Jay Hartzell is not out standard

[Chooky 13317]

24 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Fair. And I wouldn’t do it. Also to be fair he doesn’t have Nazi shit all over his house. Dude is a massive art collector and has a few Hitler paintings. Still weird but it’s not like he arted up his house like Berlin in ‘39

Come on, Rex. You know he's a ghoul. Aside from that bizarre shit, he's using the Supreme Court as his personal urinal. And no matter the ideology of anyone partaking in that garbage, that's how the hogs at the trough levels similar to that of the House get established in the judicial branch. It isn't sustainable and it's the Mexico starter kit. 

[Rex Kramer 1356]

3 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Come on, Rex. You know he's a ghoul. Aside from that bizarre shit, he's using the Supreme Court as his personal urinal. And no matter the ideology of anyone partaking in that garbage, that's how the hogs at the trough levels similar to that of the House get established in the judicial branch. It isn't sustainable and it's the Mexico starter kit. 

I like Mexico. Fine, fuck me in the goat ass. But it was a bullshit tweet. 

[C-Man 27254]

I’m still trying to figure out the part of her tweet that is wrong. Is it provocative? Of course. Is it not worth noting that Crow has signed on to a pro-Israel/anti-Palestine statement AND owning Nazi/Hitler art/memorabilia? Is that not noteworthy? I’m sure all of his Jewish guests love seeing Harlan’s copy of Mein Kampf or one of Hitler’s paintings when they visit his famed library.

[Chooky 13317]

5 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I like Mexico. Fine, fuck me in the goat ass. But it was a bullshit tweet. 

I didn't even see the tweet. Like Donny, I stumbled up in the middle of the movie. I was just addressing Dr Creepenstein's curious fascist regime fetish.

Also, I like Mexico, too, but their govt has left little to be desired. 

Edited May 4 by Chooky

[jimmyjazz 46093]

10 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Is it not worth noting that Crow has signed on to a pro-Israel/anti-Palestine statement AND owning Nazi/Hitler art/memorabilia?

How can someone be pro-Israel AND pro-Hitler?  COME ON!

Also, did you know Abraham Lincoln was a Republican?

[Sawbonz 27584]

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

How can someone be pro-Israel AND pro-Hitler?  COME ON!

Also, did you know Abraham Lincoln was a Republican?

I don’t know that he’s pro Hitler but he’s definitely a fucking weirdo. His mom was on a passenger ship sunk by the Nazis so maybe that kicked off his obsession who knows. But the Supreme Court shit and buying citizenship in the Caribbean to avoid US taxes and who knows what else pretty much seals him as a POS in my book. 
 

eta he could be one of those end of times nuts. You could easily be pro Hitler and pro Isreal if you believe all that means the second coming is nigh

Edited May 4 by Sawbonz

[jimmyjazz 46093]

5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

You could easily be pro Hitler and pro Isreal if you believe all that means the second coming is nigh

I don't think my sarcasm came through.

[wildcat09 29376]

Because Rex clearly missed our last conversation on this, I'll quote myself:

 

 

[Pods 7586]

It's some real smooth brained shit to suggest that a supporter of the No Labels Party is anti-Trump. The entire reason the No Labels Party exists is to siphon off moderate voters to aid Trump and Co. 

Even for Rex, that's fucking stupid. 

 

On 5/1/2024 at 10:44 AM, David Dennison said:

Imagine being so politicized you reject what are arguably the most beneficial discoveries of modern science.

Truly mind-bottling.

I mean, vaccines are pretty good and all, but the best thing modern science ever did is telling us about dinosaur dicks. 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/xd7qnq/we-asked-a-paleontologist-which-dinosaur-had-the-biggest-dick-924

 

[Captainant 27726]

 

 

4 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Dude is a massive art collector and has a few Hitler paintings

My man, choosing to keep a Hitler in your home is a fuckin CHOICE. If he thinks there's some cultural significance, donate it to a fucking museum and don't glorify one of the most evil men in modern history 

[Rex Kramer 1356]

2 hours ago, Pods said:

The entire reason the No Labels Party exists is to siphon off moderate voters to aid Trump and Co. 

I honestly thought it’d siphon significantly from both. I’m quite certain he was a Trump supporter in ‘16 and ‘20; there’s just no direct record of it. 

