Jay Hartzell is not out standard

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

15 minutes ago, usmc0331horn said:

Standing up against the destruction of a people is a just cause and is on the right side of history so I'm not sure why it's baffling that young women would be for that. 

So why didn’t they stand up for it when Hamas was doing it to their own people? 

[Brisketexan 105095]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

So why didn’t they stand up for it when Hamas was doing it to their own people? 

I mean....Hamas was/is an utterly shitty government, corrupt as hell, stealing resources meant for the people, all that shit.....but I'm pretty sure they weren't blowing up thousands of Gazans every month.  Unless I missed something.

And yes, people should have been calling Hamas on the carpet for a long fucking time, based on their corrupt governance alone.

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

I mean....Hamas was/is an utterly shitty government, corrupt as hell, stealing resources meant for the people, all that shit.....but I'm pretty sure they weren't blowing up thousands of Gazans every month.  Unless I missed something.

And yes, people should have been calling Hamas on the carpet for a long fucking time, based on their corrupt governance alone.

War is tough. People die. Such is the nature of it. 

[Brisketexan 105095]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

War is tough. People die. Such is the nature of it. 

But seriously....who would have protested Gaza slaughtering thousands of its own citizens when....it wasn't doing that?  What are you even talking about?

[Sawbonz 27546]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So why didn’t they stand up for it when Hamas was doing it to their own people? 

DurHurHur

 

y’all please quit engaging this moron. 

Edited May 3 by Sawbonz

[High Plains Drifter 11035]

On 4/29/2024 at 10:07 AM, jimmyjazz said:

I'd be curious to see when people think conservatism veered away from small government, state's rights, individual freedoms, etc.

 

I would say that in my political lifetime, other than some token lip service, conservatism has never been about those things. 

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45898]

24 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So why didn’t they stand up for it when Hamas was doing it to their own people? 

Well, there's that detail where the United States isn't selling weapons to Hamas.

[tx 3 putt 76905]

 

[WhatTheBuck 28776]

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

And yes, people should have been calling Hamas on the carpet for a long fucking time, based on their corrupt governance alone.

Palestinians who did that tended to disappear. 

Edited May 4 by WhatTheBuck

[BrickHorn 18218]

47 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

This is what fascists do. They lie. And they do so preposterously. Orwell was a god damned prophet.

The implication that “silencing Jewish students” was a goal of the protests is a lie. There were of course counterprotests which, although smaller, were not “silenced” or otherwise harassed by those protesting against Israel. 

And stating that the university upheld its values and mission statements is another absurd lie. This is the same university that, just last year, couldn’t shut the fuck up about how committed it was to free speech on campus. Self-congratulatory puffery about that supposed commitment is all over the UT website.

But maybe I’m being too narrow minded. Maybe UT truly is committed to its core values, which only last week became obedience, capricious order, and selective rights.

And maybe Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

 

Edited May 4 by BrickHorn

[CTC2 2795]

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I think people are figuring out what some have known for a while that there are some very rich and powerful people who want to fundamentally change UT Austin.  The issue of how they handled the protests is just in keeping with the tenor and tone they desire to achieve. 
I’ve actually heard someone on that list say that conservatism is the only thing they admire about A&M. 

[bschoolprof 6252]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

What a ridiculous tweet from a reporter employed by a major newspaper.  Do better.  

[babysdaddy 2721]

What a ridiculous tweet from a reporter employed by a major newspaper.  Do better.  

She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.

[jimmyjazz 45898]

8 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.

Or, you know, correct.

[Anastasis 23469]

Her beat is the houston ISD, so we aren't talking about a rocket surgeon here. 

[Welshy 907]

43 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.

[tx 3 putt 76905]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-hitler-paintings-nazi-memorabilia-1234711860/amp/
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/08/clarence-thomas-supreme-court-harlan-crow-hitler-memorabilia

[Sawbonz 27546]

49 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

She knows he has them which means she knows why he collects them. Which means she’s purposely framing a tweet to smear him and all the other signers. Which makes her a cunt.

Fuck Harlan Crow

1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

What a ridiculous tweet from a reporter employed by a major newspaper.  Do better.  

Fuck Harlan Crow

[tx 3 putt 76905]

Just now, Sawbonz said:

Fuck Harlan Crow

[F250 28767]

1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

What a ridiculous tweet from a reporter employed by a major newspaper.  Do better.  

[Rex Kramer 1335]

12 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Or, you know, correct.

She’s 100% wrong. Harlan Crow is the furthest thing from a Nazi. 

[BevoAbyss 2058]

19 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Harlan Crow is the furthest thing from a Nazi. 

I submit that if Harlan Crow has supported or voted for Trump, he is a f*cking fascist …. or 100% fascist enabler, like the German industrialists who stood by and profited as the Nazis seized power in 1930s Germany. 

F*ck Trammel Crow and all those rich GQP assholes in Highland Park. They know what they are supporting: fascism and theocracy.

History is clear on all this BS.

