2024 Hurricane Season thread of DOOM

[Slacks 6792]

Ain't gonna be a whole lotta looting. Ain't gonna be a whole lot of doing anything for a bit.

[atomheartbevo 89477]

2 hours ago, The Dog said:

PM EDT: This is nothing short of astronomical. I am at a loss for words to meteorologically describe you the storms small eye and intensity. 897mb pressure with 180 MPH max sustained winds and gusts 200+ MPH. This is now the 4th strongest hurricane ever recorded by pressure on this side of the world. The eye is TINY at nearly 3.8 miles wide. This hurricane is nearing the mathematical limit of what Earth's atmosphere over this ocean water can produce.

[bolverk 29451]

18 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Fire/Boom.  It's not political, in fact, it is chemistry and science.

A real-life demonstration of that science: https://www.wesh.com/article/hurricane-helene-fires-electric-vehicles/62491329

 

[troph 24593]

50 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:

It’s not an inconvenient truth; it’s annoying. The misanthropic, morbid opinings that serve no purpose other than to highlight the already painfully obvious are very Brisket-esque and mostly lead to stupid derailments. This is actually a good/fun thread to follow, including Troph posts that aren’t like the aforementioned one.

Fair enough. I’ve been living on an existential ledge personally for the last 3 months due to health shit so I’m really on edge about a number of things. Thankfully it seems to be nearly over. 

 

[utee94 15746]

10 minutes ago, troph said:

Fair enough. I’ve been living on an existential ledge personally for the last 3 months due to health shit so I’m really on edge about a number of things. Thankfully it seems to be nearly over. 

 

Glad things are looking up, take care of yourself.  

Just no point to worrying about that which you can't control.  Get right in your own mind, body, and spirit.

And never forget that ou still sucks.

[Brew 3049]

42 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Those are interesting ideas, as was the aforementioned wainscotting idea (though I don't know the foam insulation capability of being repeatedly soaked).  I'm not sure how builders to scale this, but it would at least appear the cost difference would be negligible.  

The ones we looked at had standard insulation, it was just separate sections at the break line in external material so it could easily be removed and replaced. Kind of a weird thought to be building them with basically easily replaceable materials 12-14 feet off the ground, but that’s the world we currently live in.

[Brew 3049]

1 hour ago, Herbie Hancock said:

It’s not an inconvenient truth; it’s annoying. The misanthropic, morbid opinings that serve no purpose other than to highlight the already painfully obvious are very Brisket-esque and mostly lead to stupid derailments. This is actually a good/fun thread to follow, including Troph posts that aren’t like the aforementioned one.

Nothing more “fun” than widespread destruction with a little death mixed in I suppose. However, I’m on the Troph side of this one, it fucking sucks. I’ve spent a large portion of my life on the West Coast of FL and the last couple of years have been a real kick in the nuts to a lot of people we know.

[InkaUtexas 25543]

12 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, I'm pretty spry at the moment, but at this point there are any number of reasons we're losing interest, perhaps topped by "Floridians".  We like water and beaches but even my wife is starting to think a nice smaller house in New Mexico (with a really nice pool) may be closer to ideal.

Basically, we're sick of assholes and weather.

Assholes? And you said New Mexico?

[troph 24593]

Btw we have an ICF home and about the only thing it will do in extreme flooding is leave an external frame standing. The interior would be completely wrecked with a 6 foot (let alone a 10-15 foot) storm surge. There’s still a ton of finish out, interior walls, insulation, etc that would just be fucked in a flood like what’s coming. We even have plaster (concrete) walls instead of paint but sheet rock is under the plaster.  So unless it’s ICF with not much else and steel internal studs for the walls and no sheet rock then you’re still gonna be mostly screwed in a flood situation. Winds, shhheit, no problem at all - except the roof probably. Back to that pesky water getting inside. 

Edited October 8 by troph

[Born to Run 6568]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

I'm pretty sure she's referring to the heads-up we were given 40 years ago, in response to which we collectively buried our heads.

Look, chica, none of us particularly like to be told, "I told you so." But as pigheaded about climate change, as many on this board have been, it's well warranted. I'm sorry if that's an inconvenient truth.

It's Always in the high 90s for OU do your own research!!!

[troph 24593]

3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Assholes? And you said New Mexico?

Move to Santa Fe and just say you’re gay and you’ll have plenty of friends. 

