2025 NFL Draft

[kevwun 15797]

Young could be on the Jamarcus Russell career path.

[mwaadeeb 1221]

40 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Some of these mocks have an insane amount of recency bias.

Does Carolina take a QB and give up on Young? He's still on his rookie deal so trading him would be cheap cap-wise.

Cleveland isn't taking a QB - they can't get rid of Watson until after next year at the earliest unless they can get some sucker to take him in a trade.

And to make it Shadeur brings along potentially the worst helicopter parent in the history of the NFL.

To drop Quinn completely after a rocky start throwing (after a month recovering from an injury that affects throwing) is pretty dumb. A good game Saturday and he's right back up there.

[The Dog 44060]

1 minute ago, mwaadeeb said:

To drop Quinn completely after a rocky start throwing (after a month recovering from an injury that affects throwing) is pretty dumb. A good game Saturday and he's right back up there.

It's also possible that being injured again contributed to that rather than his performance. The biggest question mark for Quinn is his inability to stay healthy. From that perspective it's reasonable to leave him out of first round mocks.

[Murfdogg21 4413]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

Cleveland isn't taking a QB - they can't get rid of Watson until after next year at the earliest unless they can get some sucker to take him in a trade.

Sure about that? They are stuck with Watson (or at least his salary), but if they land top 5 in the draft and there’s a QB they like (on a rookie contract), you think they’d pass? An OT, WR, DL isn’t going to fix their team and Watson. Trading out helps them less short term and sets them up to maybe be in a position to draft a QB next year. Why chance that if there’s a QB they like on the board in 2025?

[kevwun 15797]

Sanders would be a great pick for the Browns to continue their string of qb busts.

Edited October 16 by kevwun

[Murfdogg21 4413]

I didn’t catch the edit time limit to add the recency bias on Watson: in 2024, he is passing at 61%, 5 TD, 3 INT, 31 sacks, 148 yards rushing as the team sits at 1-5.

In 3 seasons with Cleveland, he’s played 18 games, passed 60%, 19 TD, 12 INT, 68 sacks and the Browns went 9-8 in his starts. I would move on if I were the Browns. The pitchforks and torches are waiting. 

[The Dog 44060]

2 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Sure about that? They are stuck with Watson (or at least his salary), but if they land top 5 in the draft and there’s a QB they like (on a rookie contract), you think they’d pass? An OT, WR, DL isn’t going to fix their team and Watson. Trading out helps them less short term and sets them up to maybe be in a position to draft a QB next year. Why chance that if there’s a QB they like on the board in 2025?

I should clarify - they aren't taking a QB in the first round and almost certainly not with the first overall pick IMHO. I also don't think anyone will take a QB 1/1 this year unless it's Carolina.

Watson's contract is a great tanking mechanism since they are stuck with him for this year and next (barring injury). Trade away the older guys for draft picks and rebuild. Then launch Deshaun after 2025 and take the dead money hit. 

[Fud 9552]

5 hours ago, The Dog said:

Some of these mocks have an insane amount of recency bias.

Does Carolina take a QB and give up on Young? He's still on his rookie deal so trading him would be cheap cap-wise.

Cleveland isn't taking a QB - they can't get rid of Watson until after next year at the earliest unless they can get some sucker to take him in a trade.

And to make it Shadeur brings along potentially the worst helicopter parent in the history of the NFL.

I agree with the recency bias on QBs

I think Carolina views Young as sunk cost and wouldn't be surprised if they look to trade him away for whatever they can get. Cleveland might have to move on from Watson as the starter regardless of the contract, he's been playing historically bad

Shedeur has been playing better recently. I think the top six QBs can go in pretty much any order, so I'm not going to quibble with how they're ranked at this point in the draft 

[Fud 9552]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

I should clarify - they aren't taking a QB in the first round and almost certainly not with the first overall pick IMHO. I also don't think anyone will take a QB 1/1 this year unless it's Carolina.

