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9 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

But it's a collegiate sport so that could be a basis of a lawsuit.

ncaa wouldn't push back to hard.

they are a multi billion dollar tax free org, who gives a shit if 40ish undrafted players try to come back. no guarantees they'd get any interest, and good look getting nil money. a school would be giving them a break 

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Sanders isn’t good enough to be someone’s #1, and he’s too immature to be a #2. The last fucking thing any NFL franchise wants is their backup/developmental QB rocking the boat in any way. 

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I swear to god it feels like some of these talking heads on ESPN and NFL Network may start crying at any moment. Mel Kiper Jr might go on a fucking hunger strike until Sanders is drafted.

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A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 

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Just now, MrX said:

A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 

 

nfl is serving him humble pie 

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38 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

But here's the thing: Gabriel and Milroe need MUCH MORE work than Ewers does. FAR more. What they don't have? An injury history like Ewers'. Quinn hasn't had a full healthy season since his Sophomore year in high school. That's the reason, and the ONLY reason, he's dropped this far.

No it isn't and your assessment of talent is clearly biased and doesn't to this point and I'm confident won't match the NFL's. 

Milroe is far more athletic, has long ball ability (lacks less than Quinn) and mobile and hasn't been injured. Can't teach that.

Gabriel has a better read ability, long ball and pocket presence with a better health history. 

Milroe was already taken. 

The rest will play out. 

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But here's the thing: Gabriel and Milroe need MUCH MORE work than Ewers does. FAR more. What they don't have? An injury history like Ewers'. Quinn hasn't had a full healthy season since his Sophomore year in high school. That's the reason, and the ONLY reason, he's dropped this far.

The only reason? Do you watch Texas football games?
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4 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

No it isn't and your assessment of talent is clearly biased and doesn't to this point and I'm confident won't match the NFL's. 

Milroe is far more athletic, has long ball ability (lacks less than Quinn) and mobile and hasn't been injured. Can't teach that.

Gabriel has a better read ability, long ball and pocket presence with a better health history. 

Milroe was already taken. 

The rest will play out. 

 

isn't gabriel 28 ?

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9 minutes ago, MrX said:

A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 

You vastly over rate his talent. 

You vastly underrated the bullshit that come with having a poison on your team.

You neglected to point out Sanders has never owned his issues, zero accountability and throws his own coaches and teammates under the bus.

Dont account for the reality that he's played for 1, SINGLE head coach his entire adult career. That's helicopter parenting above and beyond anything we have EVER seen before.

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1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

Shough being drafted in the 2nd is hilarious.  That guy will be fired in 2 years…

 

it's amazing that a blind person is in the nfl 

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1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

Yes. Did you watch Gabriel and Milroe's games?

Gabriel is a much better QB than Quinn. Milroe is a much better athlete than Quinn. Both throw better deep than Quinn. NFL games aren’t won with 10 yards and fewer passes. 

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47 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

The cheese stuff is super dumb. So is the amount of time and attention that people pay in reading / preparing mock drafts, reading instant draft analysis, then giving draft grades when the large majority of impacts won't be known for several years. So it's a perfect match.

What the fuck does that have to do with the stupid cartoons being posted? You don’t have to watch the draft or even participate in the thread. But we have to see these dumb cheese things?

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Some GMs can be really fucking stupid (I'm looking at YOU Jerrah), but truly, I'd rather have Gabriel, Mertz or Ewers riding pine in Dallas than Sanders. All day, every day. 

Which is why Jerrah will probably draft him late.

After Deion kicks back some of that $50M he got from Jerrah back in the day.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Daddy bribed some team to draft him. Maybe with a promise of a scholarship for someone's kid.

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10 minutes ago, Modessit said:

After Deion kicks back some of that $50M he got from Jerrah back in the day.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Daddy bribed some team to draft him. Maybe with a promise of a scholarship for someone's kid.

Jerrah might completely over look the drama it would cause and view it rather as attention. Cause all attention is good attention and sells tickets. 

No matter the fucking shit storm and damage... hurricanes sell. 

So... I sadly can't picture Sanders ending up anywhere else. 

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32 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

What the fuck does that have to do with the stupid cartoons being posted? You don’t have to watch the draft or even participate in the thread. But we have to see these dumb cheese things?

I'll never understand people that go into threads they hate to post how stupid and pointless those threads are and that nobody should post in them. Is there anything more pointless?

Isn't it ironic, don't you think?

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17 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Jalen Milroe flips a coin before every game. On heads, he comes out wearing a crown of lightning and all tremble before him. On tails, he plays like a golden retriever staring at a nuclear bomb blueprint.

Repost because some of y'all seem to have forgotten this.

