Jay Hartzell is not out standard

[Longhorn_Fan68 33867]

34 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

There’s a surprising number of Surly posters who say they don’t care, but take the time to post anyway.

 

18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Our board activity would go down 50% if people who claim not to care about something just didn’t post about it 

reminds me of the scarecrow calling out people without brains. if you don't care, why are you here? jfc

[gurt 748]

My wife's team, despite being completely clerical/administrative and never needing to interact with students or faculty, is likely to be forced back 5 days a week.  So stupid.  She is going to leave, they can take their 2% raises and shove it up their ass.

[royiv 9262]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I don’t really care. 

It’s time for your nap, grandpa. 

26 minutes ago, gurt said:

My wife's team, despite being completely clerical/administrative and never needing to interact with students or faculty, is likely to be forced back 5 days a week.  So stupid.  She is going to leave, they can take their 2% raises and shove it up their ass.

Good. I hope this backfires horribly on these idiots.

[ChiTownDoc 21144]

Even before Covid nobody on our corporate team worked at the office.  I mean we have over 100 nonclinical employees and there's less than 5 in an office daily.  I don't get why people need to be in an office for the vast majority of jobs.  I guess we're fairly young and dynamic and are lucky to have a culture, without needing to cram people in cubicles together.  I appreciate companies that force work at office because we've been able to pick off really talented people for much less...

[Foosters 17841]

One of my favorite things is when people who post non-stop during a workday on this message board hop onto threads to assertively claim that they know the best way to maximize workplace efficiency. 

[safe sex 11697]

43 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Even before Covid nobody on our corporate team worked at the office.  I mean we have over 100 nonclinical employees and there's less than 5 in an office daily.  I don't get why people need to be in an office for the vast majority of jobs.  I guess we're fairly young and dynamic and are lucky to have a culture, without needing to cram people in cubicles together.  I appreciate companies that force work at office because we've been able to pick off really talented people for much less...

Y'all hiring remote RNs by any chance??

[ChiTownDoc 21144]

52 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Y'all hiring remote RNs by any chance??

We do RPM/chronic care mgt so we do have some remote RN’s.  Don’t need any more yet but should soon.  

[jimmyjazz 45889]

24 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

3) the gains of WFH (e.g. working longer hours, evenings, etc.) are probably off set equally by the losses (going to the cleaners and Home Depot at 11am or going to a baseball practice at 3p).

The demand of assessing worthiness should be put on managers who assess performance of those who report to them.  End of story.

[956 Worldwide 34702]

3 hours ago, gurt said:

My wife's team, despite being completely clerical/administrative and never needing to interact with students or faculty, is likely to be forced back 5 days a week.  So stupid.  She is going to leave, they can take their 2% raises and shove it up their ass.

Honestly, clerical and admin staff are the hardest to effectively manage and use via WFH.  Creatives, people with defined long-term projects measured by milestones, IT, number crunchers….sure, they can crank out stuff at home.  But the fact is you need the clerical and admin staff to be available to take stuff that just comes up, shift quickly when needed, and just in general be “admin.” Of course, clerical and admin is a big range and I don’t know the team specifics. 

It’s easy to say “just ask managers to plan better” but the fact is that piling up more emails, Zoom calls, check-ins, etc means that you’re shifting work from lower per hour to higher per hour and that is rarely a good value proposition.

[South Austin 52454]

1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

the gains of WFH (e.g. working longer hours, evenings, etc.) are probably off set equally by the losses (going to the cleaners and Home Depot at 11am or going to a baseball practice at 3p).

Don’t forget all the masturbation.

[royiv 9262]

3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Don’t forget all the masturbation.

No net difference. What’s stopping anyone from cranking one out at their cubicle?

[Surly Bevo 24908]

Who needs masturbation when you can plow the secretary with the big jugs on the conference room table?  amirite?  

[BurdineBandit 815]

8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Abbott has every intention on changing UT. He wants Liberty U with better academics. 

Getting rid of the liberal rank and file is a part of his plan (imo) 

This is 1000% where my head is. I'm staff, and will have my WFH cut because of this (if I can't find a job by August 19th). The other kick in the nuts is that at the same Staff Council meeting they discussed this months ago, they also noted that the University's merit pool is also being de-funded. CSU's will have to fund it themselves (easy, right?).