Edited May 4 by BevoAbyss

[Sawbonz 27546]

25 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

She’s 100% wrong. Harlan Crow is the furthest thing from a Nazi. 

He’s a piece of shit though. Too bad his mom made it to the lifeboat 

[wildcat09 29349]

30 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

She’s 100% wrong. Harlan Crow is the furthest thing from a Nazi. 

Lol, ok Rex.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13581]

29 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

She’s 100% wrong. Harlan Crow is the furthest thing from a Nazi. 

ENHANCE YOUR CREDIBILITY THROUGH HYPERBOLE ASK ME HOW!

[Rex Kramer 1335]

21 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

I submit that if Harlan Crow has supported or voted for Trump, he is a f*cking fascist …. or 100% fascist enabler, like the German industrialists who stood by and profited as the Nazis seized power in 1930s Germany. 

F*ck Trammel Crow and all those rich GQP assholes in Highland Park. They know what they are supporting: fascism and theocracy.

History is clear on all this BS.

I don’t know if he has supported Trump at all. Certainly not like W or No Labels. Also, from Wiki:

Crow's Dallas residence has an extensive collection of historical artifacts, including communist and Nazi memorabilia. His residence houses two paintings by Adolf Hitler and a signed copy of Mein Kampf.^{[37][38][39][40][41]} Crow's backyard garden features what he named the 'Garden of Evil',^[42] which is home to at least 20 statues of authoritarian leaders and Communist icons including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro,  Mao Zedong, Karl Marx, Hosni Mubarak, Josip Broz Tito, Nicolae Ceausescu, Walter Ulbricht, Gavrilo Princip, Bela Kun, and Che Guevara.^[43][44][45] Crow acquired these former public monuments after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc.^[3] According to Crow, he collects such memorabilia because he "hates communism and fascism".^[46] Crow also owns original paintings by Claude Monet, Rembrandt Peale, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Winston Churchill, and Dwight D. Eisenhower.^[47]

[wildcat09 29349]

Yes we’re all aware of his bullshit excuses. We’ve discussed this all before.

[BevoAbyss 2058]

11 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Crow also owns original paintings by Claude Monet, Rembrandt Peale, Pierre-Auguste Renoir,

Owning great is not necessarily a signal of enlightenment. So did a lot of Nazis. They stole art and pillaged museums all across Europe. And, yes, some Nazis even liked some of the more modernist stuff. 

Check out the great documentary The Rape of Europa or the fantastic film, The Train (directed by John Frankenheimer). Both are powerful treatments about art stolen by the Nazis. 

Edited May 4 by BevoAbyss

[Rex Kramer 1335]

8 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yes we’re all aware of his bullshit excuses. We’ve discussed this all before.

 

1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

That's not necessarily a signal of enlightenment. So did a lot of Nazis. They stole art and pillaged museums all across Europe. And, yes, some Nazis even liked some of the more modernist stuff. 

Check out the great documentary The Rape of Europa or the fantastic film, The Train (directed by John Frankenheimer). Both are powerful treatments about art stolen by the Nazis. 

I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 

[wildcat09 29349]

7 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

 

I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 

The man collects Nazi napkins. 

[tchookem 3900]

I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 

Buying influence is not the same thing as giving money.

[Rex Kramer 1335]

36 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The man collects Nazi napkins. 

Rich people collect rare shit. Who knows their real motivations. I suspect it’s better in his hands in a private collection than in true neo nazi extremists. 

8 minutes ago, tchookem said:

43 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t like his relationship with Thomas. But the guy isn’t a nazi and he’s given a shitload of $ to UT. It was a total bullshit tweet and smear attempt. 

Buying influence is not the same thing as giving money.

In his case it’s clear he does both. 

[Sawbonz 27546]

This guy bought citizenship in the Caribbean. And is allowed to donate millions to a political party and give untold benefits to a sitting Supreme Court justice

[C-Man 27214]

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

According to Crow, he collects such memorabilia because he "hates communism and fascism".^[46] Crow also owns original paintings by Claude Monet, Rembrandt Peale, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Winston Churchill, and Dwight D. Eisenhower.^[47]

 

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

Yes we’re all aware of his bullshit excuses. We’ve discussed this all before.

Of course Crow supports/ed Trump. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

And, the "I hate communism and fascism" therefore I collect these things is a really fucking cute spin on this.

Hey, I'm Jared from Subway. I hate child porn so therefore I must collect all the child porn so nobody else has it ...

Edited May 4 by C-Man

[Rex Kramer 1335]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

Of course Crow supports/ed Trump. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

And, the "I hate communism and fascism" therefore I collect these things is a really fucking cute spin on this.

Hey, I'm Jared from Subway. I hate child porn so therefore I must collect all the child porn so nobody else has it ...

Well you know him apparently!  Hes a big supporter of No Labels which strongly suggests he’s not on board with Trump. But I don’t know him like you do. 

[mchookem 16327]

well i'm convinced, i'm sure he's a great guy.

 

[jimmyjazz 45898]

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

Well you know him apparently!  

