Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[seven 1368]

It's the end of new york, they had a good run 

[Underdog 28773]

I seen the lights go out on broadway...

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Oh good heavens, how will NYC survive?

Go put yer dick back in your PJ's.  What a singularly stupid ass thing to say.  

You should go to the county/district that would have benefitted from those jobs, and yell that from every street corner.  

Now it doesn't matter what she says, she's just peaches...... 

[Bozo_Casanova 26549]

16 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Oh good heavens, how will NYC survive?

I read on shaggy that de Blasio was going to ruin NYCs economy and bring crime back. Bullet dodged, or still DOOMED?

Edited February 18, 2019 by Bozo_Casanova

[Js1 85570]

3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I read on shaggy that de Blasio was going to ruin NYCs economy and bring crime back. Bullet dodged, or still DOOMED?

Was that another Swam/Oatmeal special? 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

12 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

And this would have been a 3-day vacation on the old site:

 

I didn’t mean that he should off himself. I told him he is out of his element with respect to the discussion 

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Most people don’t give a flying fuck about what she said regarding Amazon. 

Nah, even CNN and MSNBC roasted her on that Amazon gaffe.  To those here roasting her but not criticizing Trump, that’s highly hypocritical but that’s not me.  

[jimmyjazz 46128]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that AOC's understanding of government function, policy nuance, and economics is probably somewhere around the median for the House, and yet for some reason our resident right-wing trolls just can't seem to give a shit about the dozens upon dozens of functional idiots also sitting in that chamber.  Weird.

[Brian Fantana 6690]

4 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Go put yer dick back in your PJ's.  What a singularly stupid ass thing to say.  

You should go to the county/district that would have benefitted from those jobs, and yell that from every street corner.  

Now it doesn't matter what she says, she's just peaches...... 

And here we are, incensed and irate about a congresswoman costing a city 25k jobs that didn't actually exist yet by not bending the knee before a company demanding nearly $3 billion dollars in tax breaks from the state, and has that paid $0 in taxes on $16.8 billion dollars in profits over the past two years. It's awfully weird that we are also strangely radio silent about the real, actual, existing jobs that Trump's tariffs have already cost tens of thousands of people in this country.

[immortal13 4059]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

You're a god damn piece of shit liar spreading fake news.  You should be sent to the gulag since your orange god doesn't like people who spread fake news.

Her boyfriend isn't on staff.  He has an email address to have access to her official House calendar.  

But I'm sure the Chief Administrative Officer is just a big libtard protecting her.

What was the lie?

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that AOC's understanding of government function, policy nuance, and economics is probably somewhere around the median for the House, and yet for some reason our resident right-wing trolls just can't seem to give a shit about the dozens upon dozens of functional idiots also sitting in that chamber.  Weird.

The gymnastics you white knights go to is amusing. She just cost a lot of people jobs in her home state. There's nothing you can say to defend her comments that sparked that issue.  

As far as having the same level of understanding as her fellow Congress members, who knows.  That isn't the issue. The issue is she opened her mouth, and spouted off her typical blue sky, no reality based wishes, and it cost her state, and fellow citizens lots of long term jobs. Opening her mouth when she doesn't know what the hell she was saying is the height of ignorance. 

[immortal13 4059]

She's a moron

[achooloco 1084]

24 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Go put yer dick back in your PJ's.  What a singularly stupid ass thing to say.  

You should go to the county/district that would have benefitted from those jobs, and yell that from every street corner.  

Now it doesn't matter what she says, she's just peaches...... 

i'm in that district, fuck amazon. next?

[Brian Fantana 6690]

2 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

What was the lie?

"Adding her boy toy to staff" I know your IQ equals your shoe size but you can obviously read

[immortal13 4059]

1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

"Adding her boy toy to staff" I know your IQ equals your shoe size but you can obviously read

Obviously, shithead. I just don't keep up with some ignorant child politician like you do

[Brian Fantana 6690]

Just now, immortal13 said:

Obviously, shithead. I just don't keep up with some ignorant child politician like you do

Yeah just like every other dumb fuck that doesn't know how to use google for 3 seconds to look something up

[immortal13 4059]

Yeah that's it, bruh. You got me

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

3 minutes ago, achooloco said:

i'm in that district, fuck amazon. next?

