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2 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Will Kelvin be able to play OT in the NFL??

I've seen different draft discussions mention possibly moving him to guard which moves him down in the 1st Rd of the draft... 

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The Yahoo Sports draft guy seems to have a hard on about it. Mentions it every single version of his mock draft. 
 

Is it just unique to Yahoo? 

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On 1/5/2025 at 8:53 AM, Wulaw Horn said:

Last crack before the end of the season on guys who I think could get drafted. 
 

should/be very surprised if not:

Quinn, Bond, Golden, Banks, Williams, Majors, Helm, Collins, Broughton, Sorrell, Barron, Makuba. Thats 12. I set the over under at 12.5. Predicting 11 from this group 
 

maybe (either because might not come out or if come out maybe not drafted):

Taaffe, Campbell, Moore, Blue - give me 2 from this group (but hope it’s 0).  All 4 of these guys will make an nfl roster someday I believe- but 2025 gets a good head start if they are all back in Austin  

 

probably not- but it only takes one:

Bolden, Connor, Gbenda, Holmes  

guys who I’d be shocked if they left (and are eligible to leave) but I bet will play in the NFL someday: Burke, Guilbeau, Auburn (just kidding/ still pissed)

give me 1 from this group- 

14 total- final guess before seeing who actually declares   

Deadline is 15th if we lose- January 24th if we win. 

Norton?

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1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The Yahoo Sports draft guy seems to have a hard on about it. Mentions it every single version of his mock draft. 
 

Is it just unique to Yahoo? 

Some think his arms are too short for a tackle in the NFL and may be a better fit at guard. He's still projected as a tackle in most mocks I've seen.

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Longhorn decisions on draft entry and protal entry both due on Wednesday.

Confirmed Draft as of 1/13:

Quinn, Banks, Blue, Golden, Bond,  

Gone but not official:  Williams, Savea (transfer)

Leaning to coming back:  Taaffe, Moore

Checking on his draft stock still (before coming back if he listens at all): DJ Campbell.

Exhausted Eligibility:  Helm, Davis, Majors, Broughton, Collins, Lole, Norton, Gbenda, Blackwell, Makuba, Barron, Sorrell, Holmes, Bolden, Connor

 

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Just now, cmontexas said:

If Im the Giants. I pray for Abdul Carter to make it to 3 and then sign Darnold for 2 year or 3 year guarantee and if he sucks then maybe there will be another QB in the draft 2 years from now

lol wut. The Giants already put a ton of capital into DE with Burns and Thibodeaux, and there's no reason to expect Darnold to be available. The Vikings will either sign him to a short term deal or franchise tag him. 

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1 minute ago, Burt Macklin said:

lol wut. The Giants already put a ton of capital into DE with Burns and Thibodeaux, and there's no reason to expect Darnold to be available. The Vikings will either sign him to a short term deal or franchise tag him. 

Carter is the best player in the draft

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Bond officially going pro. Like that the same way I like Blue going pro. Rather they get drafted as Longhorns for recruiting/portal thread than go somewhere else and have a big season and make it look bad for us.  That guy really torched his status on the way out the door. The anti-Golden. 

Decisions left (and my guess)

Williams (gone- too much money to pass up)

Campbell (back- I kept saying look for him to go, and that was the direction he was leaning apparently, but I think the tape is likely catching up with him at a non-elite position of guard instead of tackle)

Taaffe (back- hometown hero- this is his passion- can still get better if he adds 10 pounds between here and coming out)

Moore (gone- but maybe that's just pessimism- Gerry/Bobby are saying back as is IT- but they'd all had him gone I think for the last month)

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On 1/13/2025 at 9:56 AM, Wulaw Horn said:

Longhorn decisions on draft entry and protal entry both due on Wednesday.

Confirmed Draft as of 1/13:

Quinn, Banks, Blue, Golden, Bond,  

Gone but not official:  Williams, Savea (transfer)

Leaning to coming back:  Taaffe, Moore

Checking on his draft stock still (before coming back if he listens at all): DJ Campbell.

Exhausted Eligibility:  Helm, Davis, Majors, Broughton, Collins, Lole, Norton, Gbenda, Blackwell, Makuba, Barron, Sorrell, Holmes, Bolden, Connor

 

Quinn is confirmed?

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13 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Not sure why some of you are so down on Matt.  I see no weaknesses in his game. 

What are his traits that are elite?  Hard to be the top WR in your class without size, twitch, elite cutting ability, something?  I’m not down on him at all. I just don’t see him as a first round type. 

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4 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

What are his traits that are elite?  Hard to be the top WR in your class without size, twitch, elite cutting ability, something?  I’m not down on him at all. I just don’t see him as a first round type. 

Are his hands elite? I don't recall any/many drops. I feel like that's something that isn't valued in the draft though. 

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9 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

What are his traits that are elite?  Hard to be the top WR in your class without size, twitch, elite cutting ability, something?  I’m not down on him at all. I just don’t see him as a first round type. 

