2024 Hurricane Season thread of DOOM

[Hefeweizen 5307]

6 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Please, for yourself, and family & friends, slowly push away from the table, find a quiet place and take a few deep breaths. Life is short and precious, and much better when enjoyed. 

Quoting for truth.  Ultimately you can’t just doom scroll all day and be healthy mentally.  Get away from the computer for a while.  

[jdhorn92 1538]

12 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Good thread, and I don't want to derail it.

TLDR, or if you read it, a simple like or a fuck you will suffice.

My wife came home from work last night and said a co-worker stormed out of work, with a parting comment of "I'm going to kill myself."

Fuck!!! My biggest dilemma was what time can I leave for Dallas Friday?

There is so much shit in the world, in no particular order; our polarized political leadership, Ukraine, Israel and their neighbors, etc., a constant barrage of extreme weather events and the hardships they bring, corporate greed run amuck, social upheavals, daily mass shootings, and so many personal things that make so many feel that life is not worth living.

Please, for yourself, and family & friends, slowly push away from the table, find a quiet place and take a few deep breaths. Life is short and precious, and much better when enjoyed. 

I generally agree. But with no grandkids on the horizon, I bought some really nice guitars. I don't play, just listen and watch. One good thing about having all the shit around is it helps me remember all the things about all the shit. It is also evidence of a lifetime of experiences.

I had been working in SLC leading up to Rita and cut my trip short to fly home to Katy. My colleagues said don't go there, you saw what Katrina did. I had to get home first, to the wife and kids, before I did anything else.

Katrina & Rita, similar situations, but different. Similar w/ a massive hurricanes barreling down on a large coastal city. Different? Don't ever equate Louisiana w/ Texas or Houston (Katy) w/ New Orleans. New Orleans is below sea level, like a bathtub surrounded by water, and people choose to live there. 'Nuff said?  

In SE Texas, it made sense for people in low lying area's and proximate to the water to leave.  More than half our neighborhood, and a lot of Houston, evacuated. Why? Our neighbors, because they wanted to, and had a place to go. For a lot of people, they evacuated because they had to and were just trying to get to a safer place. For many, the evacuation was a bigger disaster than the hurricane, as it brought the trauma right smack into their personal lives.

When I got to Houston, the streets were empty and the airport was closed. We were one of the last incoming flights, everybody was gone from the airport but a skeleton crew and the national guard, w/ weapons. All the gas stations along the way were already out of gas. I was an O&G executive, and could not get gas from the energy capital and largest refining complex in the world. WTF?

I drove to the west side, but didn't have enough diesel to make it home. A wrecker driver kindly told of a station that had some.  I had to ask a family that had evacuated, w/ young kids in a car packed to the gills, to move their car so I could get some diesel to feed by F-250 and go home to take care of my family, in a safe, dry place.

It was very surreal, for many reasons, the contrast in lives and livelyhoods, a realization of where I came from and where I was. The reality that so many normal people, when put in an uncomfortable or stressful situation, will make poor decisions (not yoga practitoneers).

Troph, your "40 year" comment hit a nerve (my lasts semester at UT). 

My family continued a cycle that has existed since Columbus and the explorers. The 1st generation struggled for survival and a simple existence, giving the 2nd generation a chance to learn a trade, a carpenter, a teacher, a doctor, etc, so the 3rd generation has freedom of choice, to be an artist, a musician, a thinker, a poet, and the cycle repeats.

I'm the second generation, both parents raised on the farm, moved to the city. I gave plasma every week my last semester, because $10/wk was meaningful, "Do I buy gas or eat?", and I got orange juice and cookies. In one generation, we went from middle lower class to middle upper class, lived in Oklahoma 3 different times (both kids born in there, on Texas soil), Louisiana and Colorado (Yes!!!). 

Now, I'm retired in the Hill Country, posting on message boards, making bank, and getting ready for OU.

And collectively, we, My Generation of Boomers, are the reason for the worlds ills.

Sorry, but I think I paid my dues and have a hard time accepting that elevating and providing for my family the best way I know how was a bad thing.

I don't think it is so much what we are doing is so bad, but the reality that there are so, so many people doing it, and the cumulative affect to provide for all that is not sustainable.

This was beautiful, insightful..... I read it as if i was reading Kerouac.

