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Posted
14 minutes ago, Texas Fight said:

Different team but we have same Tuesday results. Need to take these seriously. Especially against a #35 RPI team.

I mean, you want to take them seriously, but you also need to give guys a chance to work stuff out and mix up the lineups.

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13 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I mean, you want to take them seriously, but you also need to give guys a chance to work stuff out and mix up the lineups.

We pitched more way down bullpen guys in Kentucky than we have against UTSA and SWT. We only gave up 1 earned run to SWT. 

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31 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

How much credence is given to these Tuesday games if we are rotating pitchers in and out of the bullpen and they are trotting out multiple starters? 

A loss doesn’t really hurt Texas as long as we keep winning series in the SEC. However, a win really helps UTRGV. 

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

They beat us last year.  Different Texas team to be sure.

That was not a good night for me last year. We almost got run ruled by them. I just remember that being the game that caused even the most ardent Pierce supporters to jump ship. 

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UTRGV hasn’t used a weekend starter during a midweek game all year long and they’ve already played DBU and TCU (X2). 

Just like us they have a Thu-Sat series this week. They play Southeastern Louisiana on the road who is 53rd in the RPI. The following weekend they play McNeese at home who is 26th in the RPI. Both are tied for 2nd behind UTRGV in the Southland right now. They have plenty of opportunities to solidify their At-large bid.

This should be your typical annoying Tuesday night game against a good in state team. Would not be shocked at all if we lose. No idea what Schloss will do with the pitching staff, a lot will be predicated on Bing’s health.

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Posted
42 minutes ago, Texas Fight said:

We pitched more way down bullpen guys in Kentucky than we have against UTSA and SWT. We only gave up 1 earned run to SWT. 

It doesn’t get anymore down the bullpen than Rerick and Navarre who were pretty much the only reasons that UTSA game was close. 

 

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30 minutes ago, Texas Fight said:

Our Sunday starter got the loss for that game.

Who at the time was still throwing out of the bullpen and who Schloss threw a bone too, letting him pitch against his former team. But you are correct l, he threw 4 innings, struck out 5 and gave up 1 run that ended up being the deciding one

Navarre and Rerick gave up 5 ER that game and recorded 1 out between them. Not understanding the point you are trying to make.

Texas State we just hit like shit and came up short on a few plays that decided the game like Will not making the catch in CF and Kimble lining out to end the game. 

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2 hours ago, chase25 said:

It doesn’t get anymore down the bullpen than Rerick and Navarre who were pretty much the only reasons that UTSA game was close. 

 

Yeah we started Rerick. He got pulled with no outs in the 1st inning. We brought in Bing who absolutely shut them down for 5 innings. We pulled him after only 55 pitches with a 5-2 lead to get Navarre some work. It just is what it is. You want to get guys work. If that was a real game you don't pull Bing there.

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33 minutes ago, chase25 said:

Who at the time was still throwing out of the bullpen and who Schloss threw a bone too, letting him pitch against his former team. But you are correct l, he threw 4 innings, struck out 5 and gave up 1 run that ended up being the deciding one

Navarre and Rerick gave up 5 ER that game and recorded 1 out between them. Not understanding the point you are trying to make.

Texas State we just hit like shit and came up short on a few plays that decided the game like Will not making the catch in CF and Kimble lining out to end the game. 

I think you just help me make my point.

The narrative was the other teams pitch their weekend starters to beat us. And we lose because we pitch 2s and 3s. 

We pitch our weekend guys too. And our 2s and 3s can pitch well (no hitter through 7? Bing pitched 5 innings vs UTSA and didn’t give up a hit). 

Fact is, we hit like shit vs those two teams and didn’t play well in the field. Between 2 games, we had 22 SOs, left 19 on base and had 4 errors, leading to 5 unearned. 
 

Who gives a shit if we have to face UTRGV ace for a few innings? Go win.

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2 hours ago, chase25 said:

 

This should be your typical annoying Tuesday night game against a good in state team. Would not be shocked at all if we lose. No idea what Schloss will do with the pitching staff, a lot will be predicated on Bing’s health.

