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Anyone else into overlanding? I know there's a few sprinter folks here.

Going to take the FJ to someplace in June. Built a bed last weekend, ordered a mattress, spare gas cans, some locks to lock the various stuff that will be on the roof rack down.

Found this site:

https://www.overlandtrailguides.com/

that has a bunch of routes to try along with downloadable maps that you can put in an app. Planning on joining so I can download all the maps.

Deciding between the area around Guadalupe Peak/Southern NM

https://www.overlandtrailguides.com/post/guadalupe-mountains-adventure-trail

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or this one, taking dirt roads from just outside Santa Fe to the Colorado border:

https://www.overlandtrailguides.com/post/carson-santafe-backcountry-discovery-trail

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Have downloaded two different apps for mapping, Gaia GPS and onX offroad. I think I like Gaia better.

Anyone else do this?

What am I forgetting?

I have full size spare, shovel, pick axe, traction boards, big jack, winch, spare gas cans, tire patch kit, 12v air compressor, first aid kit, tow rope, emergency jump starter, crow bar, tools, 

 

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Can you carry enough fuel with some reserves? - would be my #1 concern.  Mechanical breakdown would be 2nd.  But, yeah, I see the appeal of turning off the cell phone and spending many days away from it all.

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That’s probably my biggest worry.
Bought two 2.5 gallon rotopax gas cans. I thought I’d try to figure out the half way point of the trip and if I hit half a tank before I get there I’d turn around. 

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I wouldn’t say I’m really into overlanding, but I do sleep in the back of my truck a lot.  I’m posting from the bed in the back of my truck right now actually..  It’s a long bed Tacoma. I have an exped mattress on top of a drawer in the back.  Midrise camper shell with screened. windows,and a fan clamped to the screen.   Fridge, solar, etc…


Before the Tacoma, I had an LX 470 that’s posted up in Toyota thread. Similar set up with a bed and drawers in the back of it.  I’ve taken it up through Colorado and a little bit of Utah a couple of times. Other more local trips like Big Bend a few times.  Big Bend Ranch SP is good for that type of thing. Some of those campsites deep in the park are a good 30 miles or more from the pavement.  

I wish we had more public land here for dispersed camping.

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Look into a Garmin InReach or equivalent for off grid comms and emergency beacon. Carry 1+ gal drinking water per person per day and a reserve. Calculate fuel like in a boat going offshore fishing. 1/3 tank for the trip out and trolling, 1/3 trip in, 1/3 reserve for emergencies.

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We'll be doing some this summer when Austin turns into the 5th level of hell. Probably some of the same areas as Bob is thinking about.

The CCV top has a queen size bed and the dogs have a fully padded bench area in the back.

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Make sure your compressor is heavy duty enough. I've nearly been stranded because of relying on a cheap light duty one. I'd also look into something you could buryor some sort of heavy bag you could fill with dirt/sand/rocks and attach your winch to in the event there isn't anything else. 

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It’s handled blowing up all 4 tires from 10 psi to 35 psi after a day of off-roading. I have considered getting a small hand held that uses the same battery as my impact wrench as a back up. 
 

Yes, pretty desolate out there without many trees. I can’t imagine how much dirt/rocks you’d need to pile up to use for a winch. I have seen matt’s off road recovery us big rocks to tie off with various levels of success. They have moved around some big rocks they were using for anchors. Maybe some spikes you can hammer into the ground? 

Huh, Learned something new today. 
searched on google and sure enough “land anchors” are a thing

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We get a lot of over landers up my way.  The Denali Highway (Paxson to Cantwell) is a popular destination with all of the side trails available to explore.

Tourists are starting to show up now.  Tourist season will be in full swing by June with the very mild weather we've been experiencing.

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1 hour ago, blacklab said:

It’s handled blowing up all 4 tires from 10 psi to 35 psi after a day of off-roading. I have considered getting a small hand held that uses the same battery as my impact wrench as a back up. 
 

Yes, pretty desolate out there without many trees. I can’t imagine how much dirt/rocks you’d need to pile up to use for a winch. I have seen matt’s off road recovery us big rocks to tie off with various levels of success. They have moved around some big rocks they were using for anchors. Maybe some spikes you can hammer into the ground? 