 

2 hours ago, Captainant said:

 

 

My man, choosing to keep a Hitler in your home is a fuckin CHOICE. If he thinks there's some cultural significance, donate it to a fucking museum and don't glorify one of the most evil men in modern history 

Yeah I’d like a do-over on this whole discussion. The more I consider it the more I think it’s just weird. I should’ve never commented. 

[SydneyCarton 48150]

16 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I honestly thought it’d siphon significantly from both. I’m quite certain he was a Trump supporter in ‘16 and ‘20; there’s just no direct record of it. 

 

Yeah I’d like a do-over on this whole discussion. The more I consider it the more I think it’s just weird. I should’ve never commented. 

 

 

[Rex Kramer 1356]

41 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

 

I admire the panache. If I were a billionaire, I’d try and own a SCJ and would avoid taxes too. 

[SydneyCarton 48150]

11 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I admire the panache. If I were a billionaire, I’d try and own a SCJ and would avoid taxes too. 

Of course if you were a billionaire you’d avoid paying your fair share of money back to the country that allowed you to amass such wealth, and you’d subvert democracy in your favor. Quite the flex. 

[Rex Kramer 1356]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Of course if you were a billionaire you’d avoid paying your fair share of money back to the country that allowed you to amass such wealth, and you’d subvert democracy in your favor. Quite the flex. 

First of all it was a joke. Second, I said multiple times any criticism of him outside the limited scope of the tweet was fine. Third, I later wished I hadn’t made any comment at all. Fourth, I laughed at your meme. Fifth, I like Mexico. 

[YGIFS 19452]

Goddamn, you are so brave sometimes...

[Pato del Muerto 52568]

If you’ve made or inherited billions, democracy is sufficiently in your favor already.  

[bolverk 29708]

39 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

I don't know. Jay Hartzell is kinda my standard. Whomever is running Columbia is not my standard.

You're never going to believe this, but UC-Berkely BERKELY!!! BERKELY!!! seems like they're handling it the best by respecting speech and not calling in the cops to "crack skulls" and inflaming the protesters.

 

Berkeley takes light touch on Gaza protests. Columbia called the police

May 2 (Reuters) - At Columbia University, tensions between the administration and students protesting over Israel's war in Gaza have reached the point that scores of New York City police marched onto campus to clear an encampment and arrest demonstrators who had commandeered a classroom building.

It was the second time in as many weeks that the administration has called on police to control the protests. Students have been suspended, and threatened with expulsion. Police are now stationed around-the-clock on campus.

Nearly three thousand miles away at the University of California, Berkeley, the scene has been far different. Student demonstrations have so far taken place without arrests or disruption of campus operations.

The contrast in how protests have played out at the two prestigious institutions - both with long histories of student activism - illustrates the range of factors at play in how school administrations, students and the police navigate what can quickly turn into a full-blown crisis.

South of Berkeley at UCLA, part of the same university system, police on Thursday morning flattened a pro-Palestinian camp, a day after it was attacked by pro-Israel counter protesters. Authorities at the Los Angeles school had declared the encampment an unlawful assembly.

Similar crackdowns have occurred at colleges across the country, from Arizona State to Virginia Tech and Ohio State to Yale. Police have arrested around 2,000 campus protesters to date.

Still, some universities - including Berkeley, Northwestern and Brown - have managed to avoid confrontations between the police and students.

Education experts say these cases offer lessons in keeping tensions from boiling over, a key one being a university's experience with balancing student activism against pressure from donors, interest groups and politicians.

Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ has allowed students to maintain a protest space on campus since they began erecting tents April 22 on the steps of Sproul Hall, where Martin Luther King gave a 1967 civil rights speech. Dan Mogulof, a spokesman for the university, said that remained the case Thursday, despite a scuffle Wednesday evening between the co-founder of a Zionist activist group and a pro-Palestinian protester. It was the first violence after days of peaceful assembly.

"We are urging everyone to avoid engaging in pointless provocation and physical conflict," Mogulof said, adding that Christ was in talks with encampment leaders after the Wednesday incident led to three minor injuries. He said the school would respond to violence in line with University of California policy.