Just now, Born to Run said:

It's Always in the high 90s for OU do your own research!!!

That one time it rained in 1984. Don’t make me tell that story again. 

[Born to Run 6568]

1 hour ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

If we ever wanted to test the idea of killing a hurricane with a nuclear bomb, now is the perfect time.  I'm sure Tampa would be OK with it.  What's the worst that could happen? Mutant-Florida-Man?

 

<It's a joke while we're waiting for the next update; please don't CR the thread>

 

Redirect it via sharpie?

 

No CR

[Born to Run 6568]

2 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

 

It's a huge dong sticking out into the major path of hurricanes. Unsurprising. 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

I have a cousin on the outskirts of Tampa, really smart guy, couple of masters degrees (comp sci, math), late 20s, nice job.
And he told his mom on FaceTime tonight that he wasn’t evacuating, because looters.  Even though he’s been told that power will be cut to his area.
She said there’s some mandatory evacuations in the area and he’ll probably have to go, but she was pissed.

You’re going to have to go after his math brain.

Unless he’s a trust fund kid a grad degreed guy in their 20s doesn’t have much that can’t be replaced at Walmart.

Grab the computers, jewelry, personal documents, photos, any expensive cameras and leave.

Also ask him what he is going to do without power, water, internet, etc for a 2-3 weeks.

[BamaATL 16592]

14 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

You’re going to have to go after his math brain.

Unless he’s a trust fund kid a grad degreed guy in their 20s doesn’t have much that can’t be replaced at Walmart.

Grab the computers, jewelry, personal documents, photos, any expensive cameras and leave.

Also ask him what he is going to do without power, water, internet, etc for a 2-3 weeks.

This is a real good point, what exactly does a typical person in their 20s have that they can't take with them and that is worth losing their life over?  Yeah, it might suck to lose some stuff, but at the end of the day, it's all stuff.  I lost everything in a fire in my 20s, in a strange way, it was liberating, I don't think I'll ever feel overly attached to material things again (I wouldn't say I was hugely that way to begin with, but even less so after that).  

Someone's life, especially a young persons, is so much more valuable than any of the crap we keep, and for the most part, it's all crap.  I sincerely hope you can appeal to this person's senses.  

[Zepol87 9172]

I was supposed to fly to Tampa today for the week but decided to say fuck that and went to our Vegas office. Got a bitch ass email from my director in Denver who is a trumper telling me I didn’t get approval for this change even though I did. Now he is being a super bitch wanting to run disaster recovery shit. He is an Aggie and fake military. I am at the mgm and drunk so I might get fired 

[tx 3 putt 76502]

30 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

You’re going to have to go after his math brain.

Unless he’s a trust fund kid a grad degreed guy in their 20s doesn’t have much that can’t be replaced at Walmart.

Grab the computers, jewelry, personal documents, photos, any expensive cameras and leave.

Also ask him what he is going to do without power, water, internet, etc for a 2-3 weeks.

 

 no water for many days 

Edited October 8 by tx 3 putt

[Gatorubet 30139]

2 hours ago, Herbie Hancock said:

The misanthropic, morbid opinings that serve no purpose other than to highlight the already painfully obvious are very Brisket-esque and mostly lead to stupid derailments. 

Longest New Surly Motto evah?

2 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

I was supposed to fly to Tampa today for the week but decided to say fuck that and went to our Vegas office. Got a bitch ass email from my director in Denver who is a trumper telling me I didn’t get approval for this change even though I did. Now he is being a super bitch wanting to run disaster recovery shit. He is an Aggie and fake military. I am at the mgm and drunk so I might get fired 

Do it! gif

[BamaATL 16592]

8 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

I was supposed to fly to Tampa today for the week but decided to say fuck that and went to our Vegas office. Got a bitch ass email from my director in Denver who is a trumper telling me I didn’t get approval for this change even though I did. Now he is being a super bitch wanting to run disaster recovery shit. He is an Aggie and fake military. I am at the mgm and drunk so I might get fired 

Irrespective of outcome with the job, you have chosen correctly.  

[Zepol87 9172]

He’s a dumb fuck. Hardcore the media overblown the coverage. I’m fine I’m just drunk talking shit just pisses me off that now he wants to talk about disaster recovery . Mfer stay in Denver I don’t need your bitch ass

[DDD Dad 14269]

44 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Also ask him what he is going to do without power, water, internet, etc for a 2-3 weeks.

