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do you want uruguay to beat the usmnt on monday?  

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  1. 1. do you want uruguay to win

    • yes, i want uruguay to win 5-0
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    • sadly, yes
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    • no i could never root for the usmnt to lose
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cmontexas

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Greg sucks and I wish we had a better coach. But you have to take glory whenever you can get it. A win over Uruguay to advance in Copa would be a massive moment. Turning that down for an imagined greater chance of success in 2 years is lunacy. There's no guarantee that 

A. Berhalter would even get fired if we lose

B. The new coach will get big wins in WC26.

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HornOnTheBayou

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1 hour ago, cmontexas said:

Greg sucks and I wish we had a better coach. But you have to take glory whenever you can get it. A win over Uruguay to advance in Copa would be a massive moment. Turning that down for an imagined greater chance of success in 2 years is lunacy. There's no guarantee that 

A. Berhalter would even get fired if we lose

B. The new coach will get big wins in WC26.

This is where I am. If I was 100% sure Gregggg would get fired with a loss, then I would probably root for it. But I don't trust the leadership to do that or to make the right hire even if they shitcan him. 

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Ted Lange

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I’m genuinely excited about the match.   It’s our first real match since the defeat to the Netherlands in the WC.

In 6 years and 75 matches GGG has never beaten a team of this quality, but it’s fun to see us match up with teams like this.   I’m bored to tears with concacaf matches.  
 

What scares me is Ggg somehow doing something he’s never done and beat a legit team, but Panama ends up winning 3 or 4 to nothing and we still don’t go thru.  

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Derka

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what is even the point then? this guy is untouchable? he already did a shit job, lost his job, got the job back with the help of his brother, and now it’s just a matter of fact that his results don’t matter? i hope we lose 10-0 now.

no, there’s no guarantee that his replacement will be better, but there is a guarantee that this team will underachieve and squander its one shot to make a deep run during a home WC with gregg running the team. it is exhausting trying to support this team and the ussf. i love the players, but i megaloathe gregg and the ussf brass.

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WBT

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Remind me how Wynalda got involved in the Reyna-Berhalter feud?  Was he pro or anti gergg?

Is he shit-stirring here or legit trying to get people on board?

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Hagbard Celine

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13 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Doesn’t the CBA covers players not management.  

i want to see it in writing and i want to see a blockbuster name coaching hire like a klinsmann with a public announcement of a contract paying global market rates

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10 hours ago, WBT said:

Remind me how Wynalda got involved in the Reyna-Berhalter feud?  Was he pro or anti gergg?

Is he shit-stirring here or legit trying to get people on board?

i think he's just stating what he's hearing and he is absolutely deeply connected

other than grant wahl (RIP) he has been one of the very few with a national 'mainstream' profile to take a global view (attitude) towards our federation and (men's) national team

i too hope we win and keep winning so we don't have to find out

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Captain Ron

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17 hours ago, cmontexas said:

B. The new coach will get big wins in WC26.

This is the wrong view. This isn’t about winning. This is about setting the team up to be in a position to win. And that is Gregg’s largest failure as the manager. He has rarely setup the team to have the greatest chance at success.

My problems with Gregg are not that he loses, it’s that so often the decisions he makes with this team put them in a position to lose. If I thought he gave this team every chance to succeed and lost, I would be ok with it. But that isn’t what’s going on with our team so see ya Gregg. 

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Captain Ron

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You know what? Fuck it!!! Let's go out and win this motherfucker!!! This is the kind of game where Gregg dials it up - throws caution to the wind and actually does the shit that we think he should be doing. Maybe it will flip a switch in him and make him think about what he really needs to do beyond this single game! I doubt it, but fuck it, let's win this!!!

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Braff Zacklin

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Just now, Captain Ron said:

You know what? Fuck it!!! Let's go out and win this motherfucker!!! This is the kind of game where Gregg dials it up - throws caution to the wind and actually does the shit that we think he should be doing. Maybe it will flip a switch in him and make him think about what he really needs to do beyond this single game! I doubt it, but fuck it, let's win this!!!

