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It can be. We got whackos of every stripe up here, from Utah to California all the way up to Seattle. 

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This is what makes the most sense, at least for now.  Not sure how this plays out for Oregon or UW, though.  They want to go to B1G, but it sounds like that invite ain't happening just yet.  

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The Pac-12’s new commissioner is MGM Resorts Int’l President of Entertainment & Sports George Kliavkoff, who, like the previous commissioner, Larry Scott, will oversee the Power 5 conference without any previous experience in college athletics.

The Pac-12 presidents and chancellors made the surprising hire and will introduce Kliavkoff, 54, a 2006 SBJ "Forty Under 40" honoree, today after a search in which his name never surfaced. TurnkeyZRG worked with the Pac-12 leaders on the search, which spanned four months after Scott and the conference agreed to part ways after 11 years. Kliavkoff signed a five-year contract that will begin July 1.

Kliavkoff comes from a background steeped in digital media, live events and sports wagering, as well as a league stint at MLB Advanced Media. In his three years at MGM, Kliavkoff was president of one of the largest live events companies in the world. His responsibilities stretched from operations to finance, strategy, booking, marketing, sponsorships and ticketing for MGM Resorts' 35 theaters, arenas and showrooms. Among them are T-Mobile Arena, MGM Grand Garden Arena and Mandalay Bay Events Center. In his role, he also provided direction for BetMGM.

What is certain to get the attention of those inside the conference is Kliavkoff’s lack of exposure to college athletics. The Pac-12 swayed back and forth on the need for someone who had experience on campus versus a hire from outside the college sports ranks with a broader background.

Why Kliavkoff?
Three reasons why Kliavkoff was hired by the Pac-12:

He brings a rich background in media, especially digital. At MLBAM, he was at the forefront of bringing all of the teams together into a single digital entity and then monetizing it. He was part of the team that launched Hulu. He helped move the “TV Everywhere” concept forward at NBCUniversal by putting 2,200 hours of Olympic programming online and on mobile phones in 2008. The conference will be quick to point out that Kliavkoff is not just a “media guy,” but many of his strengths are rooted there.

Kliavkoff’s experience running a massive live events business at MGM Resorts Int’l positions him well because running live events is at the heart of what conferences do. He’s undoubtedly evolved his thinking on the fan experience as well after three years in Las Vegas.

Most everywhere Kliavkoff has been, he’s encountered longtime legacy brands, sometimes stodgy brands, in need of change, and he has taken on those challenges. NBC, MLBAM, MGM, they all fall into that category. College athletics, which often are slow to change, fit that same description. With athlete compensation, ongoing legal battles and more change coming, perhaps from Congress, the Pac-12’s leadership found Kliavkoff’s experience in managing change to be a supreme asset.
One more thing on Kliavkoff: For someone with such a deep past in digital media, Kliavkoff had an interesting answer when asked about his fantasy job. He said he’d like to start a magazine. Of course, that was in 2006.

Kliavkoff’s work experience
President, MGM Resorts Int’l Entertainment & Sports, 2018-2021
CEO, Jaunt XR, 2016-18
President, Hearst Ventures, 2009-16
Interim CEO, Hulu, 2007-08
Chief Digital Officer, NBCUniversal, 2006-08
EVP, MLB Advanced Media, 2003-06
GM, Real Networks, 1999-2003
Attorney, various firms, 1993-99
PR Coordinator, Goodwill Games, Turner Sports, 1989-90
 

 

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9 hours ago, 66BUFF said:

time for realignment

this is probably a good time to show why a move to the PAC 12 makes no sense for any Big 12 team that wants to be in a long term competitive conference

this shows all financial data for the reporting year and then revenues - subsidies, revenues - expenses, and revenues minus subsidies and expenses and the ranking of each conference member with those metrics

 

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1 hour ago, mdleast said:

If he can finally get their network seen across the country that would at least be “baby steps” progress.

Yeah, I don't want to hear one word about this dude until there's a press release about renegotiating the Pac-12 Network contracts.

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38 minutes ago, 83Horn said:

Pete Fiutak seems like he sucks.  I especially like where he states that Texas was "not necessarily part of the discussion" back when the PAC was considering expansion in 2011.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/pac-12-expansion-what-schools-should-the-conference-target/ar-BB1gId5S

So the writer thinks the P12 could add Boise or Fresno St, eh?   Lulz, dude has no clue.

