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oh, and to add, let's offer up a 'comparable' analogy reversal and see how it fits.  who's the aoc of the right?  jim jordan?  matt gaetz? this is basically like if there was a huge earthquake he

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some people see 99% and consider that absolutism.  i am one of those people. this is not your wife grabbing your cell phone that you left in the other room.  this is not a quick favor.  this is a

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Yes, of course. She is the only woman or woman of color the left right (edit) focuses their ire on. There are no other examples. Great point. It's really all intellectual and rational. And usually ver

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3 hours ago, RandomIdoit said:

The people who will propose and vote on this tax plan are going to agree to this? I highly doubt it.

Ok, doubt it.

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3 hours ago, David Dennison said:

I vote Democratic so I can give away your money and I don't give a fuck.

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9 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:

"Hey rich congressmen, let's pass this bill that says everyone who makes as much as US or more should pay more in taxes!"

Rich congressmen: "Where do I sign!"

I'm not sure what point you think you're trying to make here. We're in a thread about a legit Democratic Socialist who is about to be in Congress, who is campaigning and building heat with other legit Democratic Socialists with the specific purpose to replace establishment figureheads and move the overall political window towards political justice. Yes, it won't work right now with the 2018 Congress... is that your entire point? Is that where it begins and ends?

Or are you making some argument that it is not possible to ever have a majority in Congress that thinks taxing the Top 1% is a good idea?

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3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

The people of Europe are all living in tent cities, eating garbage and each other to survive.

soooo...  better than Buffalo and Cleveland?

 

What's your point?

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3 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

I'm not sure what point you think you're trying to make here. We're in a thread about a legit Democratic Socialist who is about to be in Congress, who is campaigning and building heat with other legit Democratic Socialists with the specific purpose to replace establishment figureheads and move the overall political window towards political justice. Yes, it won't work right now with the 2018 Congress... is that your entire point? Is that where it begins and ends?

Or are you making some argument that it is not possible to ever have a majority in Congress that thinks taxing the Top 1% is a good idea?

The point is you said "all we really need to do is raise rates at the top", and I'm pointing out that it's not feasible right now. So since we cannot do that, what is the alternative? I think it's far more likely that they increase taxes on the entire 55% that currently pays income tax instead of just the 1%.

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57 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:

The point is you said "all we really need to do is raise rates at the top", and I'm pointing out that it's not feasible right now. So since we cannot do that, what is the alternative? I think it's far more likely that they increase taxes on the entire 55% that currently pays income tax instead of just the 1%.

The alternative is to replace Congressmen until it is feasible.

What you are doing right now is called "concern trolling".

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1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

The alternative is to replace Congressmen until it is feasible.

What you are doing right now is called "concern trolling".

No what you are doing is what you always do. You come up with a scenario and then when I question how it will be implemented or achieved, you sit and cry about how you cannot believe that I think it's impossible when in reality I think it is possible but far less likely to happen. Then you say, "all I'm saying is that it is possible". No shit, tons of things are possible. Everyone elected in the next 12 years of congress could be a democrat. Is it possible, yes. Will it happen, no. See how that works?

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22 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:

No what you are doing is what you always do. You come up with a scenario and then when I question how it will be implemented or achieved, you sit and cry about how you cannot believe that I think it's impossible when in reality I think it is possible but far less likely to happen. Then you say, "all I'm saying is that it is possible". No shit, tons of things are possible. Everyone elected in the next 12 years of congress could be a democrat. Is it possible, yes. Will it happen, no. See how that works?

Where you predict a certain future when you have no standing to make such a certain prediction? Yeah, I see how it works.

Raising the top end marginal tax rates is not very far-fetched a proposal. A Dem Congress and Dem president could very easily make it happen and would be pushed VERY HARD by the youth movement in their party to do so.

Tell me more about how much of a future-predictor you are. Tell me what you thought Trump's chances were.

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6 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Where you predict a certain future when you have no standing to make such a certain prediction? Yeah, I see how it works.

There are several seats that have a Republican running unopposed so it won't be this year. As a matter of fact, the last 4 elections have had some unopposed Republican candidates. So rather than make some idealistic prediction of what may happen, make a pragmatic one. 

6 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Raising the top end marginal tax rates is not very far-fetched a proposal. A Dem Congress and Dem president could very easily make it happen and would be pushed VERY HARD by the youth movement in their party to do so.