I have no doubt that whatever budget man Hartzell hired was brought in to make corporate-style cuts to services and staff. Thus, this policy. It's completely in line with what the corporate overlords want, which is what Greg wants, which is JH's directive. Which usually means being an absolute piece of shit to staff and making it clear that they aren't welcome. They'll leave a percentage of the jobs unfilled, those that they do fill will be less-skilled and paid less. So do I stay in my student-facing role with a bled-out team that will be overworked and understaffed with the next person who quits (hopefully me first)? Or head to greener pastures. God fucking forbid I hang on to the sliver of hope that I could make a career out of trying to help college students figure out their lives. 

I just got my 10-year staff service award sent to me last month too. Invited to the President's award ceremony for light snacks and a speech from the man himself. Kiss my ass. He was already on my shit list for being Abbott's lackey. No way in hell I was showing up to hear him spill platitudes out the side of his mouth where Greg's dick isn't. 

[gmr548 16576]

1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

 

3) the gains of WFH (e.g. working longer hours, evenings, etc.) are probably off set equally by the losses (going to the cleaners and Home Depot at 11am or going to a baseball practice at 3p).

Until you lose good talent over draconian policy

[TexEx15 17509]

Like most things, the right answer probably lies somewhere in the middle. I think a hybrid schedule like 2 days in the office that may slide a bit depending on specific roles is the right solution.

[956 Worldwide 34702]

10 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

Like most things, the right answer probably lies somewhere in the middle. I think a hybrid schedule like 2 days in the office that may slide a bit depending on specific roles is the right solution.

Agree with this, and with generous flex for when things come up and there’s projects and tasks that can be dug into and attacked from home.

[TexEx15 17509]

10 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Agree with this, and with generous flex for when things come up and there’s projects and tasks that can be dug into and attacked from home.

Yep. I go out of my way to meet my staff’s needs when it comes to flexibility. Family and life always come first. I’ve also found that when you treat folks that way, when shit does hit the fan and you need that little extra out of them they are happy to do it knowing you have and will have their back. 

[hayden_horn 11362]

lol the old downsize via "voluntary attrition" move

[gurt 748]

13 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Honestly, clerical and admin staff are the hardest to effectively manage and use via WFH.  Creatives, people with defined long-term projects measured by milestones, IT, number crunchers….sure, they can crank out stuff at home.  But the fact is you need the clerical and admin staff to be available to take stuff that just comes up, shift quickly when needed, and just in general be “admin.” Of course, clerical and admin is a big range and I don’t know the team specifics. 

It’s easy to say “just ask managers to plan better” but the fact is that piling up more emails, Zoom calls, check-ins, etc means that you’re shifting work from lower per hour to higher per hour and that is rarely a good value proposition.

I guess I follow you, but their job is to pull items out of a queue and work on them alone, with a Teams slack channel to ask any questions that might come up.  About as ideal as a WFH job could be.  Yet, because they are in the provost office, they have to fall in line with what the president wants.  

And regarding flexibility, there is none at UT.  Butts in seat 8-5.  If you have nothing to do and it is 430 and would like to get a jumpstart on beating traffic?  Tough, you're sitting there clock watching.

[jimmyjazz 45889]

13 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

Like most things, the right answer probably lies somewhere in the middle. I think a hybrid schedule like 2 days in the office that may slide a bit depending on specific roles is the right solution.

I think the "one size fits all" mentality is lazy.  It's up to management to assess the performance of direct reports and implement the practices that will best optimize results.  While some jobs require full-time on-site attendance, many don't.  Technology has changed the game in many ways.

Some people who in theory could work from home don't want to do that.  They want to be in the office.  Great.  Many others (like me) perform better working from home.  Not the same, better.  I report directly to our CEO, and when Covid forced us to require many of us to work from home, my quality of work and work output noticeably improved.  Part of it was the lack of wasted commute time.  Part of it was psychological -- the way my brain works, if I drive to the office, put in a day's work, and drive home, I'm done.  If I work from home, I not only work more hours M-F, I am much more inclined to put in significant hours on the weekend.  I'm not hamstrung by office hours, and I'm happy to work more.

Some people aren't like that.  Accommodate them accordingly, and do the same for people like me.

Edited June 14 by jimmyjazz

[CooterBrown 18004]

My office has 180 cubes for 550 employees. Depending on your role, you go in 0-2 days per week.  There are like 20 people that go in 5 days a week by choice. As a consulting firm, I think our bean counters like the extra profit margin less office space creates. 

