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8 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Well to be more clear it was not that they cared about sending the Russian Jews to a new state, it was that the war was over and they could now interfere with the British Empire and its interests in the post-war world. Unintended consequences and whatnot is what we now see. The outside world interfering in something they had no business in doing has led to more innocent bloodshed. It rekindled the millennia old issue of two peoples living together that have issues with one another that have transcended generations. I find the whole thing tragic and think the Jews should have been resettled anywhere but there after the war’s conclusion.

I come from Jews on my mom’s side (her father) and one thing I have learned is that Jewish people have a lengthy memory. Go check out Sputh Dallas now if you want to see that as the Jews want their old neighborhood back there as well. It’s not surprising that they have not done anything in regard to Russia and it can be tied back to this. 

Understand. probably better for another thread. But I am talking post collapse of USSR. So 1990's up to 2015ish. That is the group that interests me now.

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11 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Understand. probably better for another thread. But I am talking post collapse of USSR. So 1990's up to 2015ish. That is the group that interests me now.

Gotcha. The Wild West era in Russia. So much to unpack and I would yield to you on this as I have never devoted serious amounts of time to this part of Russian history. 

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On 9/20/2024 at 1:42 AM, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Some good protestor screams on this one @4:40

 

 

 

All those white suburban kids protesting just to protest and hopping the turn style, and the one woman dressed in traditional full body clothing of traditional Islam is the only one to pay for the subway entrance.

While I might not agree with her position I would definitely listen and respect her right to speak (which ironically isn’t the case in deeply traditional Muslim countries).    Those other pretend protestors however should be arrested and expelled from school and sent home to wine to mommy and daddy. 

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On 9/16/2024 at 7:00 AM, UpperWestside said:

Well to be more clear it was not that they cared about sending the Russian Jews to a new state, it was that the war was over and they could now interfere with the British Empire and its interests in the post-war world. Unintended consequences and whatnot is what we now see. The outside world interfering in something they had no business in doing has led to more innocent bloodshed. It rekindled the millennia old issue of two peoples living together that have issues with one another that have transcended generations. I find the whole thing tragic and think the Jews should have been resettled anywhere but there after the war’s conclusion.

I come from Jews on my mom’s side (her father) and one thing I have learned is that Jewish people have a lengthy memory. Go check out Sputh Dallas now if you want to see that as the Jews want their old neighborhood back there as well. It’s not surprising that they have not done anything in regard to Russia and it can be tied back to this. 

The thing is, the Jews were not “resettled” by Western or other powers.  The British made Jewish immigration to Mandatory Palestine illegal throughout the war and afterward and even arrested boatloads of Holocaust survivors arriving in Haifa. The Soviets famously refused to allow Jews to go to Israel (this was a persistent bilateral irritant) as any emigration undermined the regime’s image. Virtually all of the WWII-1948 immigration was illegal and done at a time when Britain was reeling on all fronts and had little capacity to manage migrant flows in the Levant. 
 

In the immediate decade after independence almost as many Arab/Muslim world Jews resettled in Israel as European-origin Jews in one of the great own-goals of Arab nationalism.  Arab governments were so mad at Israel that they expelled their own Jews who immediately went to Israel and made it stronger (and, it should be noted, tend to vote more for Likud and right-wing parties than the so-called “colonizers.”)

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On 9/15/2024 at 4:29 PM, nineliveslost said:

WOW, so Hamas are the angels in all of this. It's all the Jews ( Netanyahu and the IDF) that use human shields. 

and of course, you think that the Jews started this latest fight. SMFH

I don’t read his posts unless quoted and all I have to say to what you responded to 10 days ago is a huge wow. I mean yall are engaging with a nutjob. I’ll probably open that post and neg it. 

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12 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

 

 

11 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Imagine getting so ass blasted in the marketplace of ideas that you end up behaving this way your entire life.

 

 

LOL I scrolled up to see what Rex was referencing.  Imagine marrying into the politics of the region and becoming so ass blasted (pegged) that you turn into a terrorist sympathizer.  I guess we know who wears the hijab in your marriage.  

 

But seriously, it comes down to simple awareness.  Like all the kids in these clips I post, if someone wants to ignore all the history of who the good guys are, and the intentions of the bad guys, and still find themselves gravitating to pro pally viewpoints and outcomes, they may not be as neutral and peace oriented as they like to portray. 

 

That part of the world could use some new blood, and for marrying one of them, you're a hero Fantana.  Now go make lots of pally babies, and move over there so your progeny can grow up and help un-cray the current population.  Happy fucking!

 

 

 

 

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The pro-Palestinian group that sparked the student encampment movement at Columbia University in response to the Israel-Hamas war is becoming more hard-line in its rhetoric, openly supporting militant groups fighting Israel and rescinding an apology it made after one of its members said the school was lucky he wasn’t out killing Zionists.

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaperwith a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!”

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In a series of posts on Substack, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, or CUAD, narrated its own evolution since last semester from an organization that saw itself in April as a “continuation of the Vietnam antiwar movement” focused on pushing Columbia to divest from Israel to one that now openly backs armed resistance by Hamas and other groups.

Citing revolutionary thinkers, like Vladimir Lenin and Frantz Fanon, it explained how solidarity was essential with members of the so-called Axis of Resistance — which includes Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Hamas — because they oppose imperialism.

Since then, the group has praised a Tel Aviv attack by Palestinian militants that killed seven people at a light rail station on Oct. 1, including a mother who died while shielding her 9-month-old baby. It also praised Iran’s missile attack on the Jewish state that began that evening, calling it a “bold move.”

Super cool stuff, and I am sure that the group using Telegram to call for solidarity with Iran is a completely grass-roots and legitimate American organization in no way tied to hostile foreign powers. 

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Didn’t know where to put this in its own thread, here or on the Futbol board. Pogrom of Israelis by Arabs in the streets of Amsterdam after the Maccabi Tel Aviv and Ajax match at the ArenA or racist Jews getting their comeuppance after acting like assholes at the match?

Nasty business all around. I believe Maccabi has one of the most infamous ultras in the world called La Familia renowned for their racism against Arabs.

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7 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Yup. You shouldn't be acting like those Israelis were but you don't need to beat their asses, either. Let the Dutch authorities deal with it.

FAFO.

I mean, you're right, but I can't muster any sympathy for them.  Hooligans of all types suck.

 

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3 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Deleting this post -- I was frustrated by a Reuters article that made no mention of the Israelis' behavior that set this off, but to their credit they've updated the story.

 

1 hour ago, SurlyGator said:

All the headlines I saw when I work up this morning referred to attacks against Israeli soccer fans.  No mention of the hooliganism.  Good to see our media machine is still fair and unbiased.

Some news outlets were calling it a pogrom. Wild shit.

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