[texasdago 7553]

48 minutes ago, heso said:

Unfortunately that new track takes it directly over my friends house and his wife’s business. 

We have a friend in Bradenton and I'm texting him that he has to make his own decision but if he gas and supplies, he needs to GTFO.  He would have a place to stay in Wellington on the other side... I hope he packs up and goes while there's time.  

[troph 24593]

20 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Good thread, and I don't want to derail it.

TLDR, or if you read it, a simple like or a fuck you will suffice.

My wife came home from work last night and said a co-worker stormed out of work, with a parting comment of "I'm going to kill myself."

Fuck!!! My biggest dilemma was what time can I leave for Dallas Friday?

There is so much shit in the world, in no particular order; our polarized political leadership, Ukraine, Israel and their neighbors, etc., a constant barrage of extreme weather events and the hardships they bring, corporate greed run amuck, social upheavals, daily mass shootings, and so many personal things that make so many feel that life is not worth living.

Please, for yourself, and family & friends, slowly push away from the table, find a quiet place and take a few deep breaths. Life is short and precious, and much better when enjoyed. 

I generally agree. But with no grandkids on the horizon, I bought some really nice guitars. I don't play, just listen and watch. One good thing about having all the shit around is it helps me remember all the things about all the shit. It is also evidence of a lifetime of experiences.

I had been working in SLC leading up to Rita and cut my trip short to fly home to Katy. My colleagues said don't go there, you saw what Katrina did. I had to get home first, to the wife and kids, before I did anything else.

Katrina & Rita, similar situations, but different. Similar w/ a massive hurricanes barreling down on a large coastal city. Different? Don't ever equate Louisiana w/ Texas or Houston (Katy) w/ New Orleans. New Orleans is below sea level, like a bathtub surrounded by water, and people choose to live there. 'Nuff said?  

In SE Texas, it made sense for people in low lying area's and proximate to the water to leave.  More than half our neighborhood, and a lot of Houston, evacuated. Why? Our neighbors, because they wanted to, and had a place to go. For a lot of people, they evacuated because they had to and were just trying to get to a safer place. For many, the evacuation was a bigger disaster than the hurricane, as it brought the trauma right smack into their personal lives.

When I got to Houston, the streets were empty and the airport was closed. We were one of the last incoming flights, everybody was gone from the airport but a skeleton crew and the national guard, w/ weapons. All the gas stations along the way were already out of gas. I was an O&G executive, and could not get gas from the energy capital and largest refining complex in the world. WTF?

I drove to the west side, but didn't have enough diesel to make it home. A wrecker driver kindly told of a station that had some.  I had to ask a family that had evacuated, w/ young kids in a car packed to the gills, to move their car so I could get some diesel to feed by F-250 and go home to take care of my family, in a safe, dry place.

It was very surreal, for many reasons, the contrast in lives and livelyhoods, a realization of where I came from and where I was. The reality that so many normal people, when put in an uncomfortable or stressful situation, will make poor decisions (not yoga practitoneers).

Troph, your "40 year" comment hit a nerve (my lasts semester at UT). 

My family continued a cycle that has existed since Columbus and the explorers. The 1st generation struggled for survival and a simple existence, giving the 2nd generation a chance to learn a trade, a carpenter, a teacher, a doctor, etc, so the 3rd generation has freedom of choice, to be an artist, a musician, a thinker, a poet, and the cycle repeats.

I'm the second generation, both parents raised on the farm, moved to the city. I gave plasma every week my last semester, because $10/wk was meaningful, "Do I buy gas or eat?", and I got orange juice and cookies. In one generation, we went from middle lower class to middle upper class, lived in Oklahoma 3 different times (both kids born in there, on Texas soil), Louisiana and Colorado (Yes!!!). 

Now, I'm retired in the Hill Country, posting on message boards, making bank, and getting ready for OU.

And collectively, we, My Generation of Boomers, are the reason for the worlds ills.

Sorry, but I think I paid my dues and have a hard time accepting that elevating and providing for my family the best way I know how was a bad thing.

I don't think it is so much what we are doing is so bad, but the reality that there are so, so many people doing it, and the cumulative affect to provide for all that is not sustainable.

