NBA Offseason Thread 2024 - Fuck you, pay me

[d2o 1,602]

12 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

how on earth is golden state going to be able to offer anyone a 4 year max contract??

S&T for Klay would be my guess.   They could also package Wiggins and another player or two to get to PG's number

[Pam Cummings 9,639]

16 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

how on earth is golden state going to be able to offer anyone a 4 year max contract??

GS seems like they are a ways from contention even if they somehow got George. Kind of seems desperate to me.

[d2o 1,602]

1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said:

They still have Chris Paul's 30m deal on the books, which I believe has an option for later this week. Then they still have some other contracts like Kuminga and whatever to make up the difference. Not sure what LAC would want, but there's no way for GS to offer that amount with outright cap space. 

Forgot about CP3's number.   Its not guaranteed if he is cut by Friday.  They could add him to the deal and the Clips could cut him immediately

 

[BigOrange1 6,432]

trading salaries i understand.  that tweet phrased it as if they could outright sign him as a free agent and they cannot.

[d2o 1,602]

5 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

trading salaries i understand.  that tweet phrased it as if they could outright sign him as a free agent and they cannot.

They would offer him the contract and then figure out the S&T part 

 

Looks like the Warriors are also about to roll out new logos/jerseys too.

 

[Dutchrudder 11,133]

25 minutes ago, d2o said:

Forgot about CP3's number.   Its not guaranteed if he is cut by Friday.  They could add him to the deal and the Clips could cut him immediately

 

I think he would be routed to a third team looking to dump some money or a contract (Lavine, Ball, MPJ, KAT, Murray). They would then cut CP, and then he's a free agent, ready to sign wherever he wants.

If I'm the Clippers, I would tell PG to gtfo with that S&T idea, and either pick up your option to stay, or go find some team with 50 million in cap space you want to join (Detroit, Philly, Orlando or Utah).  Ideally for the Clippers, he opts in and plays in a contract year, CP gets cut, and comes to LAC to lead the offense. Other guys come to LA to help fill out the roster, and they only let Kawhi play once a week to keep him fresh for the playoffs. I think the Clippers best path forward is to get PG to opt-in and stay without extending him another 4 years. 

Edited June 26 by Dutchrudder

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

 

[Michael Knight 12,976]

lol

 

 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,547]

2 hours ago, d2o said:

Forgot about CP3's number.   Its not guaranteed if he is cut by Friday.  They could add him to the deal and the Clips could cut him immediately

 

I think his deal becomes guaranteed if they trade him. I’m not sure where I heard that but I reasonably believe that is accurate. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

lol
 
 

I’m sure the lines are lighting up to get someone that go scorched earth to the tune of 6-14 for 13 pts

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I think his deal becomes guaranteed if they trade him. I’m not sure where I heard that but I reasonably believe that is accurate. 

No notes of that I can find.

https://hoopshype.com/player/chris-paul/salary/

 

 

[aggie08 21,481]

36 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I’m sure the lines are lighting up to get someone that go scorched earth to the tune of 6-14 for 13 pts

I bet you can count on one hand the number of times that D'Angelo has made at least 5 2pt field goals in one game post Brooklyn.

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

 

[Fastbreak 3,973]

Since OG opted out that means he can’t be sign and traded right? That leaves only a few teams that could sign him as a FA. Why would any of those teams with cap space want to pay him $35m to be a number 3 or 4 guy?

I could see doing 4 years, $100m. But 4/140? Nah…

40m a year to be the #4 guy (at best). Am I living in bizzaro world?

[Radical Larry 28,539]

[A-Tex Devil 2,446]

3 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

40m a year to be the #4 guy (at best). Am I living in bizzaro world?

He was getting that from somebody, but add the injury history and it's still silly season.  

[Fastbreak 3,973]

Bam getting 55m a year. Do teams not understand the salary cap and aprons? I’m really fucking confused.

He was getting that from somebody, but add the injury history and it's still silly season.  

Who? Only 4 teams have space

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

So when Mitch Robinson gets hurt, OG/Hart/Miles/DD and Brunson gonna wing us to death

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

And the balance of power has shifted back to the west after 9 days

[d2o 1,602]

Wow they get Brogdon, #14 and another pick for Avdija?

 

Edited June 26 by d2o

[BigOrange1 6,432]

Avdija is interesting.  I'd much rather have him than the 14th pick in a weak draft.  Brogdon is old and doesnt fit Portland's timeline.  

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

 

[aggie08 21,481]

5 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

GS seems like they are a ways from contention even if they somehow got George. Kind of seems desperate to me.

What else can they do? Steph, PG, Dray, and some parts aren't enough to compete for a title. Shit, it might still have them fighting to avoid the play-in. Deep down, I'm sure they realize that. The "smart" move would be to blow it up and start the rebuild.

BUT they're not going to do Steph dirty like that. Not with the literal billions that he's brought to that franchise. If he only has a couple of truly elite years left, they're going to do what they can to field the best possible team around him within reasonable means.

