2024 Hurricane Season thread of DOOM

[UnivTex34 1763]

Mother of god. 898, and they missed the eye!

 

those numbers will be lower.

[UnivTex34 1763]

Also, no evidence of EWRC. This sonova bitch is still strengthening 

[The Dog 43857]

 

[GenXer 2790]

55 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

How was the sex?

Unusual

[tx 3 putt 76503]

Totally normal weather behavior …
 

 

[Rip76 4915]

Sub 900

5th lowest on record in the Atlantic.

Wilma 2005 - 882 mb
Gilbert 1988 - 888 mb
"Labor Day" 1935 - 892 mb
Rita 2005 - 895 mb
Milton 2024 - 897 mb
Allen 1979 - 899 mb
Camille 1969 - 900 mb
Katrina 2005 - 902 mb

[TonyTexas 10485]

Such a strange storm. Per this article, nothing like this has occurred since 1888. 
https://www.clickorlando.com/weather/hurricane/2024/10/07/not-since-1888-heres-why-hurricane-miltons-path-is-so-rare/

[UnivTex34 1763]

183 knots at the Surface. (211 mph). Sustained.

[kevwun 15675]

This thing has typhoon strength.

[Brisketexan 104747]

15 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Totally normal weather behavior …
 

 

The boy just moved to Mainz for the academic year.  I got to laughingly send him a "so, prepare your anus for a tropical storm" text.  He asks WTF, then looks up the weather.  Well, well, well.  I suspect the euros won't know what to do, and will flip their shit.

6 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

183 knots at the Surface. (211 mph). Sustained.

Wait...where are you getting that.  211 mph winds?  For real?  Source?

[Zonahorn 8079]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The boy just moved to Mainz for the academic year.  I got to laughingly send him a "so, prepare your anus for a tropical storm" text.  He asks WTF, then looks up the weather.  Well, well, well.  I suspect the euros won't know what to do, and will flip their shit.

Wait...where are you getting that.  211 mph winds?  For real?  Source?

 

the mb reading is how high above the ground the measurement is, the kt is the measured wind speed in knots

Edited October 7 by Zonahorn

[ClubWhatever 12087]

18 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

Sub 900

5th lowest on record in the Atlantic.

Wilma 2005 - 882 mb
Gilbert 1988 - 888 mb
"Labor Day" 1935 - 892 mb
Rita 2005 - 895 mb
Milton 2024 - 897 mb
Allen 1979 - 899 mb
Camille 1969 - 900 mb
Katrina 2005 - 902 mb

It's not in the Atlantic

[Brisketexan 104747]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

It's not in the Atlantic

Yes it is -- that means "the Atlantic basin."  For US hurricane purposes, we have Atlantic hurricanes, and Pacific hurricanes.  Gulf hurricanes are Atlantic hurricanes.

[UnivTex34 1763]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The boy just moved to Mainz for the academic year.  I got to laughingly send him a "so, prepare your anus for a tropical storm" text.  He asks WTF, then looks up the weather.  Well, well, well.  I suspect the euros won't know what to do, and will flip their shit.

Wait...where are you getting that.  211 mph winds?  For real?  Source?

Zona got it.

 

also: 

 

[chainsaw 9838]

36 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

898

BEACHFRONT AVENUE!

[Tailgate 3019]

I was a toddler when we lost our home to Hurricane Camille.

Unreal night I still remember even though I wasn’t even two yet.

Luckily my Maw Maw lived in higher area and we got there in the middle of the night in Mississippi.

You don’t “ride these out.” Get out now if you’re remotely close to any of these areas.

[Telegraph_it 3354]

15 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

 

the mb reading is how high above the ground the measurement is, the kt is the measured wind speed in knots

That dropsonde made it halfway around the eye wall before hitting the gulf. 
 

[Ted Lange 16055]

Camille caused 12 billion in damage in today's $.   If Milton stays the course and is a direct hit to Tampa, the damage will be close to 20 times that.

[HouTex 1851]

35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yes it is -- that means "the Atlantic basin."  For US hurricane purposes, we have Atlantic hurricanes, and Pacific hurricanes.  Gulf hurricanes are Atlantic hurricanes.

Wow.  In perhaps 12+ years on this and the other site, this is the first post in which we are in agreement.  Bravo.

[0xdeadbeef 1627]

I don't recall ever seeing TWO hurricane Hunter planes in the storm at the same time.  Both the AirForce plane and the NOAA plane are zig-zagging in the storm right now.

NOAA2 Mission #10 into MILTON
Type: Low-level Reconnaissance  |  Status: In Storm
As of 23:34 UTC Oct 07, 2024:

Aircraft Position: 21.78°N 90.48°W
Bearing: 0° at 240 kt
Altitude: 1783 gpm
Peak 10-second Wind: 150 kt at 280°
Extrapolated Sea-level Pressure: 916.9 mb

AF302 Mission #11 into MILTON
Type: Low-level Reconnaissance  |  Status: In Storm
As of 23:32 UTC Oct 07, 2024:

Aircraft Position: 22.30°N 91.12°W
Bearing: 135° at 164 kt
Altitude: 3078 gpm
Peak 10-second Wind: 46 kt at 22°
Extrapolated Sea-level Pressure: 995.7 mb

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/

 

 

[Surly Bevo 24717]

17 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Camille caused 12 billion in damage in today's $.   If Milton stays the course and is a direct hit to Tampa, the damage will be close to 20 times that.