I had no intention of calling out any individual and by the way when I said Gen Z is mad that's at ME too. it's a tragedy of the commons issue, so you are correct on individual person is at fault. but having gen z kids on several but very infrequent basis actually say to us (my wife and I) that our generation and the ones before have fucked them over is a very hard thing to hear. but to them, it's 100% true. and as a collective society, it's hard to argue. then you watch a hurricane season like this one and it just fucks with my head.

15 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Quoting for truth.  Ultimately you can’t just doom scroll all day and be healthy mentally.  Get away from the computer for a while.  

I wasn't talking about doom scrolling, my experience on the ledge was a severe case of covid that fucked me up big time.

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

2 hours ago, Hmbre97 said:

Damnit, now I want a pubsub

Publix is closing at 3:00 today

[MissingInAction 24864]

I recommend "Silent Running".

Made 50 years ago. We knew, we always knew what was coming.

Edited October 8 by MissingInAction

[dcbc 14442]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

[Gatorubet 30139]

7 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

I recommend "Silent Running".

Made 50 years ago. We knew, we always knew what was coming.

…and Bruce Dern finally got to be a good guy.  One of a few people who successfully killed John Wayne in a movie?

[Kennythetiger 9345]

3 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Must

Refrain

Troph

Bush joke.....

You mean Troph likes her bushes like she likes her Busches……..Light. 

[SydneyCarton 47934]

2 hours ago, heso said:

 

Current track spares Tampa from the storm surge.

 

This subtle shift, if it holds, likely saves billions of dollars in damages to Tampa. Fingers crossed. 

1 hour ago, PTINS said:

Good thread, and I don't want to derail it.

TLDR, or if you read it, a simple like or a fuck you will suffice.

My wife came home from work last night and said a co-worker stormed out of work, with a parting comment of "I'm going to kill myself."

Fuck!!! My biggest dilemma was what time can I leave for Dallas Friday?

There is so much shit in the world, in no particular order; our polarized political leadership, Ukraine, Israel and their neighbors, etc., a constant barrage of extreme weather events and the hardships they bring, corporate greed run amuck, social upheavals, daily mass shootings, and so many personal things that make so many feel that life is not worth living.

Please, for yourself, and family & friends, slowly push away from the table, find a quiet place and take a few deep breaths. Life is short and precious, and much better when enjoyed. 

I generally agree. But with no grandkids on the horizon, I bought some really nice guitars. I don't play, just listen and watch. One good thing about having all the shit around is it helps me remember all the things about all the shit. It is also evidence of a lifetime of experiences.

I had been working in SLC leading up to Rita and cut my trip short to fly home to Katy. My colleagues said don't go there, you saw what Katrina did. I had to get home first, to the wife and kids, before I did anything else.

Katrina & Rita, similar situations, but different. Similar w/ a massive hurricanes barreling down on a large coastal city. Different? Don't ever equate Louisiana w/ Texas or Houston (Katy) w/ New Orleans. New Orleans is below sea level, like a bathtub surrounded by water, and people choose to live there. 'Nuff said?  

In SE Texas, it made sense for people in low lying area's and proximate to the water to leave.  More than half our neighborhood, and a lot of Houston, evacuated. Why? Our neighbors, because they wanted to, and had a place to go. For a lot of people, they evacuated because they had to and were just trying to get to a safer place. For many, the evacuation was a bigger disaster than the hurricane, as it brought the trauma right smack into their personal lives.

When I got to Houston, the streets were empty and the airport was closed. We were one of the last incoming flights, everybody was gone from the airport but a skeleton crew and the national guard, w/ weapons. All the gas stations along the way were already out of gas. I was an O&G executive, and could not get gas from the energy capital and largest refining complex in the world. WTF?

I drove to the west side, but didn't have enough diesel to make it home. A wrecker driver kindly told of a station that had some.  I had to ask a family that had evacuated, w/ young kids in a car packed to the gills, to move their car so I could get some diesel to feed by F-250 and go home to take care of my family, in a safe, dry place.

It was very surreal, for many reasons, the contrast in lives and livelyhoods, a realization of where I came from and where I was. The reality that so many normal people, when put in an uncomfortable or stressful situation, will make poor decisions (not yoga practitoneers).

Troph, your "40 year" comment hit a nerve (my lasts semester at UT). 

