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It can be. We got whackos of every stripe up here, from Utah to California all the way up to Seattle. 

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This is what makes the most sense, at least for now.  Not sure how this plays out for Oregon or UW, though.  They want to go to B1G, but it sounds like that invite ain't happening just yet.  

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UCLA: Martin Jarmond has officially been announced as the new Bruins athletic director with a six-year deal with guaranteed compensation of $1.03 million with compensation averaging $1.4 million annually over the term of the contract. The deal includes a one-time signing bonus of $339,900 the first year.

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UCLA: Martin Jarmond has officially been announced as the new Bruins athletic director with a six-year deal with guaranteed compensation of $1.03 million with compensation averaging $1.4 million annually over the term of the contract. The deal includes a one-time signing bonus of $339,900 the first year.

who in the fuck gives an AD a signing bonus?

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https://footballscoop.com/news/report-pac-12-considering-buying-out-larry-scotts-contract-early/

Report: Pac-12 considering buying out Larry Scott’s contract early

By Zach Barnett -     July 6, 2020

Pac-12 presidents are considering buying commissioner Larry Scott out of his contract early ahead of the upcoming round of TV negotiations, according to a report Monday from John Canzano of The Oregonian.   Scott has run the conference since 2009, and all but two of the conference’s 12 presidents or chancellors have switched chairs since then.

“There’s serious talk amongst the Pac-12 CEO Group,” one high-level conference administrator told the paper, “to end his contract ahead of the expiration date to have a fighting chance to save the (conference) Networks.”

Scott attempted to annex half the Big 12 before settling for Colorado and Utah, and his big bet has been on the Pac-12 Networks, which the conference schools have funded themselves rather than partnering with an existing network like ESPN (SEC, ACC, Texas) or Fox (Big Ten).

Since the Pac-12 Networks are conference-owned and conference-run, Scott is paid $5.3 million for his dual roles as head of the Pac-12 conference and networks.   That looks especially bad, for Scott and the people who approved such an arrangement, as long as the Pac-12 is languishing behind its peers. Pac-12 Networks are in just 18 million homes, and paid out just $2.7 million per school in 2018, according to the San Jose Mercury-News.   In short, Scott makes about as much from the Pac-12 Networks as the schools themselves. As I said, not a good look.

The Pac-12’s at-the-time record-breaking $3 billion contracts with ESPN and Fox expire in 2024, a date Scott obviously has circled to A) close the gap with the SEC and the Big Ten and B) secure his legacy within the conference. (Scott’s deal expires after the 2021-22 athletic year.)

Objective A was always going to be doubtful, simply because the SEC and Big Ten are miles and miles ahead of the Pac-12 (and, to be fair, the ACC and Big 12 as well). But now there’s apparently a chance Objective B doesn’t happen, either.

 

 

More detailed article link below...

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/john_canzano/2020/07/canzano-pac-12-presidents-and-chancellors-put-the-squeeze-on-conference-headquarters.html

"Canzano: Pac-12 presidents and chancellors put the squeeze on conference headquarters" 

 

 

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Under Armour pulling out of its deal with Cal is going to be complicated by the fact that the deal — a 10-year, $86M deal made in 2016 — was, wait for it, never signed by both parties

That seems to be a pretty large "hiccup", but: UCLA signs deal with Jordan brand for hoops, that's the "joke of the day"...

 

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I fully expect Cal will follow suit. They also have a large number of sports programs that they can barely support on a good year. Attempts at even minor cuts have prompted backlash from alums in the past but not anymore.

Expect smaller cuts elsewhere if only because everyone else had already downsized.

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There's got to be some serious ethical issues with this, right?

 

With this, the clumsiness of their network and other management/leadership related issues you would think that some of their members will be actively exploring their options re:  affiliation.

What a crazy story!  And for what?  Rowing and fencing coverage?

 

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1 hour ago, flatdawgs said:

So yet again Oregon gets a bye before the UW game. Surprise, surprise (especially because for once this year UW was to have the bye).

The league showing favoritism in hope to gain a bid to CFP, I'd guess.!?

 

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I find it a bit humorous that we're calling the Pac 12 the weak league when our options are to either play 12 games where 3 are against shitass, cupcake teams or 9 conference games and trying to squeeze in one OOC. All because we decided to stay at 10 teams and have a dumb conference championship. I'm honestly shocked the idea isn't to play 9 conference games and then a mini Big 12 playoff of 4 vs 1 and 2 vs 3. 

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I find it a bit humorous that we're calling the Pac 12 the weak league when our options are to either play 12 games where 3 are against shitass, cupcake teams or 9 conference games and trying to squeeze in one OOC. All because we decided to stay at 10 teams and have a dumb conference championship. I'm honestly shocked the idea isn't to play 9 conference games and then a mini Big 12 playoff of 4 vs 1 and 2 vs 3. 

Conflating the current with a future option would be a mistake...

Recall at 1 point ACC lacked Miami/ Syracuse/ Notre Dame as well...

In other words, (factoring XII pays more than PAC) it is possible to happen...

