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Spoetzl · May 26

Buddy of mine got sworn in and we threw him a party today. Known him for a long time and found out he wasn’t already a citizen 2 years ago (he has been “in process” for years). He went through all of the hoops. He took the test. He wanted this more than anything. He got sworn in with people he knows “skipped the line”. And felt like he was being processed when he swore his allegiance to the USA.

Neg me to oblivion, but the people that do it the way it is supposed to be done are frickin’ hreoes.

immamac · May 26

Congrats to your friend. I don't really get what this has to do with anyone else besides him.

Chico_SA · May 26

I'm wondering how excited the friends of the ones who "skipped the line" are? I wonder if they had parties and talked about how excited they are to be US citizens.

They were all sworn in. Great for them. Congratulations.

Parliament · May 26

I, for one, welcome our immigrant overlords.

F250 · May 26

Is your "friend" in the room with us right now?

Steel Shank · May 26

Congrats to your friend. 🤘

Hank Kingsley · May 26

B00M · May 26

jimmyjazz · May 26

I stood as witness for a college friend from Lebanon who gained his citizenship during undergrad. It was one of the most emotional things I've ever seen.

Wally Fairway · May 26

56 minutes ago, Spoetzl said:

Neg me to oblivion, but the people that do it the way it is supposed to be done are frickin’ hreoes.

Maybe he can help you with your spelling

F250 · May 26

10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I stood as witness for a college friend from Lebanon who gained his citizenship during undergrad. It was one of the most emotional things I've ever seen.

In high school I worked at a pizza place owned by a Syrian immigrant. The day he became a U.S. citizen he came into the restaurant and announced he would be visiting Syria and Lebanon.

He said, "If they fuck with me over there George Bush will tell them to suck my cock. Suck my American cock you motherfuckers."

Steel Shank · May 26

1 minute ago, F250 said:

In high school I worked at a pizza place owned by a Syrian immigrant. The day he became a U.S. citizen he came into the restaurant and announced he would be visiting Syria and Lebanon.

He said, "If they fuck with me over there George Bush will tell them to suck my cock. Suck my American cock you motherfuckers."

That's the American spirit!

jimmyjazz · May 26

4 minutes ago, F250 said:

He said, "If they fuck with me over there George Bush will tell them to suck my cock. Suck my American cock you motherfuckers."

Yes, that was part of the oath upon swearing in, verbatim. Honestly, I teared up.

deadshank · May 26

My BIL became an American citizen 20+ years ago. Came to Texas from Adana, Turkey.

I asked him why he showed up over here instead of staying in Turkey. He replied, “why wouldn’t I? America. Texas. Turkey. What would you do?”

He also married my seester. He’s a real American hero based in that simple fact. Dumb but heroic. Undefeated and what not.

Bevo · May 26

I remember when I had sex for the first time. It was very emotional. When I was a little older, I got to share the experience.

InkaUtexas · May 26

Attended a few. Always emotional. Bosnian's threw a huge party, we got pretty messed up. Afghans, a calm sedate dinner surrounded by US flags. They all have become damn good citizens with a few going on to serve the country.

atomheartbevo · May 26

2 hours ago, Spoetzl said:

He wanted this more than anything.

I was banging this gal for a few years, whose husband was an immigrant from Adana Turkey. He got his citizenship like over 20 years ago - I can't remember if it was late 90s or early 2000s and I never asked him if it was before or after 9/11 (seems like it might have become a little more difficult for some regions after 9/11).

I do remember asking him every now and then if he was from Adama, Turkey, and he'd get kind of irritated and say "no, it's Adana, Turkey" and then I'd say "so say we all".

Hate · May 26

Turkish women are fucking hot!! I dated one just after high school. Her mom was hot too!

F250 · May 26

elfenix · May 26

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I was banging this gal for a few years, whose husband was an immigrant from Adana Turkey. He got his citizenship like over 20 years ago - I can't remember if it was late 90s or early 2000s and I never asked him if it was before or after 9/11 (seems like it might have become a little more difficult for some regions after 9/11).

I do remember asking him every now and then if he was from Adama, Turkey, and he'd get kind of irritated and say "no, it's Adana, Turkey" and then I'd say "so say we all".

TwiceHorn · May 26

How does one "skip the line"?

Parliament · May 26

5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

How does one "skip the line"?

Be white. Pay money.

Or sneak in illegally. (No CR)

Edited May 26 by Parliament

B00M · May 26

6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

How does one "skip the line"?

If it’s South Austin’s mom you just have to promise not to pull out

chainsaw · May 26

15 hours ago, Spoetzl said:

the way it is supposed to be done

Do you support politicians who support changing the laws to make that easier? I'll hang up and listen.

YGIFS · May 26

7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

How does one "skip the line"?

well apparently from the above posts, we get some chicks from Turkey, Bosnia, Lebanon, and Syria. We make a roux, say the Pledge of Allegiance. And then a gang bang??

