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I was in DC Monday and yesterday and drove right past GWU and didn’t see any protesters or problems.  Guess it’s away from the main drag. 

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2 minutes ago, HouTex said:

I was in DC Monday and yesterday and drove right past GWU and didn’t see any protesters or problems.  Guess it’s away from the main drag. 

Or they're ninjas now.

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2 minutes ago, HouTex said:

I was in DC Monday and yesterday and drove right past GWU and didn’t see any protesters or problems.  Guess it’s away from the main drag. 

GWU is an urban campus and I the encampment was off visible areas from the street.  In any case, DC police came and cleared it out today after Congress threatened to make the mayor come testify.  GWU had been asking for police help but the city had demurred to take action. 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

There really doesn't seem to be any kind of centralized leadership with this pro-Palestine movement. A few days ago, a poster raised the question of who's funding the protesters, and another one tracked down an article about some nonprofits raising funds, and a couple of them had ties to some nasty assholes. I wanted to see if the protesters at UT had similar ties to abhorrent shit (good news: I couldn't find any), but what really surprised me was that at UT and around Austin, it looked like there were half a dozen separate organizations. If you scale that up to the whole country and all these universities, there must be hundreds of them. I really think that's playing into how some of the protests aren't making the news because they haven't turned into chaotic circuses while others have. And, honestly, some of that bullshit has been the result of the original response by local authorities and/or campus presidents.

But, yeah, who's the credible leader with impeccable standing and moral authority to lead this protest movement across America? There ain't one, and that's why it's a shitshow.

I don’t know how to tell you this but UT Austin does not need half a dozen student orgs dedicated to Palestine and neither does any campus.  These are not real organizations, they are absolutely fake organizations all tied to about 3 national ones that are astroturfed because having a half dozen looks better on your letterhead and Instagram account. Those same 3-4 real organizations are a mix of the typical hard-left “all roads lead to communism” and mixed in with some genuine “we have to let other people do our banking because of the terrorism.”  
 

That’s not to say a lot of the students aren’t genuine in their stance and protests, but please don’t be so naive to think all this broke out spontaneously and that every college campus has 7 real pro-Palestinian orgs with near identical names. 

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The other reason that they need all these orgs is because once the leadership of New York Slippery Rock chapter of “Students for Palestinian Freedom” gets rolled up for sending chapter dues to Hezbollah or some shit, they just roll right into the already registered “Students for Freedom in Palestine.”  There’s been some real naivety, willful at times, about WTF is going on here. 

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11 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The other reason that they need all these orgs is because once the leadership of New York Slippery Rock chapter of “Students for Palestinian Freedom” gets rolled up for sending chapter dues to Hezbollah or some shit, they just roll right into the already registered “Students for Freedom in Palestine.”  There’s been some real naivety, willful at times, about WTF is going on here. 

This is exactly the bullshit misinformation people are complaining about.  Slippery Rock is in Pennsylvania.

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15 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

H Tine

 

lmfao I clicked on the profile and OF COURSE this dude on twitter is hosting tucker carlson conspiracy memes from russia

seriously dude, where the fuck do you find these people? 8chan?

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The Cougar High thing brought the LULZ.  This is the lamest shit ever.  The cops are doing TikToks. 
 

I repeat that the kids are not bringing the revolution.  They need to read up on Budyonny’s 1st Cavalry Army.  They can’t even do “murderous anti-Semitic pinko revolutionary” correctly. 


 

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14 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Here you go again. 

Are there seriously not enough videos out there to make fun of protestors without resorting to sharing the commentary of--and generating clicks/views for--the dumbest, most abhorrent piece of shit losers on Twitter? Nah?

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3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Are there seriously not enough videos out there to make fun of protestors without resorting to sharing the commentary of--and generating clicks/views for--the dumbest, most abhorrent piece of shit losers on Twitter? Nah?

 

Well honestly, I don't know.  Is there a way to see a video and then search for a clone of that same clip but from a source more palatable to your senses?  Tell me. 

Some people keep repeating the same thing over and over.  You want different sources for clips.  I get it.  You only want the same clips but from a source who has a post history of aligning with your political beliefs.  

I don't have an internal database of acceptable tweet sources.  I'm glad I don't have that internal database.  That sort of thing doesn't serve me.  Does it serve you? 

