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  On 5/3/2024 at 8:00 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

So why didn’t they stand up for it when Hamas was doing it to their own people? 

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I mean....Hamas was/is an utterly shitty government, corrupt as hell, stealing resources meant for the people, all that shit.....but I'm pretty sure they weren't blowing up thousands of Gazans every month.  Unless I missed something.

And yes, people should have been calling Hamas on the carpet for a long fucking time, based on their corrupt governance alone.

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  On 5/3/2024 at 8:02 PM, Brisketexan said:

I mean....Hamas was/is an utterly shitty government, corrupt as hell, stealing resources meant for the people, all that shit.....but I'm pretty sure they weren't blowing up thousands of Gazans every month.  Unless I missed something.

And yes, people should have been calling Hamas on the carpet for a long fucking time, based on their corrupt governance alone.

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War is tough. People die. Such is the nature of it. 

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  On 4/29/2024 at 3:07 PM, jimmyjazz said:

I'd be curious to see when people think conservatism veered away from small government, state's rights, individual freedoms, etc.

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I would say that in my political lifetime, other than some token lip service, conservatism has never been about those things. 

 

 

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  On 5/3/2024 at 8:02 PM, Brisketexan said:

And yes, people should have been calling Hamas on the carpet for a long fucking time, based on their corrupt governance alone.

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Palestinians who did that tended to disappear. 

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  On 5/4/2024 at 12:21 AM, tx 3 putt said:

 

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This is what fascists do. They lie. And they do so preposterously. Orwell was a god damned prophet.

The implication that “silencing Jewish students” was a goal of the protests is a lie. There were of course counterprotests which, although smaller, were not “silenced” or otherwise harassed by those protesting against Israel. 

And stating that the university upheld its values and mission statements is another absurd lie. This is the same university that, just last year, couldn’t shut the fuck up about how committed it was to free speech on campus. Self-congratulatory puffery about that supposed commitment is all over the UT website.

But maybe I’m being too narrow minded. Maybe UT truly is committed to its core values, which only last week became obedience, capricious order, and selective rights.

And maybe Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

 

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  On 5/4/2024 at 12:21 AM, tx 3 putt said:

 

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I think people are figuring out what some have known for a while that there are some very rich and powerful people who want to fundamentally change UT Austin.  The issue of how they handled the protests is just in keeping with the tenor and tone they desire to achieve. 
I’ve actually heard someone on that list say that conservatism is the only thing they admire about A&M. 

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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 3:28 AM, bschoolprof said:
What a ridiculous tweet from a reporter employed by a major newspaper.  Do better.  

She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.
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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 3:48 AM, babysdaddy said:


She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.

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Or, you know, correct.

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  On 5/4/2024 at 3:48 AM, babysdaddy said:


She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.

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Considering Season 3 GIF by Portlandia

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  On 5/4/2024 at 3:48 AM, babysdaddy said:


She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.

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Fuck Harlan Crow

  On 5/4/2024 at 3:28 AM, bschoolprof said:

What a ridiculous tweet from a reporter employed by a major newspaper.  Do better.  

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Fuck Harlan Crow

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Posted (edited)
  On 5/4/2024 at 4:03 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Harlan Crow is the furthest thing from a Nazi. 

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I submit that if Harlan Crow has supported or voted for Trump, he is a f*cking fascist …. or 100% fascist enabler, like the German industrialists who stood by and profited as the Nazis seized power in 1930s Germany. 

F*ck Trammel Crow and all those rich GQP assholes in Highland Park. They know what they are supporting: fascism and theocracy.

History is clear on all this BS.

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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 4:17 PM, BevoAbyss said:

I submit that if Harlan Crow has supported or voted for Trump, he is a f*cking fascist …. or 100% fascist enabler, like the German industrialists who stood by and profited as the Nazis seized power in 1930s Germany. 

F*ck Trammel Crow and all those rich GQP assholes in Highland Park. They know what they are supporting: fascism and theocracy.

