Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[Cacti 191]

8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The comments are the best.

Not too long ago, it was the left that criticized Will; now, most of the condemnation comes from the right. What his current-day critics don’t realize is that one can be to the left of Trump and still be a conservative, which George is.

[Tom 2959]

19 hours ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

Reading the thread on Daily Texan and hearing imbeciles croon about bully ceo's and horrible business to the tunes of their heart strings really helps me to understand how and why we've gotten to a point where this bar tender with a loony toon worldview is revered with 112 and counting pages.

 

How many pages would you guess is just you, Hammer, Cajun, etc. bitching about her?  

Over/Under at 40 pages?

[JustBecause 112]

11 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

LOL AOC helped kill the Amazon deal that would have brought on 1000s of new jobs averaging $150K/yr..  Cuomo is pissed off.  This is so awesome.  Thank God she is fighting corp greed for these underpaid workers. 

AOC must be a GOP sock.  She actually said that the $3 billon in tax cuts for Amazon can now be used in her district.  Honest to God.  She thinks it’s just laying around.  WOW!!!

 

Economics major.  

Edited February 15, 2019 by JustBecause

[RDCanecutter 26442]

21 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

LOL AOC helped kill the Amazon deal that would have brought on 1000s of new jobs averaging $150K/yr..  Cuomo is pissed off.  This is so awesome.  Thank God she is fighting corp greed for these underpaid workers. 

In your blind hatred of AOC, you fail to see that she helped Democrat workers by helping sour the Amazon deal.

(Democrats in Atlanta, Dallas, Nashville, etc etc etc)

[Bash Riprock 1695]

[Shaggy3.0 1695]

Moron.

[Atx71 146]

5 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

...or your dick. 

[Chrispy 132]

2 minutes ago, Atx71 said:

...or your dick. 

It would take a very brave man to put his dick anywhere near those chompers. 

[Atx71 146]

1 minute ago, Chrispy said:

It would take a very brave man to put his dick anywhere near those chompers. 

Or Trump stupid. 

[Underdog 28633]

15 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

It would take a very brave man to put his dick anywhere near those chompers. 

Challenge accepted 

[Guest Lobo]

Link to her actually saying that $3bn In Tax incentives can now be used for other things in her district?   Not saying it didn’t happen, i just doubt she’s that naive. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

nmnm

 

 

Edited February 15, 2019 by Johnny Sack

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

That was a horrible deal for NYC. She doesn't look bad at all for opposing it... 

[Incredulity 11671]

36 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Link to her actually saying that $3bn In Tax incentives can now be used for other things in her district?   Not saying it didn’t happen, i just doubt she’s that naive. 

You were wrong.

[Js1 85336]

16 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

You are doubting how stupid she is? 

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/02/14/ocasio-cortez-we-can-invest-that-3-billion-in-our-district.html

She does think the 3 billion dollars is coming out of something when all it was a 3 Billion tax break on the 27 billion in projected taxes they would pay.  BC economics program is apparently not very strong. 

You fucking retard

Boston College (BC) is not Boston University (BU).

[Guest Lobo]

22 minutes ago, Js1 said:

You fucking retard

Boston College (BC) is not Boston University (BU).

Dude, you're not listening...he didn't say Boston University...he said Austin University.  This is what's wrong in politics, people can't even listen for the right syllables. 

[Scooter Monzingo 821]

I’m curious. And I’m asking simply because of the intensity of many posting in all of the political threads. 

With the amount of discord between the isles. And elected officials becoming far more specific in their attacks regarding religion, wealth or status. Eventually one side will demand complete victory.

In your opinion at what point do we see civil unrest? And what will be the spark that ignites it? Or do you believe it all rhetoric, and we will just simply hump along with flawed leadership? And all of this is just a  exercise in futility?

I would like to hear the different scenarios, if you’re willing to post them.

[GSU&UT 1798]

Shouldn't all you free-market lovers hate the idea of giving huge tax breaks to businesses to entice them to move? This shit makes her look like she was correct in voicing her opposition. I also can't believe how many of you are acting like she did this alone, lots and lots of people objected to this before she even said anything.