We've built a lot of shit and added a lot more people to this country in the past 55 years.

[0xdeadbeef 1627]

7PM NHC update ...5th all-time Atlantic pressure

 

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...180 MPH...285 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...E OR 90 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...897 MB...26.49 INCHES

[Rip76 4915]

Good thing will be the shear near Florida at or near the time of landfall.

[UnivTex34 1763]

Double Maxima confirmed by Teal 71. EWRC inbound, so we likely missed peak earlier this afternoon. However, we could have second peak tomorrow afternoon when Milton reaches the loop current. Probably wont make another run sub 900, but who the fuck knows.

[Rip76 4915]

That loop current will be tricky.  I just wonder if it will be moving into some shear soon.

[Tailgate 3019]

33 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Camille caused 12 billion in damage in today's $.   If Milton stays the course and is a direct hit to Tampa, the damage will be close to 20 times that.

My house didn’t care….but yes…this will be unreal if it plays out.

[Gatorubet 30139]

3 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

More vulnerable than New Orleans? Interesting

Dude, we have billions of dollars of corp of engineers-created high walls around our little burg.    We’ll be like Fallout - with Vault NO survivors having better things to eat.

[Evil Bill Obrien 3217]

36 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Camille caused 12 billion in damage in today's $.   If Milton stays the course and is a direct hit to Tampa, the damage will be close to 20 times that.

Inflation and development in hurricane prone areas is a bitch

[BamaATL 16592]

2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

tide goes in, tide goes out

Well good news, I know how to stop that, just put the Vandy offense on the field.  

[tx 3 putt 76503]

3 hours ago, kevwun said:

Most houses next to the water would be gone if that track holds.  Whatever the wind doesn't get, the storm surge will just knock off of their foundations.

 

yeah, winds 160+ is going to blow many many roofs off, the entire building following it down the street 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6556]

My brother has a town home on Sand Key.  The island just south of Clearwater Beach.  He is still cleaning up from the storm a few weeks ago that brought 4 feet of water into his lower level (garage and office).  He just finished ripping the drywall out and now this storm is about to hit.  He is evacuating off the island to my nephews house who live farther inland and a little north of Tampa.  Scary stuff as I was in Hurricane Andrew years ago in South Florida and don’t with that shit on anybody.  

[chainsaw 9838]

Just now, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

farther inland and a little north of Tampa

how "little" north we talking?

[Royalfan5 2348]

Dying in storm like this has to be one of the worst ways to go right? You’d know you fucked up real good by not leaving for a while before the end wouldn’t you? 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6556]

Just now, chainsaw said:

how "little" north we talking?

Not sure.  He just moved in his home.  I think 45 minutes north of Tampa and inland more towards Orlando so not near the water.  He is young so he moved to the cheap burbs. 

[Surly Bevo 24717]

2 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Dying in storm like this has to be one of the worst ways to go right? You’d know you fucked up real good by not leaving for a while before the end wouldn’t you? 

Not if you did a bunch of bath salts and then shot yourself in the face.  And let's be real, we ARE talking about Florida Man here

[SizzleChest 8276]

7 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Dying in storm like this has to be one of the worst ways to go right? You’d know you fucked up real good by not leaving for a while before the end wouldn’t you? 

 

[BamaATL 16592]

8 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Dying in storm like this has to be one of the worst ways to go right? You’d know you fucked up real good by not leaving for a while before the end wouldn’t you? 

Not necessarily, I mean you could get decapitated by flying debris, or knocked out by debris and drown.  But yeah, beyond that its probably drowning and having to embrace that terror, or being crushed by debris and suffocating, or exposure, or hypothermia, .....

[Bevo 13532]

9 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

My brother has a town home on Sand Key.  The island just south of Clearwater Beach.  He is still cleaning up from the storm a few weeks ago that brought 4 feet of water into his lower level (garage and office).  He just finished ripping the drywall out and now this storm is about to hit.  He is evacuating off the island to my nephews house who live farther inland and a little north of Tampa.  Scary stuff as I was in Hurricane Andrew years ago in South Florida and don’t with that shit on anybody.  

I think these storms show that a beach house should use steel or ICF construction and maybe move away from drywall and towards a breathable yet water resistant wall covering with the first floor above most storm surges. And use tile instead of wood or carpet. It wouldn’t be perfect but would be an improvement.

[Gatorubet 30139]

54 minutes ago, HouTex said:

Wow.  In perhaps 12+ years on this and the other site, this is the first post in which we are in agreement.  Bravo.

Now THAT is how you damn with faint praise.

[GreenspointTexas 9568]

Ill never understand why people build on/near water, especially in the gulf/south atlantic. Id like to say i feel for them, but….