I hear you! Gergg is gonna let it ALL hang loose tomorrow. Like, he might actually use all his subs before the 87th minute!!!

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Derka

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i’ve felt this way before (i hope we lose!!) and invariably i’ve found myself unable to actually root against my team on gameday. i have no doubt that when the game actually starts that i’ll be all-in on a US win, but i can’t lie- an early uruguay goal and i’m going to flip shit and masochistically root for a bloodbath. 

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alincoln

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10 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

You know what? Fuck it!!! Let's go out and win this motherfucker!!! This is the kind of game where Gregg dials it up - throws caution to the wind and actually does the shit that we think he should be doing. Maybe it will flip a switch in him and make him think about what he really needs to do beyond this single game! I doubt it, but fuck it, let's win this!!!

It is? The comparable games I can recall are Japan friendly when he was comprehensively exposed, England when he parked the bus, Netherlands when he got pantsed by LVG and Brazil friendly when Turner had 26 saves.     

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dieucla98

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This game is a win win for USMNT, assuming all predictions play out as expected. Win, we move on and winning is awesome. Lose, and we get a new coach and there is no greater time on Surly than during a coaching search.

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0xdeadbeef

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This feels like being forced to root against Texas late in the Charlie Strong era.   

Damn it. 

Wayalda may be reporting what he's hearing, but things change.  Getting knocked out of Copa early could be like losing to Kansas.

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LurkingHorn

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5 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

How is this guy still the coach after the world cup? Wasn't he hugely incompetent there?

He was adequate but we got worked hard when we went up against a decent coach in the knockouts. He certainly didn't do enough to get a 2nd cycle. 

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Derka

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balogun gets mugged, no call. 

19 minutes ago, The Dog said:

His brother is no longer at US Soccer.

his homies are still there. and they seem like they’d rather have gregg in charge then to actually be competitive.

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18 minutes ago, Derka said:

balogun gets mugged, no call. 

his homies are still there. and they seem like they’d rather have gregg in charge then to actually be competitive.

He got the job because the pussies on the team wanted him. “Comfort hire” personified.

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On 6/30/2024 at 11:25 PM, Captain Ron said:

You know what? Fuck it!!! Let's go out and win this motherfucker!!! This is the kind of game where Gregg dials it up - throws caution to the wind and actually does the shit that we think he should be doing. Maybe it will flip a switch in him and make him think about what he really needs to do beyond this single game! I doubt it, but fuck it, let's win this!!!

Or ...

 

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Braff Zacklin

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Wouldn't change my vote or comment. Didn't think the USSF had the minerals to do what they should've done 18 months ago ... but they did. So good for them, I guess.

And as much as I dislike the Copa for that obviously rigged game versus Uruguay, it was an unintentional favor on their part. So thank you, CONMEBOL!!!!!!!!!!!

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Captain Ron

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9 hours ago, Derka said:

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y’all still wish we beat uruguay?

 

51 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

So 29 out of 35 Surly voters are idiots. 

Not surprised.

At least we know that 6 out of 35 voters will be around to make sound decisions going forward.

 

I'm sorry you guy hate America. Maybe you should move to China or Iran?

 

Seriously though, my hyperbole isn't far off yours. You guys seem to equate wanting the United States to win this game with us LIKING Gregg as the coach. And that isn't the case.

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Napoleon

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Just now, Captain Ron said:

 

 

I'm sorry you guy hate America. Maybe you should move to China or Iran?

 

Seriously though, my hyperbole isn't far off yours. You guys seem to equate wanting the United States to win this game with us LIKING Gregg as the coach. And that isn't the case.

I equate wanting to win a single game with not being willing to do what’s needed to improve.

Unwilling to make necessary sacrifices.

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Napoleon

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3 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

I'm willing to accept the loss when that result ended up with us getting rid of Gregg.

I am not willing to hope my team loses to hope we get rid of Gregg.

You are a captain who is unable to lead.

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