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Posted
1 hour ago, Captainant said:

And that's why @Rex Kramer thinks that Hartzell is doing a great job

Anyone that outwardly shits on free speech, LGBT people, Arab/Muslim people and/or their causes, or anything else that makes his rich friends uncomfortable is A-ok in Rex's coloring book. He totally hates Trump though.

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Posted
37 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not at all.  A university should be a place where students are exposed to a variety of viewpoints, where free speech is not only tolerated but encouraged.  We're already lost.

Then get approval for your protest and etc. 

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Then get approval for your protest and etc. 

Ridiculous, not to mention the reduction in 1A (and other) rights is not wholly related to organized protests.

Regardless, if you think Abbott's henchmen are going to issue permits for (say) anti-Israel protests you're off your fucking rocker.

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Ridiculous, not to mention the reduction in 1A (and other) rights is not wholly related to organized protests.

Regardless, if you think Abbott's henchmen are going to issue permits for (say) anti-Israel protests you're off your fucking rocker.

Causing disruption without approval for your protest is a no go regardless. If you want to peacefully protest with approval then go for it.

Same for idiots who decide to block highways. 

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31 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Anyone that outwardly shits on free speech, LGBT people, Arab/Muslim people and/or their causes, or anything else that makes his rich friends uncomfortable is A-ok in Rex's coloring book. He totally hates Trump though.

Rex cares most about his wallet, and the ONLY reason Rex doesn't like Trump is he's bad for business. Rex is perfectly fine with everything else.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Causing disruption without approval for your protest is a no go regardless. If you want to peacefully protest with approval then go for it.

Same for idiots who decide to block highways. 

What does that have to do with Drag Shows being banned? Amazing how you just default to bootlicking.

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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, elguapo said:

What does that have to do with Drag Shows being banned? Amazing how you just default to bootlicking.

I'm not even conservative you dumb mother fucker. If drag shows are happening at university facilities then sure ban them. But if it's not at university facilities who gives a fuck and the university can't ban those. The policy is saying that you can't have them at say Gregory gym. Drag shows don't impact you and about 99% of the campus so who gives a shit if they're banned or not. Seems fucking pointless to get worked up over some stupid shit like drag shows that are meant to fucking piss off liberals and just be a talking point. The same liberals who can't wrap their heads around the fact that transgender political targeted ads work for the masses. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Causing disruption without approval for your protest is a no go regardless.

Fuck you, fascist.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Seems fucking pointless to get worked up over some stupid shit like drag shows

Holy shit what an idiot you are

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Posted
55 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Causing disruption without approval for your protest is a no go regardless. If you want to peacefully protest with approval then go for it.

Same for idiots who decide to block highways. 

Go read one book that talks about civil disobedience and its impact on civil rights in this country. Just one. Holy shit please educate yourself before spouting off takes like that what the fuck.

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Posted
3 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

The whole UT system is following aggy. This is a shitty development.

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/03/18/university-texas-system-drag-show-ban/

If the proposed SB 37 I posted about Saturday in the Destruction of Public Education thread gets passed in the lege, banning drag shows at UT and elsewhere is going to seem tame. They're going after curricula, profs, etc in that one.

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Posted
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Then get approval for your protest and etc. 

"You may have opinions and voice them, if the State approves of them."

58 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Causing disruption without approval for your protest is a no go regardless. If you want to peacefully protest with approval then go for it.

Same for idiots who decide to block highways. 

"Nevermind that the State is openly regulating and banning peaceful speech and opinions."

55 minutes ago, elguapo said:

What does that have to do with Drag Shows being banned? Amazing how you just default to bootlicking.

"It's not bootlicking if they ban opinions I disagree with.  That's just good government."

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I'm not even conservative you dumb mother fucker. If drag shows are happening at university facilities then sure ban them. But if it's not at university facilities who gives a fuck and the university can't ban those. The policy is saying that you can't have them at say Gregory gym. Drag shows don't impact you and about 99% of the campus so who gives a shit if they're banned or not. Seems fucking pointless to get worked up over some stupid shit like drag shows that are meant to fucking piss off liberals and just be a talking point. The same liberals who can't wrap their heads around the fact that transgender political targeted ads work for the masses. 

Drag shows are a good time and drag queens are some of the best people out there. I give a shit if they’re banned because it’s discriminatory and a violation of the first amendment.

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Posted
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I'm not even conservative you dumb mother fucker. If drag shows are happening at university facilities then sure ban them. But if it's not at university facilities who gives a fuck and the university can't ban those. The policy is saying that you can't have them at say Gregory gym. Drag shows don't impact you and about 99% of the campus so who gives a shit if they're banned or not. Seems fucking pointless to get worked up over some stupid shit like drag shows that are meant to fucking piss off liberals and just be a talking point. The same liberals who can't wrap their heads around the fact that transgender political targeted ads work for the masses. 

Do you smell toast?

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I'm not even conservative you dumb mother fucker. If drag shows are happening at university facilities then sure ban them. But if it's not at university facilities who gives a fuck and the university can't ban those. The policy is saying that you can't have them at say Gregory gym. Drag shows don't impact you and about 99% of the campus so who gives a shit if they're banned or not. Seems fucking pointless to get worked up over some stupid shit like drag shows that are meant to fucking piss off liberals and just be a talking point. The same liberals who can't wrap their heads around the fact that transgender political targeted ads work for the masses. 

It seems even more pointless to ban them.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

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If this dumb mother fucker had use of anything below the waist, he's the kind of Republican who'd be the first one to get a boner at a drag show.