Nice you have a job I'm guessing. 

[Brian Fantana 6690]

This fake outrage over nonexistent jobs is so cute. I'm glad we all have something to do today.

[GHOSTUSER 361]

33 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I read on shaggy that de Blasio was going to ruin NYCs economy and bring crime back. Bullet dodged, or still DOOMED?

Sorry to break it you bud:

”In New York City, the number of homeless people has grown by over 13 percent during the past few years of the de Blasio administration. In a recently released report, groping and unwanted touching crimes by homeless people riding the subway have seen an 8 percent increase. Assaults by the homeless are up 10 percent.”

https://www.iheart.com/content/2018-03-28-crimes-committed-by-homeless-people-on-the-rise-in-new-york-city/

[jimmyjazz 46128]

5 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

The gymnastics you white knights go to is amusing. She just cost a lot of people jobs in her home state. There's nothing you can say to defend her comments that sparked that issue.

I'm sorry, what?  How did AOC cost anyone a job?  She's not even the rep for that district, and if you think a monolith like Amazon pulls a 180 because of pushback by a single non-representative Congressperson you're even more out of touch than I thought.

Amazon came right out and said they were pulling out because of a lack of cooperation with STATE and LOCAL politicians:

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"For Amazon, the commitment to build a new headquarters requires positive, collaborative relationships with state and local elected officials who will be supportive over the long-term," the company said. "While polls show that 70% of New Yorkers support our plans and investment, a number of state and local politicians have made it clear that they oppose our presence and will not work with us to build the type of relationships that are required to go forward with the project."

 

Furthermore, I urge you to go read surly threads about Austin's inclusion in the list of finalists for Amazon's HQ2.  The vast majority of locals posting on that thread DID NOT WANT Amazon to open up shop here.  It's a common theme . . . even in Queens, NY.  Did a majority want Amazon, as the company claims?  I don't know.  I do know there are a lot of good reasons NOT to offer tax incentives to lure large companies.  There are also good reasons to do so.  As it turns out, not everyone agrees.  

One thing is for sure -- other than pitching in to help develop the grass-roots pushback in Long Island City, which is absolutely within her rights, AOC had jack shit to do with this decision, as she has no authority there.  Amazon clearly felt local sentiment wasn't positive enough to keep going, so they pulled out.  It happens.

You really stun me at times.  I mean, you completely struck out here.  But I get it . . . .she's a woman, and she's brown, and you're . . . Onboard.  Carry on.

[GSU&UT 1798]

I'm still struggling to understand how her criticism of the Amazon deal is supposedly singular yet many here admitted it wasn't just her who pushed back. For all the "learn some economics woman!" misogynistic takes, here are fucking economists saying these subsidies are awful. So who knows more about the economics behind a deal, you dipshits or actual economists?

 

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-estate/economists-skeptical-amazon-size-tax-breaks

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/business/economy/amazon-hq2-va-long-island-city-incentives.html

 

edit: This is why Amazon started getting cold feet, it wasn't AOC.

https://abc7ny.com/politics/nyc-council-holds-contentious-hearing-on-amazon-headquarters/4885470/

Edited February 18, 2019 by GSU&UT

[RomaVicta 30016]

1 hour ago, trauma babe said:

Please, I'm begging all of you, either put ORC on ignore like I have or stop quoting him. Your own posting and my own browsing experience here will be improved.

 

1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

Seriously, he's one of the worst

 

1 hour ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

lol so much anger.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Brian Fantana said:

This fake outrage over nonexistent jobs is so cute. I'm glad we all have something to do today.

It’s so bizarre that a rookie house representative is credited with preventing the richest man on earth from installing a headquarters in the already richest and liberal city in the United States.  And they’re spinning it as a bad thing.

