Worldwide Israel/Palestine War Protests Thread

[Steel Shank 9552]

Moria was her name. I was young but damn she was marriage material. Could have even got my hands dirty with these Palestinian fucks to make her family really buy in.

DSLs for sure.

[ChickenSandwich 9946]

Sorry, my bad.  Shout the lie

 

[RDCanecutter 26870]

On 8/20/2024 at 8:46 PM, HellesBier said:

Poland is the model the West should immolate.

For Poland's sake I hope you meant "emulate?"

[InkaUtexas 26859]

34 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

For Poland's sake I hope you meant "emulate?"

Don't get him started.

[PRONG HORN 3219]

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The last half of this shows part of the problem with these people.  Normal palestine supporter interviews America hater.  

 

 

 

[RDCanecutter 26870]

11 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

Good for them. Most students don't realize they'll be in a Year of Struggle until after midterms.

[InkaUtexas 26859]

11 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

My kid goes there. She says it is nothing big and does not care. Her boyfriend is Muslim and he laughs at them.

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[bolverk 30313]

How are we with the IDF shooting an American in the head after protesting illegal Israeli settlement expansions? The protest was a communal prayer on a hillside.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-latest-6-september-2024-5f3a1f36768b924fc96c332daa17d8bc

Eygi, a volunteer with the activist group International Solidarity Movement, was attending a weekly demonstration against settlement expansion that has been held for years and has often brought Israeli crackdowns and protester stone-throwing.

Jonathan Pollak, an Israeli participating in Friday’s protest, said the shooting occurred shortly after dozens of Palestinians and international activists held a communal prayer on a hillside outside the northern West Bank town of Beita overlooking the Israeli settlement of Evyatar.

Soldiers surrounded the prayer, and clashes soon broke out, with Palestinians throwing stones and troops firing tear gas and live ammunition, Pollak said.

The protesters and activists retreated and clashes subdued, he said. He then watched as two soldiers on the roof of a nearby home trained a gun in the group’s direction and fired.

He said he saw Eygi “lying on the ground, next to an olive tree, bleeding to death.”

Mariam Dag, another ISM activist at the protest, also said she saw an Israeli soldier on a rooftop, then heard the firing of two live bullets. One hit a Palestinian protester in the leg; the other hit Eygi. Dag said she saw blood coming from the fallen woman’s head.

“The shots were coming from the direction of the army,” she said.

Eygi had just arrived in the West Bank on Tuesday, Dag said. She had been “very excited this morning to start. She was really keen on coming to the demonstration.”

“This has been happening to Palestinians for decades. This happened because of the impunity which the Israelis act with,” while Western governments do little, she said.

[LW Goatman 1129]

On 9/3/2024 at 12:19 AM, PRONG HORN said:

 

Fucking crazy to see shit like this in the United States. 

[bolverk 30313]

4 minutes ago, LW Goatman said:

Fucking crazy to see shit like this in the United States. 

I'm not sure why you're surprised to see it. The whole mess is an emotionally charged topic with lots of angry people saying lots of crazy stuff.

Shit, I've seen several members of this very board (close to home, so to speak) actively advocate for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank. These are posters with no obvious ties to Israel promoting an entire people to be removed from their ancestral homeland.

Hell, it used to be fairly common around here to come across posters saying that the entire Middle East should be "turned to glass," resulting in the indiscriminate deaths of millions of innocent people.

I'd say that's pretty fucking crazy to see on a University of Texas sports message board.

[PRONG HORN 3219]

 

 

You don't say?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited September 10 by PRONG HORN

[Rex Kramer 1535]

On 9/6/2024 at 7:56 PM, bolverk said:

These are posters with no obvious ties to Israel promoting an entire people to be removed from their ancestral homeland.

Who?

[PRONG HORN 3219]

 

Low-level acid thrown at police officers, horses punched

 

 

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Low-level acid, horse manure, rocks, eggs and rotten tomatoes were some of the projectiles fired at officers, who responded with rubber bullets, capsicum powder and stun grenades.

 

 

 

 

[InkaUtexas 26859]

pro-Palestine protestors were involved. Big protest was against an arms expo. Had all sorts of groups involved. Funny you don't mention them.

[PRONG HORN 3219]

54 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

pro-Palestine protestors were involved. Big protest was against an arms expo. Had all sorts of groups involved. Funny you don't mention them.

