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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

I like how easily susceptible Rex is to thinking that the like three dipshit Trumpers he pals around with are representative of the vast majority of Americans. 

I'd like to know how he knows the vast majority of Texas fans, alums, and students support Hartzell fervently.

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2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I like how easily susceptible Rex is to thinking that the like three dipshit Trumpers he pals around with are representative of the vast majority of Americans. 

I bet if you show him some stats it will change his mind. He's notoriously open to acknowledging when he's wrong.

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6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I like how easily susceptible Rex is to thinking that the like three dipshit Trumpers he pals around with are representative of the vast majority of Americans. 

Well, I just voted Kamala and Allred so I don’t pay much attention to what Trumpers say politically. Hartzell used common sense and class with that letter, the latter of which was not on display Saturday night. And yeah, I’d say 90% of the Texas fans in the stands Saturday have a highly favorable Hartzell view. 

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9 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I bet if you show him some stats it will change his mind. He's notoriously open to acknowledging when he's wrong.

Well, I think I did manage to convince him once that Harlan Crow might actually be a nazi. The might be the only time he's ever changed his mind. 

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2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Well, I think I did manage to convince him once that Harlan Crow might actually be a nazi. The might be the only time he's ever changed his mind. 

You did not change my mind. I was swayed that Harlan is one of the dumbest billionaires out there, but that’s the extent of it. 

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On 10/3/2024 at 4:58 PM, 1978horn said:

This and there are people in the office of the president that are very close to Abbott.  My guess is Hartzell is just a puppet/has no backbone.  Most likely why Fenves took a lateral move to Emory, he saw the writing on the wall.

Hartzell is definitely a toady, and likely a true believer. Perry and Abbott have been working a very long time to destroy UT. 

Texas to Emory is not even close to a lateral move though. Emory is a good school, but it's a massive step down for Fenves. No one would do that unless they REALLY wanted out of a toxic environment.  

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1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

What are you talking about? Emory is a great school with a stellar reputation. US News ranks it 24th overall, for example 

I am fully aware Emory is ranked higher and stand by what I said. Emory is a great small school. There's nothing wrong with that, but UT is a small city cranking out elite research in nearly every department. 

Politics aside, most wouldn't leave UT for Emory. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Pods said:

I am fully aware Emory is ranked higher and stand by what I said. Emory is a great small school. There's nothing wrong with that, but UT is a small city cranking out elite research in nearly every department. 

Politics aside, most wouldn't leave UT for Emory. 

 

 

I should add that my response regards upper administration specifically. Faculty primarily care about their specific department and closely related ones. I could easily see faculty jumping to Emory, depending on funding, course load, graduate student support, etc. Private schools can be much more flexible on those. 

 

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2 hours ago, Pods said:

Hartzell is definitely a toady, and likely a true believer. Perry and Abbott have been working a very long time to destroy UT. 

Texas to Emory is not even close to a lateral move though. Emory is a good school, but it's a massive step down for Fenves. No one would do that unless they REALLY wanted out of a toxic environment.  

 

he didn't want to kiss the ring

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45 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Can't wait to see the stellar candidate Abbott forces on the the university.

 

 

abbott has a very specific plan for UT and this move falls into his plans 

50 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Dude hit the portal for SMU. 

 

brnad new trans am !

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27 minutes ago, royiv said:

Two university presidents in a row to serve for five years and then take a job at a much smaller private university.

 

That’s right at the average which is 5-6.

I’d argue since COVID (actually since the event 2016), college presidents average tenure is probably lower than 5 years. 

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There may be nothing to this President turnover at UT, but both of the last two guys were supposedly very competent, I thought. I wonder what is really driving these departures. Money? Maga? Interference? Lack of competence? Surely, someone on this site has some sort of inside insight. Too bad Lobo isn't around.

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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Hartzell got in the motherfucker.

I'd say, "Well...  Bye..." except that I'm 99% we're about to get somebody a whole lot worse.

while i'm with you in spirit, i firmly believe that maybe we should not countenance bad by giving face to a potential worse.

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On 10/22/2024 at 11:22 AM, David Dennison said:

I'd like to know how he knows the vast majority of Texas fans, alums, and students support Hartzell fervently.

I can tell you, for a fact, that Hartzell is widely despised by UT employees. He forced them all back to the office - even the ones who mainly meet with people via Zoom - as part of a deal with Abbott to get a tuition hike. Then, Abbott refused the tuition increase anyway. Good riddance to Hartzell - although I can't imagine his replacement will be any better. 

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