This. Andrew hit on August 24. We didn’t get power back at the house until the first week of October. Downtown Miami was without water for over a week. 

[Hawndoh 2382]

Maybe when he said he didn't want to evacuate because of looting he meant he wanted to go do some looting 

[choripan 790]

My dad and stepmom have a place in Naples and I think this is the second time it's going to get slammed in about 5-10 years.

Naples is one of the most culturally disgusting places I've ever been, a suburban hellscape with a bunch of super entitled east coast and midwest Boomers treating a largely brown Spanish-speaking or white trash underclass like "the help." My dad and stepmom are cool, but some sort of supermajority of people are like that. Including my uncle and aunt, who also have a place down there. When we visit them at their high-class condo complex (which I admit is kind of cool with a resort-level pool complex, poolside bar, etc.) I am beyond embarrassed watching how they and the other residents treat the pool staff, bartenders, and so on. Same goes for watching people interact at restaurants and in stores. Everyone there has "made it" because they've paid some ungodly amount to live in the Villages by the Sea.

And although it would harm my (small) inheritance -- he's a retired autoworker who got beat to shit over 30+ years on the job and lives off his pension -- I don't feel that bad for the jerks that get their reckoning (condos/houses, cars, etc.), though I hope the underclass makes it through safe and sound, both physically and financially.

[Iceman 2650]

"I want to possibly die or at least be in the greatest peril of my lifetime to protect my X-box and the Fleshlight."

 

Yep, sounds like someone extremely intelligent without an ounce of street sense.

[CleverNickname 1296]

17 minutes ago, choripan said:

Naples is one of the most culturally disgusting places I've ever been, a suburban hellscape with a bunch of super entitled east coast and midwest Boomers treating a largely brown Spanish-speaking or white trash underclass like "the help." My dad and stepmom are cool, but some sort of supermajority of people are like that. Including my uncle and aunt, who also have a place down there. When we visit them at their high-class condo complex (which I admit is kind of cool with a resort-level pool complex, poolside bar, etc.) I am beyond embarrassed watching how they and the other residents treat the pool staff, bartenders, and so on. Same goes for watching people interact at restaurants and in stores. Everyone there has "made it" because they've paid some ungodly amount to live in the Villages by the Sea.

this completely nails what I hate about Florida. My grandparents lived in Pompano Beach. There was zero feeling of community uniting people. Just haves vs have nots. Maybe central or northern Florida has better vibes.

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

28 minutes ago, choripan said:

My dad and stepmom have a place in Naples and I think this is the second time it's going to get slammed in about 5-10 years.

Naples is one of the most culturally disgusting places I've ever been, a suburban hellscape with a bunch of super entitled east coast and midwest Boomers treating a largely brown Spanish-speaking or white trash underclass like "the help." My dad and stepmom are cool, but some sort of supermajority of people are like that. Including my uncle and aunt, who also have a place down there. When we visit them at their high-class condo complex (which I admit is kind of cool with a resort-level pool complex, poolside bar, etc.) I am beyond embarrassed watching how they and the other residents treat the pool staff, bartenders, and so on. Same goes for watching people interact at restaurants and in stores. Everyone there has "made it" because they've paid some ungodly amount to live in the Villages by the Sea.

And although it would harm my (small) inheritance -- he's a retired autoworker who got beat to shit over 30+ years on the job and lives off his pension -- I don't feel that bad for the jerks that get their reckoning (condos/houses, cars, etc.), though I hope the underclass makes it through safe and sound, both physically and financially.

This is exactly why I spend my weekends in St Pete

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

7:00 Tuesday morning - the lights across the bay are Pasadena on the left and Gulfport on the right. Both significant flooding from Helene

[MNLonghornFUKM 8803]

13 minutes ago, CleverNickname said:

this completely nails what I hate about Florida. My grandparents lived in Pompano Beach. There was zero feeling of community uniting people. Just haves vs have nots. Maybe central or northern Florida has better vibes.

really? Admittedly Ive only been to Southern florida a handful of times-Fort Meyers once, Miami/Keys just like 2-3. We've done family vacations to Melbourne Beach for probably the last 25 years now and Ive never gotten the sense of elitist in that area. we like MB because it isn't exactly swanky/full of tourists and our hotel has a balcony on the beach so we know the area(roads, restaurants) pretty well. Maybe its a central Florida thing vs southern.