It sounds like something a Republican would get massive amounts of credit for accomplishing.

Those Amazon jobs aren’t lost.  They’re just moving elsewhere, hopefully to a community that could benefit more than NYC.

[Js1 85570]

First time I've ever seen conservatives pissed bc something did not happen to NYC?  Since when do they care about NYC unless its conservative outrage. 

Edited February 18, 2019 by Js1

[Bozo_Casanova 26549]

Sorry to break it you bud:
”In New York City, the number of homeless people has grown by over 13 percent during the past few years of the de Blasio administration. In a recently released report, groping and unwanted touching crimes by homeless people riding the subway have seen an 8 percent increase. Assaults by the homeless are up 10 percent.”
https://www.iheart.com/content/2018-03-28-crimes-committed-by-homeless-people-on-the-rise-in-new-york-city/

OMG THE WHEELS ARE OFF PEOPLE

[GHOSTUSER 361]

6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

OMG THE WHEELS ARE OFF PEOPLE

That’s your response when I cite stats that crime and homelessness have increased by 10%+ under Comrade de Blasio?That’s not a significant change from the Giuliani and Bloomberg eras? I know what the fuck I’m talking about since I used to live there and have visited several times since. I know your pride is hurt. It will be ok, don’t have to lash out when I owned you by citing facts. It happens.

Edited February 18, 2019 by Iconoclast Texan

[jimmyjazz 46128]

12 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

People are making fun of her for her sophomoric insight and "We are gonna use that $3bn for socialist stuff" when that 3bn doesn't exist without Amazon, because it was modeled with input from the value and revenue that Amazon would create and bring respectively. That is why people, on both sides, are rightfully making fun of her. It has zero to do with her opposition, which is legitimate as many have noted. It seems people are confused as to why she's a nincompoop, as opposed to whether she is or isn't one, which is progress. 

On the same fucking page:

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The gymnastics you white knights go to is amusing. She just cost a lot of people jobs in her home state. There's nothing you can say to defend her comments that sparked that issue.

 

[Brian Fantana 6690]

8 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

That’s your response when I cite stats that crime and homelessness have increased under Comrade de Blasio. It will be ok, don’t have to lash out when I owned you by citing facts. It happens.

Do I really have to point out to you that your data is cherry picked, focusing on a single minority group, and that violent crime in NYC is currently at a historic low? Like for real you're not fucking fooling anyone.

Edited February 18, 2019 by Brian Fantana

[Brian Fantana 6690]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

On the same fucking page:

 

Just put it on ignore. trauma babe is right, it's nothing but a troll account.

[wildcat09 29381]

46 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

And here we are, incensed and irate about a congresswoman costing a city 25k jobs that didn't actually exist yet by not bending the knee before a company demanding nearly $3 billion dollars in tax breaks from the state, and has that paid $0 in taxes on $16.8 billion dollars in profits over the past two years. It's awfully weird that we are also strangely radio silent about the real, actual, existing jobs that Trump's tariffs have already cost tens of thousands of people in this country.

It's not like the Foxconn example of how that shit doesn't work quite like the business demanding the tax breaks promises is extremely recent or anything. 

Edited February 18, 2019 by wildcat09

[GSU&UT 1798]

7 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

Who said that since you put it in quotes?  I knew this would turn into you are criticizing a woman you sexist pig!

Where's your criticism for Paul Ryan who has done much more economic damage to this country than AOC could ever dream of?

[Brian Fantana 6690]

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Feels good, man.

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

It's not like the Foxconn example of how that shit doesn't work quite like the business demanding the tax breaks promises is extremely recent or anything. 

It's just amusing to watch him dance around the point and not address the obvious inconsistencies in his argument.

[wildcat09 29381]

13 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

That’s your response when I cite stats that crime and homelessness have increased by 10%+ under Comrade de Blasio?That’s not a significant change from the Giuliani and Bloomberg eras? I know what the fuck I’m talking about since I used to live there and have visited several times since. I know your pride is hurt. It will be ok, don’t have to lash out when I owned you by citing facts. It happens.