Pato del Muerto · May 26

1 minute ago, YGIFS said:

well apparently from the above posts, we get some chicks from Turkey, Bosnia, Lebanon, and Syria. We make a roux, say the Pledge of Allegiance. And then a gang bang??

The original pledge, or the revision where the fundies shoehorned “under god” in there?

YGIFS · May 26

Most of us have parents or grandparents who used to recite the Pledge with the "Under God" portion while doing the Bellamy Salute. Now known better as the Heil Hitler gesture. Even as an elementary school kid, I always thought the Pledge ritual in the morning was so odd. And I was raised by generations of veterans and public servants. It's still so odd to me, like my wife anointing my children with holy water before mass. Either the ideals of the county or christ live in your bones of they don't. No hand gestures or repetitive speech is gonna change that.

csb/ In law school, I think it was for CivPro, we went to a swearing-in ceremony for buncha folks in Sacramento. And it folks from East Asia and Latin America and all points in between. It was really cool to see. A bunch of my mother's family was born in Mexico and didn't have proper documentation even until their deaths. But it was a simpler time. But I remember these people were all speaking different languages to one another after the swearing-in. And one person's relative would translate and then another and another. And the most wonderful aspect of it was they were discussing, aside from the joy of citizenship and new opportunity, was the wonderment of the U.S. Constitution. They had to learn parts of it for the "test" as we all know. But they would speak about how amazing it was, so different from anything their home country had. And they spoke to details that even I didn't know despite literally being there for a law school course based on the Constitution developed by then SCOTUS Justice, Anthony Kennedy. These people not just learned it by rote, they embraced it. They were warmed by its light. They were living it.

And now I gotta listen to tens of millions of fucking abject morons start conversations, "You know, as a natural born citizen and student of the constitution." I'll take that Sacramento courtroom of dedicated immigrants over most Texans any day of the fucking week. Congrats to all our new citizens. We don't make it to the next thing without you....

jimmyjazz · May 26

Where in the world did you go to law school?

TwiceHorn · May 26

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

Be white. Pay money.

Or sneak in illegally. (No CR)

Just in case you are operating under any misapprhension, no one who enters the United States unlawfully is ever eligible to become a naturalized citizen.

The rest spend 3-5 years as a permanent resident while completing the requirements to become naturalized.

Parliament · May 26

I was joking.

TwiceHorn · May 26

17 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I was joking.

I figured, but I think people conflate unlawful immigration with naturalization and the path to the latter is pretty narrow.

Parliament · May 26

Everyone with working skills and a clean arrest record should be allowed to be an American. We need their talent and their taxes.

YGIFS · May 26

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Where in the world did you go to law school?

McGeorge School of Law. An extension of the University of the Pacific. Which now given the "Breaking Bad" universe, sounds like a Saul Goodman campus. But it is an 'Order of the Coif' school which means a lot in the legal work. I got to study under Anthony Skrocki (sp?) who basically rewrote all contract law of the last 50 years. Plus, under SCOTUS justice Anthony Kennedy who was an adjunct professor there. I finished and about to sit the bar in either California or Texas. But got called away for something else more pressing and never went back. I found out I was made out to be a financial and political mercenary. And it kinda served me okay for a few decades. It wasn't until the last couple of years that I learned what I was truly capable of. I've helped people get U.S. Citizenship, to the point of this thread. there are people that deserve to be here and I want to help them. They are native born 'Americans' that shouldn't be here. I handle the money and wash the dirty clothes. I really didn't understand until I go to middle-aged sobriety and lucidity what all of this meant. There are people that deserve to be in our borders and there are others that will never see the outside or our borders. And a few of us whom will expedite all parties involved.

Pato del Muerto · May 26

51 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Everyone with working skills and a clean arrest record should be allowed to be an American. We need their talent and their taxes.

Need to work out a system to process and accept legal immigrants quicker so that illegal immigration doesn’t appear to be the better choice. Get these folks a real ssn, and jobs on the books.

The backlog, as far as I can tell, is leading to some people making dangerous decisions out of what they fee is necessity.

Armybrat · May 26

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Everyone with working skills and a clean arrest record should be allowed to be an American. We need their talent and their taxes.

Except the Dutch. Fuck them.

Superhero · May 26

19 hours ago, Spoetzl said:

Buddy of mine got sworn in and we threw him a party today. Known him for a long time and found out he wasn’t already a citizen 2 years ago (he has been “in process” for years). He went through all of the hoops. He took the test. He wanted this more than anything. He got sworn in with people he knows “skipped the line”. And felt like he was being processed when he swore his allegiance to the USA.

Neg me to oblivion, but the people that do it the way it is supposed to be done are frickin’ hreoes.

That's why I call myself Superhero, because I did it "the way it is supposed to be done". Took a long ass time, but it's worth it.