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I find it a bit humorous that we're calling the Pac 12 the weak league when our options are to either play 12 games where 3 are against shitass, cupcake teams or 9 conference games and trying to squeeze in one OOC. All because we decided to stay at 10 teams and have a dumb conference championship. I'm honestly shocked the idea isn't to play 9 conference games and then a mini Big 12 playoff of 4 vs 1 and 2 vs 3. 

The dumb conference championship game has ensured that the league gets a spot in the CFP

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Okay. Still doesn't disprove that we're the weak league. We had to add it because we're a weak league that's playing behind the other 4. 

yeah you are right, Big 12 is the weakest.. the attendance is weaker than the PAC and ACC.  Schools are literally operating in the red unlike the powerful PAC conference.  We should hope and pray that Larry Scott and his new LA Times power merger saves us from the lowly Big 12 conference.

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29578950/pac-12-player-group-threatens-opt-makes-list-demands-injustice-safety

Pac-12 player group threatens to opt out, makes list of demands on injustice, safety

3:52 PM CT.   Adam Rittenberg   Mark Schlabach

A group of Pac-12 football players from multiple schools is threatening to opt out of both preseason camps and games until its negotiations with the league regarding concerns about racial injustice, their safety during the coronavirus pandemic and other demands are completed.   A text message obtained by ESPN says the group's goal is to "obtain a written contract with the Pac- 12 that legally ensures we are offered the following protections and benefits."

The group's list of demands, according to the text message, includes safe play amid the pandemic, fighting racial injustice, securing economic rights and fair compensation, protecting all sports and obtaining long-term health insurance.  People familiar with the group's mission told ESPN that the central issue it wants to address with the league and its schools is racial injustice.

The players plan to make a public "statement of unity" and a list of their demands as early as Sunday through traditional and social media.  The Pac-12 said in a statement Saturday that it had yet to hear from the group.

"Neither the Conference nor our university athletics departments have been contacted by this group regarding these topics," a Pac-12 statement said. "We support our student-athletes using their voice,and have regular communications with our student-athletes at many different levels on a range of topics. As we have clearly stated with respect to our fall competition plans, we are, and always will be, directed by medical experts, with the health, safety and well being of our student athletes, coaches and staff always the first priority. We have made it clear that any student athlete who chooses not to return to competition for health or safety reasons will have their scholarship protected."

Ramogi Huma, the founder and president of the College Athletes Players Association, is assisting the players in organizing the potential boycott, sources told ESPN. Huma, a former linebacker at UCLA, has been an advocate of college athletes' rights.

A staff member at a Pac-12 football program told ESPN that the movement is "real" and involves potentially hundreds of players.  A UCLA player contacted by ESPN said Bruins team leaders planned to meet and discuss the potential boycott Saturday.  A person familiar with the Pac-12 campaign said players from Cal, Oregon, Stanford and UCLA and other schools are involved. The person said at least a few of the league's head coaches were aware of the potential boycott and have independently gauged their teams' involvement, which has varied from campus to campus.

Among the players' concerns are that they are being brought back to campus for practices and games when a handful of Pac-12 schools, including Cal, UCLA and USC, have told most, if not all, of the student body to stay home and take classes online this fall because of the coronavirus pandemic. Stanford is bringing only half of its undergraduates back to campus for the fall quarter.

On Friday, the Pac-12 approved a 10-game, conference-only fall schedule for football that is scheduled to begin on Sept. 26. Each team will play five home and five road games, and the Pac-12 championship is scheduled for no earlier than Dec. 18 or 19. The conference title game will be held on campus and not at the NFL's new stadium in Las Vegas, as previously planned. 

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott conceded it "may not be possible" to play even a 10-game schedule by Dec. 19 -- or that the spring might be needed to finish it.

"The same thing may happen in other markets," Scott said. "... We recognize that the best-laid plans may not come to fruition, whether being able to start on (Sept.) 26, play a complement of a minimum number of games we feel would be required for a College Football Playoff, and we may start but not be able to finish, and then we will have to adjust."

Half of the league's schools -- Arizona, Arizona State, California, Stanford, UCLA and USC -- are located in states with surging coronavirus cases.

"We realize at the moment, those are real hot spots, and the requisite authorities and approvals are not there yet," Scott said.

With its delayed start to the season, the Pac-12 plans to enter the "enhanced summer access" period as early as Aug. 3, followed by the start of its official training camp as early as Aug. 17.

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Good for them. Use your leverage while you have it. I wouldn't trust any college program and specifically any college football head coach to do things to ensure my safety if I was a player. Not with the Dabos and Mike Gundys of the world out there. 

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29578950/pac-12-player-group-threatens-opt-makes-list-demands-injustice-safety

Pac-12 player group threatens to opt out, makes list of demands on injustice, safety

3:52 PM CT.   Adam Rittenberg   Mark Schlabach

A group of Pac-12 football players from multiple schools is threatening to opt out of both preseason camps and games until its negotiations with the league regarding concerns about racial injustice, their safety during the coronavirus pandemic and other demands are completed.   A text message obtained by ESPN says the group's goal is to "obtain a written contract with the Pac- 12 that legally ensures we are offered the following protections and benefits."