My family continued a cycle that has existed since Columbus and the explorers. The 1st generation struggled for survival and a simple existence, giving the 2nd generation a chance to learn a trade, a carpenter, a teacher, a doctor, etc, so the 3rd generation has freedom of choice, to be an artist, a musician, a thinker, a poet, and the cycle repeats.

I'm the second generation, both parents raised on the farm, moved to the city. I gave plasma every week my last semester, because $10/wk was meaningful, "Do I buy gas or eat?", and I got orange juice and cookies. In one generation, we went from middle lower class to middle upper class, lived in Oklahoma 3 different times (both kids born in there, on Texas soil), Louisiana and Colorado (Yes!!!). 

Now, I'm retired in the Hill Country, posting on message boards, making bank, and getting ready for OU.

And collectively, we, My Generation of Boomers, are the reason for the worlds ills.

Sorry, but I think I paid my dues and have a hard time accepting that elevating and providing for my family the best way I know how was a bad thing.

I don't think it is so much what we are doing is so bad, but the reality that there are so, so many people doing it, and the cumulative affect to provide for all that is not sustainable.

Everyone has a hard time accepting their responsibility in various ills in this world, both large and small. You want an example? Look at kids and their relationships with their parents. Your/Our parents may have thought belting kids who misbehaved or talked back was normal, and instilled discipline, and was in the long run good for the kid's future. Check back in a couple decades...and that's a pretty traumitizing thing for a number of kids. Or other children who had parents dismiss their emotions and say "suck it up, kid" have left vast swaths of kids emotionally distant with their parents and dont feel like they can even interact with their parents. And how many of those boomers can look back and say "Man, my actions may have had unintended consequences I didn't see at the time" on one hand while still saying "Man, I thought I was doing the best I could at the time." 

It's a pretty difficult balance between "I am not going to feel bad for providing for my family as best as possible and won't view how I did it as bad" and "Man, I did the best I could and didn't know a better way."  Arguably that mental block humans all suffer from is a instinctive reflex that has allowed this species to survive and thrive. Because we can't/don't accept accountability for shit. 

Edited October 8 by SydneyCarton

[Nice Guy Eddie 13418]

I agree that Houston overreacted with Rita. Mainly it was due to the the reported horrors of NOLA and the Superdome. Everyone thought Houston would resemble Mad Max if they were stuck.

[Baboontyme 2808]

My entire work team lives in Tampa. 90% overall of my work colleagues are in the area as that was our HQ until we got bought out by big corp a couple of years ago. On my direct team I oversee, 3 of 4 are evacuating. It took one guy and his family 4 hours to get to Ocala this morning. As for the guy that is staying, I'm not getting much info out of him as to why. I'm not sure if he's in an evacuation zone or not. One of the guys who is leaving is in zone B and he said as of this morning A, B and C were mandatory evac zones. 

[Born to Run 6568]

9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I agree that Houston overreacted with Rita. Mainly it was due to the the reported horrors of NOLA and the Superdome. Everyone thought Houston would resemble Mad Max if they were stuck.

Well Houston was spared a lot of impact when it wobbled east and basically wiped Cameron LA of the map. 100 miles to the west and shit Would have been bad.

 

It uncharteristically moved Northwest and did a lot of damage NW of Houston. 

[SydneyCarton 47934]

4 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Well Houston was spared a lot of impact when it wobbled east and basically wiped Cameron LA of the map. 100 miles to the west and shit Would have been bad.

 

It uncharteristically moved Northwest and did a lot of damage NW of Houston. 

Yeah, would it have been as bad as Katrina? Propably not. That being said what Cat 1 Beryl did to our infrastructure makes me skeptical AF it would have been fine. Perhaps it really was the last 12+ years since Ike that Centerpoint has really let things go to shit. But people also forget just how badly Rita fucked up the sabine pass. 

[dcbc 14442]

5 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Well Houston was spared a lot of impact when it wobbled east and basically wiped Cameron LA of the map. 100 miles to the west and shit Would have been bad.

 

It uncharteristically moved Northwest and did a lot of damage NW of Houston. 

Northeast?

[PTINS 3442]

1 hour ago, heso said:

 

Current track spares Tampa from the storm surge.

 

"Current track spares Tampa from the storm surge." I don't think so.