They could easily say, "we are in the top 1% of earners and we do not want to pay more, and neither does a percentage of our voter base". They could easily say, "this youth movement is too far left and we are not going to bring any of their bills up for a vote or vote against it". 

 

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38 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:

There are several seats that have a Republican running unopposed so it won't be this year. As a matter of fact, the last 4 elections have had some unopposed Republican candidates. So rather than make some idealistic prediction of what may happen, make a pragmatic one. 

According to whose definitions of "idealistic" and "pragmatic"?

You are not a pundit. Even real pundits don't know anything. Your concern trolling is bad. Stop.

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They could easily say, "we are in the top 1% of earners and we do not want to pay more, and neither does a percentage of our voter base". They could easily say, "this youth movement is too far left and we are not going to bring any of their bills up for a vote or vote against it". 

Yes, there are many people who hate having to pay taxes and get really mad at the mere concept of tax increases. You're right. Bravo.

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According to whose definitions of "idealistic" and "pragmatic"?

You are not a pundit. Even real pundits don't know anything. Your concern trolling is bad. Stop.

You questioned why I said "no" to everyone being elected in the next 12 years will be a Democrat. 

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Where you predict a certain future when you have no standing to make such a certain prediction? Yeah, I see how it works.

Then, I told you that there are Republicans running unopposed, so for every seat to be filled by a Democrat would be almost impossible. I don't have to have "standing" or be a "pundit" to know that. I hope this was informative. I'm simply answering your questions.

 

 

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Or at least some video of Jason Voorhees killing some camp counselors.

We had a guy named Kevin...a 6'2" red headed wrestler from Hawaii with a pony tail.  He was built like a HS linebacker, yet had a very...less than manly way about him.  Someone asked him if he was gay..."I don't know..." was his answer.  He was a kayak instructor and went off the ledge far enough to finally get fired...

-Showed campers his leopard skin undies at dinner one night.  - Wrecked several kayaks on a trailer because he couldn't drive for shit. -Took Chinese throwing stars to metals classroom to sharpened them...then tested them on the wall with kids in the room.  - Oh, he also had a spear gun with him...for no explicable reason.  

So they take Kevin to the airport and let him know that he's lifetime banished from Tripp Lake Camp.  They (like morons) give him all his shit back...including stars and spear gun.

That nigh as we're having counselor appreciation night he stumbled over a counselor that fell asleep on a bench in the yard.  We ended up having to guard the kid's cabins for most of the night before they hauled him out of the showers naked and off to jail.  #FunTimes : )  

I called 3 people that I said were bad news....Kevin, a dip shit soccer instructor, and the camp's #1 tennis coach...a gay named Gary that had been coming out there for 12 + years and taught many of the girls in NYC (He was a master professional tennis instructor...it's a big deal).  Anyway...all my friends said I was crazy and that Gary was just a fun guy who liked to dress up like a clown or roller skate around the camp.  But I saw the way he looked at the girls and it's the way hungry dogs looked at steak. This guy was a big deal and highly paid...no one wanted to hear it. 

Came home one night to turn on the TV and watch a Hard Copy story about this....

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/27/nyregion/attempted-kidnapping-by-coach-stuns-pupils.html

Most of those who knew him did not want to discuss Gary Wilensky yesterday. The tennis instructor who taught New York's most privileged daughters had taken his own life, leaving as his legacy a sordid tale of sexual obsession and violence and a trail of shocked acquaintances.

"We don't even want to think about it," said a student, who like most declined to give her name.

Another said, "It's really scary because it's really close."

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4 minutes in, a friend from camp that went to Penn State called..."Oh my gosh!  You were right!!!"  

I know a lot of people bull shit and tell stories to make themselves look smarter / better...but I called this one.

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Ayanna Pressley is AOC part 2 if she upsets 10-term incumbent Capuano in Mass in the primary.

And she's a black woman, so the GOP will be foaming at the mouth. They'll fucking lose it.

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8 hours ago, XR4ticlone said:

We had a guy named Kevin...a 6'2" red headed wrestler from Hawaii with a pony tail.  He was built like a HS linebacker, yet had a very...less than manly way about him.  Someone asked him if he was gay..."I don't know..." was his answer.  He was a kayak instructor and went off the ledge far enough to finally get fired...

-Showed campers his leopard skin undies at dinner one night.  - Wrecked several kayaks on a trailer because he couldn't drive for shit. -Took Chinese throwing stars to metals classroom to sharpened them...then tested them on the wall with kids in the room.  - Oh, he also had a spear gun with him...for no explicable reason.  

