Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 2/9/2019 at 11:23 AM, Pam Cummings said:

Obsessed. 

 

Please quit acting like you know things. You're obviously a dumbass.

Yeah show me her comments that show she isn't for major tax increases, wants a new deal type green plan that could bankrupt our economy, and destroy our infrastructure (and would end racism as the result ).  She doesn't even fathom the cost that it would take to even begin implementing those green plan ideas.  

She contradicts herself in several video sound bites about what she wants, and what her plans are.  Come back when she says something that actually feasible in the here and now.

Show me her credentials for even discussing a plan so vastly game changing for a nation to undertake . Where did the get the experience to propose changes that have no substance other than her wide eyed hopes and dreams for a socialist utopia.  

She's a proponent for a more socialist form of gov't.  I admire her egalitarian concepts, but they aren't backed up with anything approaching a realistic plan yet.  When does that happen ?  Year 2 of her first term ?

Edited February 11, 2019 by Onboard 2.0

[Pam Cummings 9662]

4 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yeah show me her comments that show she isn't for major tax increases, wants a new deal type green plan that would bankrupt our economy and destroy our infrastructure.  and would end racism as the result .  she doesn't;t even fathom the cost that it would take to even begin importing those green plan ideas.  

She contradicts herself in several video sound bites about what she want  and what her plans are.  Come back when she says something that actually feasible in the here and now.

 

Show me her credentials for even discussing a plan so vastly game changing for a nation to undertake . Where did the get the experience to propose changes that have no substance other than her wide eyed hopes and dreams for a socialist utopia.  

She's a proponent for a more socialist form of gov't.  I admire her egalitarian concepts, but they aren't backed up with anything approaching a realistic plan yet.  When does that happen ?  Year 2 of her first term ?

You see, the difference between me and you is, i am just smart enough to know that i'm ignorant of these issues and know that i will just look like an idiot trying to spout off about them.

I just tend to like people who try to propose new ideas, seem to care about the middle class, are eager to solve problems that we will face in this century, and don't use hateful and divisive language.

 

You, not so much. But please, tell me more about what Fox and Friends thinks of AOC.

Edited February 9, 2019 by Pam Cummings

[Asithappens 974]

3 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

She contradicts herself in several video sound bites about what she want  and what her plans are.  

Is that now the standard by which we judge politicians?

Or is that just a selective application to this particular politician?

 

[jimmyjazz 46130]

9 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Is that now the standard by which we judge politicians?

Or is that just a selective application to this particular politician?

 

These are clearly the latest talking points as distributed in the newsletter.  It's the new rage -- "she contradicts herself".  Seriously, this particular angle took off about 2 days ago.

Y'all are such pathetic sheep.  Onboard, I'm talking to you.  Grow a pair and start thinking for yourself.  The standards to which you are holding AOC are wholly distinct from those to which you hold any legislator, freshman OR veteran, when they have an (R) next to their name.

She's getting the nation talking.  That's the important thing.  She may not get reelected -- I don't care. 

Dinosaurs like you WILL get left behind, and good riddance, but for fuck's sake try to actually study a little bit and learn what's happening. 

Edited February 9, 2019 by jimmyjazz

[Gengs1 2583]

I a man sure no republican like trump has ever contradicted himself, I am sure you possibly just gloss over that and focus on 1 congresswoman

 

[bolverk 29717]

23 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

1 hour ago, horncyclist said:

He hasn't even recoverd from the shutdown fallout. You're a moron:



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Rasmussen has him over 50% for the first time in his Presidency this week. Don’t trust them, read the different polls from his SOTU which all were close to 60% approval rating. If you don’t think this was a bad week for the Dems and a good one for the Party then you are blind my friend.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

21 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Is that now the standard by which we judge politicians?

Or is that just a selective application to this particular politician?

 

No, definitely not but contradicting oneself isn't the same as just saying things that are beyond the realm of current feasibility or your knowledge about any of them.   And yeah trump's Mexico will pay for the wall falls squarely into that realm along with lots of other shit he's said.  She's fair game now that she's spouting g off her desired policy.

 I'm not attacking her unfairly. I'm looking at her sound bites and she puts forward plans that just don't meet the sanity check for feasibility. My biggest issue with her is she is a socialist leaning elected offical.  I don't believe her brand is a feasible track for the US so I'm gonna call her out on it.  Oh the hor-ror.......