 

Although this year our family vacation may happen over Christmas time vs normally easter and we may go further south since its a little warmer than central florida for that time of year

[jimmyjazz 45607]

12 minutes ago, Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

This is exactly why I spend my weekends in St Pete

We once stayed at La Playa in Naples for a few days, and really enjoyed it, but it was pretty isolated from the city proper.  We did get out a bit but mostly just hung out on the beach.

Now, our subsequent trip to St. Pete Beach was awesome.  Much more our speed.  We spent a few days at that giant pink monstrosity, but the little town full of bungalows etc. seemed like the kind of place we could live.

Edited October 8 by jimmyjazz

[heso 2757]

38 minutes ago, Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

7:00 Tuesday morning - the lights across the bay are Pasadena on the left and Gulfport on the right. Both significant flooding from Helene

Isla del sol?

[choripan 790]

42 minutes ago, Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

7:00 Tuesday morning - the lights across the bay are Pasadena on the left and Gulfport on the right. Both significant flooding from Helene

Be safe man. I really hope this is a remote-in to your cam and not "hey, I'm posted up here with 60 Busch Lattes and a Yeti let's rock and roll."

[mdmost 42876]

7 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

He’s a dumb fuck. Hardcore the media overblown the coverage. I’m fine I’m just drunk talking shit just pisses me off that now he wants to talk about disaster recovery . Mfer stay in Denver I don’t need your bitch ass

You should've told him no way you're going to Tampa when "they" can now send hurricanes to red areas with little notice.....

[Nice Guy Eddie 13418]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I have a cousin on the outskirts of Tampa, really smart guy, couple of masters degrees (comp sci, math), late 20s, nice job.

And he told his mom on FaceTime tonight that he wasn’t evacuating, because looters.  Even though he’s been told that power will be cut to his area.

She said there’s some mandatory evacuations in the area and he’ll probably have to go, but she was pissed.

I don’t understand staying back to protect your things from looters. And like someone else said, what does a guy have in his late 20s that looters want that insurance won’t replace. 

[dcbc 14442]

8 hours ago, troph said:

Move to Santa Fe and just say you’re gay and you’ll have plenty of friends. 

That one time it rained in 1984. Don’t make me tell that story again. 

My first UT game.  We got rained on.  Then, we tied.  Ugh.

[butthurt 1521]

 

 

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

42 minutes ago, heso said:

Isla del sol?

Yes

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

39 minutes ago, choripan said:

Be safe man. I really hope this is a remote-in to your cam and not "hey, I'm posted up here with 60 Busch Lattes and a Yeti let's rock and roll."

Appreciate it, no worries it is a ring camera mounted on the balcony, I am south at my house in Naples far enough inland 

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

2 minutes ago, Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

Yes, great location between DTSP and the beach

 

[Evil Bill Obrien 3217]

Very serious situation but doesn’t mean we still can’t have a little gallows humor:

 

will never forget as long as I live the time I was sitting in my apartment in west Houston by the Addicks Reservoir during Harvey and looked up on TV and realized Cantore was across the street helping get people out of an apartment in a rubber raft…

[MNLonghornFUKM 8803]

Think Jim got enough beauty rest after Helene?

[Biff Tannen 45512]

8 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Very serious situation but doesn’t mean we still can’t have a little gallows humor:

 

will never forget as long as I live the time I was sitting in my apartment in west Houston by the Addicks Reservoir during Harvey and looked up on TV and realized Cantore was across the street helping get people out of an apartment in a rubber raft…

This guy's what?

[heso 2757]

22 minutes ago, Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

Yes

Will you lose the feed when the power goes out?

[Deej 76599]

11 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This guy's what?

You know. 

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

6 minutes ago, heso said:

Will you lose the feed when the power goes out?

Yes unfortunately, I have a  UPS on it for quick power hits but any sustained outage will kill it

[SquishMitten 10402]

9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

And he told his mom on FaceTime tonight that he wasn’t evacuating, because looters. 

The “looting” is more likely to be done by the wind and ocean than some enterprising local. 
 

That excuse always confuses me though. I’m fully confident I could get everything I deem irreplaceable packed up into our cars within a couple hours. Everything else is just stuff. As I’m writing this, I’m looking around and wondering what somebody would actually steal. Presumably the TVs, computer monitors, and power tools, but beyond that, everything valuable is so bulky I can’t imagine someone going through the hassle.