[Dutchrudder 11,133]

2 hours ago, d2o said:

 

 

 

Holy shit! NYK is going all in! 

[Aqua Buddha 14,581]

Houston gets the #3 pick and takes an undersized guard that can't create his own shot?  Of course.

[aggie08 21,481]

As opposed to all the long, athletic dudes who can create their own shot in this draft?

[Dutchrudder 11,133]

@MNLonghornFUKM

The San Antonio Spurs are sending Kentucky guard Rob Dillingham, the No. 8 pick in this year's NBA draft, to the Minnesota Timberwolves, sources told ESPN.

The Spurs added to their future draft pick stash by acquiring a 2031 unprotected first-round pick and a 2030 top-one protected pick swap from the Timberwolves, according to sources.

According to ESPN's Bobby Marks, Minnesota's luxury tax bill climbs from $56 million to $84 million with the addition of Dillingham's salary. 😬

 

Can they afford that, or will they be dumping someone? 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Bloomberg will just cut a personal check

Bloomberg will just cut a personal check

[Derka 6,135]

 

[Fastbreak 3,973]

7 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Houston gets the #3 pick and takes an undersized guard that can't create his own shot?  Of course.

He had a 42 inch vertical at the combine and was the best shooter.

[BigOrange1 6,432]

Aqua Buddha shits on the Rockets any chance he gets.  Its to be expected at this point.

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

 

[RexWilson 1,344]

My bad, meant to put in Mavs thread

Edited June 27 by RexWilson

[Chewbacca 7,765]

 
 
 

I'd like to see the Nuggets keep him, but not sure they can. Someone is going to overpay.

[Michael Knight 12,976]

15 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

He had a 42 inch vertical at the combine and was the best shooter.

counter point, he appears to be a bitch made mommas boy

[UpperWestside 6,159]

On 6/26/2024 at 10:41 AM, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Knicks are better than the bucks, they’ll be pretty tough out when randle returns. Randles not some winning player by all means but he’s decent. Losing IH is gonna hurt because Mitch Robinson always has health issues, and nobody after that

I suppose we gotta see what Philly does with their cap space

If I were still going to be living in NYC after the holiday season ends I would be pretty excited to watch the Knicks. They are going to be a fun team that clearly does not care about the tax aprons going forward and have a good chance of actually making it out of the East next season if they can stay healthy. Bridges and Anunoby are players I enjoy watching. It’s just so odd seeing the Knicks being run so competently after more than two decades of being the opposite of this.
 

Even the draft pick of Kolek is a good one. Now they just apparently have to get him a tutor to teach him how to read. /s

[speed817 19,244]

 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,547]

Fantastic move by Dallas to get off that money and now being able to sign Derrick Jones Junior while staying under the cap. Grimes can eat up some minutes too. Mavs front office has been killing it over the past year. Grant Williams was a mis-step but they rectified that one.

[LurkingHorn 1,066]

1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Fantastic move by Dallas to get off that money and now being able to sign Derrick Jones Junior while staying under the cap. Grimes can eat up some minutes too. Mavs front office has been killing it over the past year. Grant Williams was a mis-step but they rectified that one.

Cubes gets out of the way and good shit happens. Shocking. 

[Derka 6,135]

dejounte to the pelicans for larry nance and picks.

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

[d2o 1,602]

 

That's it?

 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

So how did the DM experience end? Lost a first round pick or 2, gained Larry nance and Dyson Daniel’s and didn’t win a playoff game?

[Michael Knight 12,976]

17 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

So how did the DM experience end? Lost a first round pick or 2, gained Larry nance and Dyson Daniel’s and didn’t win a playoff game?

Hawks receive:

• Dejounte Murray
• Jock Landale

Spurs receive: 

• Danilo Gallinari
• 2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte from New York, protected)
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick

[Michael Knight 12,976]

Meanwhile the Knicks paid 4 1st round picks for Mikal Bridges

[Lonestar88 4,629]

58 minutes ago, d2o said:

 

That's it?

 

The Hawks just do stuff man, no cohesive long term plan.

 

23 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Meanwhile the Knicks paid 4 1st round picks for Mikal Bridges

5 actually. 4 of them were unprotected but there was another 1st round pick that was top 4 protected.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Hawks receive:

• Dejounte Murray
• Jock Landale

Spurs receive: 

• Danilo Gallinari
• 2023 first-round pick (via Charlotte from New York, protected)
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick

Gained a pick from Nola and some stipulation. Either way what a failure

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,547]

15 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Gained a pick from Nola and some stipulation. Either way what a failure

Failure? Not for the Spurs it wasn’t. There’s still a decent chance that the rest of the east out tanks them but that’s a play in team ceiling if everything breaks right for them. Jesus what a terrible franchise. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Failure? Not for the Spurs it wasn’t. There’s still a decent chance that the rest of the east out tanks them but that’s a play in team ceiling if everything breaks right for them. Jesus what a terrible franchise. 

I was talking about the hawks…