That guidance tells administrators to avoid police involvement unless it's absolutely necessary and the physical safety of students, faculty and staff is threatened. That policy is rare, with most universities having some kind of regulation that prohibits permanent encampments or outlaws overnight student activities on campus.

The University of California system has seen in the past where police involvement can lead.

In a 2011 Berkeley protest during the Occupy movement against economic inequalities, campus police clubbed and jabbed students with batons. Then-Chancellor Robert J. Birgeneau later apologized, and the UC system shifted to the policy of restraint Berkeley spokesman Mogulof described.

 

[hayden_horn 11365]

i just got a mail from the exes declaring support for hartzell in my name. 

I'm fairly unhappy about it but I'm just a nobody so whatever

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This weekend, the Class of 2024 of The University of Texas at Austin will celebrate its Commencement. As we move forward as a community, the Board of Directors of the Texas Exes, the official alumni association of UT Austin, wishes to offer our support to President Jay Hartzell. 

We represent 570,000 alumni worldwide, and there is no way we can speak for such a large and diverse group, many of whom have vastly different opinions about the important global matters that sparked the recent protests at UT and elsewhere. We can, however, speak from our experience working closely with President Hartzell and watching him lead this community through some of the most challenging times our campus has experienced.  

During his time as president, we’ve seen firsthand that the safety and well-being of our students are President Hartzell’s primary focus. He is a thoughtful and principled leader who is fiercely committed to free speech. The job of a major public University president has always required making difficult decisions—but this is a time in our history when the crucial issues of our First Amendment rights and campus security must be constantly considered.  

This Board believes President Hartzell, with all the facts available to him, took appropriate action to protect students and prevent the campus from being overtaken or “occupied” by a group that included individuals who are not students, faculty, staff, or alumni during a pivotal time of the school year. He has the full support of the governing body of the Texas Exes.

Sincerely,
The Texas Exes Board of Directors

 

[Sawbonz 27584]

On 5/6/2024 at 10:16 AM, BeardIP said:

I don't know. Jay Hartzell is kinda my standard. Whomever is running Columbia is not my standard.

*whoever

[jimmyjazz 46093]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

*whoever

LMAO

[Rex Kramer 1356]

4 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

i just got a mail from the exes declaring support for hartzell in my name. 

I'm fairly unhappy about it but I'm just a nobody so whatever

 

If you’re not on the Board, nothing was declared in your name. 

[hayden_horn 11365]

oh right. i see that important distinction is indeed made in the text. 

carry on no big deal. 

nevertheless, it's my opinion that the statement was unnecessary and I'm not particularly happy about it. in fact, a statement like this, the votes of confidence from old guard types, rarely ends well for the person in question. 

hartzell needs to go. throw eltife out with him. the call is coming from inside the house

 

 

[jimmyjazz 46093]

9 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

nevertheless, it's my opinion that the statement was unnecessary and I'm not particularly happy about it. in fact, a statement like this, the votes of confidence from old guard types, rarely ends well for the person in question. 

hartzell needs to go. throw eltife out with him. the call is coming from inside the house

I don't pay much attention to LinkedIn, but one of my connections re-posted Hartzell's page & letter.  The number of people who lined up to fellate him was disgusting.  I think exactly two were critical.

I guess I shouldn't expect a much different demographic on that site, but still . . .

[jimmyjazz 46093]

1 minute ago, BeardIP said:

Yea.....on a site of adults with real jobs versus idealistic students and weirdo faculty. What exactly did you expect originally?

I didn't expect anything, dumbass.  I was surprised to see it when I saw it.  And fuck "weirdo faculty", have some respect for your (alleged) alma mater.

[royiv 9339]

12 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Yea.....on a site of adults with real jobs versus idealistic students and weirdo faculty. What exactly did you expect originally?

Did you go to college? If so, who taught your classes or did you attend Liberty?

[Smax 3800]

On 5/4/2024 at 3:09 PM, Rex Kramer said:

 I think it’s “weird” that we wouldn’t call out BS journalism when we see it, but perhaps this forum isn’t as open minded as it purports. 