 

4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Are his hands elite? I don't recall any/many drops. I feel like that's something that isn't valued in the draft though. 

 

3 minutes ago, kevwun said:

If he gets 2 hands on the ball, it is just about a guaranteed catch.

What CTJ and Kev said.  Also seems to be drama free.  While he's not huge, he's certainly not smallish.  I think he'll run a 4.5-4.6 which is plenty fast.  Speed at the position is a bit overrated.  I think it was asshat Michael Irvin that pointed out that at one point there wasn't a HOF wide receiver that ran a 4.4 or below.  

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14 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Are his hands elite? I don't recall any/many drops. I feel like that's something that isn't valued in the draft though. 

Maybe?  I remember a couple drops, 1 particularly against Clemson on 4th down but that stands out as completely an anomaly. His hands are plenty good. That strikes me as day two not day 1 but this is a weak receiver class so, who knows?  I’d be super happy to see him be a first rounder. 

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6 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Maybe?  I remember a couple drops, 1 particularly against Clemson on 4th down but that stands out as completely an anomaly. His hands are plenty good. That strikes me as day two not day 1 but this is a weak receiver class so, who knows?  I’d be super happy to see him be a first rounder. 

Pretty sure that pass was on Quinn (assuming we are talking about the same 4th down).

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1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

What CTJ and Kev said.  Also seems to be drama free.  While he's not huge, he's certainly not smallish.  I think he'll run a 4.5-4.6 which is plenty fast.  Speed at the position is a bit overrated.  I think it was asshat Michael Irvin that pointed out that at one point there wasn't a HOF wide receiver that ran a 4.4 or below.  

Golden has excellent body control as well. 

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1 hour ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Pretty sure that pass was on Quinn (assuming we are talking about the same 4th down).

IT wasn't a great pass and was a bit behind him. It hit both hands and absolutely should have been a catch.  He had another one he should have caught I thought. He got both hands on what would have been a very good catch (was a great throw) in the SEC title game from Quinn.  I'd say his hands are like A-, top 90th percentile- not A+.  That's not a knock. That's literally everything about him- all his traits (size, speed, twitch, athleticism, route running, hands) are good to great but not super elite. I don't know how much the NFL will value that. I'd be very pleasantly surprised if they value that as "First receiver off the board" value. 
When I think of elite with those traits I think Worthy for speed and route running, Duvernay for hands, Collin Johnson or Roy Williams for size, stuff like that. Not sure what his calling card in that is.  I guess well above average at everything is a legit calling card but how high does that take you? WE will see in 3 months.  Rooting for it. 

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

Golden needs to throw down a 4.4 at the combine or pro day then he'll have a shot at being a first day pick IMHO.

Yep. 

56 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Golden has excellent body control as well. 

True

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On 1/13/2025 at 1:24 PM, Burt Macklin said:

lol wut. The Giants already put a ton of capital into DE with Burns and Thibodeaux, and there's no reason to expect Darnold to be available. The Vikings will either sign him to a short term deal or franchise tag him. 

Franchise tag is going to be around $45MM for QBs this year; I doubt the Vikings are gonna shell that out for the guy they saw the last two games of the season, especially having used their first rounder on a QB last year. Fucked up as it would be, I could see them bringing back Kirk Cousins at the league minimum, given that he’s going to be getting like $50MM from the Falcons.

Agree the Giants aren’t going to invest in DE; given the state of this QB draft and all the holes the have, they’d be better off dropping down..

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35 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

IT wasn't a great pass and was a bit behind him. It hit both hands and absolutely should have been a catch.  He had another one he should have caught I thought. He got both hands on what would have been a very good catch (was a great throw) in the SEC title game from Quinn.  I'd say his hands are like A-, top 90th percentile- not A+.  That's not a knock. That's literally everything about him- all his traits (size, speed, twitch, athleticism, route running, hands) are good to great but not super elite. I don't know how much the NFL will value that. I'd be very pleasantly surprised if they value that as "First receiver off the board" value. 
When I think of elite with those traits I think Worthy for speed and route running, Duvernay for hands, Collin Johnson or Roy Williams for size, stuff like that. Not sure what his calling card in that is.  I guess well above average at everything is a legit calling card but how high does that take you? WE will see in 3 months.  Rooting for it. 

Yep. 

True

I think Roy Williams was only 6'2".  I know we claimed 6'4" at some point.  I don't doubt that physically Roy is well beyond Matt though.  

 

You're right, nothing really stands out about Matt.  He's average to +++ on quite a few things, but he just seems to be an excellent receiver that gets open. For a great route runner, Worthy seemed to have many moments where he's 5 yards from where the ball landed.  Maybe that's a Quinn thing?

 

I think Matt will be a much better than Dev-Duv in the NFL.