The group's list of demands, according to the text message, includes safe play amid the pandemic, fighting racial injustice, securing economic rights and fair compensation, protecting all sports and obtaining long-term health insurance.  People familiar with the group's mission told ESPN that the central issue it wants to address with the league and its schools is racial injustice.

The players plan to make a public "statement of unity" and a list of their demands as early as Sunday through traditional and social media.  The Pac-12 said in a statement Saturday that it had yet to hear from the group.

"Neither the Conference nor our university athletics departments have been contacted by this group regarding these topics," a Pac-12 statement said. "We support our student-athletes using their voice,and have regular communications with our student-athletes at many different levels on a range of topics. As we have clearly stated with respect to our fall competition plans, we are, and always will be, directed by medical experts, with the health, safety and well being of our student athletes, coaches and staff always the first priority. We have made it clear that any student athlete who chooses not to return to competition for health or safety reasons will have their scholarship protected."

Ramogi Huma, the founder and president of the College Athletes Players Association, is assisting the players in organizing the potential boycott, sources told ESPN. Huma, a former linebacker at UCLA, has been an advocate of college athletes' rights.

A staff member at a Pac-12 football program told ESPN that the movement is "real" and involves potentially hundreds of players.  A UCLA player contacted by ESPN said Bruins team leaders planned to meet and discuss the potential boycott Saturday.  A person familiar with the Pac-12 campaign said players from Cal, Oregon, Stanford and UCLA and other schools are involved. The person said at least a few of the league's head coaches were aware of the potential boycott and have independently gauged their teams' involvement, which has varied from campus to campus.

Among the players' concerns are that they are being brought back to campus for practices and games when a handful of Pac-12 schools, including Cal, UCLA and USC, have told most, if not all, of the student body to stay home and take classes online this fall because of the coronavirus pandemic. Stanford is bringing only half of its undergraduates back to campus for the fall quarter.

On Friday, the Pac-12 approved a 10-game, conference-only fall schedule for football that is scheduled to begin on Sept. 26. Each team will play five home and five road games, and the Pac-12 championship is scheduled for no earlier than Dec. 18 or 19. The conference title game will be held on campus and not at the NFL's new stadium in Las Vegas, as previously planned. 

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott conceded it "may not be possible" to play even a 10-game schedule by Dec. 19 -- or that the spring might be needed to finish it.

"The same thing may happen in other markets," Scott said. "... We recognize that the best-laid plans may not come to fruition, whether being able to start on (Sept.) 26, play a complement of a minimum number of games we feel would be required for a College Football Playoff, and we may start but not be able to finish, and then we will have to adjust."

Half of the league's schools -- Arizona, Arizona State, California, Stanford, UCLA and USC -- are located in states with surging coronavirus cases.

"We realize at the moment, those are real hot spots, and the requisite authorities and approvals are not there yet," Scott said.

With its delayed start to the season, the Pac-12 plans to enter the "enhanced summer access" period as early as Aug. 3, followed by the start of its official training camp as early as Aug. 17.

It’s about time they address the criminal lack of diversity in college football. For far too long our Asian , Indian and Hispanics athletes have been excused from the joys of NCAA football. Good for them, checking their privilege. 

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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/pac-12-players-covid-19-statement-football-season

Other than the nonsense about using academic and research endowments to fund sports, most of their requests seem doable. The 50/50 revenue split will obviously be negotiated down as well, that's just ridiculous.

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1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

It’s about time they address the criminal lack of diversity in college football. For far too long our Asian , Indian and Hispanics athletes have been excused from the joys of NCAA football. Good for them, checking their privilege. 

You left out little people.

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I thought the pac 12 was strong academically. That list looks like it's written by a 3rd grader. 

Curious about where they want 50% of each sport's revenue split among the athletes. Does that mean athletes in every sport except football and men's basketball will have to write a check to cover the deficit? 

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I thought the pac 12 was strong academically. That list looks like it's written by a 3rd grader. 

Curious about where they want 50% of each sport's revenue split among the athletes. Does that mean athletes in every sport except football and men's basketball will have to write a check to cover the deficit? 

Revenue not profit... So basically we are reaching the point where this is going to kill college athletics, at least for the non-revenue sports at a minimum.

So they want 1/2 of all revenue.... Which means most non-revenue sports will never be viable at all (especially when you are now losing a a huge portion of the current excess from football and basketball that went to help fund these sports) and we are going to be down to just football and basketball. Eventually, no women's sports will the make the cut nationally because there wont be enough schools offering teams to make scheduling viable. In addition, we will now have to see what teeth Title IX will still have because schools will claim that there is no way to pay for them...

I said from the very beginning the Obannon lawsuit will kill the golden goose.. and now we are beginning to reach that point. Why offer non-revenue sports if they will never be profitable and now in essence will be impossible to even break even? At what point do schools then deduct the cost for everything else from these athletes allotment, and we in essence build a defacto minor leagues.

 

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