 

I could any of Cleveland, Carolina, Las Vegas, Tennessee, and NYG taking one at 1.1, and I could see LAR and Miami taking one in the top ten as QBs to groom

[The Dog 44060]

 

39 minutes ago, Fud said:

I could any of Cleveland, Carolina, Las Vegas, Tennessee, and NYG taking one at 1.1, and I could see LAR and Miami taking one in the top ten as QBs to groom

I don't think there's any question the Cleveland front office wants to move on from Watson - it's that Haslam won't let them. So if they are picking first it would require Haslam's blessing to take a QB. 

Carolina makes perfect sense to move on from Young and he's still on his rookie deal and they are likely to be picking first overall. They're horrible.

As for the others - the only reason I don't think they take a QB at 1.1 is because none will be there and I doubt any of them trade up to the spot.

I don't think there's any question that someone like the Giants are taking a QB for example but why trade up to the top spot and pay a premium? Nobody wants to give up a king's ransom like Carolina and get burned.

Another team you didn't list that might make a play for a QB in the first round is the Steelers - both Fields and Wilson are gone after this year.

[tokamak 6431]

Definitely seems like Carolina has made up their minds to move on from Young. Only reason to keep him on the bench right now is to try to preserve some trade value.

[Fud 9552]

10 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I don't think there's any question the Cleveland front office wants to move on from Watson - it's that Haslam won't let them. So if they are picking first it would require Haslam's blessing to take a QB. 

 

I understand all of this, and I think Watson having the worst QB'ing season in decades will lead to Haslam blessing it 

[Fud 9552]

Updated #1 overall pick odds per DVOA

1) New England 24.2% 

2) Carolina 20.1% 

3) Cleveland 18.1%

4) Jacksonville 9.7%

5) Las Vegas 8.8%

6) Tennessee 7.1%

[Fud 9552]

As I posted before, probably discount Nate's QB opinions. I like the rest of his draft stuff though

9) Kelvin Banks Jr
48) Cam Williams
49) Isaiah Bond

 

[LTtxfan 49244]

 

[LTtxfan 49244]

Mel Kiper updates Big Board Top 25 player rankings for 2025 NFL Draft after Week 9

by:Andrew Graham•10/31/24

1. CB/WR Travis Hunter, Colorado

Hunter remains the top talent in college football and has gotten back on track after being slowed by an injury. He’ll keep a stranglehold on the top spot barring an unexpected fall off.

Perhaps most impressive about Hunter is that he’s been an ironman playing both ways. He’s played more than 800 snaps in eight games.

2. CB Will Johnson, Michigan

Johnson has been quiet of late as he’s mostly been held out with a lower body injury. But when he’s healthy, he’s arguably the top cover corner in the class and a top player.

Johnson has plus size and length at the position and plenty of ball production in his college career. He’s also a plus run defender on the outside.

3. DE Abdul Carter, Penn State

Carter has made a full-time move to rushing off the edge this season and it’s paid off. His blend of length, size and athleticism lends itself to beating tackles in his way of choosing.

With just four sacks on the year, Carter’s out and out production could probably be better. But he’s been thoroughly impactful and can make a big splash against Ohio State on Saturday.

4. DE Mykel Williams, Georgia

Williams has come back from an early-season ankle injury and looked the part of a top edge rusher in the class. And coming into college as a top recruit with elite physical traits, Williams was always on course to be in this conversation.

His stats have been lagging as he’s played fewer games. But his explosion and power off the edge are undeniable.

5. DT Mason Graham, Michigan

Graham plays the defensive tackle position with an elite blend of technique, both with his hands and footwork, and plenty of quickness and brute force. And it’s made the Wolverines defender a premiere talent in the 2025 class, should he declare early.

And Graham will be tantalizing for NFL teams as he can provide the coveted interior pass rush without sacrificing as a run defender. There just aren’t many players who can be as consistently disruptive in the middle of the line like Graham.