 

 

Clips and pics of the protests are palestine flag, and keffiyeh heavy.  The pro palestine element were not the minority if that's what you're suggesting.  

 

 

[InkaUtexas 26859]

No, not at all. Just clarifying the purpose of the protest.

 

[Brian Fantana 6862]

He'll respond around 8AM Moscow time.

[Rex Kramer 1535]

I’m starting to come to the conclusion there is a very real professional protest industry with malicious aims, whatever they are. And they’re effective. Pro-Palestine is just the latest cause they’re attaching themselves to. It’s probably best to ignore these protestors as a consumer of news media, and have police throw their asses in jail. I’m gonna Shannon Sharpe my wife. 

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Pro pally crossed the road to find out.  Gets shot.  

 

 

 

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[Anastasis 23716]

Social media brain rot. 

[Captainant 28506]

26 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Social media brain rot. 

IDK, I think "make free speech legal again" monarchists and daily wire photographers are likely to give an honest framing of what's happening. They have such a storied history of doing just that

Edited September 13 by Captainant

[fattyflattie 4640]

5 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Pro pally crossed the road to find out.  Gets shot.  

 

 

 

Where all the Gritty gifs?   

[Incredulity 11874]

On 9/11/2024 at 10:04 PM, PRONG HORN said:

horses punched

[PRONG HORN 3219]

On 9/13/2024 at 2:13 AM, PRONG HORN said:

Pro pally crossed the road to find out.  Gets shot.  

 

 

Here's what pro pally said last week.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Brian Fantana 6862]

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[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Why doesn't pronghorn ever mention the Palestinians being killed by Netanyahu? Oh yeah he's just here to spread propaganda for one side of the issue.

Yeah some of the Palestine protestors are nuts so what.

[nineliveslost 3001]

1 hour ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Why doesn't pronghorn ever mention the Palestinians being killed by Netanyahu? Oh yeah he's just here to spread propaganda for one side of the issue.

Yeah some of the Palestine protestors are nuts so what.

A lot

[Frank Drebin 5834]

6 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Why doesn't pronghorn ever mention the Palestinians being killed by Netanyahu? Oh yeah he's just here to spread propaganda for one side of the issue.

Yeah some of the Palestine protestors are nuts so what.

Innocent people are going to die when you attack another country and your strategy is to use innocents as human shields.  Blame Hamas.

No different than the innocent Germans or Japanese who had to pay for the sins of their leaders.

[Brian Fantana 6862]

1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

your strategy is to use innocents as human shields

This latest conflict literally started because Netanyahu effectively used his own people as human shields, and the IDF use Palestinians as human shields as well.

[nineliveslost 3001]

1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

This latest conflict literally started because Netanyahu effectively used his own people as human shields, and the IDF use Palestinians as human shields as well.

WOW, so Hamas are the angels in all of this. It's all the Jews ( Netanyahu and the IDF) that use human shields. 

and of course, you think that the Jews started this latest fight. SMFH

[UpperWestside 6268]

On 6/4/2024 at 11:07 AM, InkaUtexas said:

Well the French get some credit as well.

We should also thank Marshal Stalin and the Soviets for this. They were more than happy to see Jewish resettlement of the area after World War II. 

[Brian Fantana 6862]

21 minutes ago, nineliveslost said:

WOW, so Hamas are the angels in all of this. It's all the Jews ( Netanyahu and the IDF) that use human shields. 

and of course, you think that the Jews started this latest fight. SMFH

No, man, Hamas are bloodthirsty terrorist fucks that deserve to die for what they did. If you think criticism of Netanyahu and the Israeli government's actions is "Hamas are angels and fuck Jews" then I don't know how to have a conversation with you.

There is literally a mountain of evidence out there to read if you want to actually give a shit that suggests Netanyahu has not only purposefully propped up Hamas for years, but also that he sat on actionable intel that Oct. 7th was coming and did nothing. He has steadfastly refused an independent inquiry into his actions prior. These accusations are almost entirely coming from within Israel but hey, go off king.

I never said Hamas doesn't use civilians as human shields, of course they do. There is also hard, empirical evidence that the IDF frequently uses Palestinians as human shields, but the same standard is never applied to them.

