Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[Cacti 191]

I usually don’t do FIFY, but I’ll make an exception.

12 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

If this democracy Iff Twitter survives, she will be a major player for decades to come.

 

Edited October 28, 2020 by Cacti

[High Plains Drifter 11162]

29 minutes ago, Cacti said:

I usually don’t do FIFY, but I’ll make an exception.

 

 

Twitter and social media in general will survive all of us.

 

For better or worse, like it or not (personally I hate twitter), social media is now a major part of our political system. Anybody who is going to be anybody in politics is going to have to be a master of social media. Love her or hate her or meh, AOC is a master of social media, so she is way ahead on that front.

 

Evolve or go extinct, boomer.

 

[Cacti 191]

2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Anybody who is going to be anybody in politics is going to have to be a master of social media.

Unfortunately this is true. My only exposure to Twitter is on Surly, and, from what I can tell, politicians and other pundits mainly use it to insult, make fun of, criticize, or lash out at some other Twitter devotee. Because of the self-imposed brevity, Twitter is a great forum for snarky, sometimes witty one-liners but it in no way contributes to a positive, political discussion.

2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

AOC is a master of social media

Also true, at least according to Surly Twitter critics. I just don’t think that being a master of Trump’s preferred means of communication is a trait to be admired.

[HornOnTheBayou 9056]

10 minutes ago, Cacti said:

Unfortunately this is true. My only exposure to Twitter is on Surly, and, from what I can tell, politicians and other pundits mainly use it to insult, make fun of, criticize, or lash out at some other Twitter devotee. Because of the self-imposed brevity, Twitter is a great forum for snarky, sometimes witty one-liners but it in no way contributes to a positive, political discussion.

Yes and no. Obviously there's a lot of idiots on Twitter, but there are some great follows as well. For example, @KevinMKruse is a Princeton professor who focuses on the history of on the modern conservative movement. He does a real good job of putting the current political situation into historical context. If you follow the right people, Twitter can be a great source of news and commentary.

[elfenix 34658]

 

 

 

[jimmyjazz 46979]

"Drink water and don't be racist."

Holy shit.  The double whammy.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Huckleberry 34407]

The Republicans have done the same thing with her that the Democrats did with Trump. They've turned their greatest enemy into a superstar.

Their miscalculation is that Ocasio-Cortez is not like Pelosi. I don't think she'll be satisfied just staying a Representative forever and rising to Speaker while not actually getting anything done. Turning Pelosi and Feinstein into scary monsters is fine because they won't actually do anything to make you regret it. Not sure that's the case here.

Edited October 31, 2020 by Huckleberry

[Dahobbs 18192]

3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

The Republicans have done the same thing with her that the Democrats did with Trump. They've turned their greatest enemy into a superstar.

Their miscalculation is that Ocasio-Cortez is not like Pelosi. I don't think she'll be satisfied just staying a Representative forever and rising to Speaker while not actually getting anything done. Turning Pelosi and Feinstein into scary monsters is fine because they won't actually do anything to make you regret it. Not sure that's the case here.

I really think she has a shot at the presidency some day. 

[SizzleChest 8302]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

I really think she has a shot at the presidency some day. 

Or to be the new Oprah.

Edited October 31, 2020 by SizzleChest

[Revolution512 1512]

2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I really think she has a shot at the presidency some day. 

God help us

[Dahobbs 18192]

1 minute ago, Revolution512 said:

God help us

She would be great. Actually caring about the people and improving the nation would put her in the top 25% of Presidents automatically. 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

This is the right move, hopefully Jessica Cisneros or Sara Stapleton Barrera is joining as well.

Edited October 31, 2020 by StassneyHorn

[Bruh Man 3160]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

That's bae.

 

3 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

God help us

Yes, god forbid we actually have a president who cares about the poor/middle classes.

[Huckleberry 34407]

Hell, she'd be an improvement over most Presidents simply by virtue of being willing to work hard and learn. Agree or disagree with her policy positions there is no argument against the fact that she has worked very hard for her constituents while in office. 