6. OT Kelvin Banks, Texas

In a league where teams are betting on traits more and more, Banks fits the bill. But his production stacks up brilliantly, too.

By years end, he’ll have started more than 40 games at Texas. And even with that long track record, you can count the sacks Banks has given up in his career on one hand, keeping him firmly in the Top 10 of Kiper’s Big Board.

7. DE Nic Scourton, Texas A&M

Scourton has been a plus-addition for the Aggies front during his first season in College Station, where he’s from. And the transfer edge defender is equally as effective crushing pockets as he is boxing in runners.

Scourton plays from the edge with a lot of power and length, walking tackles back and setting firm edges. He might not have the elite get-off and bend of other pass rushers, but 12.5 tackles for loss and five sacks speaks for itself.

8. S Malaki Starks, Georgia

Starks is a ballhawk and has been a consistent force on the backend of Georgia’s defense basically since he arrived on campus as a freshman. And he’s only gotten better year to year.

And along with his top-shelf ball skills, Starks brings plenty more to the table. He’s got the length, bulk and willingness to come down as a run defender and rarely misses tackles.

9. RB Ashton Jeanty, Boise State

Jeanty is the Heisman front runner for many and though he’s perhaps likely to slip out of the Top 10 come draft night, the talent and production is undeniable. That’s what tends to happen when you’re on a pace that only the likes of Barry Sanders have been on.

And though Jeanty might not break some of those absurd single-season marks, he’s been eye-wateringly productive. And with speed, power, pass catching ability and comfort in pass protection, Jeanty is the total package NFL teams want at running back.

10. OLB Jalon Walker, Georgia

Walker burst onto the scene with a massive showing against Texas. In just the first half of that game, he showed elite quickness and closing speed, picking up a trio of sacks.

And having played both off the ball and now off the edge, Walker’s versatility will be intriguing for NFL teams. And as production starts to catch up with the physical abilities, Walker could climb some more.

Players Nos. 11 through 25

11. QB Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
12. QB Cam Ward, Miami
13. WR Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
14. OLB James Pearce Jr., Tennessee
15. DT Kenneth Grant, Michigan (+3)
16. OT Aireontae Ersery, Minnesota (+3)
17. DT Walter Nolen, Ole Miss (-1)
18. WR Luther Burden, Missouri (-1)
19. OT Will Campbell, LSU (-4)
20. CB Shavon Revel, East Carolina
21. CB Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame
22. TE Tyler Warren, Penn State
23. OT Josh Simmons, Ohio State
24. TE Colston Loveland, Michigan
25. S Nick Emmanwori, South Carolina 

And with a month of the college football season still to go, there’s plenty more movement to come in Kiper’s Big Board.

 

[Fud 9552]

Not Brugler/DJ, but a 7 round mock to read

7) Kelvin Banks
10) Cam Williams
21) Isaiah Banks
42) Quinn Ewers
93) Jahdae Barron
113) Gunnar Helm
153) Andrew Mukuba
171) Matthew Golden
180) Alfred Collins
240) Barryn Sorrell

https://atozsports.com/nfl-draft/7-round-2025-nfl-mock-draft-shedeur-sanders-cam-ward-travis-hunter-go-top-three/

[LTtxfan 49244]

NFL Reveals Deadlines to Declare for 2025 Draft with 'Championship' Rule Change

The NFL has revealed its special eligibility rules and deadlines to declare for the 2025 NFL draft, with Monday, Jan. 6 serving as a soft deadline for special eligibility, Wednesday, Jan. 15 operating as the traditional hard deadline and a special "championship" deadline set for Friday, Jan. 24, specifically for players for the two teams in the FBS Championship Game.

Additionally, the opt-out deadline to remove a player from draft consideration is Friday, Feb. 7.

Tom Pelissero of NFL Network broke down more of the details and announcements from Tuesday:

NFL draft-eligibility rules state that a player "must have been out of high school for at least three years and must have used up their college eligibility before the start of the next college football season. Underclassmen and players who have graduated before using all their college eligibility may request the league's approval to enter the draft early."