Huh, Learned something new today. 
searched on google and sure enough “land anchors” are a thing

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Depending on what kind of ground you're on, I've seen guys use a spare tire as an anchor point. Dig a deep and narrow hole, run the recovery strap through the center of the wheel, then drop it vertically into the hole. 

 

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On 5/9/2024 at 6:54 PM, blacklab said:

Just be aware, you can only contact emergency services via iPhone satellite feature. An inreach device allows you to contact emergency services as well as friends/family. 

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Being stuck doesn't always play fair.  Some situations will not allow to winch forward, you may need to winch backwards.  I'd recommend a winch set up that can be used on a front bumper that has a place for a receiver hitch and same on the back.  If nothing else, get a snatch block.  You can use to double line, pull from odd angles and hang venison from a tree to dress it out. 

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9 minutes ago, Bevo&Pevo said:

Being stuck doesn't always play fair.  Some situations will not allow to winch forward, you may need to winch backwards.  I'd recommend a winch set up that can be used on a front bumper that has a place for a receiver hitch and same on the back.  If nothing else, get a snatch block.  You can use to double line, pull from odd angles and hang venison from a tree to dress it out. 

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Northwest of Dell City in NM is a wind Mountain and the Cornudas. One of the Cornudas mounts has some stealth rock climbing on terrain similar to Hueco Tanks. It is supposedly on BLM land but access is over private roads. Might be interesting to check out if you have an open itinerary.

 

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Not sure it counts as overlanding since we're in a van, but wife and I are currently sitting 30 min outside Telluride at a dispersed campsite. We were at Pagosa 2 nights ago and Ouray last night. Will be someplace close to Aspen tomorrow night.

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On 6/5/2024 at 7:29 PM, Chewbacca said:

Not sure it counts as overlanding since we're in a van, but wife and I are currently sitting 30 min outside Telluride at a dispersed campsite. We were at Pagosa 2 nights ago and Ouray last night. Will be someplace close to Aspen tomorrow night.

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Those are all great spots.  Picture of rig?

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On 6/9/2024 at 11:46 AM, blacklab said:

Drove from Austin to Van Horn on Monday. Stopped at Balmorhea to swim. 

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Got up early on Tuesday and headed north.
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Headed west to Dell City and had a wonderful lunch, three taco plate at Angel's
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Tried to follow the path from Overland trail guides but it was all fucked up. Road just ended at one point. Got a few scratches from driving through mesquite and cactus

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Wrong neighborhood mother fucker

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Ended up coming to a locked gate. Turned around and ended up camping outside Dell City.


Wednesday Morning drove from Dell City around the north part of Guadalupe through Big Dog Canyon.

Please don't tell mom we were playing in the street

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One thing I love about west Texas/Southern NM is when the road goes to the horizon
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Big dog canyon
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Camped Wednesday night and drove around Lincoln National forest on the east side of Guadalupe.

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Got up Thursday morning to this

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Eastern most part of the park
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and headed off to Odessa, but stopped to get some west Texas fine dining

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Pro move saving the bag for the emergency roadside shit

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On 6/9/2024 at 11:46 AM, blacklab said:

Drove from Austin to Van Horn on Monday. Stopped at Balmorhea to swim. 

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Got up early on Tuesday and headed north.
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Headed west to Dell City and had a wonderful lunch, three taco plate at Angel's
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Tried to follow the path from Overland trail guides but it was all fucked up. Road just ended at one point. Got a few scratches from driving through mesquite and cactus

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Wrong neighborhood mother fucker

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Ended up coming to a locked gate. Turned around and ended up camping outside Dell City.


Wednesday Morning drove from Dell City around the north part of Guadalupe through Big Dog Canyon.

Please don't tell mom we were playing in the street

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One thing I love about west Texas/Southern NM is when the road goes to the horizon
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Big dog canyon
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Camped Wednesday night and drove around Lincoln National forest on the east side of Guadalupe.

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Got up Thursday morning to this

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Eastern most part of the park
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and headed off to Odessa, but stopped to get some west Texas fine dining

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Looks awesome. Wanting to take The Boy out adventuring a bit before he gets too much older and was pegging out west, with Balmorhea for sure on the list. Looks like a pretty clean route, as I'm not looking for anything too rough. 

