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oh, and to add, let's offer up a 'comparable' analogy reversal and see how it fits.  who's the aoc of the right?  jim jordan?  matt gaetz? this is basically like if there was a huge earthquake he

henrygandorf
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some people see 99% and consider that absolutism.  i am one of those people. this is not your wife grabbing your cell phone that you left in the other room.  this is not a quick favor.  this is a

RomaVicta
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Yes, of course. She is the only woman or woman of color the left right (edit) focuses their ire on. There are no other examples. Great point. It's really all intellectual and rational. And usually ver

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19 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why does AOC get so much more scrutiny from the right for her perceived shortcomings as a political animal when guys like Lindsey Graham get a permanent pass?  Gosh, it's just so hard to figure out.  Somebody help me here.  </Telegraph_it>

This is the AOC thread correct? 

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22 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

Holy shit at saying she's doing nothing when she, Omar, and Talib are literally trying to use their power in the House over the congressional budget to not fund emergency bills for CBP and ICE in addition to bringing this issue back to the spotlight like it deserves.

They are doing the exact opposite of nothing, the problem is that they aren't taking some stupid bi-partisan "middle of the road" approach and you don't like it.

His take is so off-base it makes it obvious that it's just a pretext for some other irrational or offensive reason for getting triggered by AOC.  It's literally her job to build political support for addressing policy issues, and the way she has been able to help in finally bringing detention conditions to the public consciousness over the last few weeks is incredible.  And late last night she and her cohort got provisions addressing this issue added to the House border bill.  It's as far from do-nothing political gamesmanship as you can get:

 

Several progressives, including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have already secured last-minute tweaks to the bill after a late-night meeting in Pelosi's office on Monday. It’s not clear, however, whether they will be enough to win the support of the New York Democrat and her allies.

Those changes, which require certain standards of health, hygiene and nutrition for unaccompanied children, will be formally added to the bill ahead of the afternoon vote, House Rules Committee Chairman Jim McGovern confirmed Tuesday.

Democrats also agreed to changes that tighten restrictions for short-term detention facilities, known as influx shelters, stating that no child could be kept in a shelter for more than 90 days. The new language would also ensure that all migrants in U.S. custody have access to translation services.

McGovern said that the "hammer" provision that progressives are seeking would likely be worked out in the final version.

 

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28 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Nothing at all staged or corny about that photo shoot.  

And that's what we should be talking about. Did AOC overact her reaction to the concentration camp? If so, concentration camps are okay and hating AOC is even better.

We will not stand for being forced to take on the concentration camp conditions at face value. There is something underhanded about the people concerned about the issue and, how faggy, even outraged. 

Just fucking look at what's actually going on. Try. Defy the conditioning to see something else.

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7 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

And that's what we should be talking about. Did AOC overact her reaction to the concentration camp? If so, concentration camps are okay and hating AOC is even better.

We will not stand for being forced to take on the concentration camp conditions at face value. There is something underhanded about the people concerned about the issue and, how faggy, even outraged. 

Just fucking look at what's actually going on. Try. Defy the conditioning to see something else.

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I just don’t like careerists. 

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Which President?

On May 1, 1989, Donald Trump, a real estate magnate, called for the return of the death penalty in full-page advertisements published in all four of the city's major newspapers. Trump said he wanted the "criminals of every age" who were accused of beating and raping a jogger in Central Park 12 days earlier "to be afraid".[40][41] The advertisement, which cost an estimated US$85,000 (equivalent to $172,000 in 2018),[40][41] said, in part,

"Mayor Koch has stated that hate and rancor should be removed from our hearts. I do not think so. I want to hate these muggers and murderers. They should be forced to suffer ... Yes, Mayor Koch, I want to hate these murderers and I always will. ... How can our great society tolerate the continued brutalization of its citizens by crazed misfits? Criminals must be told that their CIVIL LIBERTIES END WHEN AN ATTACK ON OUR SAFETY BEGINS!"[42]

According to defendant Yusef Salaam, quoted in a February 2016 article in The Guardian, Trump "was the fire starter" in 1989, as "common citizens were being manipulated and swayed into believing that we were guilty."[43]Salaam said his family received death threats after papers ran Trump's full-page ad urging the death penalty.[43]

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A string of violent attacks did occur in Central Park that evening.