 

Is it really simply about their clips getting clicks?  That's what's important here?  

 

  

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12 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

Well honestly, I don't know.  Is there a way to see a video and then search for a clone of that same clip but from a source more palatable to your senses?  Tell me. 

Some people keep repeating the same thing over and over.  You want different sources for clips.  I get it.  You only want the same clips but from a source who has a post history of aligning with your political beliefs.  

I don't have an internal database of acceptable tweet sources.  I'm glad I don't have that internal database.  That sort of thing doesn't serve me.  Does it serve you? 

 

Is it really simply about their clips getting clicks?  That's what's important here?  

 

  

Stop talking to me, dude. I don't give a fuck. Just know that no one buys your, "I just post the videos; I have no idea who the source is, and I don't even read their commentary" bullshit. You've been doing this same shit for years and years all across the board. It's tired and played, but you do you. I do realize that this is y'all's Super Bowl being the rare occasion where your fringe circles finally closely aligns with the mainstream opinion.

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28 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Stop talking to me, dude. I don't give a fuck. Just know that no one buys your, "I just post the videos; I have no idea who the source is, and I don't even read their commentary" bullshit. You've been doing this same shit for years and years all across the board. It's tired and played, but you do you. I do realize that this is y'all's Super Bowl being the rare occasion where your fringe circles finally closely aligns with the mainstream opinion.

 

 

I literally just registered at Twitter within the last six months.  Never seen it's content before in my life until then except for places like Surly and occasional news bits, TV,  etc.  I do read the commentary of the individual tweets I post here, but I don't check the source's feed and scroll down to "see who they are" before I post.  

Be glad that Imma and Lab decide to keep tweets available to post, and do not choose to censor some for the purpose of protecting others. 

When you seek equality for all, you will make choices to reflect that internal realization.  Censoring the "bad people" on twitter just for the purpose of protecting you, is not a manifestation of that equality.  I would never think that I had the right to petition the mods so that I didn't have to see things from Twitter accounts I don't like.  I'm so grateful I've evolved beyond it.  The blade cuts both ways.  Be grateful.   

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

I literally just registered at Twitter within the last six months.  Never seen it's content before in my life until then except for places like Surly and occasional news bits, TV,  etc.  I do read the commentary of the individual tweets I post here, but I don't check the source's feed and scroll down to "see who they are" before I post.  

Be glad that Imma and Lab decide to keep tweets available to post, and do not choose to censor some for the purpose of protecting others. 

When you seek equality for all, you will make choices to reflect that internal realization.  Censoring the "bad people" on twitter just for the purpose of protecting you, is not a manifestation of that equality.  I would never think that I had the right to petition the mods so that I didn't have to see things from Twitter accounts I don't like.  I'm so grateful I've evolved beyond it.  The blade cuts both ways.  Be grateful.   

 

 

 

 

 

Don’t listen to the pussies, keep posting. 

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10 hours ago, Bevo said:

There are protesters with all sorts of agendas. There is a very small group of orthodox Jews who don't believe Israel should be a state. There are communist and Marxist Jews who are leading rallies. There are non-Muslim blacks who believe that Jews control the economy. So, just like stereotypes, it is difficult to paint with a broad brush - there are a variety of personalities that compete to develop an overarching picture.

Its the Jewish Larry Elder. Or, as the LA times like to describe, “the black face of white supremacy”

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3 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

There is a very small group of orthodox Jews who don't believe Israel should be a state. 

 

I think there's scripture that states that Jews should always be spread across the land without a unified home.  

 

 

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9 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

These kids are not bringing the Revolution. 
 

 

Well, its only Protest Spring camp right now. 
 

Once theyve gone through summer’s Strength & Conditioning program and get the roster shored up, Fall protests are going to be LIT

9 hours ago, HouTex said:

I was in DC Monday and yesterday and drove right past GWU and didn’t see any protesters or problems.  Guess it’s away from the main drag. 

You have to drive to the county juvie

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4 hours ago, Poester said:

Aggie in his feelings tonight. 

But not *ALL* aggies are in their feelings! You have to separate the feeling aggies from the non feeling aggies !!!!

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34 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Sure. But that’s all Captainant looks for. Ignore and discredit. It’s the tact of partisan hacks, particularly when video is involved. 