[nineliveslost 3001]

9 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

No, man, Hamas are bloodthirsty terrorist fucks that deserve to die for what they did. If you think criticism of Netanyahu and the Israeli government's actions is "Hamas are angels and fuck Jews" then I don't know how to have a conversation with you.

There is literally a mountain of evidence out there to read if you want to actually give a shit that suggests Netanyahu has not only purposefully propped up Hamas for years, but also that he sat on actionable intel that Oct. 7th was coming and did nothing. He has steadfastly refused an independent inquiry into his actions prior. These accusations are almost entirely coming from within Israel but hey, go off king.

I never said Hamas doesn't use civilians as human shields, of course they do. There is also hard, empirical evidence that the IDF frequently uses Palestinians as human shields, but the same standard is never applied to them.

Got it. I just read your single post as  "Hamas are angels and fuck Jews"

Thanks for clarifying. I don't follow posters enough to know their posting history or search with who said what. 

There's plenty of blame to go around and I honestly believe both sides want to keep the pot boiling. It's all about the anger and hate these days and the middle east will be fighting for another thousand years. 

[Brian Fantana 6862]

4 minutes ago, nineliveslost said:

Got it. I just read your single post as  "Hamas are angels and fuck Jews"

Thanks for clarifying. I don't follow posters enough to know their posting history or search with who said what. 

There's plenty of blame to go around and I honestly believe both sides want to keep the pot boiling. It's all about the anger and hate these days and the middle east will be fighting for another thousand years. 

No problem man, thanks for engaging in good faith.

[InkaUtexas 26859]

34 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

We should also thank Marshal Stalin and the Soviets for this. They were more than happy to see Jewish resettlement of the area after World War II. 

Came a bit later.

As of 2018, USSR Jews are estimated to be 12.4% of the Israeli population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Jews_in_Israel

Earlier I posed the question. Is immigration from the Soviet Union and satellites a reason for the hardcore shift in Israel?

 

[Bevo 13870]

39 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Came a bit later.

As of 2018, USSR Jews are estimated to be 12.4% of the Israeli population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Jews_in_Israel

Earlier I posed the question. Is immigration from the Soviet Union and satellites a reason for the hardcore shift in Israel?

 

No, but it is the reason that support for Ukraine was tepid at first.

[InkaUtexas 26859]

6 minutes ago, Bevo said:

No, but it is the reason that support for Ukraine was tepid at first.

What support? Israel has no sanctions in place, does not send Ukraine weapons, and maintains full relations with Russia.

 

[Bevo 13870]

24 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

What support? Israel has no sanctions in place, does not send Ukraine weapons, and maintains full relations with Russia.

 

Well, they are in the middle of a war and have still sent humanitarian aid. As for lack of sanctions against Russia, that was my point - Even though there has been a 25% decrease in Jews in Russia since 2014, there are still 150,000 Jews there that Putin could target.

[InkaUtexas 26859]

15 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Well, they are in the middle of a war and have still sent humanitarian aid. As for lack of sanctions against Russia, that was my point - Even though there has been a 25% decrease in Jews in Russia since 2014, there are still 150,000 Jews there that Putin could target.

They are always in a "war", get plenty of aid, etc. We specifically asked for HAWKs, their older system rarely heard about. They said nah, we want to keep them. Ya know, in case our enemies attack in ultralights.

So explain the sanctions and lack of. Continuing air travel. Could it be they continue to buy a shit load of crap from Russia. Like oil and steel?

Either way here is a country that is about as close to siding with Russia without saying it. Wonder how they feel about rumors Russia gave Iran nuke tech for those new drones and missiles.

 

[Bevo 13870]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

They are always in a "war", get plenty of aid, etc. We specifically asked for HAWKs, their older system rarely heard about. They said nah, we want to keep them. Ya know, in case our enemies attack in ultralights.

So explain the sanctions and lack of. Continuing air travel. Could it be they continue to buy a shit load of crap from Russia. Like oil and steel?

Either way here is a country that is about as close to siding with Russia without saying it. Wonder how they feel about rumors Russia gave Iran nuke tech for those new drones and missiles.

 

Israel thinks it is at war even if you don't. And no, they are not close to siding with Russia, but they need Russia in the fight against Hezbollah.