But I did like this tidbit:  

2. He pretty much let it slip that College Football Playoff expansion is probably coming very, very soon. 

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On 5/14/2021 at 12:06 PM, 83Horn said:

Pete Fiutak seems like he sucks.  I especially like where he states that Texas was "not necessarily part of the discussion" back when the PAC was considering expansion in 2011.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/pac-12-expansion-what-schools-should-the-conference-target/ar-BB1gId5S

He was on Heartland College Sports' pod today and he thinks it's still 2011.  He's talking about Oklahoma building their brand by hooking up with bigger TV markets on the West Coast and that the Big 12 blew an opportunity by not adding TV markets like UCF and Memphis.

Jesus Christ.

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5 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

He was on Heartland College Sports' pod today and he thinks it's still 2011.  He's talking about Oklahoma building their brand by hooking up with bigger TV markets on the West Coast and that the Big 12 blew an opportunity by not adding TV markets like UCF and Memphis.

Jesus Christ.

hahahaha the latest numbers have the Memphis athletics budget without their $20,575,512 academic side subsidy @ $35,239,597.......you take $4 million from that for no payment from the AAC if they left (never mind the $17 million to leave like UConn just paid) and then you add back a full share of Big 12 money $37.7 million (pretending they would get a full share right away and the Big 12 would find a way to get the revenue to keep conference payouts from dropping with new teams) and Memphis would have a budget of $69 million which would be the second lowest in the P5 (when taking out all subsidies from the academic side) just above WSU and just below Oregon State (excluding subsidies for either of them as well)

that would be $21 million below KSU and $24.5 million below ISU WITHOUT any subsidies for either of them because in the year in question KSU has a zero subsidy and ISU had a $2 million dollar subsidy.......and that includes any student ticket fees or mandatory sales......and ISU (along with the rest of the Big 12 has made it clear the goal is zero academic side subsidies including student fees or mandatory ticket sales/purchases)

UCF would only be about $2 million better than Memphis

if anyone thinks you build a conference by adding teams that would be $21 million below the other lowest budgets in the conference (and teams that would be the down at the very bottom of P5 budgets) well that person has their head firmly in their ass......all the more so when that calculation leaves out any payment to leave a former conference, it pretends that a full share comes immediately, and it pretends that without some new found money conference payouts for all teams would break even with new members

a lot of people out there do not understand how much effort the Big 12 has put in as a whole conference to reduce athletics debt, reduce academic side subsidies, build facilities with mostly cash, get facilities built and on place, and to otherwise stabilize the conference in a very good financial place

when you look at the academic side subsidies (and all the more so the growth over the last few years), the debt loads, the ongoing need for new facilities, the annual budget deficits even WITH academic side subsidies in the budget that a large number of members are dealing with in a couple of other conferences in particular it is a joke to think that Big 12 teams (especially the top ones) are rushing off to be a part of that much less that the Big 12 needs to become a part of that by adding the currently available new members that are at the conference headquarters door begging to get in

and when you look at the fact that cable MSOs are now starting to drop "conference networks" from some of their markets and the overall decline in pay TV subscribers the idea of "adding markets" and "new members to feed a potential (or existing) conference networks well the idea of "need this market" becomes all the more stupid especially for teams that are not necessarily carrying a large share of that market

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it is time for the Big 12 to wake up and go to 7 conference games

with a 12 team PAC 12 looking to go to 8 conference games that means opportunities for the Big 12 to fill their own newly created dates with PAC 12 teams

all the better if the Big 12 can do the smart thing and try and take advantage of better match ups and the fact that the Big 12 has been playing better football of late and use that to jump on them when they are down

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Dropping 2 games per school..? That's quite the reduction in revenues by the networks who give us such "glorious purpose"...

This may never occur, but in an 'alternate universe' Oklahoma/ Texas & USC/ Oregon would be wise in the same conference...
We shall see if PAC can rectify its issues & likewise XII has some 'splaining to do with networks near 2025 to growing league...