It's more that the supermajority of links being bandied about this thread are from accounts that were CERTAIN the 2020 election was STOLLEN and that COVID was fake. Idk about y'all, but I think it's important to know what sort of past reporting and inaccuracies a """citizen journalist"""" has in the same way I think it's important for credentialed journalists to stay accountable to their past reporting. 

It's a big part of why I try to link to journalistic sources and real reporting when available. Does in-the-moment Twitter reporting fill some of that breaking news gap for emergent events? Absolutely. But the folks being linked here aren't at any of the events they're """reporting""" on - they're just stoking the outrage fires to superlative effect. Especially when there's not much new being posted and it's more "RECENTLY UNCOVERED SHOCKING FOOTAGE FROM A WEEK AGO!!!" that frequently misrepresents or overstates what actually happened in the video

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On 5/7/2024 at 1:00 PM, Hank_Hill said:

Bringing police in after laws have been broken is fine yes. Mass show of force before was the issue.

I find the "don't do anything until they break the law" scenario with the "stop them before something bad happens" scenario interesting.

Setting aside the Constitutional arguments for now... 

Consider the hypothetical differences between an engineer and a personal injury attorney; consider everything that might happen and have a contingency plan in place to prevent it, or call Thomas J Henry after the fact because someone did not prevent an eventuality that was conceivable and possible.

Let someone take over the Harry Ransom Center and compromise its contents, or not?

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17 hours ago, bolverk said:

I'm glad you agree we shouldn't paint protesters with a broad brush because it'd be silly to label everyone protesting the war as "pro-Hamas" or "anti-semitic."

I agree. The broad brush is inefficient, is not uniform, and wastes too much paint v. painting them with a spray wand.

17 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

The Hamas aspect is the biggest hitch in the path forward. I'm strongly convinced that descaling fighting without finding a way to remove their influence in Gaza will lead to continued attacks and more Israeli lives lost.

17 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said:

I agree with your take on removing Hamas being the holdup in any peace talks. But I don’t see any round table being taken seriously by Israel. They see them as a deadly cancer they are cutting out. If you leave any, it can quickly resurface. 

The issues with Hamas, including colocating command and control centers under hospitals and schools, is problematic to say the least. 

 "It's like deja vu all over again."

17 hours ago, bolverk said:

I agree with everything you're saying, but not all of the protests are as well organized as you suggest. Some might well be. For instance, the original one at UT on Speedway seemed super efficient and well organized (remember the leaders in yellow vests?). I think that over time, these things start to fall apart as bad actors begin to glom onto an issue/movement and cause trouble. It all just gets out of control, which is why I've been saying for a couple of weeks now that these protests have become counterproductive.

I'm all for peaceful protests, but there are huge differences between the mindset of the 1960's and today, and the 1760's and today. A time and place for everything. 

Marching up Speedway? Go on ahead. Setting up camp in front of the Tower with expressed overtures of taking over the building? Not gonna happen. You cannot allow an outside entity to take over the Tower. Period.

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I'm thinking we might need a worldwide Palestinian protest thread.  The number of (clearly of questionable origin 😁) clips coming across my feed from Europe is surprising.  

 

BTW protestors are  gathering in Malmo for the Eurovision contest not to celebrate the competition, but to protest because an Israeli girl is in the finals.  Does Greta think she should have been disqualified?  

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/05/09/eurovision-israel-protests-eden-golan/

 

 

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Fair points all, more misinformed kids as per usual.  I wonder though which passage or verse or testament in the Talmund by an American leader whom was sent by the Lord our God would quote as his favorite.  Or is it like a Michael Bolton situation where he likes them all about the same, I guess? 

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On 5/8/2024 at 9:53 PM, Captainant said:

lmfao I clicked on the profile and OF COURSE this dude on twitter is hosting tucker carlson conspiracy memes from russia

seriously dude, where the fuck do you find these people? 8chan?

He’s one of these people 

15 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Sure. But that’s all Captainant looks for. Ignore and discredit. It’s the tact of partisan hacks, particularly when video is involved. 

*tack

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Book learning is dumb. Everything you need to know you can learn on Twitter.  

Very fine people helpfully turn it into video clips and tell me all I need to know on Twitter!