Is he hurt/injured?  I may have missed it.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Is he hurt/injured?  I may have missed it.

He was pulled after an inning against Houston Christian last Tuesday after his fastball was dipping down to 84-85. He usually sits above 87 and consistently 88-89.

Haven’t watched Schloss’ interview with OB yet to know if they have shared an update

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Posted
5 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

Yeah, but not only because they're jacked up to play Texas. They're a legitimately good team trying to improve their RPI and this is their final game against a Q1 opponent. That's more why I believe they'll pull out all the stops.

Absolutely.

Posted (edited)

@Texas Fight

^^True.  It's not absolute and I wasn't really thinking in terms of just this or last year.  My comment was after thinking of all the decades of where we have dropped Tuesday tilts to teams many have never heard of.

Sometimes it's just the other team playing lights out because Texas.

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9 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

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8 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Georgia at #3 is an absolute joke. They barely scraped by Arkansas at home and Arkansas has a much better resume than Georgia overall. I know it doesnt matter, but it's weird how these rankings are all over the place. 

Why are they listing Arkansas with an “A” that is nearly indistinguishable from Alabama’s “A”?

Why aren’t they using this fucking image?

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5 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

 

Why are they listing Arkansas with an “A” that is nearly indistinguishable from Alabama’s “A”?

Why aren’t they using this fucking image?

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Honestly--I don't know.  It's driving me fucking insane.

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

 

Why are they listing Arkansas with an “A” that is nearly indistinguishable from Alabama’s “A”?

Why aren’t they using this fucking image?

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I know I work adjacent to graphic design so I pay attention to this stuff, but for fucks sake the Bama A is as clear and iconic as it gets. Clemson and Arky having separate baseball logos is fun.

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Posted (edited)

Coach talks about playing team offense and that players have options during certain situations on offense. That you have to play to the situation, especially players like Duplantier. That this is needed now even more with the injuries. This is adapting to the current circumstances. This just makes so much sense

A very interesting point made was that if Riojas was to remain a starter, the bullpen had to be expanded. I think a lot of people here will remember how short the Texas bullpen got a few years ago and it costs us in Omaha. It was down to a starter, a reliever, and then a closer basically the entire CWS. He said that Moffet and Saunier had shown progress in bullpen sessions with the help of Weiner, and they became part of this expanded pen. This really helped after the extra inning game followed by another early start the next day. This is quality coaching; he sees a problem and uses another quality coach in Weiner to fix it.  

This team and the Texas Baseball program is in very good hands.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 

Why are they listing Arkansas with an “A” that is nearly indistinguishable from Alabama’s “A”?

Why aren’t they using this fucking image?

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They appear to mostly be using the logos that are on the baseball caps.  We are one of the exceptions.  Imagine our T next to Tennessee's.  That would probably cause as much confusion as the As for Alabama and Arkansas, though not for us, as the difference is obvious.  

Posted
57 minutes ago, NBHorn7 said:

This team and the Texas Baseball program is in very good hands.

This made me head to wiki to see how old he is. Hopefully he has 20 years here with us. But I also got a pretty hearty chuckle out of the Texas A&M and Texas subsections of the coaching career section, which were quite obviously written by some crestfallen aggies. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, NBHorn7 said:

I think a lot of people here will remember how short the Texas bullpen got a few years ago and it costs us in Omaha.

If you are referencing 2022, that team was sent home before they even unpacked their bags. If I remember right, we scored like 4 combined runs in two games and both games were over by like the 5th inning. Every part of the team sucked for those 3 days.

I do hear what you are saying. The emergence of Moffett and Saunier will help us the rest of the regular season in keeping guys fresh, but once the postseason rolls around we are going to run Spencer, Harrison, Grubbs, Dre, Riojas and Volantis into the ground. Other guys will only be used in emergencies or if things get really wild. If Sunday was a regional game, there is a 100% chance Volantis would have been used for a third straight day or Grubbs would have been brought back after 66 pitches on Friday over Saunier.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Bevo&Pevo said:

I kinda consider UTRGV as the beginning of an in state rival.  I consider aggie like something maybe I stepped in and shouldn't have. 