Edited February 9, 2019 by Onboard 2.0

[RomaVicta 30018]

2 hours ago, Message Board User said:

 

Look at her! Look at her! Hate her! Look at how bad she is! She danced! She's not always right!

Okay, you have my attention, you obsessive weirdo. She's now news.

No obsessive! No obsessive! You're the obsessive!

 

[thrillhammer 684]

25 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Is that now the standard by which we judge politicians?

Or is that just a selective application to this particular politician?

 

onboard will never be on board.

[Message Board User 12396]

18 minutes ago, Gengs1 said:

I a man sure no republican like trump has ever contradicted himself, I am sure you possibly just gloss over that and focus on 1 congresswoman

 

Trump is a truth-stretching imbecile who is unfit for his office.

AOC is a truth-stretching imbecile who is unfit for her office.

These two statements are not mutually exclusive.

Edited February 9, 2019 by Message Board User

[RomaVicta 30018]

1 hour ago, Message Board User said:

 

Context would be nice. Is intervention the same thing as takeover? What is(are) the subject(s)? Who is Tom Elliot and why is he following her every word? 

[RomaVicta 30018]

13 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Rasmussen has him over 50% for the first time in his Presidency this week. Don’t trust them, read the different polls from his SOTU which all were close to 60% approval rating. If you don’t think this was a bad week for the Dems and a good one for the Party then you are blind my friend.

[Pam Cummings 9662]

30 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Rasmussen has him over 50% for the first time in his Presidency this week. Don’t trust them, read the different polls from his SOTU which all were close to 60% approval rating. If you don’t think this was a bad week for the Dems and a good one for the Party then you are blind my friend.

Jesus fucking christ.

 

We are not Russia. Fuck off with your party garbage you fucking asshole.

[horncyclist 1391]

Rasmussen has him over 50% for the first time in his Presidency this week. Don’t trust them, read the different polls from his SOTU which all were close to 60% approval rating. If you don’t think this was a bad week for the Dems and a good one for the Party then you are blind my friend.

You're not a smart man, are you? It must be painful to go through life that dumb.

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[Guest Lobo]

7 minutes ago, Skinny Tie said:

ShE iS GoNnA bAnKrUpT tHe EcOnOmY!!!

what does that even mean?

I think it’s when you somehow owe money to Sears.  

[bolverk 29717]

40 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

No, definitely not but contradicting oneself isn't the same as just saying things that are beyond the realm of current feasibility or your knowledge about any of them.

 

I'd argue that her ideal of 100% renewable energy isn't technically feasible (we do have the means) but they might not be politically feasible, given the inertia of the public and the special interests of specific groups like oil-dependent communities and companies, as well as their representatives.

And, I think, that distinction matters. If we, as a nation, set a national goal to wean ourselves off of fossil fuels (disregarding the merit for a moment), what are the steps that would be necessary to get those communities, companies, and politicians "on board?" Do we have something equal to, or greater, tangible value to offer them that will affect their political will to support this cause?

Personally, I think making the case on a moral basis is a cake-walk and is entirely feasible on a technical/scientific basis. What needs to be demonstrated by offering present-day and future value hasn't been demonstrably successful other than (maybe) nibbling at the edges.

Therefore, we should be considering ways to (a) convince those groups through financial incentives, (b)  guilt them to prompt rapid changes, or (c) put them out of business by shutting them down or regulating them to death.

We, through our representatives, will have to decide how to handle it.

[Zonahorn 8079]

20 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Let me know when that has ever happened other than WWII. As humans, it’s much easier for us to band together and kill a common enemy than work together putting aside self interest to work on a problem without an immediate benefit. That’s why the hope should be technological advancement that benefits the world financially through the adoption of technology that’ll mitigate the causes of climate change. 

WWI

[Message Board User 12396]

48 minutes ago, Skinny Tie said:

ShE iS GoNnA bAnKrUpT tHe EcOnOmY!!!

what does that even mean?

This is probably the best argument in favor of AOC's nonsense - we spend way more than we have anyway and nobody seems to care about the debt anymore.

 

[Guest Lobo]

Great, Trump is gonna take credit for accidentally inventing/endorsing Modern Monetary Theory.  Super job assholes.  The dumbest fucking economic doctrine to come along in decades has created the strangest of bedfellows.  This is like anti-vax homeschool weirdos.  You got the super liberal who don't want to be beaten down by the corporations and then the ultra nutjob righties who think debt and disease are illusions perpetrated by the devil and dastardly alliteration.  