 

[jimmyjazz 45889]

12 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

My office has 180 cubes for 550 employees. Depending on your role, you go in 0-2 days per week.  There are like 20 people that go in 5 days a week by choice. As a consulting firm, I think our bean counters like the extra profit margin less office space creates. 

It's a thing for sure, and it's not hard to understand.  Real estate is a lot more expensive than a VPN connection.

[Captainant 27637]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's a thing for sure, and it's not hard to understand.  Real estate is a lot more expensive than a VPN connection.

This isn't about efficiency, it's about culture warring 

[Pancho 44712]

I’m actually surprised UT had a WFH option for Staff (and I had no idea UT was doing this). It’s not really a thing in higher ed. 

The only state I know of that gives the option for WFH for staff and administrators is Maryland (and I think Massachusett) and even that is iffy by campus. 

What interesting is data has shown that as long as students have access in some way to the student services they need (advising, FA, TRiO, etc.) when they need then, they don’t care if the person is on campus or online. They just want the help.

[HenryJames 66038]

More like Jay Fartzell amirite.

[jimmyjazz 45889]

4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

This isn't about efficiency, it's about culture warring 

I wasn't talking about the UT situation.  That one is political, and a classic "cut off your nose to spite your face" situation.

[Captainant 27637]

9 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I’m actually surprised UT had a WFH option for Staff (and I had no idea UT was doing this). It’s not really a thing in higher ed. 

The only state I know of that gives the option for WFH for staff and administrators is Maryland (and I think Massachusett) and even that is iffy by campus. 

What interesting is data has shown that as long as students have access in some way to the student services they need (advising, FA, TRiO, etc.) when they need then, they don’t care if the person is on campus or online. They just want the help.

My mom runs UTs student services onestop and has been for a few years prior to COVID. She said since their move to virtual they've actually been able to increase call volume that their office handles and they went from being the finaid desk to the front door for all of student services. 

They moved her office to the tower out of SSB, and Lord knows there ain't enough room for all of the call agents clocking in and out. Having the home work environment combined with a modernized call platform meant her employees and student workers could serve the university from anywhere. It's a meaningful and significant constraint to force everyone back into the office 

Edited June 14 by Captainant

[Pancho 44712]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

My mom runs UTs student services onestop and has been for a few years prior to COVID. She said since their move to virtual they've actually been able to increase call volume that their office handles and they went from being the finaid desk to the front door for all of student services. 

They moved her office to the tower out of SSB, and Lord knows there ain't enough room for all of the call agents clocking in and out. Having the home work environment combined with a modernized call platform meant her employees and student workers could serve the university from anywhere. It's a meaningful and significant constraint to force everyone back into the office 

I believe it. Students today are more online and online whenever they can, whether that’s on their break at work or while picking up their kids or while helping their parents at home. They are more likely to get online for a service from wherever they can than to drive up to campus, find a parking spot, and then ask 2-3 people where is the office they need. And if they have to wait for 10 minutes online, that’s more appealing because you’re already doing something else within that 10 minute wait compared to being on campus where you’re just sitting there. 

I was surprised California didn’t lead the way in WFH for at least 2 days a week. For higher ed, it’s not as harmful as people think.

The problem are the constituents and alumni.

[BurdineBandit 815]

56 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I’m actually surprised UT had a WFH option for Staff (and I had no idea UT was doing this). It’s not really a thing in higher ed. 

 

I've been somewhat considering moving back to Houston in the near future and UH does a hybrid schedule as well, as does UH-CL (which is a lot bigger than when I last lived there 15 years ago).

[jimmyjazz 45889]

52 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I believe it. Students today are more online and online whenever they can,

This is true.  My daughter is on track to graduate UT summa cum laude in 5 calendar years, with the delay due to her frequent touring in a rock band.  She has had a helluva time finding coursework she can do online, but she's made it work.  She "attends" class from hotel rooms and the band van all over North America, and then in person when they're back in Austin.  Kids are extremely adaptable.  UT needs to adapt, but unfortunately, Greg and the boys seem hellbent on not only not adapting but moving back toward the stone age.

[tx 3 putt 76873]

2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

lol the old downsize via "voluntary attrition" move

all of this, the back fill with $12/hr part time employees 

21 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

I've been somewhat considering moving back to Houston in the near future and UH does a hybrid schedule as well, as does UH-CL (which is a lot bigger than when I last lived there 15 years ago).

uh-downtown 

[South Austin 52454]

23 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is true.  My daughter is on track to graduate UT summa cum laude in 5 calendar years, with the delay due to her frequent touring in a rock band.  She has had a helluva time finding coursework she can do online, but she's made it work.  She "attends" class from hotel rooms and the band van all over North America, and then in person when they're back in Austin.  Kids are extremely adaptable.  UT needs to adapt, but unfortunately, Greg and the boys seem hellbent on not only not adapting but moving back toward the stone age.