Additionally, a player is only eligible to be drafted in the year following the conclusion of their college eligibility.

Once a player is deemed eligible, the pre-draft process begins, which can include invitations to a trio of All-Star Games (East-West Shrine Bowl, HBCU Legacy Bowl, Senior Bowl), participation in the NFL Scouting Combine, pro days and private workouts.

And, of course, mock drafts, big boards and rumors as far as the eye can see.

As for the NFL's revised calendar for requesting special eligibility and new "championship" deadline, that was put in place due to the expanded College Football Playoff, which now will feature 12 teams and be spread out over an entire month, starting on Friday, Dec. 20 and concluding on Monday, Jan. 20.

 

[LTtxfan 49244]

2025 NFL Draft: Mel Kiper makes big changes to Top 10 QB rankings after Week 10 of college football

by:Barkley Truax•about 17 hours ago

Making a slight change from his rankings after Week 9, here’s how Kiper’s rankings shaped up with only a handful of weeks left in the regular season.

1. Shedeur Sanders, Colorado

Shedeur Sanders has been atop mock drafts all season when it comes to being the first quarterback taken in April’s draft. While Colorado was idle in Week 10, his performance against Cincinnati in Week 9 saw Sanders complete 25 of his 30 passes for 323 yards and scored two touchdowns through the air and another one on the ground.

That performance reflects the entire body of work he’s put together this season. One of the most accurate passers in the country, Sanders has completed 73.3% (220 of 300) of his passes this season for a total of 2,591 yards, 21 touchdowns and six interceptions. He’s added three additional scores on the ground as well.

2. Cam Ward, Miami

Through 10 weeks, Cam Ward leads the country with 29 passing touchdowns in addition to 3,146 yards and only six interceptions. He also has his Miami Hurricanes off to a 9-0 start with a good chance to end the regular season undefeated and play for an ACC title.

Ward debated the option of turning pro after his last season at Washington State. He elected to make the transfer to Mario Cristobal’s program and it appears to be paying off for him heading into the final stages of the regular season.

3. Jalen Milroe, Alabama

Few quarterbacks impact the game as much as Jalen Milroe does for Alabama. A true dual-threat quarterback, Milroe has almost split his 25 touchdowns this season right down the middle. He leads the Crimson Tide with 12 rushing touchdowns while his other 13 come through the air.

He has over 2,000 yards of offensive this season thanks to his abilities, and NFL teams are certainly taking notice. If he can help lead his team to the College Football Playoff, he may be able to close the gap between him and Sanders and Ward on NFL team’s draft boards.

4. Garrett Nussmeier, LSU (+3)

Garrett Nussemeier was ranked No. 9 on Mel Kiper’s list after Week 8 and continues to rise at a rate faster than any other quarterback on this list. While the Tigers haven’t been perfect record-wise over that span, Nussmeier appears to have impressed Kiper enough to put him in the top four.

One quality that works in his favor is the fact that he sat and waited his turn behind Jayden Daniels instead of entering the transfer portal. Nussmeier has largely backed his ranking up on the field as well, throwing for 2,627 yards, 20 touchdowns and nine interceptions this season.

5. Quinn Ewers, Texas

Quinn Ewers won’t have the numbers to back it up this season thanks to him missing some time with injury this season, but Ewers is a proven winner as the Longhorns’ quarterback. This season he has 1,389 passing yards and 14 touchdowns.

However, Texas has continued to be one of the premier teams in college football over the last two seasons, and he’s been shooting up draft boards ever since. Depending how he can finish up what is expected to be his final season in Austin, there may be room for him to move up on some team’s boards at the end of the draft cycle.