 

http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/

[ChickenSandwich 9836]

2 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

Shouldn't all you free-market lovers hate the idea of giving huge tax breaks to businesses to entice them to move? This shit makes her look like she was correct in voicing her opposition. I also can't believe how many of you are acting like she did this alone, lots and lots of people objected to this before she even said anything.

 

http://fortune.com/2019/02/14/amazon-doesnt-pay-federal-taxes-2019/

the people who voted for her overwhelmingly supported the idea, she wasn't elected to represent those people apparently 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33870]

 

[Telegraph_it 3357]

What’s the ROI on those pizzas though? 

[ChickenSandwich 9836]

2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

 

LMAO, making Trump appear intelligent is difficult, she does it like Jordan through the lane.

[Guest Lobo]

I agree with her opposition to the HQ2 project in large part.  What I can't believe has happened is that she thinks the $3bn is now "up for grabs" to fund teachers and subways.  

And that people think Long Island City is within her Congressional District.  

[babysdaddy 2724]

50 minutes ago, Scooter Monzingo said:

I’m curious. And I’m asking simply because of the intensity of many posting in all of the political threads. 

With the amount of discord between the isles. And elected officials becoming far more specific in their attacks regarding religion, wealth or status. Eventually one side will demand complete victory.

In your opinion at what point do we see civil unrest? And what will be the spark that ignites it? Or do you believe it all rhetoric, and we will just simply hump along with flawed leadership? And all of this is just a  exercise in futility?

I would like to hear the different scenarios, if you’re willing to post them.

From the Left side of the isle, if Trump gets reelected I'd expect civil unrest.  From the Right, it would take an executive order on guns to get people that fired up.  Good thing Dotard just opened up the door on that move.

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[RDCanecutter 26442]

8 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

Shouldn't all you free-market lovers hate the idea of giving huge tax breaks to businesses to entice them to move?

I'm not under the illusion that anything stays pure and wholesome whenever businesses and governments chat. The difference between now and, say, 1879, is that we get to look at some of the details.

NY looked weak offering that much, but they did. Cuomo and his gang didn't get the local people in line, so you get to a situation where one guy can veto it. Looks inept.

People everywhere else will chase those jobs, and get them. They can house them in empty business districts that have been gutted by folks buying everything through Amazon.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

17 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I'm not under the illusion that anything stays pure and wholesome whenever businesses and governments chat. The difference between now and, say, 1879, is that we get to look at some of the details.

NY looked weak offering that much, but they did. Cuomo and his gang didn't get the local people in line, so you get to a situation where one guy can veto it. Looks inept.

People everywhere else will chase those jobs, and get them. They can house them in empty business districts that have been gutted by folks buying everything through Amazon.

 

Exactly, and that's why it was a bad deal for NYC. 3 billion in tax subsidies to build a HQ which will house 25,000 jobs phased in over 10 years. I'd wager most of those jobs will be lost to automation before hitting the 10 year mark anyway. And NYC doesn't need the revitalization that the development would bring. It's a Foxconn deal for NYC, but maybe it would work as intended for a place like Nashville or St. Louis 

[Guest Lobo]

St. Louis?  A city synonymous with well-educated workforce, dynamic population, and attractive quality of life?

Im gonna assume you’re from there?

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

3 minutes ago, Lobo said:

St. Louis?  A city synonymous with well-educated workforce, dynamic population, and attractive quality of life?

Im gonna assume you’re from there?

I was just thinking of shit holes that would benefit from development 

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2 hours ago, tjhooker said:

You are doubting how stupid she is? 

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/02/14/ocasio-cortez-we-can-invest-that-3-billion-in-our-district.html

She does think the 3 billion dollars is coming out of something when all it was a 3 Billion tax break on the 27 billion in projected taxes they would pay.  BC economics program is apparently not very strong. 

She must have got this idea from the same econ book Trump read that says China is being charged with billions of dollars in tariffs that are pouring into U.S. coffers.

Now let's see if she doubles/triples down on this misunderstanding.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

We have a lot of people on this board that support her batshit crazy socialist ideas.  I cannot believe it.  I just can’t.  

[Nivek 16930]

We have a lot of people on this board that support her batshit crazy socialist ideas.  I cannot believe it.  I just can’t.  

