pays off. I'm willing to bet Miami sees higher 2024 football revenues than 2023 that can be materially attributed to Ward transferring there this season and not just other reasons.

Yep, there is also a lot of emotional connection in college football. You aren't always going to see rational decisions in the CFB NIL market.

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1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

100%. I'd love to improve the IOL.

I'm not sure I agree.

DE: We have great talent at DE, but most of the returning talent will be young/inexperienced. Another SDE would provide for great depth with Sorrell moving on and uncertainty with Moore. You can never have enough experienced, physically matured depth along the lines.

- I expect more numbers at both DT and DE, especially if Moore decides to leave.

IOL: IOL is a needed improvement. This speaks for itself.

WR: Our WR room is young but has a lot of potential. Get Golden or Bond back and they could possibly roll with the room we have. It doesn't sound like the staff is desperate here for just a body or to overpay for limited production.

S: This is up in the air with Taaffe's decision still looming. Same logic applies as WR. They aren't going to overpay. They certainly were after the Purdue safety, though.

There is still the spring window. I'm entirely confident this staff will fill roster needs when they are fully known come season's end and NFL draft intentions have been decided and communicated to all parties. Shit, they can't even focus on full-time recruiting yet. They're still game planning and practicing.

Otherwise, Texas is 4/4 with filling needs/upgrading the roster, thus far.

If Moore comes back, DE seems pretty loaded with him, Simmons, Burke and a rotational body from the youngster ranks (Lance Jackson or Vasek most likely). If Moore leaves, then yeah probably need someone.

WR and S definitely depend on NFL decisions, but if those guys all declare (which seems likely for the WRs at least), there is very little returning production in those rooms. You'd only have 2 WRs (Wingo and Moore) and 2 S (Jelani and a recovering Williams) with any meaningful playing time. Going into a season with that little experienced depth would be very dicey. Part of my surprise is also just bc Sark has been so aggressive with WR portal until now. I mean he took 3 last year despite plenty of young talent in Wingo, Moore, and Johntay. 

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46 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

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The Fox affiliate in Miami reports that UM's contract with Carson Beck is a one year, $4 M deal. As perspective, former second round pick Will Levis made $950,000 base as Tennessee Titans starting QB this season.

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3 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

If Moore comes back, DE seems pretty loaded with him, Simmons, Burke and a rotational body from the youngster ranks (Lance Jackson or Vasek most likely). If Moore leaves, then yeah probably need someone.

WR and S definitely depend on NFL decisions, but if those guys all declare (which seems likely for the WRs at least), there is very little returning production in those rooms. You'd only have 2 WRs (Wingo and Moore) and 2 S (Jelani and a recovering Williams) with any meaningful playing time. Going into a season with that little experienced depth would be very dicey. Part of my surprise is also just bc Sark has been so aggressive with WR portal until now. I mean he took 3 last year despite plenty of young talent in Wingo, Moore, and Johntay. 

The roster, particularly at wr, is getting to the point where a portal starter could cause you to lose a young player you don't want to.  Sark has to tread more carefully than years past.

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Just now, kevwun said:

The roster, particularly at wr, is getting to the point where a portal starter could cause you to lose a young player you don't want to.  Sark has to tread more carefully than years past.

 

is the young player making a bigger impact than the portal player ? 

is their a transfer / nil market for an unproven young player ?

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

IMO this is a position that you can NEVER be too deep at. Being able to send wave after wave of really good play here is so taxing on offenses.

Would be nice for Texas to be for EDGE what OSU has been for WR

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1 hour ago, pacman said:

 against this schedule? He'll take the L against ND because he is "still learning the system" and then probably roll right through the rest.

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I thought the bigger question is if he'll even be recovered to play against most (any?) of that schedule? 

But, hey, if UM wants to shell out $4M on that gamble, I'm all for it.

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24 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Depends on what he actually had done to his elbow.  If it was Tommy John, Miami is wishcasting.  I'm guessing it probably wasn't that.

Based on Thamel’s recent X post regarding Beck’s timeline, he should be ready to go for summer. He can spend the meantime rehabbing and learning the playbook. 

Tommy John is a much longer rehab period for pitchers versus QBs. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

I thought the bigger question is if he'll even be recovered to play against most (any?) of that schedule? 

But, hey, if UM wants to shell out $4M on that gamble, I'm all for it.

who the hell would pay $4m interception machine, i'll take the job 

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7 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

who the hell would pay $4m interception machine, i'll take the job 

He only threw 12. Sure, they were clustered during more critical games/against better defenses, but it’s not like he was terrible. 

We can’t act like nearly 3,500 passing yards and a 28:12 TD to INT ratio is bad.

These are nearly identical passing statistics to Colt’s senior year, FYI. 

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Just now, MuellerHorn said:

He only threw 12. Sure, they were clustered during more critical games/against better defenses, but it’s not like he was terrible. 

We can’t act like nearly 3,500 passing yards and a 28:10 TD to INT ratio is bad. 

I think Miami is a fantastic situation , ACC defenses are much worse. Look at what McCord did this year at freaking Syracuse . 

I thought with all the transfer rumors Ewers would be targeted there, i guess they got impatient 

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23 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

He only threw 12. Sure, they were clustered during more critical games/against better defenses, but it’s not like he was terrible. 

We can’t act like nearly 3,500 passing yards and a 28:12 TD to INT ratio is bad.

These are nearly identical passing statistics to Colt’s senior year, FYI. 

His numbers aren't bad, but Cam Ward had to play out of his mind to keep that team afloat. They need superman and instead they are getting a dude who wasn't exactly mr. clutch to begin with, coming back from a significant injury and likely playing behind a bad o-line. 

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2 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

If paying a QB $4M (which was done via boosters/a collective anyways) gets them into the playoffs, increases ticket revenues, other branding opportunities, etc., it certainly pays off. I'm willing to bet Miami sees higher 2024 football revenues than 2023 that can be materially attributed to Ward transferring there this season and not just other reasons.

You're making my point.  This isn't about an ROI for the university.

Even during the height of their popularity (80 thru 95) they only averaged about 60% capacity at home games.  

Their "fans" suck and it's a glorified commuter school like UH. 

This is about the ego of a few (1 in particular) boosters.  

Of course, now that Bezos' soon-to-be stepson, and Trump's granddaughter are about to go there I have a feeling the football roster is about to get significantly better.

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5 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

Is it? I thought it was a private, rich-kid-with-decent-but-not-great test scores, match school, like Villanova, TCU, SMU, Richmond, etc.?

It is; it’s nothing at all like UH…

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16 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

bond and golden were a huge part of the success this season. need to hit gold like that again

 

This guy gets it. Where would we be without Bond this season? Who else could we find to drop critical third down passes in the semifinals or commit a stupid penalty in the SEC championship game? 

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31 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

bond and golden were a huge part of the success this season. need to hit gold like that again

Worthy and Mitchell were massive additions from Michigan and Georgia. Bond and Golden were critical as well but it wasn't quite enough for the WR corps to reach the same highs as 2023.

We were missing both for long stretches tonight and still managed to move the ball until we hit the redzone and WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CALL A TOSS AT THE ONE YARD LINE IF IT DIDN'T WORK WITH VY AND HENRY FUCKING MELTON IT SURE AS SHIT WASN'T GOING TO WORK THERE a go-to guy in the redzone would be a great complement to Wingo and DeAndre Moore who can make hay in the open field

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