6. Carson Beck, Georgia (-2)

Carson Beck did not help himself when he threw three interceptions during Georgia’s win against Florida over the weekend. While it didn’t result in the Bulldogs losing its status as a CFP contender, it did drop him two spots from where he was on Kiper’s list one week ago.

The concerning part is that this isn’t a one-off incident. In fact, it’s the third time Beck has throw three interceptions in a single game this season, and has thrown eight combined in Georgia’s last three games. He has 11 on the season, but appears to have done enough elsewhere on the stat sheet to remain in favor with Kiper and other draft analysts.

7. Drew Allar, Penn State (-1)

Penn State’s perfect season may have ended, but Drew Allar is still a top 10 draft eligible quarterback heading into Week 11. However, like Beck, his ranking suffers from his most recent performance.

Allar completed 12 passes for 146 yards and failed to throw a touchdown pass in the Nittany Lions’ most important regular season game of the season, and they came up short. However, four unranked opponents are left on the Nittany Lions’ schedule in the regular season — the perfect opportunity to help put him back on the radar as a top quarterback option for NFL teams in April.

8. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana

In the same way that Indiana has played itself into College Football Playoff contention, Hoosiers quarterback Kurtis Rourke has played himself into potentially being one of the first 10 quarterbacks taken off the board in April.

Leading IU to an undefeated season through 10 weeks this year, he’s thrown for 2,204 yards and 19 touchdowns. His 91.6 QBR ranks No. 2 in the country behind Cam Ward.

9. Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss

Jaxson Dart has conducted one of the most potent offenses in football since taking over as Ole Miss’ starting quarterback in 2022. He also has one of the most impressive stat lines in the country and on track to record career-high numbers before the end of the regular season.

Boasting a career-high 71.7% completion percentage, Dart has thrown for 3,210 yards and 21 touchdowns compared to three interceptions. He has a 44-8 touchdown-to-interception ratio over the past two years and has also thrown for over 10,000 yards in his career.

10. Dillon Gabriel, Oregon

Dillon Gabriel is new to the list this week, replacing Ohio State‘s Will Howard at No. 10 as the Buckeyes signal caller did not make the list after Week 10.

Through 10 weeks, he’s helped deliver Oregon a No. 1 overall ranking in the initial College Football Playoff Top 25 and has the Ducks undefeated with the hopes of winning a national title before he’s off to the NFL. If he can add a championship to his resume, he’ll be even more attractive to NFL teams heading into the pre draft process.

 

[Fud 9552]

Brugler's updated top 50. No Ewers, no Beck.

1) Travis Hunter- CB- Colorado
2) Will Johnson- CB- Michigan
3) Abdul Carter- Edge- Penn State
4) Malaki Starks- S- Georgia
5) Tetairoa McMillan- WR- Arizona
6) Ashton Jeanty- RB- Boise State
7) Jalon Walker- LB- Georgia
'8) Mykel Williams- Edge- Georgia
9) Mason Graham- DT- Michigan
10) Luther Burden III- WR- Missouri
11) Will Campbell- OT- LSU
12) James Pearce Jr- Edge- Tennessee
13) Colston Loveland- TE- Michigan
14) Derrick Harmon- DT- Oregon
15) Shemar Stewart- Edge- Texas A&M
16) Cam Ward- QB- Miami
17) Nic Scourton- Edge- Texas A&M
18) Kelvin Banks Jr- OT- Texas
19) Tyleik Williams- DT- Ohio State
20) Walter Nolen- DT- Ole Miss
21) Shavon Revel Jr- CB- East Carolina
22) Jalen Milroe- QB- Alabama
23) Shedeur Sanders- QB- Colorado
24) JT Tuimoloau- Edge- Ohio State
25) Kenneth Grant- DT- Michigan
26) Tyler Warren- TE- Penn State
27) Cameron Williams- OT- Texas
28) Eric Ayomanor- WR- Stanford
29) Josh Simmons- OT- Ohio State
30) Garrett Nussmeier- QB- LSU
31) Landon Jackson- Edge- Arkansas
32) Jonah Savaiinaea- IOL- Arizona
33) Josh Conerly Jr- OT- Oregon
34) Deone Walker- DT- Kentucky
35) Emeka Egbuka- WR- Ohio State
36) Evan Stewart- WR- Oregon
37) Mike Green- Edge- Marshall
38) Maxwell Hairston- CB- Kentucky
39) Kaleb Johnson- RB- Iowa
40) Omarion Hampton- RB- North Carolina
41) Nick Emmanwori- S- South Carolina
42) Wyatt Milum- IOL- West Virginia
43) Jack Swayer- Edge- Ohio State
44) Tyler Booker- IOL- Alabama
45) Isaiah Bond- WR- Texas
46) Aireontae Ersery- OT- Minnesota
47) Grey Zabel- IOL- North Dakota State
48) Kyle Kennard- Edge- South Carolina
49) Mason Taylor- TE- LSU
50) Jihaad Campbell- LB- Alabama