At 9 pm on April 19, 1989, a group of an estimated 30-33 teenagers who lived in East Harlem entered Manhattan's Central Park at an entrance in Harlem, near Central Park North.[4] Some of the group committed several attacks, assaults, and robberies against persons walking, biking, or jogging in the northernmost part of the park and near the reservoir, and victims began to report the incidents to police.[5] Within the North Woods, between 105th and 102nd streets, they were reported as attacking several bicyclists, hurling rocks at a cab, and attacking a pedestrian, whom they robbed of his food and beer, and left unconscious.[4][6] The teenagers roamed south along the park's East Drive and the 97th Street transverse, between 9 pm and 10 pm.[4]

At least some of the group traveled further south to the area around the reservoir, where four men jogging were attacked by several youths. Among the victims was John Loughlin, a 40-year-old schoolteacher, who was severely beaten and robbed between 9:40 and 9:50.[4] He was hit in the head with a pipe and stick, knocking him briefly unconscious.[4][7][6] At a pre-trial hearing in October 1989, a police officer testified that when Loughlin was found, he was bleeding so badly that he "looked like he was dunked in a bucket of blood".[8]

It was not until 1:30 am that night that a female jogger was found in the North Woods area of the park. She had been pulled to the north some 300 feet off the path known as the 102nd Street Crossing and brutally beaten, suffering major blood loss and skull fractures; she was later revealed to have been raped. The police increased the intensity of their effort to identify suspects in this attack and took more teenagers into custody. The jogger was not identified for about 24 hours, and it took days for the police to retrace her movements of that night. By the time of the trial of the first three suspects in June 1990, The New York Times characterized the attack on the jogger as "one of the most widely publicized crimes of the 1980s".[2]

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22 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

And that's what we should be talking about. Did AOC overact her reaction to the concentration camp? If so, concentration camps are okay and hating AOC is even better.

We will not stand for being forced to take on the concentration camp conditions at face value. There is something underhanded about the people concerned about the issue and, how faggy, even outraged. 

Just fucking look at what's actually going on. Try. Defy the conditioning to see something else.

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Don't even try to fight it. Fozzz is a jackass who couldn't be bothered to do the right thing if he were paid $1M to do it.  Fuck him, fuck Trumpkins, fuck Republicans, fuck the right.

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She knows they mean they are only going to stop issuing traditional loans/credit facilities to these private prisons?  They are not stopping the underwriting process/issuance of corporate bonds for these companies.  That's really where these banks make their money with these prisons.  It's not like the hard money lending aspect of this shit is gonna suddenly shut down private prisons.  They have more than enough paper to float, and BofA is more than happy to issue that for a handsome fee.  That ain't going away.  AOC should know that, she took $100,000 from banks in the last election cycle.  

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1 minute ago, williemackgarza said:

No shes a fucking air head. That just happens to be brown.

*No, she's a fucking airhead, who just happens to be brown.

 

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Sounds more marron than brown.

*maroon

 

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But ill give her the brown trump title, ala art acevedo. Just loves to hear herself talk. All attention whores.

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I'll ignore the (lack of) capitalization.  You're pretty fucking stupid for a guy throwing around insults regarding other people's intelligence.  No offense.

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I'll ignore the (lack of) capitalization.  You're pretty fucking stupid for a guy throwing around insults regarding other people's intelligence.  No offense.

Omg!! You are so smart are you an english prof. or editor?
Its marron, stupid mfer.
Right over your head.
Pinche pendejo.
Hola pot.
And fuck your punctuating ass.
Ok cool, hookem

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

As far as you know.