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On 6/24/2021 at 2:29 AM, kopp0e said:

Dropping 2 games per school..? That's quite the reduction in revenues by the networks who give us such "glorious purpose"...

This may never occur, but in an 'alternate universe' Oklahoma/ Texas & USC/ Oregon would be wise in the same conference...
We shall see if PAC can rectify its issues & likewise XII has some 'splaining to do with networks near 2025 to growing league...

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On 6/21/2021 at 9:22 PM, ButtFumble said:

it is time for the Big 12 to wake up and go to 7 conference games

with a 12 team PAC 12 looking to go to 8 conference games that means opportunities for the Big 12 to fill their own newly created dates with PAC 12 teams

all the better if the Big 12 can do the smart thing and try and take advantage of better match ups and the fact that the Big 12 has been playing better football of late and use that to jump on them when they are down

I was listening to the Pac 12 Network, and Evan Moore, former Stanford TE and NFL player, was proposing that the Pac and B1G both move to 8 games, and fill the 9th game with a head-to-head matchup of 1 v 1, 2 v 2, and on down the line for the last weekend of the year.  With TV being the king of CFB, the eyeballs that would draw would be pretty significant.  I like the idea.  With an expanded playoff, the 1's don't necessarily risk being bounced.  The other leagues need to get creative.  I don't like the idea of 2 or 3 super leagues.  Let the SEC circle jerk itself to death.  But do something different to compete on different footing.

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This could be really interesting: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/tim-cowlishaw-a-big-12-merger-with-pac-12-it-may-be-messy-but-this-rumored-marriage-feels-meant-to-be/ar-AAN2cz2

Basically has divisions of XII, Texas+Arizona, Washington+Oregon+Utah, California+Colorado. Do something like others have tried: play your division schools every year and rotate division for other conference games. Maybe for non-football you overweight or only play yours + other division to help with travel.

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21 minutes ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

This could be really interesting: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/tim-cowlishaw-a-big-12-merger-with-pac-12-it-may-be-messy-but-this-rumored-marriage-feels-meant-to-be/ar-AAN2cz2

Basically has divisions of XII, Texas+Arizona, Washington+Oregon+Utah, California+Colorado. Do something like others have tried: play your division schools every year and rotate division for other conference games. Maybe for non-football you overweight or only play yours + other division to help with travel.

I hate the merger idea.  It's too much of an overreaction to the Texas/OU move.

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On 7/30/2018 at 11:12 PM, ButtFumble said:

yea, but they will get over it because of already killing themselves after jumbo goes 7-6 at best and possibly 6-7

AU has a really nice schedule with BYU, Houston and Southern Utah and they should win all 3 even though they lost to Houston last year in a close one I think the UH administration knew they were going to ditch the UTSA game no matter what (even before they told UTSA) and and told Major and the team that and to go ahead and focus on AU so there was about 5 extra days of AU preparation

then AU has Oregon State (road) so that is a win then a USC (home) team that may well already have two losses to UT and Stanford then another pretty much sure win Cal (home) then Utah which I think they can put some extra time in for then UCLA catches them off guard and Rumlin has to face a decent coach then Oregon that I think will catch them off guard then easy street with Colorado, WSU and ASU with two of the three at home and WSU hardly having a home field advantage and a team that will have quit and a coach going insane

hell even if you give them a loss for USC and Utah that is still 8-4 and aggy can at least hang their head on "same old Rumlin" while talking about the major upside of jumbo after he cleans house (never mind it will be some of his own recruits getting cleaned out with arrest issues)

AU? 

Arizona is UofA or just UA, I believe. AU is that cow college in east Alabama 😁

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49 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Didn't realize this is the first meeting ever b/w UCLA and LSU.  Not our first time against Ed O as a head coach.  Beat him 35-14 when he was interim after Joey Freshwater got canned in 2013.

Today heard a regular betting guy on HornFm pick ucla to beat lsu straight up... 

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1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:
  • SC’s game against San Jose St  decided 4th quarter
  • Utah St over Wazzu
  • Montana over UW
  •  Nevada over Cal
  • Oregon St loses to Purdue
  • Stanford loses to K St
  • Oregon wins a squeaker over Fresno St

 

The dominant P12 Football Team is now... 😋

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