History is clear on all this BS.

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I don’t know if he has supported Trump at all. Certainly not like W or No Labels. Also, from Wiki:

Crow's Dallas residence has an extensive collection of historical artifacts, including communist and Nazi memorabilia. His residence houses two paintings by Adolf Hitler and a signed copy of Mein Kampf.[37][38][39][40][41] Crow's backyard garden features what he named the 'Garden of Evil',[42] which is home to at least 20 statues of authoritarian leaders and Communist icons including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro,  Mao Zedong, Karl Marx, Hosni Mubarak, Josip Broz Tito, Nicolae Ceausescu, Walter Ulbricht, Gavrilo Princip, Bela Kun, and Che Guevara.[43][44][45] Crow acquired these former public monuments after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc.[3] According to Crow, he collects such memorabilia because he "hates communism and fascism".[46] Crow also owns original paintings by Claude Monet, Rembrandt Peale, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Winston Churchill, and Dwight D. Eisenhower.[47]

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Posted (edited)
  On 5/4/2024 at 4:41 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Crow also owns original paintings by Claude Monet, Rembrandt Peale, Pierre-Auguste Renoir,

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Owning great is not necessarily a signal of enlightenment. So did a lot of Nazis. They stole art and pillaged museums all across Europe. And, yes, some Nazis even liked some of the more modernist stuff. 

Check out the great documentary The Rape of Europa or the fantastic film, The Train (directed by John Frankenheimer). Both are powerful treatments about art stolen by the Nazis. 

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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 4:44 PM, wildcat09 said:

Yes we’re all aware of his bullshit excuses. We’ve discussed this all before.

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  On 5/4/2024 at 4:50 PM, BevoAbyss said:

That's not necessarily a signal of enlightenment. So did a lot of Nazis. They stole art and pillaged museums all across Europe. And, yes, some Nazis even liked some of the more modernist stuff. 

Check out the great documentary The Rape of Europa or the fantastic film, The Train (directed by John Frankenheimer). Both are powerful treatments about art stolen by the Nazis. 

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I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 

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  On 5/4/2024 at 4:54 PM, Rex Kramer said:

 

I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 

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The man collects Nazi napkins. 

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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 4:54 PM, Rex Kramer said:
I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 
Buying influence is not the same thing as giving money.
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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 5:02 PM, wildcat09 said:

The man collects Nazi napkins. 

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Rich people collect rare shit. Who knows their real motivations. I suspect it’s better in his hands in a private collection than in true neo nazi extremists. 

  On 5/4/2024 at 5:29 PM, tchookem said:
  On 5/4/2024 at 4:54 PM, Rex Kramer said:
I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 
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Buying influence is not the same thing as giving money.

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In his case it’s clear he does both. 

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This guy bought citizenship in the Caribbean. And is allowed to donate millions to a political party and give untold benefits to a sitting Supreme Court justice

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Posted (edited)
  On 5/4/2024 at 4:41 PM, Rex Kramer said:

According to Crow, he collects such memorabilia because he "hates communism and fascism".[46] Crow also owns original paintings by Claude Monet, Rembrandt Peale, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Winston Churchill, and Dwight D. Eisenhower.[47]

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  On 5/4/2024 at 4:44 PM, wildcat09 said:

Yes we’re all aware of his bullshit excuses. We’ve discussed this all before.

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Of course Crow supports/ed Trump. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

And, the "I hate communism and fascism" therefore I collect these things is a really fucking cute spin on this.

Hey, I'm Jared from Subway. I hate child porn so therefore I must collect all the child porn so nobody else has it ...

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  On 5/4/2024 at 5:54 PM, C-Man said:

 

Of course Crow supports/ed Trump. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

And, the "I hate communism and fascism" therefore I collect these things is a really fucking cute spin on this.

Hey, I'm Jared from Subway. I hate child porn so therefore I must collect all the child porn so nobody else has it ...

