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5 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Whatever team takes him, will have possibly 4-5 other guys picked ahead of him already.  Some owner or GM is going to have to walk over and say congrats, you're our 6th take.  Glad to have you on board.  In which case, SS and his dad's best possible response should be Thank you for the opportunity, but we know there's a large chance neither goes that route.  

Seriously, it's drama in the locker room and in the media, no matter where he goes. No doubt about it and Deion is 100% going to make sure and play the race baiting game as much as possible cause that always draws attention like it has so far. 

Its a problem, and it's going to take an idiot owner to want to bring that on to a team. Sigh.. which is why I'm still confident if its anyone, it's Dallas.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

So are mock drafts and Shedeur-enfreude... but here we are.

 

Nobody here is posting cartoons of mock drafts every 5 minutes. 

Posted
Just now, kingkoopa6 said:

If he don’t get drafted. Can he go back to school? 
 

#2 is taken tho. Prolly need a new number. 

They brought this up on NFL Network and said that he could not return. 

Posted
Just now, BurntEyes said:

Seriously, it's drama in the locker room and in the media, no matter where he goes. No doubt about it and Deion is 100% going to make sure and play the race baiting game as much as possible cause that always draws attention like it has so far. 

Its a problem, and it's going to take an idiot owner to want to bring that on to a team. Sigh.. which is why I'm still confident if its anyone, it's Dallas.

I can see Dallas taking him.  Deion and Jerry are close.  Sanders can be a backup

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2 minutes ago, TXUT said:

Sanders is the equivalent of toxic talent in business. A high-performing employee that makes everyone else miserable. They poison the whole team culture. Eventually, you realize that no amount of talent is worth the drama and morale damage they cause. Even the most skilled employee can become a net negative.   NFL management saw this. But the difference here is he is average to maybe above average. Not great. Why would you pay him anything to bring that into your locker room?

Stanford prof/researcher wrote a book about this phenomenon.
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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

If he don’t get drafted. Can he go back to school? 

Gotta assume that's a lawsuit already in the works for somebody out there.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

If he don’t get drafted. Can he go back to school? 
 

#2 is taken tho. Prolly need a new number. 

God, I hope so.  ISU plays CU this year and I would love to see a Jon Heacock defense abuse him

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3 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

Stanford prof/researcher wrote a book about this phenomenon.
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Plenty of assholes in the nfl but most have some self awareness especially at the qb position.  
 

the question is the talent part.  I don’t think sheduer was highly recruited

Posted
20 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

This, he did have 4K yards passing, 37 TD and a 74% completion percentage with a really shitty oline with many 300 yard passing games.  Not a fan of him or his attitude at all though.  

His oline was trash. 

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

Gotta assume that's a lawsuit already in the works for somebody out there.

Gotta assume that's a lawsuit already in the works for somebody out there.

So he goes back to play for dad because he didn't get chosen, and then starts with no qb competition because his dad can't and won't bench him since he wants him to get drafted, no Hunter, and what--excels?  I think the pressure would be even more immense.  

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

If he don’t get drafted. Can he go back to school? 

There's an NCAA rule that says he can't.  But given that the NCAA is 0-for-847,403 in court cases, I'm not sure they'd try to enforce it.  

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

It was me! I said it. And it’s true. I mean come on! 

After next year, of course, since 2026 is in Pittsburgh.  Perhaps they will do it at The Point, which would be a pretty cool location for TV, if the weather is ok.

 

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4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

There's an NCAA rule that says he can't.  But given that the NCAA is 0-for-847,403 in court cases, I'm not sure they'd try to enforce it.  

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14 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

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That's almost entirely footwork and making better reads, both of which are fixed with time and effort. In fact, Ewers is already working on the footwork issue. And as for learning reads -- he's only JUST turned 22. I have no doubt he'll get these all fixed in a year or two.

The only thing he can't fix is how often he gets injured.

If he can stay healthy, I think he's gonna be a great NFL starter.

Basically, Ewers needs lots of improvement and is an injury risk. This is why I'm confident he will be picked up as a QB 2 maybe QB 3. I really do think its best for Ewers and whatever team he may end up at.

I thought he might go low 3rd, I was wrong. Honestly, I think Gabriel is as good a QB2/3 as Ewers, mainly because of fewer bad injuries, better pocket awareness and better long ball. Size is his bad, and he's had a few injuries too. 

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

Basically, Ewers needs lots of improvement and is an injury risk. This is why I'm confident he will be picked up as a QB 2 maybe QB 3. I really do think its best for Ewers and whatever team he may end up at.

I thought he might go low 3rd, I was wrong. Honestly, I think Gabriel is as good a QB2/3 as Ewers, mainly because of fewer bad injuries, better pocket awareness and better long ball. Size is his bad, and he's had a few injuries too. 

But here's the thing: Gabriel and Milroe need MUCH MORE work than Ewers does. FAR more. What they don't have? An injury history like Ewers'. Quinn hasn't had a full healthy season since his Sophomore year in high school. That's the reason, and the ONLY reason, he's dropped this far.

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Posted
1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Basically, Ewers needs lots of improvement and is an injury risk. This is why I'm confident he will be picked up as a QB 2 maybe QB 3. I really do think its best for Ewers and whatever team he may end up at.