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Posted
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Drag shows don't impact you

There’s this thing called empathy. You should maybe get you some

and if you can’t manage that maybe think about the fact that their ability to take away rights of others means they have the ability to take yours. And eventually they will get around to you

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Posted
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Seems fucking pointless to get worked up over some stupid shit like drag shows that are meant to fucking piss off liberals and just be a talking point.

I missed this gem -- drag shows are meant to piss off liberals?

Posted
Just now, David Dennison said:

Using BO&W's logic, if drag shows don't impact you, what's the point in banning them in the first place?

Maybe when democrats control all 3 phases again they'll actually put forth legislation to protect the people they feel so strongly about protecting. 

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Maybe when democrats control all 3 phases again they'll actually put forth legislation to protect the people they feel so strongly about protecting. 

Why?  Sex (and sexuality/gender) is protected class.  That's why it's discriminatory to take action against someone because of their sexuality/gender (among many other things).

Did you ever take a fucking civics class?

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Maybe when democrats control all 3 phases again they'll actually put forth legislation to protect the people they feel so strongly about protecting. 

You didn't answer the question.

Why ban drag shows if they don't affect anyone?

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Why?  Sex (and sexuality/gender) is protected class.  That's why it's discriminatory to take action against someone because of their sexuality/gender (among many other things).

Did you ever take a fucking civics class?

Doesn't seem very protected now does it? 

Just now, David Dennison said:

You didn't answer the question.

Why ban drag shows if they don't affect anyone?

Why care if they're banned if they don't affect anyone? Instead of a drag show on campus just go to one on w 5th or wherever the fuck they have them. 

Posted
1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Why care if they're banned if they don't affect anyone? Instead of a drag show on campus just go to one on w 5th or wherever the fuck they have them. 

You still didn't answer the question. Why ban them at all?

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Posted
Just now, David Dennison said:

You still didn't answer the question. Why ban them at all?

Because it's just like in the election cycle the ads targeting transgender, they work for the masses. So conservatives are using drag shows to win points with the masses. Seems pretty simple. 

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Posted
Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Because it's just like in the election cycle the ads targeting transgender, they work for the masses. So conservatives are using drag shows to win points with the masses. Seems pretty simple. 

Would you be OK with conservatives banning mixed race marriages to win points with the masses?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Nice goal post movement.

How so?  You seem to be fine with banning things that a lot of people find icky.  Why not mixed race or gay marriage?  Why not the rights of minorities to vote?  Hell, the rights of women to vote?

I'd say you're smarter than this, but I'm not so sure.

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You didn't answer the question.

Interfacial marriage is right around mid 90s approval % so that doesn't appeal to the masses and would hurt them in doing so where as transgender sits roughly at about low 30s in approval % with bulk of that coming from one party.

 

 

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Interfacial marriage is right around mid 90s approval % so that doesn't appeal to the masses and would hurt them in doing so where as transgender sits roughly at about low 30s in approval %

So we should determine whether to protect marginalized groups based on how well they poll?

What a country.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Nice goal post movement.

Shitting on people for points in violation of the constitution is shitting on people for points in violation of the constitution.

If the constitution doesn't protect one disfavored minority, it doesn't protect any.

I would stand pretty fucking firm for the right of the student MAGA club to hold a demonstration demanding the deportation of everyone who wasn't at least 3rd generation American-born.   Not just even though I find their position abhorrent, but BECAUSE I find their position abhorrent.  "Public opinion" on a particular expression has zero to do with whether it is subject to constitutional protection.

But don't worry, I'm a grown-ass man, and I fully realize that we live in a post-Constitutional Republic, and folks like you are just fine with it (your acquiescence is the driving reason WHY we live in a post-Constitutional Republic).  I just think it's shitty, and I think that you're shitty.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

So we should determine whether to protect marginalized groups based on how well they poll?

What a country.

They're going for cheap appeal to the masses for points....so yeah. In the big post election discussion thread it was a conclusion that democrats need to quit being pussies, take the gloves off, and start fighting fire with fire. Quit fucking being victims about everything and step the fuck up. Republicans are in a win at all cost mentality, be damned of the way things are with regards to constitution. 

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Posted
Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

They're going for cheap appeal to the masses for points....so yeah. In the big post election discussion thread it was a conclusion that democrats need to quit being pussies, take the gloves off, and start fighting fire with fire. Quit fucking being victims about everything and step the fuck up.

Historically speaking, what happens when the rule of law no longer works?

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Posted
31 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Maybe when democrats control all 3 phases again they'll actually put forth legislation to protect the people they feel so strongly about protecting. 

You mean something like the first amendment?

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Posted
4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Some of yall way overblow the shift.

This bears repeating: https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-bill-increase-oversight-universities-222919953.html

State lawmakers introduced on Thursday sweeping legislation that would create a new office to police higher education institutions, currently under fire by conservatives who claim they are not complying with a statewide ban on diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

The bill also proposes giving universities’ governing boards more power to hire administrators and oversee curricula. The boards have traditionally allowed the institutions they oversee to manage some of those affairs in the spirit of respecting their academic independence.

Senate Bill 37 would create an Office of Excellence in Higher Education within the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. The new office, led by a governor appointee, would be responsible for investigating claims that universities and colleges have broken state laws or their own policies.

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Posted
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Interfacial marriage is right around mid 90s approval % so that doesn't appeal to the masses and would hurt them in doing so where as transgender sits roughly at about low 30s in approval % with bulk of that coming from one party.

 

 

1. You do know that trans /= drag, right? It seems like you don’t.

2. It seems to me that as a freedom loving American we should hold firm on protecting the rights of all of us and not base policy for constitutionally protected rights based on a poll of popular opinion.

Posted
1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

He did a great job. lol at calling UT a fascist shithole. 

There you go again, putting words in my mouth that I didn't say or type. But UT is certainly making moves that would not be out of place in a fascist society. 



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