 

Military & Defense
Here's why Israel, one of the toughest militaries, isn't arming Ukraine despite a global push to do so. It's got another fight in focus.
Analysis by Jake Epstein
 

    Israel, a major US partner, has not provided direct military aid to Ukraine.
    The country is balancing Western interests and its own regional interests in the Middle East.
    Russia allows Israel to conduct operations targeting Iran-linked forces in Syria, something it doesn't want to jeopardize.

 

Since Russian forces launched a large-scale invasion of Ukraine nearly a year ago, the US and partner countries have provided Kyiv with tens of billions of dollars in widespread security assistance.

But Israel, a prominent ally of NATO and Western militaries, has so far refused to send weapons to Ukraine, despite pressure to do so, opting instead to focus its efforts on providing humanitarian aid.

Middle East experts say this is because Israel has a complicated relationship with Russia and works with the country to carry out operations in neighboring Syria. At the same time, Israel has been able to often strike a balance between the interests of major global powers and its own to avoid conflict.

Israel, as of February 2022, was the largest cumulative recipient of US foreign assistance — most of which comes in the form of military support. It also boasts one of the world's strongestmilitaries, armed with drones, advanced fighter jets, and even nuclear weapons, though that isn't openly acknowledged.
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The US and its allies expected that Israel would support Ukraine when Russia invaded, but the country was slow to condemn Russian President Vladimir Putin and the unprovoked assault on Russia's neighbor.

From the early days of the war, Israel has provided humanitarian aid and equipment for emergency forces — efforts that have continued under the new right-wing government headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. But the country has stopped short of providing direct lethal military aid to Ukraine, despite pleas from leadership in Kyiv.

It's complicated.

Israel's complicated relationship with Russia has multiple dimensions to it. For starters, Israel is home to large Russian and Ukrainian communities, while both of these countries host Jewish populations.  

"How do you deal with countries — that have Jewish communities — and they fight with one another?" Yossi Mekelberg, an associate fellow with the Middle East and North Africa program at the UK-based Chatham House, told Insider. "You have to be careful how you act without endangering one or the other Jewish community."
 

But the issue that remains front and center when it comes to Israel's reluctance to send military aid to Ukraine involves neighboring Syria and a shadowy conflict between Israel and its regional foe, Iran.

Russia controls much of the airspace over war-torn Syria, and it allows Israel to carry out operations targeting Iran-linked assets and weapons shipments to its regional proxies like the Lebanon-based Hezbollah — which is designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the US State Department.

"Russia doesn't try to shoot down Israeli planes, and Israeli planes don't try to destroy Russian anti-aircraft batteries," Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told Insider.

Even as Moscow allows Israel to clamp down on Iranian influence in Syria, Russia and Iran have increased their military ties and support throughout the Ukraine war. Tehran has provided the Kremlin with suicide drones, which Russian forces have used to bombard Ukrainian cities and the country's civilian infrastructure.
 

A top UK official said in December that Russia was also seeking a massive supply of ballistic missiles from Iran and was prepared to offer the country "unprecedented" military support in return.
'Contradictory' and 'paradoxical' behaviors

In theory, the threat posed by Russia-Iran cooperation in this space would appear to be the most likely impetus for Israel to provide additional support for Ukraine, Alterman said, but Israel is reluctant to lose the freedom of action it has in Syria because it perceives Hezbollah to be a tremendous danger.

"It would take a lot for Israel to feel that it should jeopardize freedom of action against these resupply efforts that go through Syria," he said. So even with these increasing military ties between Moscow and Tehran, Israel has not made efforts to outfit Ukraine with lethal aid needed to defeat Russia.

International relations occasionally have "contradictory" and "paradoxical behavior," Mekelberg explained — a policy might not make much sense in the big picture but it works for a specific case, even if it contradicts a stance on another issue.   

An image grab from November 20, 2019 reportedly shows Syrian air defense batteries responding to Israeli missiles targeting the southern outskirts of Damascus.
An image grab from November 20, 2019 reportedly shows Syrian air defense batteries responding to Israeli missiles targeting the southern outskirts of Damascus. AFP via Getty Images

Another example of this contradictory behavior is that Russia doesn't want Iran to have too much influence in Syria and is happy for Israel to carry out its operations in country. It could have stopped Israeli behavior a long time ago if it wanted to, Mekelberg added.  