House: "Literally the entire country is angry about these concentration camps you've built to torture immigrant children. We'll provide funding for more facilities so that they have physical shelter but only if those facilities are not literally for concentration camps in which they're tortured."

McConnell: "No, you'll give us the money to build more torture camps and you'll like it."

Nancy: "Well I never! Fine, we won't stoop to your level. We'll give you your money to build more torture camps. *to other Dems* 'don't worry this is good for us' "

 

DD: "Look at this fuckin mastermind! Just the greatest political genius we've ever had!"

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AOC is absolutely right.   And what a perfect illustration of the real problem behind the "How will you deal with Mitch McConnell" question at last night's debate.  Dems have all the moral high ground on this and the public on their side.  Instead of making McConnell pay and bringing him to heel, they are just rolling over without a fight.   Like always.   Which is why McConnell pulled this in the first place, because he knows the Dems don't have the stomach for a fight.

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1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

AOC is absolutely right.   And what a perfect illustration of the real problem behind the "How will you deal with Mitch McConnell" question at last night's debate.  Dems have all the moral high ground on this and the public on their side.  Instead of making McConnell pay and bringing him to heel, they are just rolling over without a fight.   Like always.   Which is why McConnell pulled this in the first place, because he knows the Dems don't have the stomach for a fight.

It was moderate Democrats who sided with McConnell. They told Nancy they would kill the House bill if she brought it to the floor again.

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Just now, David Dennison said:

It was moderate Democrats who sided with McConnell. They told Nancy they would kill the House bill if she brought it to the floor again.

I know, I've read what happened.   But these things are never forgone conclusions; it's the job of leadership to bring people in line.   If LBJ took that kind of shit, we wouldn't have the Civil Rights Act.  Pelosi either doesn't have the will or strength to call their bluff and make them vote with the GOP against protections for kids in cages.  A strong Dem president can make that difference, even if McConnell is still Senate Majority Leader.  Which goes to my point about the debate question last night.  We need a real brawler. 

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1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

I know, I've read what happened.   But these things are never forgone conclusions; it's the job of leadership to bring people in line.   If LBJ took that kind of shit, we wouldn't have the Civil Rights Act.  Pelosi either doesn't have the will or strength to call their bluff and make them vote with the GOP against protections for kids in cages.  A strong Dem president can make that difference, even if McConnell is still Senate Majority Leader.  Which goes to my point about the debate question last night.  We need a real brawler. 

She can money whip them and risk losing the majority. Those moderates have leverage insofar as their election last year is why she's speaker. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

AOC is absolutely right.   And what a perfect illustration of the real problem behind the "How will you deal with Mitch McConnell" question at last night's debate.  Dems have all the moral high ground on this and the public on their side.  Instead of making McConnell pay and bringing him to heel, they are just rolling over without a fight.   Like always.   Which is why McConnell pulled this in the first place, because he knows the Dems don't have the stomach for a fight.

No they don’t. They incentivize not following the law and process. You have Nancy saying dangerous things like “what is the point of internal immigration enforcement” and Harris saying its America’s obligation to provide for their health care. She told him if you can make it in by any means necessary we won’t send you home. 

No side has the moral high ground on that

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2 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

No they don’t. They incentivize not following the law and process. You have Nancy saying dangerous things like “what is the point of internal immigration enforcement” and Harris saying its America’s obligation to provide for their health care. She told him if you can make it in by any means necessary we won’t send you home. 

No side has the moral high ground on that

You support a felon in the White House. You voted for a felon and you want to talk about law and process.

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57 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

House: "Literally the entire country is angry about these concentration camps you've built to torture immigrant children. We'll provide funding for more facilities so that they have physical shelter but only if those facilities are not literally for concentration camps in which they're tortured."

McConnell: "No, you'll give us the money to build more torture camps and you'll like it."

Nancy: "Well I never! Fine, we won't stoop to your level. We'll give you your money to build more torture camps. *to other Dems* 'don't worry this is good for us' "

 

DD: "Look at this fuckin mastermind! Just the greatest political genius we've ever had!"

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. 

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