18 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I stood as witness for a college friend from Lebanon who gained his citizenship during undergrad. It was one of the most emotional things I've ever seen.

I wish I could have had family and friends at my citizen ceremony. But this was in LA, and there were probably over 1,000 people being sworn in.

3 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Do you support politicians who support changing the laws to make that easier? I'll hang up and listen.

Yes. Make the wall taller, but the gate wider. Allow people who abide by the laws, bring skills and willingness to work (even seasonal farm workers) into the country.

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Everyone with working skills and a clean arrest record should be allowed to be an American. We need their talent and their taxes.

And willingness to work, and integrate into American society.

Catdaddyhorn · May 26

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

Everyone with working skills and a clean arrest record should be allowed to be an American. We need their talent and their taxes.

Green card holders and permanent residents pay taxes as well. You don't have to be a citizen to be required to pay federal taxes.

Willfully Horn · May 26

Congratulations to the new US citizens! Looking forward to learning what your mom’s cooked, when she spoiled your dads like babies.

aggie08 · May 26

4 hours ago, Parliament said:

Everyone with working skills and a clean arrest record should be allowed to be an American. We need their talent and their taxes.

Ok, commie.

Brisketexan · May 27

Put me in the column of preferring Americans who actually want to be and chose to be Americans over "Americans" who are Americans simply by virtue of the fact that their trashy momma and their no-account "father" fucked and later popped out a kid over the dirt of some American trailer park or whatnot.

Pretty much everyone who puts in even a portion of the work it takes to become a citizen is the kind of person I want to call my fellow American. Good on them all. It's an amazing thing, to CHOOSE this country. I never got to do it, and I'm a little bit jealous.

That said, I never imagined that I'd consider choosing someplace OTHER than this country. But I can imagine it now. Seeing people from all over the world still choose this place gives me a little bit of hope. Hope that they will stand and fight to keep it from becoming the kind of shitshow that many of them left behind somewhere else.

closetohumping · May 27

7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I figured, but I think people conflate unlawful immigration with naturalization and the path to the latter is pretty narrow.

Correct. They may skip the line but no ceremony

gsoda3 · May 27

Just in case you are operating under any misapprhension, no one who enters the United States unlawfully is ever eligible to become a naturalized citizen.
The rest spend 3-5 years as a permanent resident while completing the requirements to become naturalized.

8 years from the first document I submitted to the day I took the oath. That's how long it took for me. By that point I'd been here 21 years. And I was legal.

Gil Bang · May 27

7 hours ago, Superhero said:

That's why I call myself Superhero, because I did it "the way it is supposed to be done". Took a long ass time, but it's worth it.

I wish I could have had family and friends at my citizen ceremony. But this was in LA, and there were probably over 1,000 people being sworn in.

Yes. Make the wall taller, but the gate wider. Allow people who abide by the laws, bring skills and willingness to work (even seasonal farm workers) into the country.

And willingness to work, and integrate into American society.

Holy Crap! I knew you were of Chinese descent, but I had no idea that you were an immigrant. You should tell your story some day.

Helobious · May 27

7 hours ago, Superhero said:

And willingness to work, and integrate into American society.

What’s more American than not wanting to work?

F250 · May 27

46 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What’s more American than not wanting to work?

Working is for migrants.

52-80 · May 27

13 hours ago, Parliament said:

Everyone with working skills and a clean arrest record should be allowed to be an American. We need their talent and their taxes.

what skills are working skills?

956 Worldwide · May 27

17 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just in case you are operating under any misapprhension, no one who enters the United States unlawfully is ever eligible to become a naturalized citizen.

The rest spend 3-5 years as a permanent resident while completing the requirements to become naturalized.

Um, sure you can and it happens all the time. Most common way is to get a petition approved as an immediate family member of an American citizen, usually spouse. File a provisional waiver of unlawful presence, get your interview scheduled at a consulate once approved, and come back. The waiting is several months for paperwork approval but you don’t have to do it outside of the U.S. anymore.

Maybe a week of travel for the farthest destination, then come back on a regular immigrant visa and after the waiting period you can be a citizen like anyone else.

Parliament · May 27

7 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

17 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just in case you are operating under any misapprhension, no one who enters the United States unlawfully is ever eligible to become a naturalized citizen.
The rest spend 3-5 years as a permanent resident while completing the requirements to become naturalized.

8 years from the first document I submitted to the day I took the oath. That's how long it took for me. By that point I'd been here 21 years. And I was legal.

Thank you for your patience. I hope you bought lotsa guns and voted Republican. (jk)

7 hours ago, Helobious said:

What’s more American than not wanting to work?

Not working whilst posting on Surly?

austingirl · May 27

That's awesome. Congrats to your friend.

YGIFS · May 27

7 hours ago, 52-80 said:

what skills are working skills?

Chicks dig dudes with skills /dynamite

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