Tampa may not get hit head on, but a hurricane 200 miles in diameter cuts a swath ~ 200 miles in diameter, and pushes a huge layer of water well beyond that. That is a storm surge 1,000's of square miles in area spread across the Florida's west coast, up to 15 feet high, but gradually tapering to a few feet, hundreds of miles away.

Milton will push water into the bay well before the eye makes landfall.

This pic shows a 150 mile path across Florida, generally along the forecast track of Milton. Milton has moved ~ 250 miles in the past 24 hours, roughly 10 miles/hour. The entire area across Florida is forecast to have hurricane force winds at the same time, for an extended period.  

Below is the elevation profile of that path. The fact that the 2 peaks represent 2 highways tells you everything you need to know about Milton and Florida, that Milton will go through and across Florida "like shit through a goose."

What's it going to look like when it gets to the Atlantic? 

Helene hit Valdosta, GA with 90+ mph winds 70 miles from the coast, and Augusta with 69 mph wind gusts 250 miles inland, crossing a 350' elevation. Odd are we will have Milton 2.0 on the east coast.

[dcbc 14442]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah, would it have been as bad as Katrina? Propably not. That being said what Cat 1 Beryl did to our infrastructure makes me skeptical AF it would have been fine. Perhaps it really was the last 12+ years since Ike that Centerpoint has really let things go to shit. But people also forget just how badly Rita fucked up the sabine pass. 

Rita came ashore as a Cat3.  Had it been a direct hit on Houston (even if reduced to a Cat1 by the time it made its way inland), it would have fucked things up good and proper just like Alicia did.  That sucker was a 5 and 4 for a good portion of its run across the gulf.  Ike came straight up the ship channel IIRC and maintained Cat2 status.

Edited October 8 by dcbc

[Sbbruin 21782]

 

[bolverk 29451]

[Newdoc 3433]

Models are shifting south so Tampa might skip the worst of it. Hopefully this verifies according to weather nerds on storm2k.

[Ogie Ogilthorpe 639]

Calmest update yet...the calm before the storm.

 

[MissingInAction 24864]

So just the tip?

[Born to Run 6568]

49 minutes ago, dcbc said:

Northeast?

*North But Even Grimes and Montgomery County had a lot of damage. I was cutting up trees for days.

[smuggs 9342]

4 minutes ago, Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

Calmest update yet...the calm before the storm.

 

 

 

[tokamak 6353]

51 minutes ago, dcbc said:

Rita came ashore as a Cat3.  Had it been a direct hit on Houston (even if reduced to a Cat1 by the time it made its way inland), it would have fucked things up good and proper just like Alicia did.  That sucker was a 5 and 4 for a good portion of its run across the gulf.  Ike came straight up the ship channel IIRC and maintained Cat2 status.

Not to worry, the Ike Dike will be funded and built in just a few short centuries.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20349]

1 hour ago, troph said:

I had no intention of calling out any individual and by the way when I said Gen Z is mad that's at ME too. it's a tragedy of the commons issue, so you are correct on individual person is at fault. but having gen z kids on several but very infrequent basis actually say to us (my wife and I) that our generation and the ones before have fucked them over is a very hard thing to hear. but to them, it's 100% true. and as a collective society, it's hard to argue. then you watch a hurricane season like this one and it just fucks with my head.

I wasn't talking about doom scrolling, my experience on the ledge was a severe case of covid that fucked me up big time.

Well you just tell your Gen Z'rs that they are just going to have to unfuck our fuckery and that they had better get after it because our fuckery is ongoing and isn't going to unfuck itself.  Fuckers. 

[hookemATL 11612]

4 minutes ago, smuggs said:

 

 

Moar

[PTINS 3442]

 

26 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah, would it have been as bad as Katrina? Propably not. That being said what Cat 1 Beryl did to our infrastructure makes me skeptical AF it would have been fine. Perhaps it really was the last 12+ years since Ike that Centerpoint has really let things go to shit. But people also forget just how badly Rita fucked up the sabine pass. 

Everything in New Orleans between Lake Pontchartrain through the French Quarter and to the bank of the Mississippi River, is basically at sea level. The River itself is ~70 river miles from the Gulf, and ~20-50 feet above sea level.  When you stand on a ship in the river and look over the dike, you are looking down into the City of New Orleans, at sea level, 20+ feet below the river level.