Ahh yes, you're constant war to expose all the BS fox puts out on a daily basis has been admirable 

[Rex Kramer 1356]

2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

oh right. i see that important distinction is indeed made in the text. 

carry on no big deal. 

nevertheless, it's my opinion that the statement was unnecessary and I'm not particularly happy about it. in fact, a statement like this, the votes of confidence from old guard types, rarely ends well for the person in question. 

hartzell needs to go. throw eltife out with him. the call is coming from inside the house

 

 

It’s a very important distinction. Get on the Board or effect change on the Board. Hartzell isn’t going anywhere. He was a strong head who’s been strengthened by his actions of the past several weeks.  Your opinion is in the small minority. 

7 minutes ago, Smax said:

Ahh yes, you're constant war to expose all the BS fox puts out on a daily basis has been admirable 

Look I’m over my defense of the indefensible but if I’d noticed a similar Fox tweet I’d definitely comment on it. 

[YGIFS 19452]

For a guy who gives out so much guff about people who post about their relationship with UT higher-ups, you sure seem unable to shut the fuck about knowledge of what's going on inside UT/BOR/System.  Which is it smart guy?  

[Leeroy Jenkins 2411]

[bolverk 29708]

19 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

 

You'll have to tell us what it says. ISRAEL ____?____

[Surly Bevo 25139]

9 minutes ago, bolverk said:

You'll have to tell us what it says. ISRAEL ____?____

Think it says "Isreal Isn't SEC"

Seriously though, blurry, backward and turned upside down that second word is hard to make out. 

[miguelito 11290]

Scrong. 

[Sawbonz 27584]

1 hour ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Is that a banner for ants?

[lucious leftfoot 126]

On 5/10/2024 at 9:00 AM, jimmyjazz said:

I don't pay much attention to LinkedIn, but one of my connections re-posted Hartzell's page & letter.  The number of people who lined up to fellate him was disgusting.  I think exactly two were critical

Maybe he actually handled it well, in hindsight.

I hope the athletic department can survive all the Surly CR withdrawing financial support for the University as long as Hartzell is in charge. 

[Chewy's Hairy Horn 868]

“Israel strong”, I believe.

[jimmyjazz 46093]

40 minutes ago, lucious leftfoot said:

Maybe he actually handled it well, in hindsight.

He absolutely did not.

 

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I hope the athletic department can survive all the Surly CR withdrawing financial support for the University as long as Hartzell is in charge. 

I don't give a flying fuck whether any support I withhold causes financial grief, it obviously won't.  It doesn't mean I should just cut the check anyway, does it?

[MirrOlure 14817]

Any idea that either Hartzell or Eltife will suffer even the slightest hint of losing their respective positions is laughable. Each is entrenched in their respective positions for as long as they choose to be (unless Eltife’s position has a specific term, that I don’t know).

[jimmyjazz 46093]

15 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

Any idea that either Hartzell or Eltife will suffer even the slightest hint of losing their respective positions is laughable. Each is entrenched in their respective positions for as long as they choose to be (unless Eltife’s position has a specific term, that I don’t know).

True, because UT has been weaponized.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2411]

Yeah it was Israel Strong. The lettering was also backwards from the Westside of the stadium.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

There's a hold on your transcript and diploma and we're too "incompetent" to tell you how to resolve it.

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The letter doesn't say how long UT's conduct proceedings could take or what the resolution would be, despite the Travis County Attorney's Office dropping charges against her and all the other protest-related cases from that day.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/student-investigated-over-palestinian-protests-ut-austin/269-bb36ab84-2a32-4df8-b113-abafa1ce6385

Of course, this has now become a university that hires internet trolls to teaching positions, so maybe it is genuine incompetence. 

[Blotto 23568]

Thats some bush league bullshit. Give the lady her fucking degree. Jay hartzell is a boot licking pussy. 

[1978horn 895]

Figured this was the best place.  They are going to lose a lot of people.