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5910260/2024/11/12/nfl-draft-2025-prospect-rankings-dane-brugler/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twhq&source=twitterhq

[Fud 9552]

On 10/4/2024 at 7:39 AM, Fud said:

Someone to watch for who might eventually be viewed as one of the top defensive prospects in the draft is Kentucky DL Deone Walker. He's 6'6, 340, athletic, and lines up all over the place and causes hell. Watch the Georgia game.

I'm surprised by the Deone Walker fall. When I watched him early in the season he was a 6'6 athletic monster who they moved up and down the line to create matchup advantages, and he looked like a Chris Jones starter kit. I guess the tape has just been bad?

[Burt Macklin 19038]

2 hours ago, Fud said:

Brugler's updated top 50. No Ewers, no Beck.

1) Travis Hunter- CB- Colorado
2) Will Johnson- CB- Michigan
3) Abdul Carter- Edge- Penn State
4) Malaki Starks- S- Georgia
5) Tetairoa McMillan- WR- Arizona
6) Ashton Jeanty- RB- Boise State
7) Jalon Walker- LB- Georgia
'8) Mykel Williams- Edge- Georgia
9) Mason Graham- DT- Michigan
10) Luther Burden III- WR- Missouri
11) Will Campbell- OT- LSU
12) James Pearce Jr- Edge- Tennessee
13) Colston Loveland- TE- Michigan
14) Derrick Harmon- DT- Oregon
15) Shemar Stewart- Edge- Texas A&M
16) Cam Ward- QB- Miami
17) Nic Scourton- Edge- Texas A&M
18) Kelvin Banks Jr- OT- Texas
19) Tyleik Williams- DT- Ohio State
20) Walter Nolen- DT- Ole Miss
21) Shavon Revel Jr- CB- East Carolina
22) Jalen Milroe- QB- Alabama
23) Shedeur Sanders- QB- Colorado
24) JT Tuimoloau- Edge- Ohio State
25) Kenneth Grant- DT- Michigan
26) Tyler Warren- TE- Penn State
27) Cameron Williams- OT- Texas
28) Eric Ayomanor- WR- Stanford
29) Josh Simmons- OT- Ohio State
30) Garrett Nussmeier- QB- LSU
31) Landon Jackson- Edge- Arkansas
32) Jonah Savaiinaea- IOL- Arizona
33) Josh Conerly Jr- OT- Oregon
34) Deone Walker- DT- Kentucky
35) Emeka Egbuka- WR- Ohio State
36) Evan Stewart- WR- Oregon
37) Mike Green- Edge- Marshall
38) Maxwell Hairston- CB- Kentucky
39) Kaleb Johnson- RB- Iowa
40) Omarion Hampton- RB- North Carolina
41) Nick Emmanwori- S- South Carolina
42) Wyatt Milum- IOL- West Virginia
43) Jack Swayer- Edge- Ohio State
44) Tyler Booker- IOL- Alabama
45) Isaiah Bond- WR- Texas
46) Aireontae Ersery- OT- Minnesota
47) Grey Zabel- IOL- North Dakota State
48) Kyle Kennard- Edge- South Carolina
49) Mason Taylor- TE- LSU
50) Jihaad Campbell- LB- Alabama

