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I was stationed in Florida for almost 9 years. East coast and west coast.  There were always these urban legends about hurricane protections for our area in Tampa and Cape Canaveral.  Everything from ancient Indian prayers to curvature of the earth.    
 

the first story was cape Canaveral and how it’s never taken a direct shot with the infrastructure on the point it would be catastrophic.    Hurricane Michael in 2018 was a dead shot heading right for us and st 2am it turned north right at the last minute and smashed Daytona.  
 

Tampa hasn’t been direct hit in over 100 years or something like that due to an ancient Indian protection.   To see this storm shifting south at the last minute is wild.  No I don’t beleive this shit. But it’s really wild 

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:39 PM, MNLonghornFUKM said:


In one of my group chats, an old tailgating buddy of mine says his inlaws in punta gorda got out and are watching it unfold from Bismarck ND…but the inlaws sister/husband are hunkering down in punta gorda because “their house is hurricane proof”

Looking at their house address it’s less than a mile from Charolette harbor/peace river. Idiots. Then I’m like do you get sad or mad at a potential casualty like this?

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Glad I was able to convince at least 2 people to get out of the potential surge zone, but it was getting fairly exhausting thinking about it and how to convince them what they were doing was potentially very dangerous. Was getting to the point where I felt like I did what I could and if they didn't listen, they were just gonna have to FAFO and hopefully it was just a highly unpleasant experience and not a deadly one...

  On 10/9/2024 at 2:37 PM, Brisketexan said:

Something like that.  The joules of energy involved in a hurricane are staggering.....yet we have a cascade of idiots, including elected officials, who think that "they" are manipulating the weather to create and steer these beasts.  With fucking WHAT?  We don't possess ANYTHING capable of being more than a fart in a tornado in terms of influence on something with that much energy.  "They have a 1 trillion watt laser!"  Cool....that won't do shit.  The weaponized stupidity that is now involved in how we handle weather events....man, it's something.

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The morons on social media right now insisting that the "gubmint is doing all this and making the storms worse/could make them go away but hey wont" has really got me at wits end...like is this how dumb we have gotten as a society??

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A few people have brought it up recently in this thread - for 95% of the people the surge/wind isn’t the problem it’s the aftermath with no power and water. The debris everywhere. The smell. It’s fucking miserable. For close to a month or more. After Harvey I came back home to Port A 2 days after landfall but stayed most nights in Corpus where there was power. I was lucky and was able to find a place to stay. That’s one of the hardest (and most expensive) things to do and I imagine it will be much harder in Florida as it’s a more densely populated area.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:38 PM, Brisketexan said:

Dear God....won't somebody think of the carnies and circus people?

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Only thing that storm is doing is swirling the mosquitos around and pissing off the pythons

  On 10/9/2024 at 2:45 PM, texasdago said:

Pretty crazy when you consider how far Weston is from the action.

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I like being out of the cone, but the SE side is always dirty and squally.  Our wind won't pick up for another 6hrs or so

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I've been watching the traffic maps for the last three days. There is never any red, besides a couple of small spots every now and then at 75 near the villages. Then you see the news and anecdotal social media accounts that the freeways are at a standstill. So either those are lies/inaccurate, or they are purposely manipulating the real-time traffic maps to not scare people from evacuating.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:48 PM, sidis said:

i have to be honest...i am a little bit surprised that pimphand's appearance on here has not yet shifted to space lasers controlled by "them" generating hurricanes targeting different populations. shouldn't be too much longer though.

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Whatever you sheeeeeeeep. OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!

if you don’t think the reverse vampires in conjunction with Soros/Jewish Galactic Federation are making this happen, I don’t know what to tell you. 

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:50 PM, Ted Lange said:

I've been watching the traffic maps for the last three days. There is never any red, besides a couple of small spots every now and then at 75 near the villages. Then you see the news and anecdotal social media accounts that the freeways are at a standstill. So either those are lies/inaccurate, or they are purposely manipulating the real-time traffic maps to not scare people from evacuating.