When the 10+ foot Katrina storm surge filled Lake Pontchartrain ~ 10 feet above sea level, it was well above the city elevation, some of the dikes failed, and water poured into the low lying areas in and around New Orleans. 

Houston will flood along the bays and bayous and lower elevations, but nothing like New Orleans.

The flooding from Harvey's rainfall was different than any hurricane related storm surge.

[Don Johnson 4745]

 

[SydneyCarton 47934]

12 minutes ago, PTINS said:

 

Everything in New Orleans between Lake Pontchartrain through the French Quarter and to the bank of the Mississippi River, is basically at sea level. The River itself is ~70 river miles from the Gulf, and ~20-50 feet above sea level.  When you stand on a ship in the river and look over the dike, you are looking down into the City of New Orleans, at sea level, 20+ feet below the river level.

When the 10+ foot Katrina storm surge filled Lake Pontchartrain ~ 10 feet above sea level, it was well above the city elevation, some of the dikes failed, and water poured into the low lying areas in and around New Orleans. 

Houston will flood along the bays and bayous and lower elevations, but nothing like New Orleans.

The flooding from Harvey's rainfall was different than any hurricane related storm surge.

I'm fully aware man, I've lived in Houston for 40 of my almost 45 years on this earth, and through all of that. When I say Rita would have fucked up Houston, I meant the wind and infrastructure.. Hence my reference to Beryl. A derecho in may and a cat 1 in july had me without power for 20 days total this summer.

[ConferenceRoom 6131]

8 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

 

Next time, Jack, just send a memo.

[gofuckyourself 8136]

10 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

 

 

I would definitely clap after they landed that flight.

[PTINS 3442]

34 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

 

Puh-lease! Stop!!!

Sounds like the average SEC honk. "Whatever I see for the first time in my life is the greatest, biggest, fastest, longest, hardest, prettiest, bestest, worstest, thing ever!"

Category 5 already means GET THE FUCK OUT!!!

Not to shit on Milton, but here is the last photo.

32 minutes ago, bolverk said:

My mantra for 40 years, "The Trend is your friend." The "Forecasted path" shown? 

"I'm not seeing it. I don't get it."

Here is a photo of Hurricane Allen in 1980, with 200+ mph winds.  The Yucatan Peninsula is 600+ miles to the Texas Coast. We are all very fortunate it made landfall ~ 100 miles south of Brownsville. Except for those in Mexico.

Not a big mystery where the eye was.

I remember a few Darwin candidates in Austin wanting to drive to the coast so they could see a hurricane.

[texasdago 7553]

16 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I'm fully aware man, I've lived in Houston for 40 of my almost 45 years on this earth, and through all of that. When I say Rita would have fucked up Houston, I meant the wind and infrastructure.. Hence my reference to Beryl. A derecho in may and a cat 1 in july had me without power for 20 days total this summer.

Exactly it... the analysis of what would have happened to Houston had Rita hit, specifically in the ship channel, is exceedingly frightening.  

https://archive.ph/bRZ6R#selection-2413.0-2429.83

Local hurricane experts agree that a violent storm surge in the channel of at least 26 feet—a reasonable estimate for a category 4 storm that hits Galveston directly—would initially inundate densely populated, low-lying communities on the western half of Galveston Bay. Debris from those communities would then combine with thousands of shipping containers in the area, forming a destructive wall of steel and wood that would slam into thousands of chemical and crude oil storage tanks. Many tanks would be broken open by the battering ram of debris, while others would be ripped from their foundations by the water, releasing their deadly contents. A detailed inventory of hazardous chemicals around the Ship Channel remains difficult to come by, thanks to a Texas law that restricts public disclosure of information that could be utilized by terrorists. However, a 2016 Houston Chronicle investigation of the area’s dangerous chemicals revealed that communities near the Ship Channel live in close proximity to toxic substances, such as silane gas, methyl mercaptan, hydrofluoric acid, sodium sulfide, and ammonia. On at least three occasions, the investigation found, those substances have been released, killing workers and endangering nearby residents. The paper has also catalogued more than one hundred toxic releases during Hurricane Harvey alone, most of them from Houston’s petrochemical corridor.