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9 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

BTW protestors are  gathering in Malmo for the Eurovision contest not to celebrate the competition, but to protest because an Israeli girl is in the finals.  Does Greta think she should have been disqualified? 

 

It's important to remember that most activists participate as a matter of fashion, not as a matter of principle. 

 

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8 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

It starts early for some.

 

 

 

 

 

It should not be a revelation to anyone that Greta was groomed by her parents, likely since childhood, to be a mouth piece for their ideologies. Her parents aren't the only ones.

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2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Book learning is dumb. Everything you need to know you can learn on Twitter.  

 

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Very fine people helpfully turn it into video clips and tell me all I need to know on Twitter!

A fake news site quotes a "scholar" (photo below) making provocative claims about a topic that has absolutely NOTHING TO DO with the protests, so Galaxy Brain thought that was a newsworthy item to post here.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

What are you talking about

Pronghorn's Yale library troll post from above that has nothing whatsoever to do with protests.

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23 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

It’s sad that this is very wishful thinking on your part. 

 

9 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Fuck my ass. 

 

It's sad that in your desperate attempts to get fucked in the ass, you keep showing yours.

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11 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Twitter truthers, Is visegrad24 trustworthy because its pro-ukraine or is visegrad24 untrustworthy because its pro-israel 😓

Can you explain why being pro-Palestinian is necessarily anti-Israel, as the author of the tweet frames it?

I can't speak for all the protestors, but I can say for myself:

  • I'm 100% pro-Israel insofar as Israel has the right to exist as a nation within its internationally recognized borders.
  • I can also state that I'm pro-Palestine insofar as Palestinians have the right to their own sovereign and fully autonomous nation.
  • I'm pro-Israel insofar as they have the right to defend themselves from outside attacks.
  • I'm pro-Palestinian insofar as they have all the human rights afforded to them by international law.

The things that I'm opposed to are:

  • Hamas/Islamic terrorism and indiscriminate killing of civilians by Israeli military forces.
  • Mistreatment of innocent hostages and detainees by both Hamas and Israel.
  • Religious extremists, whether they are by Hamas or Israeli settlers, who claim all of the Holy Land exclusively for their tribe. 

Do I expect ALL of the protesters to agree with all of the above? No, but I suspect that many, if not most, would agree with the vast majority of my bullet points. After all, they are rather mainstream positions commonly held throughout the international community and have been official US foreign policy for decades.

Should I, therefore, expect to be labeled anti-Israel for holding them? If you're talking about individuals or groups who are anti-Israel insofar as they oppose the State itself or deny its right to exist, I'll happily label them anti-Israel. If you're talking about people who are opposed to the conduct of the war or are demanding a ceasefire, then that's a bullshit smear.

I simply feel that Visegrad plays too fast and loose with the term "anti-Israel" in a lot of its tweets.

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24 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Can you explain why being pro-Palestinian is necessarily anti-Israel, as the author of the tweet frames it?

Can you explain why its always the author of the tweet, or even the sharer of the tweet, that becomes the subject of litigation, except when its visegrad24. Is it because people find it easiet to discredit the messenger than the message?

I believe it was bill shakespeare who said “a rose by any other name would post such a tweet”

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10 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Can you explain why its always the author of the tweet, or even the sharer of the tweet, that becomes the subject of litigation, except when its visegrad24. Is it because people find it easiet to discredit the messenger than the message?

I believe it was bill shakespeare who said “a rose by any other name would post such a tweet”

Ah, so you're not interested in an honest conversation. I took the time to answer your question with a thorough response. You just delete all that shit and then throw out more accusatorial queries. Finished engaging with you.

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2 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

I absolutely hate pussy ass mother fuckers like this asshole.  Calls other people pussies while wearing brass knucks...take those off and see what happens bitch.

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6 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

That band of gypsies wasn’t going to do anything. You think the knuckles hadn’t any impact?  lol. Those idiots were scared shitless. 

Bullshit, the guy with the brass knucks was the biggest pussy of the bunch.  

He's clearly a graduate of the Kyle Rittenhouse school of tough guys...needs illegal weapons to feel like a real man...

Not one of the protestors budged an inch and he scurried off like the pussy he is.

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5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

So apparently that dude was Rex. Good to know. 

Well, DrRexBeeperPorterKramerHouse has been raging like a roided-out asshole the past few days, so that checks out.

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