"Every country has a complicated set of interests, so Israel and Russia have a certain amount of understanding. But you could argue that Russia and Iran are cooperating in a range of ways, some of which Israel finds threatening because Israel finds Iran so threatening," Alterman said. "So it seems to me that what Israel is doing and what Israel expects countries to do is to balance between partners and between interests that nobody gets a hundred percent of anything."

Israel's response to the Ukraine war does not seem to be a major cause for concern in Washington, and it's not the only country with solid US ties — like South Korea and India — to sidestep directly sending lethal aid to Ukraine.

"It's partly a reflection of the complexity of the US-Israeli relationship," Alterman said, "and partly a reflection of the Biden administration having to adjust for the fact that close partners are, in many cases, unwilling to line up across the board."
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Last week, Axios reported that the US asked Israel if it could transfer out-of-service Hawk anti-aircraft missiles, but it remains to be seen if Israel breaks with protocol and decides to transfer lethal military aid to Ukraine. Netanyahu told CNN recently that he would consider sending weaponry to Kyiv, which Moscow warned would lead to an escalation in the conflict, according to The Times of Israel.  

Meanwhile, Western security assistance to Ukraine is continuing to pile up. Hundreds of armored vehicles, including tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, are heading to Ukraine in the coming months to help it defend itself against what US officials describe as a potential Russian "onslaught."

 

 

[InkaUtexas 26859]

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

Israel thinks it is at war even if you don't. And no, they are not close to siding with Russia, but they need Russia in the fight against Hezbollah.

 

Military & Defense
Here's why Israel, one of the toughest militaries, isn't arming Ukraine despite a global push to do so. It's got another fight in focus.
Analysis by Jake Epstein
 

    Israel, a major US partner, has not provided direct military aid to Ukraine.
    The country is balancing Western interests and its own regional interests in the Middle East.
    Russia allows Israel to conduct operations targeting Iran-linked forces in Syria, something it doesn't want to jeopardize.

 

Since Russian forces launched a large-scale invasion of Ukraine nearly a year ago, the US and partner countries have provided Kyiv with tens of billions of dollars in widespread security assistance.

But Israel, a prominent ally of NATO and Western militaries, has so far refused to send weapons to Ukraine, despite pressure to do so, opting instead to focus its efforts on providing humanitarian aid.

Middle East experts say this is because Israel has a complicated relationship with Russia and works with the country to carry out operations in neighboring Syria. At the same time, Israel has been able to often strike a balance between the interests of major global powers and its own to avoid conflict.

Israel, as of February 2022, was the largest cumulative recipient of US foreign assistance — most of which comes in the form of military support. It also boasts one of the world's strongestmilitaries, armed with drones, advanced fighter jets, and even nuclear weapons, though that isn't openly acknowledged.
Advertisement

The US and its allies expected that Israel would support Ukraine when Russia invaded, but the country was slow to condemn Russian President Vladimir Putin and the unprovoked assault on Russia's neighbor.

From the early days of the war, Israel has provided humanitarian aid and equipment for emergency forces — efforts that have continued under the new right-wing government headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. But the country has stopped short of providing direct lethal military aid to Ukraine, despite pleas from leadership in Kyiv.
 

Spoiler

It's complicated.

Israel's complicated relationship with Russia has multiple dimensions to it. For starters, Israel is home to large Russian and Ukrainian communities, while both of these countries host Jewish populations.  

"How do you deal with countries — that have Jewish communities — and they fight with one another?" Yossi Mekelberg, an associate fellow with the Middle East and North Africa program at the UK-based Chatham House, told Insider. "You have to be careful how you act without endangering one or the other Jewish community."
 

But the issue that remains front and center when it comes to Israel's reluctance to send military aid to Ukraine involves neighboring Syria and a shadowy conflict between Israel and its regional foe, Iran.

Russia controls much of the airspace over war-torn Syria, and it allows Israel to carry out operations targeting Iran-linked assets and weapons shipments to its regional proxies like the Lebanon-based Hezbollah — which is designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the US State Department.

"Russia doesn't try to shoot down Israeli planes, and Israeli planes don't try to destroy Russian anti-aircraft batteries," Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told Insider.

Even as Moscow allows Israel to clamp down on Iranian influence in Syria, Russia and Iran have increased their military ties and support throughout the Ukraine war. Tehran has provided the Kremlin with suicide drones, which Russian forces have used to bombard Ukrainian cities and the country's civilian infrastructure.
 