[NorthLoop 14120]

[markstanco 12528]

2 hours ago, Ogie Ogilthorpe said:

Publix is closing at 3:00 today

Sounds like yall need a HEB.

[TeeDubya 3360]

pressure dropping again - likely back up to Cat 5

[Bert Orange 1115]

12 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Puh-lease! Stop!!!

Sounds like the average SEC honk. "Whatever I see for the first time in my life is the greatest, biggest, fastest, longest, hardest, prettiest, bestest, worstest, thing ever!"

Category 5 already means GET THE FUCK OUT!!!

Not to shit on Milton, but here is the last photo.

My mantra for 40 years, "The Trend is your friend." The "Forecasted path" shown? 

"I'm not seeing it. I don't get it."

Here is a photo of Hurricane Allen in 1980, with 200+ mph winds.  The Yucatan Peninsula is 600+ miles to the Texas Coast. We are all very fortunate it made landfall ~ 100 miles south of Brownsville. Except for those in Mexico.

Not a big mystery where the eye was.

I remember a few Darwin candidates in Austin wanting to drive to the coast so they could see a hurricane.

Not exactly true. Allen peaked in the Atlantic before it reached the gulf. While it did strengthen there for a bit, it weakened considerably before it hit my hometown as a Cat 3. Believe it leaked at 190 in the Atlantic. 
 

185 is the strongest ever recorded in the Gulf. 

Allen was the lowest recorded pressure in the Gulf though

[Parliament 14149]

32 minutes ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Next time, Jack, just send write a goddamn memo.

1234

[tx 3 putt 76504]

 

[Captainant 27497]

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

[Trey3216 15325]

1 hour ago, tokamak said:

Not to worry, the Ike Dike will be funded and built in just a few short centuries.

Don't talk about Mrs. Eisenhower like that  

[TonyTexas 10485]

22 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

That’s like the Whataburger location map that Houstonians used to track power outages after Beryl 

[Rip76 4915]

Wow!

Back to Cat 5.
4:00 PM CDT Tue Oct 8
Location: 22.7°N 87.5°W
Moving: ENE at 9 mph
Min pressure: 918 mb
Max sustained: 165 mph

[tx 3 putt 76504]

tampa area might miss a killer surge but these  winds might not leave much behind 

[0xdeadbeef 1627]

Wobble baby, wobble baby

Excellent wobble tracker posted earlier : https://www.wfla.com/weather/tracking-the-tropics/live-wobble-tracker-changes-in-hurricane-miltons-path-could-have-huge-impacts/

 

Seems Milton doesn't feel the need to follow rules.  If it wants to go a little more East and a little less North, well, ain't nobody stopping it.

Every little bit helps Tamps.

[Pimphand 5629]

6 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The sign.  Furk:

Yeah they have those signs all over from Ruskin through Gibsonton (that I've seen) fortunately for Tampa it looks like the storm is moving south which would prevent that sign from becoming reality.

[Mittens 8182]

 

[Rip76 4915]

902mb with 159 knot flight level winds.

774
URNT15 KNHC 082110
AF303 1614A MILTON HDOB 14 20241008
210230 2241N 08731W 7014 02321 9101 +185 +148 338082 126 177 014 03
210300 2241N 08728W 6938 02372 9047 +226 +115 319034 055 059 004 03
210330 2242N 08727W 6957 02329 9024 +236 +106 318007 025 039 001 03
210400 2244N 08726W 6946 02360 9066 +199 +122 080021 025 043 003 00
210430 2245N 08725W 6985 02338 9100 +187 +130 094036 038 044 003 00
210500 2245N 08724W 6993 02302 9070 +198 +128 120034 038 050 000 03
210530 2243N 08723W 6957 02327 9026 +230 +112 170048 056 060 001 00
210600 2243N 08722W 6959 02346 9061 +205 +124 185080 091 115 000 00
210630 2242N 08720W 6942 02411 9141 +142 //// 193116 133 151 006 01
210700 2242N 08719W 6962 02532 //// +101 //// 194151 159 153 027 01
210730 2241N 08717W 6920 02692 //// +104 //// 192145 159 142 029 01
210800 2241N 08716W 6950 02740 //// +116 //// 193133 139 117 001 01
 

[tx 3 putt 76504]

i guess they’ll be retiring ‘milton’