[Skyline 325]

6 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not sure why people are so mad about the new green deal.  From what I can tell it’s a list of very high level goals that could never be implemented in that basic form.  And i don’t think it’s intended to be the actual laws itself.  What are the goals?

• Reduce pollution
• improve energy efficiency
• encourage better paying jobs
• reduce income inequality
• improved access to healthcare

Is someone one actually opposed to these ideals!  Sure any law could be horrible (or effective) in terms of achieving these goals but the goals themselves aren’t bad.

my guess is that nonbinding resolutions like this are raised frequently in Congress especially by the true believers.  I assume this one got attention due to the left and rights over fascination with AOC.

Exactly this. The Dems are outlining their clear goals and that's all this is meant to be. A conversation starter, since the Trump admin will be discussing none of the issues related to climate change. There's no hope of passing something like this with the current admin. 

If the Dems actually started introducing legislation and taxes, it would give the GOP an early start on their talking points and make the GND dead before it every really gets started. 

[troph 24906]

Nah not at all, I have actual pussy to get, you on the other hand, need her like the flower needs the sun.

Your sexual schtick re AOC is one of the most disgusting things on this site. Seriously stop.

[workswithseed 2111]

9 hours ago, Atx71 said:

 

Dont tell us. Roll over and tell  Ben. 

 

 

Maybe she'll run train on you one day, but remember that everyday should be international womens day.

[Brian Fantana 6690]

31 minutes ago, troph said:

Your sexual schtick re AOC is one of the most disgusting things on this site. Seriously stop.

I've started just reporting the posts. It's so creepy. 

[Horn Dog 9931]

On 2/8/2019 at 11:29 AM, Foosters said:

Sorry, didn't you hear? We are not ethnically homogeneous so single payer wont work.

As a doctor I can attest that this is 100% true.  A white person comes in with a medical condition, it will cost X dollars to treat.  A brown person with the exact same condition will cost 2-3x dollars to treat.  We even have a term for it at the hospital, “Code Brownie”.  (Not to be confused with Code Brown which means something else entirely).  We can not figure out why...maybe its the extra costs for burritos or fried chicken and watermelon, but this is REAL and is the reason single payer will never work in the US.  If you don’t believe it, look at Medicare. The data CLEARLY shows that white people are cheaper to treat...and...if the data doesn’t show that, well then just ignore that data and believe it anyway.

[Dahobbs 17681]

3 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

 I'm not attacking her unfairly. I'm looking at her sound bites and she puts forward plans that just don't meet the sanity check for feasibility. My biggest issue with her is she is a socialist leaning elected offical.  I don't believe her brand is a feasible track for the US so I'm gonna call her out on it.  Oh the hor-ror.......

Guys, I am not attacking her unfairly. I am reviewing cherry picked sound bites picked out by right wing media and agreeing with them when they tell me the sound bites are bad. What is unfair about that? Sure, I can't point to any real contradictions or concrete problems with the proposals she has actually made. But, I can certainly criticize the proposals I have imagined her to make and the legislation I have imagined she could propose. All of this is fair and reasonable, and not at all a sign that I am dangerously unhinged. 

Edited February 9, 2019 by Dahobbs

[Longhorn_Fan68 33899]

Srsly

[TexArcher 38066]

3 hours ago, Skinny Tie said:

ShE iS GoNnA bAnKrUpT tHe EcOnOmY!!!

Meanwhile, Trump is running the largest deficit in our history.

And now he's restarting a nuclear arms race.

But don't worry, since we need all of our money for military and walls, we'll just stop spending on education, the arts, and social programs.

This is how military dictatorships are built.  And you "conservatives" are lapping this shit up.  History will not be kind to any of you.

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

BANKRUPT THE ECONOMY!

DEATH PANELS!

SETH RICH!

VINCE FOSTER!

PRESIDENT'S A MUSLIM!

AND HIS PASTOR HATES AMERICA!

ALSO NOT A CITIZEN!

PIZZAGATE!

JADE HELM!

URANIUM ONE!

DEPT OF AG RACIST TO WHITE FARMERS!

3 MILLION ILLEGAL VOTERS!

CARAVANS!

CRISIS ACTORS!

BOOGA BOOGA!!!!!!

[Bama Chick 28596]

Dude you forgot the tan suit, the coffee cup salute, the fancy mustard, the black power fist bump, the feet on the desk.

Ya know - STUFF THAT DIMINISHED THE SANCTITY OF THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Cajun 11740]

6 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Look at her! Look at her! Hate her! Look at how bad she is! She danced! She's not always right!