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My son was planning to drive from Orlando to Alababama to go rock climbing with friends.  Fuck coming home to see mom and dad.   I-75 was a mess when he planned to leave (Monday night), so he waited overnight and drove up Tuesday morning.  He had some traffic at Wildwood and Gainesville but otherwise smooth sailing.  No problems getting gas.   

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:45 PM, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Glad I was able to convince at least 2 people to get out of the potential surge zone, but it was getting fairly exhausting thinking about it and how to convince them what they were doing was potentially very dangerous. Was getting to the point where I felt like I did what I could and if they didn't listen, they were just gonna have to FAFO and hopefully it was just a highly unpleasant experience and not a deadly one...

The morons on social media right now insisting that the "gubmint is doing all this and making the storms worse/could make them go away but hey wont" has really got me at wits end...like is this how dumb we have gotten as a society??

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There are so many things that Don't Look Up  gets right, including the idiocy of people in the face of an overwhelming force of nature:

 

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Unless you live in an underground bunker or concrete house with bullet proof windows, your house isn't hurricane proof for this storm.  The dry stack boat marina outside of Rockport was rated for a Cat 3 storm and Harvey peeled them like an onion.  Those Spanish tile roofs everyone loves to have on coastal homes?  They make terrible shrapnel when the wind starts peeling them off roofs.

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  On 10/8/2024 at 10:54 PM, Updawg said:


Empty Galveston bay permanently?

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yes sir

do you want to ensure you save houston?

the 1953 north sea flood killed 2500 in nederland

the response was the deltaworks

the dutch made ocean control a keystone of their National Security

harris county was built by morons - if you want to prevent a potential trillion dollar catastrophe it's possible

or, do nothing, faafo and roll the dice

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works

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we could also build 100 miles of dams in the upper rocky mountains and over a century or so impound a small ocean at altitude which would quench the yellowstone caldera

but this would entail a reduction of 10% of the military budget for a project to benefit future generations hundreds or thousands of years from now or possibly never

so, we will faafo on that one too

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  On 10/9/2024 at 3:15 PM, Bert Orange said:

And Milton has lost his eye and some steam. Weakening has begun. 

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Thankfully.  Still forecasted to be a major hurricane at land fall.  And the radius of hurricane force winds has increased from 30 miles from the center to 35 miles from the center.  That width is forecasted to increase before landfall, but hopefully it stays relatively narrow.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:50 PM, Ted Lange said:

I've been watching the traffic maps for the last three days. There is never any red, besides a couple of small spots every now and then at 75 near the villages. Then you see the news and anecdotal social media accounts that the freeways are at a standstill. So either those are lies/inaccurate, or they are purposely manipulating the real-time traffic maps to not scare people from evacuating.

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Yeah, I have been checking Google Maps and it looks like traffic on the roads is almost non-existent.  One would think the bulk of people left so anyone leaving now while there is still time would be able to haul ass.  

 

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:37 PM, Brisketexan said:

Something like that.  The joules of energy involved in a hurricane are staggering.....yet we have a cascade of idiots, including elected officials, who think that "they" are manipulating the weather to create and steer these beasts.  With fucking WHAT?  We don't possess ANYTHING capable of being more than a fart in a tornado in terms of influence on something with that much energy.  "They have a 1 trillion watt laser!"  Cool....that won't do shit.  The weaponized stupidity that is now involved in how we handle weather events....man, it's something.

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Tell us about the island tilting as well....

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:48 PM, sidis said:

i have to be honest...i am a little bit surprised that pimphand's appearance on here has not yet shifted to space lasers controlled by "them" generating hurricanes targeting different populations. shouldn't be too much longer though.

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IT's too bad our buddy who was tortured by Cristiano Ronaldo's favorite people is no longer on here.   I'd love to hear his "Theory of Everything: Hurricanes Expansion Pack"  

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Pretty cool interview on CNN with a director at Tampa General Hospital, talking about their "AquaFence" that provides surge protection up to 15 feet.  It worked perfectly during Helene:

Tampa General fortifies for Ian with 'aqua fence,' water-tight doors

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  On 10/9/2024 at 12:29 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:

This was already workshopped in 2009 by the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Committe, then updated in 2020.  Article is from Sept 2020:

https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2020/08/14/hurricane-phoenix-is-tampa-bays-devastating-worst-case-scenario/