So they take Kevin to the airport and let him know that he's lifetime banished from Tripp Lake Camp.  They (like morons) give him all his shit back...including stars and spear gun.

That nigh as we're having counselor appreciation night he stumbled over a counselor that fell asleep on a bench in the yard.  We ended up having to guard the kid's cabins for most of the night before they hauled him out of the showers naked and off to jail.  #FunTimes : )  

I called 3 people that I said were bad news....Kevin, a dip shit soccer instructor, and the camp's #1 tennis coach...a gay named Gary that had been coming out there for 12 + years and taught many of the girls in NYC (He was a master professional tennis instructor...it's a big deal).  Anyway...all my friends said I was crazy and that Gary was just a fun guy who liked to dress up like a clown or roller skate around the camp.  But I saw the way he looked at the girls and it's the way hungry dogs looked at steak. This guy was a big deal and highly paid...no one wanted to hear it. 

Came home one night to turn on the TV and watch a Hard Copy story about this....

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/27/nyregion/attempted-kidnapping-by-coach-stuns-pupils.html

Most of those who knew him did not want to discuss Gary Wilensky yesterday. The tennis instructor who taught New York's most privileged daughters had taken his own life, leaving as his legacy a sordid tale of sexual obsession and violence and a trail of shocked acquaintances.

"We don't even want to think about it," said a student, who like most declined to give her name.

Another said, "It's really scary because it's really close."

tennis_pro_157384064.jpg?quality=90&stri

 

4 minutes in, a friend from camp that went to Penn State called..."Oh my gosh!  You were right!!!"  

I know a lot of people bull shit and tell stories to make themselves look smarter / better...but I called this one.

I can't fap to any of this, which means I'll never get a job as a kayak instructor, but I give you props for the reporting.

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46 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

Based on conservative media preoccupation, this Latina millennial from New York is apparently the greatest threat to old white man power in the galaxy.

When someone gives you a gift this good you've got to tell everyone!  

She's like a perpetual train wreck...if train wrecks could be economically rahtarded & devoid of all reasonable thought.  

Fuck...she's perfect!  

And let us not forget...she goes entirely unknown if MSM & leftists don't paint her as Presidential timber after winning 14000 primary votes in one of the most leftist districts in America. 

So don't go blaming conservatives...own your fuckups.  

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When someone gives you a gift this good you've got to tell everyone!  

She's like a perpetual train wreck...if train wrecks could be economically rahtarded & devoid of all reasonable thought.  

Fuck...she's perfect!  

And let us not forget...she goes entirely unknown if MSM & leftists don't paint her as Presidential timber after winning 14000 primary votes in one of the most leftist districts in America. 

So don't go blaming conservatives...own your fuckups.  

So she's the liberal, female Donald Trump.

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1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

I can't fap to any of this, which means I'll never get a job as a kayak instructor, but I give you props for the reporting.

Well Maine has 16 as it's age of consent...so....

There were some cute girls...but when there are 15 male counselors to 150 female counselors….no need to be creepin' on the kiddies.  

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23 hours ago, XR4ticlone said:

I worked at a summer camp in Maine between my JR & SR years at ISU. In 1992 it was $7500 to send your daughter to this camp for 2 months which didn't include any additional activities which could add up to a couple grand.  These were all very rich people (98% of them were Jewish...that only matters as they were also 98% NY leftist /democrats).

Some of the former campers worked as counselors as well.  Watching the 1991 DNC convention on the only TV in the break room I had enough & finally asked one of them..."you're rich...how can you be a Democrat?"  Long and short of it we got to taxes "So you think you & your family should pay more in taxes?"  "Of course not!  We pay too much already"  "Your family is for certain top a 10%, but most likely part of the  top 1% of incomes in the US.  If you don't think YOU should be paying more in taxes...who the fuck should?  Because that's what they're saying...they want more tax revenues.  You're voting for it.  Explain?"  

She tried to tell me there were a lot of other people richer than them that should pay more.  "Let's be honest...if you camped here you're family is in the top 1-5% of incomes.  My folks weren't making $80k a year with both working and my dad having a side job on top of farming at that point.  Should they pay more taxes?"  "Maybe".

The problem with the left is they're super generous with OPM.  They'll give it away and feel righteous about it.  "I'm such a wonderful person!  I helped!  I'm very giving!  I vote Democrat!"