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Well you know him apparently!  Hes a big supporter of No Labels which strongly suggests he’s not on board with Trump. But I don’t know him like you do. 

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  On 5/4/2024 at 5:59 PM, Rex Kramer said:
Well you know him apparently!  Hes a big supporter of No Labels which strongly suggests he’s not on board with Trump. But I don’t know him like you do. 

He has full legal ownership and title to a Supreme Court justice whose wife actively worked to overthrow the government so Trump could return as President for Life. You are what you openly support.
He’s a traitor and should die a traitor’s death someday.
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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 7:38 PM, mchookem said:
well i'm convinced, i'm sure he's a great guy.
 
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It is odd watching a grown man (I assume Rex is a man) defending another grown man (who I assume he's never met) from negative comments on the internet.
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  On 5/4/2024 at 7:45 PM, Brisketexan said:


He has full legal ownership and title to a Supreme Court justice whose wife actively worked to overthrow the government so Trump could return as President for Life. You are what you openly support.
He’s a traitor and should die a traitor’s death someday.

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CT or Harlan?

  On 5/4/2024 at 7:47 PM, tchookem said:
  On 5/4/2024 at 7:38 PM, mchookem said:
well i'm convinced, i'm sure he's a great guy.
 
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It is odd watching a grown man (I assume Rex is a man) defending another grown man (who I assume he's never met) from negative comments on the internet.

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The tweet was horseshit and a prime example of typical media bullshit.  The Nazi accusations are horseshit.  It’s perplexing anyone would contend otherwise.  Criticism of Harlan and his subsidization of the Thomases is equal parts legal, odd and concerning on multiple levels and I’ll never defend that. 

  On 5/4/2024 at 7:45 PM, jimmyjazz said:

No, YOU apparently know him and you're carrying his water, as you often do for oligarchs and theocrats.

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I’m familiar with him. I don’t know him personally but know men personally with more wealth than him. His relationship with CT is concerning. Moreso from CT’s part. I’m not familiar with any other “oligarch and theocrats” for which I’ve carried water?

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Posted
  On 5/4/2024 at 7:58 PM, tchookem said:

^^^ This is just weird. I mean it's not "proudly collecting Nazi shit" weird, but it's weird.

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Ok. I think Horns saying “this bullshit journalism is bullshit” with respect to one of our own, and a big donor to UT, isn’t weird. I’m not defending his other political activities. I think it’s “weird” that we wouldn’t call out BS journalism when we see it, but perhaps this forum isn’t as open minded as it purports. 

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  On 5/4/2024 at 8:07 PM, ChiTownDoc said:

Ah yes, same reason I have all this UT memorabilia all over my house, office etc etc.  LOL

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Fair. And I wouldn’t do it. Also to be fair he doesn’t have Nazi shit all over his house. Dude is a massive art collector and has a few Hitler paintings. Still weird but it’s not like he arted up his house like Berlin in ‘39

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  On 5/4/2024 at 8:09 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Ok. I think Horns saying “this bullshit journalism is bullshit” with respect to one of our own, and a big donor to UT, isn’t weird. I’m not defending his other political activities. I think it’s “weird” that we wouldn’t call out BS journalism when we see it, but perhaps this forum isn’t as open minded as it purports. 

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In my world, criticism of "bullshit journalism" would have no concern for "one of our own" and money donated, but shockingly, you feel differently.  Everything is for sale with you guys.

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  On 5/4/2024 at 8:24 PM, jimmyjazz said:

In my world, criticism of "bullshit journalism" would have no concern for "one of our own" and money donated, but shockingly, you feel differently.  Everything is for sale with you guys.

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Fair. His UT involvement is the only reason I commented, though. What do you mean, “you guys”?

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  On 5/4/2024 at 8:11 PM, Rex Kramer said:

Dude is a massive art collector and has a few Hitler paintings

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Other than that Mrs Lincoln how did you enjoy the play?

 

or if you’d rather 

….if you fuck just one sheep…

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