 

and this is coming from a lifelong resident of a city that should have never been built. People were pretty much swindled into coming here by the Allen Brothers. 

[tokamak 6353]

1 hour ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

I don't recall ever seeing TWO hurricane Hunter planes in the storm at the same time.  Both the AirForce plane and the NOAA plane are zig-zagging in the storm right now.

NOAA2 Mission #10 into MILTON
Type: Low-level Reconnaissance  |  Status: In Storm
As of 23:34 UTC Oct 07, 2024:

Aircraft Position: 21.78°N 90.48°W
Bearing: 0° at 240 kt
Altitude: 1783 gpm
Peak 10-second Wind: 150 kt at 280°
Extrapolated Sea-level Pressure: 916.9 mb

AF302 Mission #11 into MILTON
Type: Low-level Reconnaissance  |  Status: In Storm
As of 23:32 UTC Oct 07, 2024:

Aircraft Position: 22.30°N 91.12°W
Bearing: 135° at 164 kt
Altitude: 3078 gpm
Peak 10-second Wind: 46 kt at 22°
Extrapolated Sea-level Pressure: 995.7 mb

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/

 

 

That seems incredibly dangerous to me

[BamaATL 16592]

5 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I think these storms show that a beach house should use steel or ICF construction and maybe move away from drywall and towards a breathable yet water resistant wall covering with the first floor above most storm surges. And use tile instead of wood or carpet. It wouldn’t be perfect but would be an improvement.

I am familiar with breathable membranes for weatherproofing, but to my knowledge there really isn't a finish material that does this.  I've read a few articles on design ideas for homes in hurricane zones (I think some concepts have even been built), most all of them that I recall were reinforced concrete domes, with the windows being above storm surge height (the general idea being that with the curvature of the doom you would still get ample natural light).  The obvious downside of this is the cost, combined with the subjective notion that it's just unsightly.  

With regular old steel, including in wall cavities one of the concerns would be exposure to salt water and material degradation.  Encased in concrete, it's a different story though.  

The point sure stands though, if people are intent on living in these areas, which it sure appears that they are, we are going to have to rethink how we do this.  

[LTtxfan 49018]

1 hour ago, Tailgate said:

You don’t “ride these out.” Get out now if you’re remotely close to any of these areas.

Absolutely... anyone that can leave GTFO!!! 💥

[The Dog 43857]

PM EDT: This is nothing short of astronomical. I am at a loss for words to meteorologically describe you the storms small eye and intensity. 897mb pressure with 180 MPH max sustained winds and gusts 200+ MPH. This is now the 4th strongest hurricane ever recorded by pressure on this side of the world. The eye is TINY at nearly 3.8 miles wide. This hurricane is nearing the mathematical limit of what Earth's atmosphere over this ocean water can produce.

[Bevo 13532]

1 minute ago, BamaATL said:

I am familiar with breathable membranes for weatherproofing, but to my knowledge there really isn't a finish material that does this.  I've read a few articles on design ideas for homes in hurricane zones (I think some concepts have even been built), most all of them that I recall were reinforced concrete domes, with the windows being above storm surge height (the general idea being that with the curvature of the doom you would still get ample natural light).  The obvious downside of this is the cost, combined with the subjective notion that it's just unsightly.  

With regular old steel, including in wall cavities one of the concerns would be exposure to salt water and material degradation.  Encased in concrete, it's a different story though.  

The point sure stands though, if people are intent on living in these areas, which it sure appears that they are, we are going to have to rethink how we do this.  

yeah, I’m no expert as I am building in the mountains. The interior finish out would be difficult. I’ve seen some pretty fiber cement board that would work. But if every house was done that way, it would make for pretty bland interiors. And you bring up a good point on steel framing but most of the steel framing companies are on the gulf coast because of the claim of hurricane resistance. I’m on vacation in Maine and only brought my phone, but I’m curious what the manufacturers are saying about saltwater. 

[troph 24593]

This makes me so sad. I wish we could listen to scientists and we coulda acted sooner. The destruction coming is going to bring so much stress, trauma, death and loss. Makes me so sad. 

[Sawbonz 27447]

Fuck. We stayed at a great little VRBO on longboat key last summer and loved it. Was driving around on the north end and saw a great little place that was for sale and was thinking about making an offer and then 16 yo son who is a fishing fanatic said don’t do it this island won’t be here in 10 years.
 

Shit he was way too optimistic 

[Rip76 4915]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

This makes me so sad. I wish we could listen to scientists and we coulda acted sooner. The destruction coming is going to bring so much stress, trauma, death and loss. Makes me so sad. 

Explain.

[Born to Run 6568]

36 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Dying in storm like this has to be one of the worst ways to go right? You’d know you fucked up real good by not leaving for a while before the end wouldn’t you? 

Reading some accounts of storms that hit Indianola in the 1800s and The Great Storm of 1900 are terrifying.  Literal bodies in trees, people chopping through attics only to drown on the roof, lashing themselves to anything that floats.

Hell on earth.

[Rip76 4915]

910 mb now.