A top UK official said in December that Russia was also seeking a massive supply of ballistic missiles from Iran and was prepared to offer the country "unprecedented" military support in return.
'Contradictory' and 'paradoxical' behaviors

In theory, the threat posed by Russia-Iran cooperation in this space would appear to be the most likely impetus for Israel to provide additional support for Ukraine, Alterman said, but Israel is reluctant to lose the freedom of action it has in Syria because it perceives Hezbollah to be a tremendous danger.

"It would take a lot for Israel to feel that it should jeopardize freedom of action against these resupply efforts that go through Syria," he said. So even with these increasing military ties between Moscow and Tehran, Israel has not made efforts to outfit Ukraine with lethal aid needed to defeat Russia.

International relations occasionally have "contradictory" and "paradoxical behavior," Mekelberg explained — a policy might not make much sense in the big picture but it works for a specific case, even if it contradicts a stance on another issue.   

An image grab from November 20, 2019 reportedly shows Syrian air defense batteries responding to Israeli missiles targeting the southern outskirts of Damascus.
An image grab from November 20, 2019 reportedly shows Syrian air defense batteries responding to Israeli missiles targeting the southern outskirts of Damascus. AFP via Getty Images

Another example of this contradictory behavior is that Russia doesn't want Iran to have too much influence in Syria and is happy for Israel to carry out its operations in country. It could have stopped Israeli behavior a long time ago if it wanted to, Mekelberg added.  

"Every country has a complicated set of interests, so Israel and Russia have a certain amount of understanding. But you could argue that Russia and Iran are cooperating in a range of ways, some of which Israel finds threatening because Israel finds Iran so threatening," Alterman said. "So it seems to me that what Israel is doing and what Israel expects countries to do is to balance between partners and between interests that nobody gets a hundred percent of anything."

Israel's response to the Ukraine war does not seem to be a major cause for concern in Washington, and it's not the only country with solid US ties — like South Korea and India — to sidestep directly sending lethal aid to Ukraine.

"It's partly a reflection of the complexity of the US-Israeli relationship," Alterman said, "and partly a reflection of the Biden administration having to adjust for the fact that close partners are, in many cases, unwilling to line up across the board."
Advertisement

Last week, Axios reported that the US asked Israel if it could transfer out-of-service Hawk anti-aircraft missiles, but it remains to be seen if Israel breaks with protocol and decides to transfer lethal military aid to Ukraine. Netanyahu told CNN recently that he would consider sending weaponry to Kyiv, which Moscow warned would lead to an escalation in the conflict, according to The Times of Israel.  

Meanwhile, Western security assistance to Ukraine is continuing to pile up. Hundreds of armored vehicles, including tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, are heading to Ukraine in the coming months to help it defend itself against what US officials describe as a potential Russian "onslaught."

 

 

I think Israel is in a constant state of insurgency/anti-terror operations, with wars happening every 20 or so years. Before Gaza the last time they fought convention outside of their borders was Lebanon in the 1980's.

And your article proves my point. They are not using the Hawks, but they won't give them up?

It seems Hezbollah has little problems moving shit into Lebanon via Syria. If Russia wanted peace, they could stop it if they have the power in Syria. So all good, lets keep buying Russian oil, work with their businesses, and give lip service to Ukraine.

Edited September 16 by InkaUtexas
Spoiled the article.

[UpperWestside 6268]

6 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Came a bit later.

As of 2018, USSR Jews are estimated to be 12.4% of the Israeli population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Jews_in_Israel

Earlier I posed the question. Is immigration from the Soviet Union and satellites a reason for the hardcore shift in Israel?

 

Well to be more clear it was not that they cared about sending the Russian Jews to a new state, it was that the war was over and they could now interfere with the British Empire and its interests in the post-war world. Unintended consequences and whatnot is what we now see. The outside world interfering in something they had no business in doing has led to more innocent bloodshed. It rekindled the millennia old issue of two peoples living together that have issues with one another that have transcended generations. I find the whole thing tragic and think the Jews should have been resettled anywhere but there after the war’s conclusion.

I come from Jews on my mom’s side (her father) and one thing I have learned is that Jewish people have a lengthy memory. Go check out Sputh Dallas now if you want to see that as the Jews want their old neighborhood back there as well. It’s not surprising that they have not done anything in regard to Russia and it can be tied back to this. 

Edited September 16 by UpperWestside