UTRGV is a cute lil friend that has the potential to occasionally show us up in an ultimately inconsequential way. They're a system school, not a rival.

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

If you are referencing 2022, that team was sent home before they even unpacked their bags. If I remember right, we scored like 4 combined runs in two games and both games were over by like the 5th inning. Every part of the team sucked for those 3 days.

I do hear what you are saying. The emergence of Moffett and Saunier will help us the rest of the regular season in keeping guys fresh, but once the postseason rolls around we are going to run Spencer, Harrison, Grubbs, Dre, Riojas and Volantis into the ground. Other guys will only be used in emergencies or if things get really wild. If Sunday was a regional game, there is a 100% chance Volantis would have been used for a third straight day or Grubbs would have been brought back after 66 pitches on Friday over Saunier.

I am not referring to 2022, but rather 2021. That CWS was the starter, Cole Quintanilla, and get it to the ninth for Aaron Nixon. Sometimes Texas brought a starter back in relief. When that starter didn't go the necessary innings for the Quintanilla bridge to Nixon, they started using Witt and that was it.

That 2022 team got killed at the CWS, both games were basically over before a reliever ever saw the mound.

It was different in 2021 when there was basically no bullpen, and it did hurt then.

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, NBHorn7 said:

I am not referring to 2022, but rather 2021. That CWS was the starter, Cole Quintanilla, and get it to the ninth for Aaron Nixon. Sometimes Texas brought a starter back in relief. When that starter didn't go the necessary innings for the Quintanilla bridge to Nixon, they started using Witt and that was it.

That 2022 team got killed at the CWS, both games were basically over before a reliever ever saw the mound.

It was different in 2021 when there was basically no bullpen, and it did hurt then.

That’s true, but Texas ultimately lost because we couldn’t hit/stop striking out against Will Bednar and Landon Sims in either of our loses to MSU.

Game one where we lost 2-1 and struck out 21 times still haunts me. We get past MSU and I think we would have beaten Vanderbilt for the title. 

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, NBHorn7 said:

I am not referring to 2022, but rather 2021. That CWS was the starter, Cole Quintanilla, and get it to the ninth for Aaron Nixon. Sometimes Texas brought a starter back in relief. When that starter didn't go the necessary innings for the Quintanilla bridge to Nixon, they started using Witt and that was it.

That 2022 team got killed at the CWS, both games were basically over before a reliever ever saw the mound.

It was different in 2021 when there was basically no bullpen, and it did hurt then.

I was at that CWS.  As I recall, Witt only pitched in two games.  He had an excellent extended relief appearance in a victory over Tennessee and he pitched one real bad inning in a game against Mississippi State that the Horns ended up winning anyway

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

I was at that CWS.  As I recall, Witt only pitched in two games.  He had an excellent extended relief appearance in a victory over Tennessee and he pitched one real bad inning in a game against Mississippi State that the Horns ended up winning anyway

Yeah. We went 3-2 and our loses were 2-1 and 4-3. Pitching, while thin, wasn’t the issue that trip. 

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No it was striking out 20 times against Mississippi State in game 1. We win that game, we would probably have been champs.

I was at that game. That was fun.

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The UT System schools are not rivals. We are helping build up their programs by playing them.

If they beat us from time to time...well a necessary evil. 

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Point remains, give me 4-5 really good pitchers on a staff over having 7-8 decent pitchers but no single guy or two you would consider “lockdown”.

The postseason format is designed in a way that you really only need like 2 real starters and 2-3 relievers to make a run. Having a bullpen that is 6 guys deep sounds great on paper but if you are having to go 6 guys deep in your bullpen in the postseason you are probably in trouble anyway. 

That 2021 Mississippi State team had Bednar, Sims and a bunch of guys who are probably already working desk jobs. A&M last year was Prager, Aschenbeck and Cortez basically carrying them the whole way, especially after Sdao went down.