[SydneyCarton 47934]

3 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

The “looting” is more likely to be done by the wind and ocean than some enterprising local. 
 

That excuse always confuses me though. I’m fully confident I could get everything I deem irreplaceable packed up into our cars within a couple hours. Everything else is just stuff. As I’m writing this, I’m looking around and wondering what somebody would actually steal. Presumably the TVs, computer monitors, and power tools, but beyond that, everything valuable is so bulky I can’t imagine someone going through the hassle.

The correct answer is your bourbon. If the looter was smart and enterprising.

That being said, all joking aside, I think there's something just wired into younger guys brains in thei 20's (and some dumb old fucks too) that combines the feeling of invincibiilty with stupid youthful stubborness. And you're usually surrounded by other young idiots. I remember when Ike hit, my buddy and I went to the bar, met a few girls, and spent the week after at my pool apartment complex swimming and partying after the power went out. None of the danger ever felt real becuase we didn't have any reasoanble perspective of the tenuous nature of life. And when we're young, all we want to do is clench our fists and shout into the storm, so to speak. 

[SquishMitten 10402]

9 hours ago, troph said:

Btw we have an ICF home and about the only thing it will do in extreme flooding is leave an external frame standing. The interior would be completely wrecked with a 6 foot (let alone a 10-15 foot) storm surge. There’s still a ton of finish out, interior walls, insulation, etc that would just be fucked in a flood like what’s coming. We even have plaster (concrete) walls instead of paint but sheet rock is under the plaster.  So unless it’s ICF with not much else and steel internal studs for the walls and no sheet rock then you’re still gonna be mostly screwed in a flood situation. Winds, shhheit, no problem at all - except the roof probably. Back to that pesky water getting inside. 

Y’all have a beach house? Or are you talking about your primary home? I recall you being on a really high cliff … unless it just looked that way because the lake was so low when I was there?

[dcbc 14442]

6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

The correct answer is your bourbon. If the looter was smart and enterprising.

That being said, all joking aside, I think there's something just wired into younger guys brains in thei 20's (and some dumb old fucks too) that combines the feeling of invincibiilty with stupid youthful stubborness. And you're usually surrounded by other young idiots. I remember when Ike hit, my buddy and I went to the bar, met a few girls, and spent the week after at my pool apartment complex swimming and partying after the power went out. None of the danger ever felt real becuase we didn't have any reasoanble perspective of the tenuous nature of life. And when we're young, all we want to do is clench our fists and shout into the storm, so to speak. 

We got my mom and sister to evacuate Houston ahead of Rita.  They sat in traffic for 19 hours to get to Tyler.  After that, they were like Quin ("I'll never put on a life jacket again").  She rode out Ike and had no power for 3 weeks.  When Harvey flooded Houston, my mom had to be evacuated from her street by fire truck. 

 

Their respective philosophies were that it would be too difficult to get back into town to take care of their homes after the storm danger passed.  It's dumb, but then again, riding out a hurricane in west Houston isn't like riding one out on the coast.  That said, if I still lived there, and having ridden out Alicia as a kid, I wouldn't stick around for any of it.  Grab the wife, kids, hard drives with the family photos, the dogs, and a couple of guitars and bug out.  It's just stuff.

Edited October 8 by dcbc

[troph 24593]

9 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Y’all have a beach house? Or are you talking about your primary home? I recall you being on a really high cliff … unless it just looked that way because the lake was so low when I was there?

Oh yeah on the lake and not worried about flooding I’m just saying generically based on what we built and how most ICF homes are built by itself it’s not that great for flooding. Wouldn’t be a tear down but absent a complete build out to prevent flood damage a typical ICF home won’t really survive a 10 foot flooding, only thing you keep is the exterior “framing”

Edited October 8 by troph

[troph 24593]

And hey just fyi @Herbie Hancock is a solid guy. I’d give him the middle finger Johnny cash style for something or many things maybe but not last night. There’s a thread for climate change and there’s a hurricane geek thread and I did kinda cross those up - and I'm not apologizing for being really torn up about back to back majors, what happened to NC and what the Florida Man and Euros are in store for. And for the rest of his post, I took no offense, it's easy to tell who is a real asshole on this board, he's def not one. Now call me a JAG and I’ll fuck each and everyone of you bitches up. 

Edited October 8 by troph