Dear UT community,   Beginning this fall semester, the University will require almost all staff members to work on site full time. This will be a significant change for some members of our community, so it is important to take a step back and explain why requiring in-person work best supports our culture and reinforces the teaching and research mission of our University. Staff members can most effectively serve our students, faculty, fellow staff members, and other stakeholders when working together in an environment that fosters collaboration, innovation, availability, and reliability. Our vibrant campus community helps distinguish our great University, and as members of our staff, you contribute to that vibrancy each day. We are here because of our students, and your consistent presence will help provide a more complete and engaging learning experience for students throughout campus. Leaders of colleges, schools, and units will work through the logistics of these changes and, by early July, will finalize their plans to bring most staff members back to on-site work full time. All plans will be fully implemented by Aug. 19, which is one week before the start of fall classes. Based on the revised guidelines, a small number of roles will continue to be eligible for remote or hybrid work at the discretion of the supervisor and college, school, or unit leader. These roles will be characterized by observable productivity; work that is transactional, internal, or service related; or functions that require high levels of individual time to perform.  For all staff members, some occasions may call for irregular schedules or intermittent remote work that does not require formal arrangements. Managers will continue to make those decisions on an as-needed basis. Thank you for your work and your profound dedication to our Longhorn community. I look forward to having students, faculty, and staff together on the Forty Acres as we continue to make this the world’s highest-impact public research university.  Sincerely yours, Jay Hartzell President

[Chuckie Finster 22725]

Genuine ignorance here ... are there a significant number of University positions still working remotely?

[YChang 3462]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Genuine ignorance here ... are there a significant number of University positions still working remotely?

Staff, not faculty

[1978horn 895]

4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Genuine ignorance here ... are there a significant number of University positions still working remotely?

Oh yeah and with people who live in other states.

[UnivTex34 1763]

CIO immediately did damage control through internal Teams channel, stating ITS policies will not change as of now. His message was sent within minutes of the email hitting, so my guess is most CSU's leadership are in full damage control mode.

[SydneyCarton 48150]

27 minutes ago, 1978horn said:

Figured this was the best place.  They are going to lose a lot of people.

Dear UT community,   Beginning this fall semester, the University will require almost all staff members to work on site full time. This will be a significant change for some members of our community, so it is important to take a step back and explain why requiring in-person work best supports our culture and reinforces the teaching and research mission of our University. Staff members can most effectively serve our students, faculty, fellow staff members, and other stakeholders when working together in an environment that fosters collaboration, innovation, availability, and reliability. Our vibrant campus community helps distinguish our great University, and as members of our staff, you contribute to that vibrancy each day. We are here because of our students, and your consistent presence will help provide a more complete and engaging learning experience for students throughout campus. Leaders of colleges, schools, and units will work through the logistics of these changes and, by early July, will finalize their plans to bring most staff members back to on-site work full time. All plans will be fully implemented by Aug. 19, which is one week before the start of fall classes. Based on the revised guidelines, a small number of roles will continue to be eligible for remote or hybrid work at the discretion of the supervisor and college, school, or unit leader. These roles will be characterized by observable productivity; work that is transactional, internal, or service related; or functions that require high levels of individual time to perform.  For all staff members, some occasions may call for irregular schedules or intermittent remote work that does not require formal arrangements. Managers will continue to make those decisions on an as-needed basis. Thank you for your work and your profound dedication to our Longhorn community. I look forward to having students, faculty, and staff together on the Forty Acres as we continue to make this the world’s highest-impact public research university.  Sincerely yours, Jay Hartzell President

Why is this a big deal?

[UnivTex34 1763]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Why is this a big deal?

I'm staff. I work with people daily that are not even in the state, and never have been. During COVID, lots of remote workers were hired to fill staff vacancies, most from out of state. And lots of folks have gotten used to only 2-3 days on campus, with zero productivity drop. University staff don't exactly make the big bucks, so we are expecting a not-insignificant number of departures from staff. Especially in IT roles, that can go make much more elsewhere.

[SydneyCarton 48150]

4 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

I'm staff. I work with people daily that are not even in the state, and never have been. During COVID, lots of remote workers were hired to fill staff vacancies, most from out of state. And lots of folks have gotten used to only 2-3 days on campus, with zero productivity drop. University staff don't exactly make the big bucks, so we are expecting a not-insignificant number of departures from staff. Especially in IT roles, that can go make much more elsewhere.

I mean the IT facet I get. Can and should be allowed to work from anywhere. I'd assume that's all down to managers. I guess my thought is...what other vast amounts of staff (not IT) are working 2-3 days off campus a week? Certanily not janitors, or librarians, etc. I guess my real question, is how many "staff" positions don't bascially have to be in person already? I guess I'm completely ignorant.