Edited October 31, 2020 by Huckleberry

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

16 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

The Republicans have done the same thing with her that the Democrats did with Trump. They've turned their greatest enemy into a superstar.

Their miscalculation is that Ocasio-Cortez is not like Pelosi. I don't think she'll be satisfied just staying a Representative forever and rising to Speaker while not actually getting anything done. Turning Pelosi and Feinstein into scary monsters is fine because they won't actually do anything to make you regret it. Not sure that's the case here.

Think she’s a statewide winner by the end of the decade.  Probably Senate.  

[Nivek 17330]

I like her, but Porter would be my choice.

[CooterBrown 18272]

Hell, she'd be an improvement over most Presidents simply by virtue of being willing to work hard and learn. Agree or disagree with her policy positions there is no argument against the fact that she has worked very hard for her constituents while in office. 

But she’s a woman. With opinions. And she tells them to you.

/republicans

[immamac 44200]

On 10/31/2020 at 1:53 PM, Dahobbs said:

I really think she has a shot at the presidency some day. 

When does she turn 35? I think she runs as the Progressive party candidate when it gets off the ground after the fracture that is incoming in the democratic party (win or lose)

[immamac 44200]

yeah she'll be eligible in 2024, so maybe 2028 she'll run if something weird doesn't happen this 4 year cycle and she becomes larger than life and can swing it in 24

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 34079]

4 hours ago, Nivek said:

I like her, but Porter would be my choice.

Yeah, my Marry, Fuck, Kill would go Porter, AOC, Pelosi (for no other reason than it's time to put her out to pasture - once this orange menace is gone, of course)

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

Nancy Pelosi should be killed regardless of marrying or fucking. 

[tx 3 putt 78470]

30 minutes ago, immamac said:

yeah she'll be eligible in 2024, so maybe 2028 she'll run if something weird doesn't happen this 4 year cycle and she becomes larger than life and can swing it in 24

She’s running in 2024

AOC has deep Tx ties 

[Nivek 17330]

30 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Yeah, my Marry, Fuck, Kill would go Porter, AOC, Pelosi (for no other reason than it's time to put her out to pasture - once this orange menace is gone, of course)

Well I have to disagree with you there.  Porter would drive me nuts as a spouse, and since I have to fuck the spouse, the answer is to marry AOC, fuck Pelosi (once, she has huge cans) and Kill Porter.  

[elfenix 34658]

9 minutes ago, Nivek said:

since I have to fuck the spouse,

are you her cable guy?

[Underdog 29103]

Yeah, I'd hate to be Porter's spouse and have her breakout the whiteboard on my ass. 

[jimmyjazz 46979]

5 hours ago, Nivek said:

I like her, but Porter would be my choice.

[elfenix 34658]

its happening

 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

On 10/31/2020 at 3:06 PM, Patrick Bateman said:

Think she’s a statewide winner by the end of the decade.  Probably Senate.  

Not unless Schumer is retiring. She can't beat his Cuomo coalition.  I don't see her wanting to challenge Gillibrand even though AOC could beat Gillibrand in a primary.

[Patrick Bateman 3966]

4 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Not unless Schumer is retiring. She can't beat his Cuomo coalition.  I don't see her wanting to challenge Gillibrand even though AOC could beat Gillibrand in a primary.

Chuck is basically 70.  He'd be up in 2028 when he's essentially 78.  Good time to retire...... and he sucks.

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

3 hours ago, Underdog said:

Yeah, I'd hate to be Porter's spouse and have her breakout the whiteboard on my ass. 

For goodness sake, just do it right the first time and she won't have to.

<ducks>

[FondrenRoad 4378]

4 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Chuck is basically 70.  He'd be up in 2028 when he's essentially 78.  Good time to retire...... and he sucks.

 

Retiring at 78? Thats a baby in the Senate. 