When is her band's new album "Greg Abbott And Jay Hartzell Can Lick My Taint" coming out?

[BurdineBandit 815]

22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is true.  My daughter is on track to graduate UT summa cum laude in 5 calendar years, with the delay due to her frequent touring in a rock band.  She has had a helluva time finding coursework she can do online, but she's made it work.  She "attends" class from hotel rooms and the band van all over North America, and then in person when they're back in Austin.  Kids are extremely adaptable.  UT needs to adapt, but unfortunately, Greg and the boys seem hellbent on not only not adapting but moving back toward the stone age.

I think your daughter might be in our department (or at least contacted us about a class). My coworker was telling us a semester or two ago about the cool student she spoke to that was working around a touring schedule. That's awesome, congrats to her and you.

[Pancho 44712]

52 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

I've been somewhat considering moving back to Houston in the near future and UH does a hybrid schedule as well, as does UH-CL (which is a lot bigger than when I last lived there 15 years ago).

Very surprising for Texas as a state.

I know the big issue during the COVID WFH situations was faculty and staff moving out of state and still working in state. (Another big issue was faculty and staff having 2nd full time jobs but that’s a different story)

[jimmyjazz 45889]

On 6/14/2024 at 11:31 AM, South Austin said:

When is her band's new album "Greg Abbott And Jay Hartzell Can Lick My Taint" coming out?

lulz, nice reference to her previous band (Sludge, she wasn't the singer) . . . the current band is way less B-52's/Cramps and way more Nirvana/Black Sabbath, but here's Sludge anyway (they now have a new drummer and are called Farmer's Wife):

 

Edited July 17 by jimmyjazz

[South Austin 52454]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

lulz, nice reference to her previous band (Sludge, she wasn't the singer) . . . the current band is way less B-52's/Cramps and way more Nirvana/Black Sabbath:

 

Ha!  I seem to remember you posted that video a while back.  Your girl is living her best life.

[royiv 9262]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

UT needs to adapt, but unfortunately, Greg and the boys seem hellbent on not only not adapting but moving rolling back toward the stone age.

Fixed

[tx 3 putt 76873]

 

[immamac 42837]

https://www.kut.org/education/2024-06-17/university-of-texas-communications-staff-pro-palestinian-campus-protests-anti-dei-law

Link to the article. Please go read this. 

Brian Davis rumored to be laid off as part of this. What a crock of shit. (Not Brian part the laying people off part) 

[Js1 85286]

They can just use his butt buddy Abbott’s PR team

[BevoAbyss 2058]

UT Austin going full MAGA … SEC SEC SEC out front should have told ya. 

Lulz to anyone who thought it was only about “big boy” football. 

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

Ya dumb bitch

 

[nbmishoid 949]

Hartzell is merely the umpteenth UT Prez who was all about partnering for the money.   Keeps the trains running.

[DigglerontheHoof 21183]

Fuck you, Jay. 

[pacman 7355]

[LCHorn 2615]

18 minutes ago, pacman said:

Did they move it somewhere else on campus?  I recall seeing lines their on Election Day so it’s not like it’s poorly used…

[High Plains Drifter 11032]

On 6/13/2024 at 3:36 PM, Js1 said:

Our board activity would go down 50% if people who claim not to care about something just didn’t post about it 

 

It would also go down a significant percent if people posting from work didn't bitch-post about people working from home

 

[pacman 7355]

20 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Did they move it somewhere else on campus?  I recall seeing lines their on Election Day so it’s not like it’s poorly used…

UT Austin just posted it will be moved to the Student Union.

[Captainant 27637]

12 minutes ago, pacman said:

UT Austin just posted it will be moved to the Student Union.

Call me jaded, but I just don't trust this abbott directed admin to not be attempting voter suppression in some form with this move

[Longhorn_Fan68 33867]

there's 12 days of early voting. someone on campus needs to get a campaign going where they divide the campus up by last name to not overcrowd the polling location. A-C go on day 1, D-F on day 2, etc. if they're going to bottleneck the process then best to plan ahead and be smart about it