No, YOU apparently know him and you're carrying his water, as you often do for oligarchs and theocrats.

[Brisketexan 105095]

Well you know him apparently!  Hes a big supporter of No Labels which strongly suggests he’s not on board with Trump. But I don’t know him like you do. 

He has full legal ownership and title to a Supreme Court justice whose wife actively worked to overthrow the government so Trump could return as President for Life. You are what you openly support.
He’s a traitor and should die a traitor’s death someday.

[tchookem 3900]

well i'm convinced, i'm sure he's a great guy.
 

It is odd watching a grown man (I assume Rex is a man) defending another grown man (who I assume he's never met) from negative comments on the internet.

[Rex Kramer 1335]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

He has full legal ownership and title to a Supreme Court justice whose wife actively worked to overthrow the government so Trump could return as President for Life. You are what you openly support.
He’s a traitor and should die a traitor’s death someday.

CT or Harlan?

4 minutes ago, tchookem said:

14 minutes ago, mchookem said:

well i'm convinced, i'm sure he's a great guy.
 

It is odd watching a grown man (I assume Rex is a man) defending another grown man (who I assume he's never met) from negative comments on the internet.

The tweet was horseshit and a prime example of typical media bullshit.  The Nazi accusations are horseshit.  It’s perplexing anyone would contend otherwise.  Criticism of Harlan and his subsidization of the Thomases is equal parts legal, odd and concerning on multiple levels and I’ll never defend that. 

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No, YOU apparently know him and you're carrying his water, as you often do for oligarchs and theocrats.

I’m familiar with him. I don’t know him personally but know men personally with more wealth than him. His relationship with CT is concerning. Moreso from CT’s part. I’m not familiar with any other “oligarch and theocrats” for which I’ve carried water?

[tchookem 3900]

^^^ This is just weird. I mean it's not "proudly collecting Nazi shit" weird, but it's weird.

[ChiTownDoc 21151]

3 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t know if he has supported Trump at all. Certainly not like W or No Labels. Also, from Wiki:

Crow's Dallas residence has an extensive collection of historical artifacts, including communist and Nazi memorabilia. His residence houses two paintings by Adolf Hitler and a signed copy of Mein Kampf.^{[37][38][39][40][41]} Crow's backyard garden features what he named the 'Garden of Evil',^[42] which is home to at least 20 statues of authoritarian leaders and Communist icons including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro,  Mao Zedong, Karl Marx, Hosni Mubarak, Josip Broz Tito, Nicolae Ceausescu, Walter Ulbricht, Gavrilo Princip, Bela Kun, and Che Guevara.^[43][44][45] Crow acquired these former public monuments after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc.^[3] According to Crow, he collects such memorabilia because he "hates communism and fascism".^[46] Crow also owns original paintings by Claude Monet, Rembrandt Peale, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Winston Churchill, and Dwight D. Eisenhower.^[47]

Ah yes, same reason I have all this UT memorabilia all over my house, office etc etc.  LOL

[Rex Kramer 1335]

8 minutes ago, tchookem said:

^^^ This is just weird. I mean it's not "proudly collecting Nazi shit" weird, but it's weird.

Ok. I think Horns saying “this bullshit journalism is bullshit” with respect to one of our own, and a big donor to UT, isn’t weird. I’m not defending his other political activities. I think it’s “weird” that we wouldn’t call out BS journalism when we see it, but perhaps this forum isn’t as open minded as it purports. 

[Sawbonz 27546]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

I think it’s “weird” that we wouldn’t call out BS journalism when we see it

Concerning

[Rex Kramer 1335]

2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Ah yes, same reason I have all this UT memorabilia all over my house, office etc etc.  LOL

Fair. And I wouldn’t do it. Also to be fair he doesn’t have Nazi shit all over his house. Dude is a massive art collector and has a few Hitler paintings. Still weird but it’s not like he arted up his house like Berlin in ‘39

[Rex Kramer 1335]

1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Concerning

Well I mean people all over Twitter are doing just that. 

[jimmyjazz 45898]

13 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Ok. I think Horns saying “this bullshit journalism is bullshit” with respect to one of our own, and a big donor to UT, isn’t weird. I’m not defending his other political activities. I think it’s “weird” that we wouldn’t call out BS journalism when we see it, but perhaps this forum isn’t as open minded as it purports. 

In my world, criticism of "bullshit journalism" would have no concern for "one of our own" and money donated, but shockingly, you feel differently.  Everything is for sale with you guys.

[Rex Kramer 1335]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

In my world, criticism of "bullshit journalism" would have no concern for "one of our own" and money donated, but shockingly, you feel differently.  Everything is for sale with you guys.

Fair. His UT involvement is the only reason I commented, though. What do you mean, “you guys”?

[Sawbonz 27546]

13 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Dude is a massive art collector and has a few Hitler paintings

Other than that Mrs Lincoln how did you enjoy the play?

 

or if you’d rather 

….if you fuck just one sheep…

[jimmyjazz 45898]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

What do you mean, “you guys”?

People who routinely stan for fascist wannabes.