[elfenix 34658]

yeah chuck grassley is like 123 and has been in the senate for 68 years at this point

[Biff Tannen 46061]

Mayor pete will be president before any of these chuckle fucks. And we will be better off for it. 

[HenryJames 67116]

 

[Underdog 29103]

Living rent free in their heads. 

[HenryJames 67116]

 

[bad_teammate 13481]

They're obsessed. Absolutely obsessed.

[hayden_horn 11401]

36 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

that's amazing

[Hawndoh 2409]

They really should rebrand their argument and stop saying "defund the police" and maybe say "demilitarize the police"

Edited November 12, 2020 by Hawndoh

[bad_teammate 13481]

1 minute ago, Hawndoh said:

They really should rebrand their argument and stop saying "defund the police" and maybe say "demilitarize the police"

Who is "they"?

[mdmost 43852]

Reform the police. 

[Hawndoh 2409]

10 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Who is "they"?

Anyone with the power and influence to change the rhetoric. It doesn't matter who started the phrase, but those who want to reform police and are in a position to do so need to take control of the messaging.

[Macklemore 2945]

On 10/31/2020 at 2:06 PM, Patrick Bateman said:

Think she’s a statewide winner by the end of the decade.  Probably Senate.  

Not so fast. She isn't sure she will even remain in politics.

Is there a universe in which they’re hostile enough that we’re talking about a Senate run in a couple years?

I genuinely don’t know. I don’t even know if I want to be in politics. You know, for real, in the first six months of my term, I didn’t even know if I was going to run for re-election this year.

Really? Why?

It’s the incoming. It’s the stress. It’s the violence. It’s the lack of support from your own party. It’s your own party thinking you’re the enemy. When your own colleagues talk anonymously in the press and then turn around and say you’re bad because you actually append your name to your opinion.

I chose to run for re-election because I felt like I had to prove that this is real. That this movement was real. That I wasn’t a fluke. That people really want guaranteed health care and that people really want the Democratic Party to fight for them.

But I’m serious when I tell people the odds of me running for higher office and the odds of me just going off trying to start a homestead somewhere — they’re probably the same.

 

[SydneyCarton 49327]

5 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Not so fast. She isn't sure she will even remain in politics.

Is there a universe in which they’re hostile enough that we’re talking about a Senate run in a couple years?

I genuinely don’t know. I don’t even know if I want to be in politics. You know, for real, in the first six months of my term, I didn’t even know if I was going to run for re-election this year.

Really? Why?

It’s the incoming. It’s the stress. It’s the violence. It’s the lack of support from your own party. It’s your own party thinking you’re the enemy. When your own colleagues talk anonymously in the press and then turn around and say you’re bad because you actually append your name to your opinion.

I chose to run for re-election because I felt like I had to prove that this is real. That this movement was real. That I wasn’t a fluke. That people really want guaranteed health care and that people really want the Democratic Party to fight for them.

But I’m serious when I tell people the odds of me running for higher office and the odds of me just going off trying to start a homestead somewhere — they’re probably the same.

 

I mean. I feel for her. But that's politics. She's absolutely not the enemy. But she's been demonized, and I'm not surprised that other party members have to resent running against their opponents and her shadow in states and precincts far away and wildly different than hers. I don't know how you solve that, but I get why she and other democrats are frustrated. 

[Brandywine 1326]

Dems have a major messaging problem, IMO. 

[Biff Tannen 46061]

3 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

Dems have a major messaging problem, IMO. 

That's putting it very nicely.

[Foosters 18226]

2 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

Dems have a major messaging problem, IMO. 

The Dems have an inherent disadvantage. They are up against a party that runs what has consistently proven to be the most successful political platform in human history: invaders are coming to take your freedom, your jobs, and your identity.

[Pescado_Rojo 19559]

The right have already identified her as a threat so they're going to try to give her the Hillary treatment for the next 20 years, probably to less effect. Rush will die soon, and their #1 demo will be dying off in ever increasing numbers over that time.