I thought he might go low 3rd, I was wrong. Honestly, I think Gabriel is as good a QB2/3 as Ewers, mainly because of fewer bad injuries, better pocket awareness and better long ball. Size is his bad, and he's had a few injuries too. 

He's a good fit for Los Angeles, aside from being a Country kid.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Correction, the risk will be higher with every late round  that he acts like a slighted diva.     

Yeah, but a team can easily cut a 5th or 6th rounder no problem. Happens all the time. Cutting a 1st or 2nd rounder sets the franchise back. It's why no one talks about 5th rounders being "busts"

Sanders will never be a long term backup. He doesn't have the humility, work ethic, and head down team first nature to do it. I think Ewers could be that if he keeps his head on straight the way Colt did and Sam appears to be doing. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

But here's the thing: Gabriel and Milroe need MUCH MORE work than Ewers does. FAR more. What they don't have? An injury history like Ewers'. Quinn hasn't had a full healthy season since his Sophomore year in high school. That's the reason, and the ONLY reason, he's dropped this far.

Gabriel is much more polished (should be, he's several years older) and could step in quickly into a backup role like Penix did in Atlanta. 

Milroe is benefitting from Jalen Hurts. He's big, he's fast, he's strong, he throws a great deep ball. I doubt he has the mental side that Hurts has, but a team will always fall for measurables. 

Ewers has poor measurables, an ok arm, is always injured, and can't move well. That's just a disastrous recipe for the NFL. 

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

The cheese stuff is dumb. Take a hint. 

The cheese stuff is super dumb. So is the amount of time and attention that people pay in reading / preparing mock drafts, reading instant draft analysis, then giving draft grades when the large majority of impacts won't be known for several years. So it's a perfect match.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

When you declare for the draft you forgo any remaining eligibility you have. It's a player decision to do that, not NCAA.

 undrafted basketball players have a path to returning to college. 

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I know the internet gonna crazy saying it’s a smear job but if SS had his dad’s talent he goes before tonite in the draft. 
 

it reminds me of how people lost their shit about Dwayne Haskins (RIP) he fell to the 15th pick in the first round. We know it didn’t pan out. And he didn’t fall like SS but you’d have thought the internet would lose their shit, 

most teams don’t need a QB that bad that they want a headcase when they can roll with a backup or grab someone in FA. 

some of the shit people are writing about this huge conspiracy have lost they minds. His interviews must have been an eye opening shitshow. Should have respected the process and he’d have been off the board by now. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

But here's the thing: Gabriel and Milroe need MUCH MORE work than Ewers does. FAR more. What they don't have? An injury history like Ewers'. Quinn hasn't had a full healthy season since his Sophomore year in high school. That's the reason, and the ONLY reason, he's dropped this far.

Ewers is small, had a soso arm and is turnover prone

Posted
10 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

 

Milroe is benefitting from Jalen Hurts. He's big, he's fast, he's strong, he throws a great deep ball. I doubt he has the mental side that Hurts has, but a team will always fall for measurables. 

 

people said the same about jackson and maaaaaany other black qbs, worked out pretty good for jackson

milroe has a high ceiling. looked pretty good in SEC play for two years 

 

Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

football isn't basketball

But it's a collegiate sport so that could be a basis of a lawsuit.

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Just now, Nicole44 said:

I know the internet gonna crazy saying it’s a smear job but if SS had his dad’s talent he goes before tonite in the draft. 
 

it reminds me of how people lost their shit about Dwayne Haskins (RIP) he fell to the 15th pick in the first round. We know it didn’t pan out. And he didn’t fall like SS but you’d have thought the internet would lose their shit, 

most teams don’t need a QB that bad that they want a headcase when they can roll with a backup or grab someone in FA. 

some of the shit people are writing about this huge conspiracy have lost they minds. His interviews must have been an eye opening shitshow. Should have respected the process and he’d have been off the board by now. 

Haskins was a physical beast compared to sanders

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Posted
2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

No CR, but after his earlier tweet, there is a non-zero chance that Trumps launches an investigation against the NFL for collusion?  

i fully expect the FBI to arrest an NFL GM any day now

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Posted
Just now, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Haskins was a physical beast compared to sanders

Yes but the internet went nuts accusing all teams that passed on him as being crazy and racist and well sadly they were right about their concerns and that’s why he didn’t get a top ten pick. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Just because it's a rule doesn't mean it's legally binding.  I think if this were taken to trial, the athlete would win the case.  With NIL it's a right to work issue.

Posted
1 minute ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Ewers is small, had a soso arm and is turnover prone

 

poor leadership skills 

he was an idiot not looking for another school and fielding offers for the upcoming season. just horrible advice.

nil for a qb should be better than 4th / 5th round money, and you have a shot at improving your draft stock 

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Just now, DixonHur said:

Just because it's a rule doesn't mean it's legally binding.  I think if this were taken to trial, the athlete would win the case.  With NIL it's a right to work issue.

I think yall are retarded as the idiots on ESPN for how they're treating this.

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1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

poor leadership skills 

he was an idiot not looking for another school and fielding offers for the upcoming season. just horrible advice.

nil for a qb should be better than 4th / 5th round money, and you have a shot at improving your draft stock 

Improve by going to a team without 20+ guys headed to the combine?

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