Obviously NYC needs to bring back stop and frisk to stop this explosion in the homeless population.

[Bozo_Casanova 26549]

That’s your response when I cite stats that crime and homelessness have increased by 10%+ under Comrade de Blasio?That’s not a significant change from the Giuliani and Bloomberg eras? I know what the fuck I’m talking about since I used to live there and have visited several times since. I know your pride is hurt. It will be ok, don’t have to lash out when I owned you by citing facts. It happens.

You haven’t cited “facts”. You cited data points with no context, reference point, or demonstration of causality. At best, you implicitly half-invoked one or more of several logical fallacies of questionable cause of the post hoc variety.
In other words, you didn’t actually make an argument, which is shocking since that’s supposed to be your stock in trade as an attorney. My pride is fully intact, which is why I’ve got enough self-respect not to waste arrows on your bullshit, lightweight.

[Bozo_Casanova 26549]

Am I my brother's keeper?

YES I AM!

[achooloco 1084]

46 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Nice you have a job I'm guessing. 

Gsu’s and JJ’s sum it up better than I could. Amazon would fuck up the rent in ASTORIA and woodside, sunnyside, hell even Jackson heights. Jobs are great, but Not in favor of selling out for it. My buddy got about ten -15 of us (that I know of) to call our assembly people and tell them we don’t support amazon. Hell, They probably got more people to call than that. And he is queens born, Fordham raised, lives in a new tower half a block from the LIC shore and about two blocks from the spray painted LIC converted train/park that are in all the videos and shows.

Nyc can always get more jobs, nyc can’t make more land. Rent issues are the main issue for New Yorkers (well the ones I know). Fuck with that and getting common regular people to like you will be near impossible.

[Dbeasy 15091]

I’ve seen multiple references to calling posters trolls and recommendations to put them on ignore.

Some of the posts may be something you don’t agree with, and/or the poster may be wrong with a bad viewpoint, but I don’t see much of any trolling.

It is telling that hitting the ignore button is the proposed solution when disliking someone’s opinion. And for the record, I do believe the AOC gaff isn’t a big deal, but I could see how some would.

[safe sex 11747]

Eyerolling at the suggestion that I ignore people whose opinion I disagree with, while I still have Onboard, HTown, MBU, Cajun, etc., etc., as viewable. Please. 

[Brian Fantana 6690]

I've ignored two people ever. ADHD was the first and Orca was the second. They're both trolls. If you're not familiar with it's posting history, you could probably be forgiven for not understanding.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I’ve seen multiple references to calling posters trolls and recommendations to put them on ignore.

Some of the posts may be something you don’t agree with, and/or the poster may be wrong with a bad viewpoint, but I don’t see much of any trolling.

It is telling that hitting the ignore button is the proposed solution when disliking someone’s opinion. And for the record, I do believe the AOC gaff isn’t a big deal, but I could see how some would.

This forum has some of the best trolls and the fact you can’t see them is evidence of it. 

[RDCanecutter 26469]

This is like watching Michelangelo pick out paint swatches. This is Art.

[immortal13 4059]

Dems need to reign her dumb ass in ....lulz

[immortal13 4059]

8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This forum has some of the best trolls and the fact you can’t see them is evidence of it. 

And you are the overlord of all of the trolls 

[David Dennison 18946]

11 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Dems need to reign her dumb ass in ....lulz

Indeed.

[immortal13 4059]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Indeed.

Such a keen observation....bravo, my boy, bravo!

[David Dennison 18946]

Just now, immortal13 said:

Such a keen observation....bravo, my boy, bravo!

Learn the difference before you go calling someone a dumb ass.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

That is a tough one though.

Rein, rain, reign isn’t exactly there, their, they’re 

[immortal13 4059]

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Learn the difference before you go calling someone a dumb ass.

Yes sir, mr. policeman of the interwebs, sir!!

Edited February 18, 2019 by immortal13

[immortal13 4059]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

That is a tough one though.

Rein, rain, reign isn’t exactly there, their, they’re 

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