It isn’t hard. You don’t understand what socialism is beyond just a catch all boogeyman created by the right to manipulate the rubes. And it works.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

The horror

[GHOSTUSER 361]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

We have a lot of people on this board that support her batshit crazy socialist ideas.  I cannot believe it.  I just can’t.  

anti-American values hostile to what made this country great. We’re not Sweden and will never be.

[GHOSTUSER 361]

 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

6 hours ago, tjhooker said:

LOL AOC helped kill the Amazon deal that would have brought on 1000s of new jobs averaging $150K/yr..  Cuomo is pissed off.  This is so awesome.  Thank God she is fighting corp greed for these underpaid workers. 

Maybe if Cuomo would have kept his promise and changed his name to Amazon Cuomo, Bezos would have stuck with the deal.

[RomaVicta 29907]

6 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

anti-American values

I like the people who pronounce themselves arbiters of to whom this pernicious term applies: Trump apologists brainwashed worse than those sent to re-education camps in communist countries. 

The arrival of a corporation and thousands of jobs for locals is one of the great lies of boosterism. Every company that moved to Austin in the 80s was heralded as bringing x number of jobs as though the uneducated poor would now all be lifted out of the East Side. 

Corporations bring people more than jobs. Austinites who lived here prior to the boom would not have chosen what Austin has become. Nobody cares about permanent residents. Rising property values only benefit those planning to sell. Increased congestion and wear and tear on infrastructure can decrease the local quality of life.

I don't know what the area is like where Amazon was planning to land. If the local people don't want Amazon, there are many possible reasons why. I'm delighted that they didn't choose Austin. I'd like to see them go to Detroit or some other depressed area where they would actually improve the area.

A blanket notion that businesses moving to your area is necessarily good is short sighted and ill-considered.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

18 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I like the people who pronounce themselves arbiters of to whom this pernicious term applies: Trump apologists brainwashed worse than those sent to re-education camps in communist countries. 

The arrival of a corporation and thousands of jobs for locals is one of the great lies of boosterism. Every company that moved to Austin in the 80s was heralded as bringing x number of jobs as though the uneducated poor would now all be lifted out of the East Side. 

Corporations bring people more than jobs. Austinites who lived here prior to the boom would not have chosen what Austin has become. Nobody cares about permanent residents. Rising property values only benefit those planning to sell. Increased congestion and wear and tear on infrastructure can decrease the local quality of life.

I don't know what the area is like where Amazon was planning to land. If the local people don't want Amazon, there are many possible reasons why. I'm delighted that they didn't choose Austin. I'd like to see them go to Detroit or some other depressed area where they would actually improve the area.

A blanket notion that businesses moving to your area is necessarily good is short sighted and ill-considered.

Amazon was going to go into the most expensive neighborhood in Queens, by far.  They weren't gentrifying anything. Citi did that when they built a tower in LIC in 1990. A 50 story tower that stood by itself above surrounding 3 story buildings until nearly 2010. Now you can barely even see the Citi tower in the LIC skyline.  Most of the development is luxury residential though, not commercial. Outside of a handful of office buildings and residual industrial buildings, it is primarily a bedroom community for wealthy people who work in Manhattan. 

So Amazon wasn't going to revitalize anything. They were going to foot the bill for environmental cleanup on one of the last 2 or 3 waterfront parcels left there. However, if they don't do it, someone else will.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

1 hour ago, Nivek said:

It isn’t hard. You don’t understand what socialism is beyond just a catch all boogeyman created by the right to manipulate the rubes. And it works.

Socialism only “works” in small countries full of homogenous white Europeans — the demographic the American left despises.  And even then it serves as a brake on the economy and innovation. Those countries would do much better with capitalism.  

Edited February 16, 2019 by Johnny Sack

[Dirk X West 772]

1 hour ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

anti-American values hostile to what made this country great. We’re not Sweden and will never be.

That's right. Swedish people are smart and well-educated and don't get suckered by clowns like Donald Trump. 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

26 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Socialism only “works” in small countries full of homogenous white Europeans — the demographic the American left despises.  And even then it serves as a brake on the economy and innovation. Those countries would do much better with capitalism.  