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5910260/2024/11/12/nfl-draft-2025-prospect-rankings-dane-brugler/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twhq&source=twitterhq

Luther Burden at 10 makes absolutely no sense to me. He’s going to test well, and he’s extremely good with the ball in his hands, but he’s not a good WR. He doesn’t seem to separate much against good CBs because he’s not a good route runner, and it’s too hard to scheme guys consistently in the open field to use a top 10 pick on him. 

He got bottled up last year against good defenses. Against teams with NFL talent on defense (Kentucky, UGA, Tenn, and tOSU) last year, he averaged 3 catches for 27 yards. In the other 9 games he averaged 8 for 123, which is great but not nearly as meaningful when projecting to the NFL. 

Loveland 13 spots ahead of Warren also seems off. Warren is bigger and a better athlete. I get Loveland is very good, but I don’t see the ceiling for him to be 13th and ahead of Warren. 

[Fud 9552]

On 11/12/2024 at 8:12 AM, Fud said:

Brugler's updated top 50. No Ewers, no Beck.

1) Travis Hunter- CB- Colorado
2) Will Johnson- CB- Michigan
3) Abdul Carter- Edge- Penn State
4) Malaki Starks- S- Georgia
5) Tetairoa McMillan- WR- Arizona
6) Ashton Jeanty- RB- Boise State
7) Jalon Walker- LB- Georgia
'8) Mykel Williams- Edge- Georgia
9) Mason Graham- DT- Michigan
10) Luther Burden III- WR- Missouri
11) Will Campbell- OT- LSU
12) James Pearce Jr- Edge- Tennessee
13) Colston Loveland- TE- Michigan
14) Derrick Harmon- DT- Oregon
15) Shemar Stewart- Edge- Texas A&M
16) Cam Ward- QB- Miami
17) Nic Scourton- Edge- Texas A&M
18) Kelvin Banks Jr- OT- Texas
19) Tyleik Williams- DT- Ohio State
20) Walter Nolen- DT- Ole Miss
21) Shavon Revel Jr- CB- East Carolina
22) Jalen Milroe- QB- Alabama
23) Shedeur Sanders- QB- Colorado
24) JT Tuimoloau- Edge- Ohio State
25) Kenneth Grant- DT- Michigan
26) Tyler Warren- TE- Penn State
27) Cameron Williams- OT- Texas
28) Eric Ayomanor- WR- Stanford
29) Josh Simmons- OT- Ohio State
30) Garrett Nussmeier- QB- LSU
31) Landon Jackson- Edge- Arkansas
32) Jonah Savaiinaea- IOL- Arizona
33) Josh Conerly Jr- OT- Oregon
34) Deone Walker- DT- Kentucky
35) Emeka Egbuka- WR- Ohio State
36) Evan Stewart- WR- Oregon
37) Mike Green- Edge- Marshall
38) Maxwell Hairston- CB- Kentucky
39) Kaleb Johnson- RB- Iowa
40) Omarion Hampton- RB- North Carolina
41) Nick Emmanwori- S- South Carolina
42) Wyatt Milum- IOL- West Virginia
43) Jack Swayer- Edge- Ohio State
44) Tyler Booker- IOL- Alabama
45) Isaiah Bond- WR- Texas
46) Aireontae Ersery- OT- Minnesota
47) Grey Zabel- IOL- North Dakota State
48) Kyle Kennard- Edge- South Carolina
49) Mason Taylor- TE- LSU
50) Jihaad Campbell- LB- Alabama

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5910260/2024/11/12/nfl-draft-2025-prospect-rankings-dane-brugler/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twhq&source=twitterhq

His "next twenty" by position

 