Okay, you have my attention, you obsessive weirdo. She's now news.

No obsessive! No obsessive! You're the obsessive!

 

Interesting post on a 105 page Surly AOC topic.

Just the detractors and haters keeping it growin'.

Yeah, that's it.

 

[RomaVicta 30018]

You missed the point. I wouldn't know a thing about Ocasio-Cortez if the rabid right hadn't force fed her to me. They chose her as a battleground for national debate largely based on personal attacks and distortions of what she is. I enter the debate for that reason. I'll take her over any GOP you can name and probably a lot of Dems.

You don't hold up an example and then call the person responding to the example responsible for the example.

[Cajun 11740]

Yeah, you're right Roma.

It's the right forcing AOC down your throat.

All the left adoration and fawning is just a mirrage which has come about from the heat generated by righties hitting their keyboards.

[zork 629]

9 hours ago, Message Board User said:

 

wtf.gif 

anyone care to explain that?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[TexArcher 38066]

I wonder if Beto would be getting the same vitriole from Fox and others if he'd won last fall.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I wonder if Hillary's getting jelly?

[EMAWesome 101]

9 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

  she doesn't;t even fathom the cost that it would take to even begin importing those green plan ideas.  

 

She is no different than 75% of the posters in this thread.

[zork 629]

 

[Gengs1 2583]

I think the Fox News and republicans have found their new boogey person who they can direct their new hate on, you can see it here going after a first year congress woman of how she is wrong but don’t say saying all the shit trump has said the last 3 years   

[David Dennison 18946]

12 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Rasmussen has him over 50% for the first time in his Presidency this week. Don’t trust them, read the different polls from his SOTU which all were close to 60% approval rating. If you don’t think this was a bad week for the Dems and a good one for the Party then you are blind my friend.

His numbers are garbage.

[LowPressure 73]

The left pushes her...and the right can't ignore her because the left has made her such a 'thing'.

 

She's got a top notch social media team and leftist groups behind her...she didn't just go from idiot bartender to political phenom on her own.  A lot of work & money was thrown at slapping lipstick on this dip shit. 

 

As a conservative I'm just laughing.  Yes, it's concerning and infuriating that there are this many morons out there.  But the reality is she's going to screw up badly, again and again and again.  Even the leftist MSM can't cover it up forever, it's just a matter of time.  And she's not going to get any smarter. 

[David Dennison 18946]

1 minute ago, LowPressure said:

The left pushes her...and the right can't ignore her because the left has made her such a 'thing'.

 

She's got a top notch social media team and leftist groups behind her...she didn't just go from idiot bartender to political phenom on her own.  A lot of work & money was thrown at slapping lipstick on this dip shit. 

 

As a conservative I'm just laughing.  Yes, it's concerning and infuriating that there are this many morons out there.  But the reality is she's going to screw up badly, again and again and again.  Even the leftist MSM can't cover it up forever, it's just a matter of time.  And she's not going to get any smarter. 

Focus on the backbencher while Nancy Pelosi eviscerates you.

Smart.

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

I really don't care about AOC but seems Fox News is obsessed with her for some reason.

[jimmyjazz 46130]

I find it interesting that AOC has become the political lightning rod du juor.  It's almost as if there is a concerted effort to distract the public from more nefarious activities.

[Cajun 11740]

Has she been inaugurated and started signing bills yet?

That's the real question here.

Edited February 10, 2019 by Cajun

[Gengs1 2583]

24 minutes ago, LowPressure said:

The left pushes her...and the right can't ignore her because the left has made her such a 'thing'.

 

She's got a top notch social media team and leftist groups behind her...she didn't just go from idiot bartender to political phenom on her own.  A lot of work & money was thrown at slapping lipstick on this dip shit. 

 

As a conservative I'm just laughing.  Yes, it's concerning and infuriating that there are this many morons out there.  But the reality is she's going to screw up badly, again and again and again.  Even the leftist MSM can't cover it up forever, it's just a matter of time.  And she's not going to get any smarter. 

Why is she on Fox News so much?

She using the trump plan and it’s working.

they need a boogie person and it’s her.

 

Please explain the conservative policies this administration is doing?

reducing the debt? Hahahaha

 

Edited February 10, 2019 by Gengs1

[David Dennison 18946]

12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I find it interesting that AOC has become the political lightning rod du juor.  It's almost as if there is a concerted effort to distract the public from more nefarious activities.

What's amazing is that they think it will work.