You nailed it. We are 30x larger than Sweden. They’ve let in hordes of Muslim refugees recently and they’re society is fraying because of it. They are a largely homogenous society imbued with Lutheran values of hard work, honesty and communal values They have let in large numbers of people who live in isolated, insular ghettos of their own choosing and commit crime and defraud the welfare state that the Swedes have created. Read about the crime and those cheating the generous welfare benefits in the refugee neighborhoods. The right wing party there railing against immigrants did the best ever in the recent elections.

Edited February 16, 2019 by Iconoclast Texan

[TwiceHorn 31470]

2 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

You nailed it. We are 30x larger than Sweden. They’ve let in hordes of Muslim refugees recently and they’re society is fraying because of it.

I'm not sure population makes all that much difference, but it does make central planning and administration easier.

I did hear a discussion on NPR on the topic of the success of socialism in Scandinavian countries and the most notable difference from polling is that Scandinavians by and large trust their neighbors and fellow men, while Americans do not.

[GHOSTUSER 361]

Texas has become the economic powerhouse that it is because we are a low tax, low regulation and low government services state. Those values define Texas. Likewise, America is defined by similar values. What AOC, Ilhan Omar and Bernie want are to radically transform and change the foundation of what our state and country are based upon. I’m amazed that we have people on this messgeboard devoted to the flagship university of the great state of Texas in support of the Green New Deal which is a direct assault on what has created our wealth which are mineral interests and the oil and gas industry. The Green New Deal is a government takeover and government led destruction of millions of jobs and billions of dollars of wealth. Fuck that noise. If that ever came close to happening we will have another Come and Take It flag with an oil derrick on it.

Edited February 16, 2019 by Iconoclast Texan

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

As long as we stick to a common purpose, I believe the people of the United States could make anything a success if they really wanted. 

Looking at our absurd Military and then saying things like, “we couldn’t do universal healthcare” is fucking ignorant IMO. 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

As long as we stick to a common purpose, I believe the people of the United States could make anything a success if they really wanted. 

Looking at our absurd Military and then saying things like, “we couldn’t do universal healthcare” is fucking ignorant IMO. 

Our country has an ethos based on individualism. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps mythology and the American Dream of going from rags to riches. That’s why democratic socialism will never work here and goes against the grain of what it means to be a real American. We dream big here and are not content with economic parity.

Edited February 16, 2019 by Iconoclast Texan

[Thetexashammer 1062]

7 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

In your blind hatred of AOC, you fail to see that she helped Democrat workers by helping sour the Amazon deal.

(Democrats in Atlanta, Dallas, Nashville, etc etc etc)

Why would any conservative hate her? She's fantastic. If you insist on seeing the world in terms of "enemies", she the enemy of liberals. It's why some people are already trying to primary her.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

21 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not sure population makes all that much difference, but it does make central planning and administration easier.

I did hear a discussion on NPR on the topic of the success of socialism in Scandinavian countries and the most notable difference from polling is that Scandinavians by and large trust their neighbors and fellow men, while Americans do not.

Yes, population certainly plays a part in that equation.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

22 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not sure population makes all that much difference, but it does make central planning and administration easier.

I did hear a discussion on NPR on the topic of the success of socialism in Scandinavian countries and the most notable difference from polling is that Scandinavians by and large trust their neighbors and fellow men, while Americans do not.

You didn't even address his belief that only white people can do it because everyone else are savages. 

[jimmyjazz 45952]

51 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Socialism only “works” in small countries full of homogenous white Europeans — the demographic the American left despises.  And even then it serves as a brake on the economy and innovation. Those countries would do much better with capitalism.  

No, that's what the newsletter is telling you, and you're too stupid not to question it.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

14 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Our country has an ethos based on individualism. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps mythology and the American Dream of going from rags to riches. That’s why democratic socialism will never work here and goes against the grain of what it means to be a real American. We dream big here and are not content with economic parity.

Never mind the roads, schools, libraries, post office, military, fire department, law enforcement, museums, parks, airports, and potable water.

Bootstraps.

Socialism will never work here.

[jimmyjazz 45952]

28 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Texas has become the economic powerhouse that it is because we are a low tax, low regulation and low government services state. 

Texas is an economic powerhouse because of one thing -- oil.  That's it.  Everything else followed on.