Drew Allar- QB- Penn State

Quinn Ewers- QB- Texas

TreVeyon Henderson- RB- Ohio State

Quinshon Judkins- RB- Ohio State

Tre Harris- WR- Ole Miss

Elijah Arroyo- TE- Miami

Harold Fannin Jr- TE- Bowling Green

Charles Grant- OT- William and Mary

Marcus Mbow- OT/G- Purdue

Parker Brailsford- C- Alabama

Donovan Ezieruaku- Edge- Boston College

Princely Umanmielen- Edge- Ole Miss

Jordan Burch- Edge- Oregon

LT Overton- DT- Alabama

Shemar Turner- DT- Texas A&M

TJ Sanders- DT- South Carolina

Danny Stutsman- LB- Oklahoma

Harold Perkins- LB- LSU

 

He also mentioned on the pod that he likes Alfred Collins

[westexhorn 2020]

A&M's Dline is salty with 2 1st rounders

[tx 3 putt 77032]

ut players need to finish strong 

[kevwun 15797]

So where is Barron gonna get drafted?  Not sure what more you want in a db.  He's good in coverage, a really good tackler and has a nose for the ball.  I don't really ever remember seeing a predicted round for him.

Edited November 16 by kevwun

[Fud 9552]

It's Matt Miller, but..

1) Trade- NYG- Shedeur Sanders
2) Cleveland- Travis Hunter
3) Trade- Jacksonville- Kelvin Banks Jr
4) Las Vegas- Cam Ward
5) Tennessee- Luther Burden III
6) New England- Will Johnson
7) NYJ- Abdul Carter
'8) Carolina- Tetairoa McMillan
9) Dallas- Mason Graham
10) Cincinnati- Mykel Williams
11) New Orleans- Jalon Walker
12) Chicago- Derrick Harmon
13) Miami- Shemar Stewart
14) Tampa Bay- James Pearce Jr
15) Indianapolis- Malaki Starks
16) San Francisco- Cam Williams
17) Seattle- Will Campbell
18) LAR- Carson Beck
19) Denver- Aireontae Ersery
20) Atlanta- Nic Scourton
21) Arizona- Isaiah Bond
22) Washington- Benjamin Morrison
23) Houston- Ashton Jeanty (lol)
24) Baltimore- Shavon Revel Jr
25) LAC- Colston Loveland
26) Green Bay- Jahdae Barron
27) Philadelphia- Barrett Carter
28) Pittsburgh- Jalen Milroe
29) Minnesota- Walter Nolen
30) Buffalo- Tyleik Williams
31) Detroit- Jonah Savaiinaea
32) Kansas City- Josh Simmons

 

On 11/16/2024 at 3:14 PM, kevwun said:

So where is Barron gonna get drafted?  Not sure what more you want in a db.  He's good in coverage, a really good tackler and has a nose for the ball.  I don't really ever remember seeing a predicted round for him.

I'm guessing second around, maybe third 

[kevwun 15797]

That seems reasonable.  Coming back will have worked out very nicely for him.

[closetojumping 62745]

Travis Hunter isn't the best CB or the best WR in this cycle. Why would anyone draft him in the top 10 with his frail frame and overuse heading into the league? 

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15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Travis Hunter isn't the best CB or the best WR in this cycle. Why would anyone draft him in the top 10 with his frail frame and overuse heading into the league? 

If he signs off on focusing on CB, I think he's worth a top ten pick. If he's stuck on wanting to play both ways, then pass. If he wants to focus on WR, I'd probably look at him later in the first round. 

He's a freaky athlete with excellent cornerback instincts and skills. He gets beat from time to time, but he also frequently makes game changing plays 

[Teamdirtyleg 1060]

27 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Travis Hunter isn't the best CB or the best WR in this cycle. Why would anyone draft him in the top 10 with his frail frame and overuse heading into the league? 

Shhhhhh!  Don't sell him so hard to Jerry Jones