6 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Franchise tag is going to be around $45MM for QBs this year; I doubt the Vikings are gonna shell that out for the guy they saw the last two games of the season, especially having used their first rounder on a QB last year. Fucked up as it would be, I could see them bringing back Kirk Cousins at the league minimum, given that he’s going to be getting like $50MM from the Falcons.

Agree the Giants aren’t going to invest in DE; given the state of this QB draft and all the holes the have, they’d be better off dropping down..

He'll get Baker Mayfield type money.

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Quinn goes number 1 overall
 
Round 1 - Ewers, Blue, Bond, Banks
Round 2 - Collins, Barron
Round 3 - Majors, Golden
Round 4 - Sorrell, Mukuba, Helm
Round 5 - Blackwell
Round 6 - Holmes
 
I think most of the juniors will come back for another year. One of the myriad transfer DL probably gets drafted as well.

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Spoiler

1. Tennessee Titans: Cam Ward, QB, Miami

2. Cleveland Browns: Abdul Carter, Edge, Penn State

3. New York Giants: Travis Hunter, CB/WR, Colorado

4. New England Patriots: Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona

5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Will Johnson, CB, Michigan

6. Las Vegas Raiders: Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado

7. New York Jets: Mason Graham, DT, Michigan

8. Carolina Panthers: Jalon Walker, Edge, Georgia

9. New Orleans Saints: Malaki Starks, S, Georgia

10. Chicago Bears: Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio State

11. San Francisco 49ers: Armand Membou, OT/G, Missouri

12. Dallas Cowboys: Luther Burden III, WR, Missouri

13. Miami Dolphins: Will Campbell, OT/G, LSU

14. Indianapolis Colts: Tyler Warren, TE, Penn State

15. Atlanta Falcons: Shemar Stewart, DL, Texas A&M

16. Arizona Cardinals: Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon

17. Cincinnati Bengals: Mykel Williams, Edge, Georgia

18. Seattle Seahawks: Kelvin Banks Jr., OT/G, Texas

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: James Pearce Jr., Edge, Tennessee

20. Denver Broncos: Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State

21. Pittsburgh Steelers: Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State

22. Los Angeles Chargers: Colston Loveland, TE, Michigan

23. Green Bay Packers: Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State

24. Minnesota Vikings: Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa

25. Houston Texans: Tyler Booker, G, Alabama

26. Los Angeles Rams: Josh Conerly Jr., OT, Oregon

27. Washington Commanders: Mike Green, Edge, Marshall

28. Baltimore Ravens: Donovan Jackson, OT/G, Ohio State

29. Buffalo Bills: Shavon Revel Jr., CB, East Carolina

30. Philadelphia Eagles: JT Tuimoloau, Edge, Ohio State

31. Kansas City Chiefs: Kenneth Grant, DT, Michigan

32. Detroit Lions: Nic Scourton, Edge, Texas A&M

33. Cleveland Browns: Aireontae Ersery, OT, Minnesota
34. New York Giants: Jalen Milroe, QB, Alabama
35. Tennessee Titans: Jack Sawyer, Edge, Ohio State
36. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jonah Savaiinaea, G, Arizona
37. Las Vegas Raiders: Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina
38. New England Patriots: Cameron Williams, OT, Texas
39. Chicago (from CAR): Wyatt Milum, G/C, West Virginia
40. New Orleans Saints: Matthew Golden, WR, Texas
41. Chicago Bears: Landon Jackson, Edge, Arkansas
42. New York Jets: Nick Emmanwori, S, South Carolina
43. San Francisco 49ers: Walter Nolen, DT, Ole Miss
44. Dallas Cowboys: TreVeyon Henderson, RB, Ohio State
45. Indianapolis Colts: Azareye’h Thomas, CB, Florida State
46. Atlanta Falcons: Jahdae Barron, CB, Texas
47. Arizona Cardinals: Princely Umanmielen, Edge, Ole Miss
48. Miami Dolphins: Harold Fannin Jr., TE, Bowling Green
49. Cincinnati Bengals: Marcus Mbow, OT/G, Purdue
50. Seattle Seahawks: Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky
51. Denver Broncos: Mason Taylor, TE, LSU
52. Pittsburgh Steelers: Maxwell Hairston, CB, Kentucky
53. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Carson Schwesinger, LB, UCLA
54. Green Bay Packers: Jordan Burch, Edge, Oregon
55. Los Angeles Chargers: Josaiah Stewart, Edge, Michigan
56. Buffalo Bills (from MIN): Donovan Ezeiruaku, Edge, Boston College
57. Carolina (from LAR): Alfred Collins, DT, Texas
58. Houston Texans: Tre Harris, WR, Ole Miss
59. Baltimore Ravens: Jihaad Campbell, LB/Edge, Alabama
60. Washington Commanders: Elic Ayomanor, WR, Stanford
61. Buffalo Bills: Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame
62. Philadelphia Eagles: Grey Zabel, G/C, North Dakota State
63. Kansas City Chiefs: Jayden Higgins, WR, Iowa State
64. Detroit Lions: Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame

 

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