 

 

 

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fwiw, the a dutch dude with an ocean control doctorate told me 15 years ago that jacksonville is the only florida coastal city they could protect with a project like the delta works

daytona, space coast, all of south florida and all of west florida south of the bend are a lost cause unless we built 1000 miles of dikes and basically built a dam around the entire state

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  On 10/9/2024 at 3:26 PM, Hagbard Celine said:

yes, permanently

it will take several years to pump the water out

it can't be done in hours, days, weeks, or months

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Yep.  The lack of understanding of most people of the VOLUME of water we're talking about in floods, and how it moves (how long it takes, how much of it there is) is amazing. 

"When they hear a hurricane is coming, why don't they just release water from the lakes to make room for the rainfall????"

Cool, cool.  So, let's say we're expecting a catastrophic amount of rain.  100,000 acre feet are going to fall into the basin of lake X.  Lake X can release 5,000 acre feet of water a day without causing catastrophic floods downstream.  So...it'll take 20 days to make room for that flood.  In the meantime, these are the unknowns, based on the fact that we KNOW hurricanes change path right up till the end:

1) what if the hurricane drops most of its rainfall DOWNSTREAM of the dam?   Now the dam has just dumped 5,000 acre feet of water into the waterway, making downstream flooding WORSE than it would have been without the release.

2) what if the hurricane whiffs entirely, turning west by 100 miles?  Now you've dumped your summer drinking water supply downstream, not to be replaced.  Everyone goes on water rationing for the next year.

3) and again.....what did you gain?  If you start dumping 5 days before landfall, based on a wildly uncertain forecast, you empty only 25,000 acre feet of storage.  Which the flood (if it happens) fills up like that....and then you STILL have a flood.

The volume of water in hurricane-driven floods, and the unpredictability of where the rain is going to actually fall, mean that any efforts we make to pre-plan and "prevent" the flood are folly, especially in more flat-land areas (where lakes are only 30 feet deep, as opposed to 230 feet deep in the steep hill country).

But even in Helene, you have people bitching because "why didn't they empty all the lakes beforehand??!!"  Because they couldn't be certain where it was going to go, you don't just drain lakes based on an uncertain forecast, and if they got it wrong, the flood caused by those massive releases combined with downstream rainfall would have made things even worse.

  On 10/9/2024 at 3:44 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Yes, there are no structures capable of handling the tub surge of a preschool boy.

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Or when he sticks his dingus up out of the water and says "look!  It's a periscope!"  My wife left the room.  I couldn't stop laughing.

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Dammit.

ETA: Uncle and his family bugged out of Bradenton yesterday to stay with friends in Orlando.  Hope everyone else there does something similar.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:03 PM, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Better late than never but finally convinced the future in-laws to gtfo of their house that's in Sarasota Evacuation Zone C and move a bit inland to family house that's outside the surge hazard area at least, still gonna suck ass with all the wind but might at least have kept them from getting surged/flooded out. Boomers are stubborn as hell...

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1. Are the in-laws loaded?

2. Is there a prenup involved in the upcoming nuptials?

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:42 PM, Pimphand said:

Yeah and there are people on I75 evacuating through a tornado warning.  I thought evactuation was 100% safe per some surlyites 😉

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You’re supposed to evacuate before the event, not during it. But you know that, and just can’t help but be a fuckface for whatever reason. 

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  On 10/9/2024 at 3:31 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Pretty cool interview on CNN with a director at Tampa General Hospital, talking about their "AquaFence" that provides surge protection up to 15 feet.  It worked perfectly during Helene:

Tampa General fortifies for Ian with 'aqua fence,' water-tight doors

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Aqua fence about to be printing money, like the "Plylox," guy.

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  On 10/9/2024 at 2:45 PM, Evil Bill Obrien said:

The morons on social media right now insisting that the "gubmint is doing all this and making the storms worse/could make them go away but hey wont" has really got me at wits end...like is this how dumb we have gotten as a society??

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No, it's not.  We won't know how dumb we've gotten until an idea is floated that is so unbelievably stupid that it is rejected out of hand by even the dumbest among us.  There is still plenty of room to grow more stupid.

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