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It was a great trip.

I got the route here:

https://www.overlandtrailguides.com/post/guadalupe-mountains-adventure-trail

Some jackass named blacklab has a comment on that page about the route. Follow the green in the posted map and pretty much any 4x4 can make the trip.

I used gaia gps with the map downloaded from there and it worked great.

Can't wait till I retire, going to hit up every one of the trails on that website in and west of the rockies. Really want to do the pony express trail. Dirt roads from Salt Lake to Tahoe across Nevada.

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54 minutes ago, blacklab said:

It was a great trip.

I got the route here:

https://www.overlandtrailguides.com/post/guadalupe-mountains-adventure-trail

Some jackass named blacklab has a comment on that page about the route. Follow the green in the posted map and pretty much any 4x4 can make the trip.

I used gaia gps with the map downloaded from there and it worked great.

Can't wait till I retire, going to hit up every one of the trails on that website in and west of the rockies. Really want to do the pony express trail. Dirt roads from Salt Lake to Tahoe across Nevada.

Seems like you were the OP on one of the old sites, about the dude that jeeped across the congo?  Am I correct?  It was fascinating. 

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On 7/19/2024 at 8:20 AM, UncleBuck said:

Wanting to take The Boy out adventuring a bit before he gets too much older and was pegging out west, with Balmorhea for sure on the list. Looks like a pretty clean route, as I'm not looking for anything too rough

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On 7/21/2024 at 12:52 PM, blacklab said:
Yes!
That truck is bad ass. Late 70’s?


That’s a 67-72. The square bodies were 74 into the 80s. My first truck was a 65 step side with a 283 and dad had a 68 short bed fleet side, then a 78 short bed fleet side complete with tin roof camper shell. The 78 has been parked in the garage since 2009 but is about to see the light of day again.

 

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@blacklab, do you mind posting a list of the equipment you took? 

I drove out to Vegas with my dogs and would like to try overlanding somewhere on the west coast since we're already out here.  I plan to leave here on the 17th.

I don't have a full rig, just an F-150 4x4 and some camping equipment, so want to get any other essentials I might need.

I joined overlandtrailguides.com and found a couple easier routes, so I'll most likely be sticking to forest service roads and not doing real bouldering or anything crazy, but definitely don't want to get stuck out in the middle of nowhere.

Thanks

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dry box
       measuring cup
      Tongs
       Knife
    Egg pan
       trash bags
       sandwich bags
       olive oil
       wipes
       Plate
       Utensils 
       Matches
       fire starter
      flint
       Insect repellent 
    spatula
    pans
    paper towels with heavy holder
    Paper bag for burnable trash
    Kitchen towels
    toilet paper
    Hand soap
    lighters
    salt + pepper
    

camping
    pillow
    two sheets, blanket
    chair
    table
    stove
    5 gallon water container
     tarp

recovery
        impact gun
        extra battery and charger for impact gun
        12v->120v inverter
        solar panel
       jumper battery
       kinetic rope
       soft shackles
       snatch block
       deadman recovery tarp
       air compressor
       tire repair kit
       fuses
       multimeter
       fire extinguisher
       first aid kit
       crow bar
       tools - screwdrivers, pliers, hammer, sockets, wrenches
       zip ties
       bungee cords
       parachute cord

big items in truck
    yeti
    small cooler for drinks
    box with food/dry goods 
    bed, mattress, pillow, sheets, blanket
    water container

roof
    traction boards
    jack
    shovel
       pick axe
    gas cans
        
backpack
    laptop
    books
    toiletries
    swim suit
        swim towel
    1x shorts
    Jeans
    4x boxers
    3x long sleeve tshirt
    2x short sleeve shirt 
    3x Socks
    Jacket
    Rain jacket
    baseball hat
        aussie hat
    sunglasses
    Hiking boots
        tennis shoes
    Flip flops
    
    
on way down
    Charge phone
    Charge battery pack
    Charge laptop 
    Charge lighter
    charge light
 

will buy for next time

    usb powered Fan
    Binoculars 
    Angle grinder 
    Second pillow for reading/watching laptop 
    Dish wash basin

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