It’s more likely we are let down by the offense at some point than not having enough arms in the bullpen, based on what we’ve seen up to this point.

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Texas won the second game against MSU 8-5 because Witt gave up a 5-2 lead in the bottom of the eighth, allowing three runs. Nixon came in the eighth and gave up a two-run single and a walk. With the bases loaded again, he got out of it on a popup.

Texas won by scoring three runs in the top of the ninth on a Melendez three run homer.

In the bottom of the ninth MSU had two on and one out. Nixon again escaped for the win.

You don't win that game and there wouldn't have been a second game against MSU to lose. More depth in the pen would have helped.

In the last game against MSU, Bednar gave up all three runs in 6 and a 1/3 innings, when he left the game tied at 3-3.

It was Landon Sims, who got the save in the first MSU game. This time he came in and completely shut Texas down for 2.2 innings on no hits, no walks, and 4 K's. The only Texas runner to reach was on an error. He got the win.

Meanwhile Quintanilla has to come in again in the sixth and continue on into the ninth, till finally giving up the winning run. He had to pitch too many innings because of the short pen.

 

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43 minutes ago, NBHorn7 said:

I am not referring to 2022, but rather 2021. That CWS was the starter, Cole Quintanilla, and get it to the ninth for Aaron Nixon. Sometimes Texas brought a starter back in relief. When that starter didn't go the necessary innings for the Quintanilla bridge to Nixon, they started using Witt and that was it.

That 2022 team got killed at the CWS, both games were basically over before a reliever ever saw the mound.

It was different in 2021 when there was basically no bullpen, and it did hurt then.

In 2021, we had Pete Hansen, Madden and Stevens as starters.  Witt was a full time reliever with Cole then Nixon.

There were several guys with good numbers like Southard and Gordon.

In the end if the offense shows up, we beat MSU 2 of 3 instead of losing 2 of 3.  If we win game 1, we shift that stress to MSU.

In that final loss to MSU, we were one pitcher short.  Stevens did not go deep in the UTenn game so Witt had to extend.  That was Witts longest outing by 2.1 innings.  Unfortunately, two games later he wasn’t as good.

The final game was Cole’s longest of the year.  The two games prior were Nixons most innings on back-to-back days all season.

In the end, we extended our 3 bullpen guys beyond what they had done.  If we had trusted 1 more guy, it may have made a difference.

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Posted
11 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

That was not a good night for me last year. We almost got run ruled by them. I just remember that being the game that caused even the most ardent Pierce supporters to jump ship. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Had Enough said:

In 2021, we had Pete Hansen, Madden and Stevens as starters.  Witt was a full time reliever with Cole then Nixon.

There were several guys with good numbers like Southard and Gordon.

In the end if the offense shows up, we beat MSU 2 of 3 instead of losing 2 of 3.  If we win game 1, we shift that stress to MSU.

In that final loss to MSU, we were one pitcher short.  Stevens did not go deep in the UTenn game so Witt had to extend.  That was Witts longest outing by 2.1 innings.  Unfortunately, two games later he wasn’t as good.

The final game was Cole’s longest of the year.  The two games prior were Nixons most innings on back-to-back days all season.

In the end, we extended our 3 bullpen guys beyond what they had done.  If we had trusted 1 more guy, it may have made a difference.

Excellent and correct explanation.

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Seems like a 100% chance DBU, TCU or UTSA will be our 2 based on the way things currently look. 

The selection committee will like the TCU angle but they may end up hosting if they finish strong so maybe that is a potential Supers matchup. 

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I’d take that regional in a heartbeat

EDIT: It should be an unspoken rule that the committee gives the #1 overall seed the SWAC auto bid as the 4 seed

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2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Seems like a 100% chance DBU, TCU or UTSA will be our 2 based on the way things currently look. 

The selection committee will like the TCU angle but they may end up hosting if they finish strong so maybe that is a potential Supers matchup. 

I’d much rather see DBU of those three.

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