GFY!  Giving away OPM is easy and earns you no credit. 

My go to is "Don't tell me how generous you are with OPM...tell me how generous you are with YOUR time and money..."  "Well I vote for Dems because I care!"  "No you vote for Dems so you can feel like you did something without doing anything at all."  Any jackass can give away someone else's time and money...and still be a worthless jackass.  

We can basically close the CR down until 2020. This about says it all. 

Well said. 

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When someone gives you a gift this good you've got to tell everyone!  
She's like a perpetual train wreck...if train wrecks could be economically rahtarded & devoid of all reasonable thought.  
Fuck...she's perfect!  
And let us not forget...she goes entirely unknown if MSM & leftists don't paint her as Presidential timber after winning 14000 primary votes in one of the most leftist districts in America. 
So don't go blaming conservatives...own your fuckups.  


I assume you are an old white man. When you’re dead, this gal will be middle aged at most. We will see whose ideology and principles are on the way out.


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She wishes.  Trump takes shits with more economic knowledge than her.  
To be fair his shits have more economic knowledge than he does, also.

And sucking at business, knowing you suck at it, paying people off to get the business up and running, paying yourself big salaries, doing that by not paying vendors, driving the business into the ground, then filing for bankruptcy doesn't take any economic knowledge. It takes con man skills, a lack of ethics, and a knowledge of the game.

How does someone with even a kindergartener's grasp of economics have to file for bankruptcy with a fucking casino? TWICE!
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I assume you are an old white man. When you’re dead, this gal will be middle aged at most. We will see whose ideology and principles are on the way out.


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Wow...you got me!  I'm 47.  

When I'm old and dead you can eat pets and zoo animals all you like, live in poverty, and eat shit for all I care.. 

Go ahead and make this rahtarded broad your queen...or king...Sorry, I didn't mean to assume gender.

Or...and this is more likely...you'll wake the fuck up, get a job, pay taxes, and come around to reality.  If not you'll be a useless deadbeat that's not worth pissing on...it's too soon to know.  

But good luck...if you're hitching your star to the 'economics' of 'She Guevara' you're going to need all you can get.  🙄

 

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Wow...you got me!  I'm 47.  

When I'm old and dead you can eat pets and zoo animals all you like, live in poverty, and eat shit for all I care.. 

Go ahead and make this rahtarded broad your queen...or king...Sorry, I didn't mean to assume gender.

Or...and this is more likely...you'll wake the fuck up, get a job, pay taxes, and come around to reality.  If not you'll be a useless deadbeat that's not worth pissing on...it's too soon to know.  

But good luck...if you're hitching your star to the 'economics' of 'She Guevara' you're going to need all you can get.  🙄

 

Do you think you're worth pissing on?

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Wow...you got me!  I'm 47.  
When I'm old and dead you can eat pets and zoo animals all you like, live in poverty, and eat shit for all I care.. 
Go ahead and make this rahtarded broad your queen...or king...Sorry, I didn't mean to assume gender.
Or...and this is more likely...you'll wake the fuck up, get a job, pay taxes, and come around to reality.  If not you'll be a useless deadbeat that's not worth pissing on...it's too soon to know.  
But good luck...if you're hitching your star to the 'economics' of 'She Guevara' you're going to need all you can get.  
 


I was crafting a response to this and then realized you actually used the term “deadbeat” and it made me laugh because of its use in “the big Lebowski,” a movie I’m sure you hate.


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I actually agree that Trump's not a great businessman.  He's a great promoter.  Much like Obama was.
That said you can't get more economically rahtarded than She Guevara...it's not possible. 

He. Helped. Drive. Multiple. Casinos. Bankrupt.

To clarify, I agree that AOC has basically zero economics knowledge. But arguing that someone who has proven not to have even a basic understanding of finances has vastly more knowledge of complex economics systems is absurd. Having a better grasp of economics than AOC is not a high bar to clear. Trump still doesn't even get close.

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I was crafting a response to this and then realized you actually used the term “deadbeat” and it made me laugh because of its use in “the big Lebowski,” a movie I’m sure you hate.


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wait, so you don't take Jeff Lebowski as a caricature?

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On 7/26/2018 at 1:48 AM, MaybeACoordinator said:

Y'all suck at humor. That's just weird. 

I suggest you acquire one. Yeah it is kind of funny. Too bad there's not a whole half hour cartoon show dedicated to it. Maybe Samantha Bee can host it. Now that would be some fuuuuuuny shit...

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