Now, think about the fact that Sanders is worse. Look at his completion percentage over 20 yds. It sucks. Now ask yourself if you can remember if he ever took responsibility for a loss, a bad decision, or anything ever. Now ask yourself what did he say in the interviews he did decide to attend that was so off-putting that those teams won't touch him. Add all that together and here we are. Ignore Kiper. Ignore anything and anyone that omits or glosses over the above known conditions. Completion percentage isn't the only stat that matters. He's not that great. He's not really even very good. He padded his stats and he was coddled his entire life. He cannot abide criticism. Milroe's team didn't want him back. Now ask yourself if he was that bad how much worse is Sanders if Milroe went before him. There's no conspiracy. They aren't overlooking anything. He's a big bunch of suck and he's fucking radioactive. 

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47 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Shough being drafted in the 2nd is hilarious.  That guy will be fired in 2 years…

or broken in half.

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3 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Repost because some of y'all seem to have forgotten this.

Now, think about the fact that Sanders is worse. Look at his completion percentage over 20 yds. It sucks. Now ask yourself if you can remember if he ever took responsibility for a loss, a bad decision, or anything ever. Now ask yourself what did he say in the interviews he did decide to attend that was so off-putting that those teams won't touch him. Add all that together and here we are. Ignore Kiper. Ignore anything and anyone that omits or glosses over the above known conditions. Completion percentage isn't the only stat that matters. He's not that great. He's not really even very good. He padded his stats and he was coddled his entire life. He cannot abide criticism. Milroe's team didn't want him back. Now ask yourself if he was that bad how much worse is Sanders if Milroe went before him. There's no conspiracy. They aren't overlooking anything. He's a big bunch of suck and he's fucking radioactive. 

Rep for "golden retriever staring at a nuclear bomb blueprint".

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1 hour ago, MrX said:

A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 

This is not a good take.

Shedeur Sanders was not a very good and certainly not great college QB. He gamed the stats by holding on to the ball forever, ignoring positive plays for his offense in search of highlights, and only throwing once a receiver was already open. His high completion percentage wasn't a positive, it was a result of his game-losing strategy. Here is one of the early and glaring examples of this from this past season. He had just thrown an absolutely terrible pick 6 from his own end zone to give Nebraska a 14-0 lead. The stadium was rocking, the defense was amped up, and they needed something positive. The RT is shook and totally blows his blocking assignment but Sanders escapes, great job Shedeur. Now you have a chance to quiet settle your team down a bit and set them up with a nice and easy 2nd and 1 or get a first down. All you have to do is throw to the wide open guy right in front of your face. What's that? You'd rather ignore him and look 30 yards downfield for a highlight reel play?

Sorry, you're gonna get run down from behind by a Nebraska LB. So now it's 2nd and 15 instead of 2nd and 1. Good thing the NFL won't have any linebackers who can run you down.

20:50 mark

Shedeur Sanders had a bad OL. Shedeur Sanders made that bad OL look even worse than they were because he loved to make game-losing plays.

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15 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Fucking all of this 

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I have waffled between saying-

“No way would I draft Shedeur.” (January)

…and saying-

“I wouldn’t draft him before the 3rd round.” (Thursday)

But now I am back on record as saying…

”No way would I draft Shedeur.” (Tonight)

 

Drafting Shedeur would be worse than drafting a mediocre one of Lavar Ball’s sons if Lavar had Charles Barkley’s platform and a much more vicious demeanor.

100% NOT WORTH IT !!

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3 hours ago, Da Fino said:

What the fuck does that have to do with the stupid cartoons being posted? You don’t have to watch the draft or even participate in the thread. But we have to see these dumb cheese things?

Why do you care if someone posts those? Maybe ignore them? 

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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

I'll never understand people that go into threads they hate to post how stupid and pointless those threads are and that nobody should post in them. Is there anything more pointless?

Isn't it ironic, don't you think?

This 100%. 

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Yikes I have not watched the draft, but hoo boy this Sanders deal is going to be interesting when he’s finally taken. The Raiders seem like the kind of team he should be on, but wouldn’t shock me if Dallas took him.

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29 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

Yikes I have not watched the draft, but hoo boy this Sanders deal is going to be interesting when he’s finally taken. The Raiders seem like the kind of team he should be on, but wouldn’t shock me if Dallas took him.

When or if?

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11 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

When or if?

Doesn’t matter. Someone will take him. He’s good. Not great, but good and that should be enough in a league that has a shortage of even average talent at that position. Set aside the outside noise that will eventually die down and you have someone who will be a QB in this league.

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6 hours ago, MrX said:

A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 


I have a friend in the Bears organization that told me the story going around about Sanders is during an interview with a team, he asked them why he should play for their organization. Effectively demanding the team sell him on their franchise. It was do off putting that most teams simply removed him off their draft board entirely. 

The perception on Sanders is that he is so entitled that no one believes he will do the work and be patient enough to be an NFL QB. I’m sure his father retiring his jersey just played into that perception. Someone will take him but only as a flyer to see if he comes is without that entitlement. 

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