The next USMNT coach

[Blotto 23491]

2 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

None of what you proposed is possible, unfortunately.

I know Reynolds cant buy the federation, but I am curious if there is something that prohibits the federation from soliciting donations from wealthy Americans. Do you mean individuals cant donate money? 

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

9 hours ago, jkates said:

I'm not a soccer guy, so I just read and try to learn.

Why the obsession with the foreign-born, specifically Euro, coach? I understand most of the best soccer is played in Europe, but why can't an American or MLS coach succeed? Is it really that different? Isn't much of the issue the talent and making it play hard/together? I don't see why an American guy can't do that.

welcome to the thunderdome

we have had success with 2 MLS coaches, but that was when MLS still provided the majority of the player pool

the next coach has to be someone who has proven "sitting" success with "helmet nations" in Full International tournaments OR has proven "sitting" success with top-table teams in the top european leagues

our talent is now that level

the talent can only be shaped and wielded by someone with coaching experience at that talent level

the mls soccertainment exhibition ain't that

it's europe only

south america national team success is just as good - but not south america club success

also - no mexico anyone at all

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

8 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

we laugh, but donovan would bring more leadership to the locker room than currently exists

hire demspey as his whip

shitty practice?

run cones for an hour

yellow card?

1000 pushups

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

I know Reynolds cant buy the federation, but I am curious if there is something that prohibits the federation from soliciting donations from wealthy Americans. Do you mean individuals cant donate money? 

of course they can

but would you hand them $100m with no strings attached?

[cmontexas 3270]

Landon couldn't be any worse than Jason Kidd

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

ask any mexican el tri fan over the age of 35 which us player they hate/respect the most

[The Dog 44019]

22 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

ask any mexican el tri fan over the age of 35 which us player they hate/respect the most

Cobi Jones?

[Captain Ron 12872]

Spoiler

 

 

[Derka 6155]

 

[Gucci_Suit 2643]

1 hour ago, Derka said:

 

 

[Captain Ron 12872]

1 hour ago, Derka said:

 

 

 

Honestly, I'm ok with him not coming to the job, now or ever.

 

I think the more damning thing is his statement about how the Federation needs a major change, because he's making note of all the issues we know all too well, but without saying  it explicitly.

 

Edited July 13 by Captain Ron

[Captain Ron 12872]

On 7/11/2024 at 11:44 PM, Captain Ron said:

 

 

 

Hudson also slipped this in here, what everyone knew but few (except fans) said - the coaching search was a sham.

 

 

[Captain Ron 12872]

28 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

 

 

Honestly, I'm ok with him not coming to the job, now or ever.

 

I think the more damning thing is his statement about how the Federation needs a major change, because he's making note of all the issues we know all too well, but without saying  it explicitly.

 

 

One last things - this isn't sour grapes or being pissed off at him or anything - I just don't think he offers the USMNT what they really need. He's an OK coach, but needs to prove a bit more to show he's got something to offer the USMNT.

[Captain Ron 12872]

 

[NoName 16351]

16 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

 

Saw on Twitter Charlie Davis said he was offered the job, told an offer was coming then they ghosted him and rehired GGG - which is why he is so fired up and pissed.

[Bodhi 1123]

7 hours ago, Derka said:

 

Oh no, the coach that has been fired by his last two clubs in under 12 months on the job is off the table.

[Chico_SA 521]

1 hour ago, Bodhi said:

Oh no, the coach that has been fired by his last two clubs in under 12 months on the job is off the table.

Not sure that is the point, nor the concern...

[Bodhi 1123]

1 hour ago, Chico_SA said:

Not sure that is the point, nor the concern...

I get the point, but I'm not concerned if an underwhelming coach, that may not even be a candidate, has that opinion.  I'll wait to see if we can't land actual qualified candidates due to similar sentiments.

[cmontexas 3270]

I'm ready to ride for Lando. He'll give 100 percent of himself and that will rub off on the players. If our current roster played with the heart and balls the Bradley teams used to, that's about as good as the USA can ask for.

Give me that over a bigtime Euro guy cashing in on a retirement gig and bigtiming the players

[Gucci_Suit 2643]

1 hour ago, cmontexas said:

I'm ready to ride for Lando. He'll give 100 percent of himself and that will rub off on the players. If our current roster played with the heart and balls the Bradley teams used to, that's about as good as the USA can ask for.

Give me that over a bigtime Euro guy cashing in on a retirement gig and bigtiming the players

I’m not saying I agree with the take. But Landon had the Kobe gene of competitiveness, but not quite the talent.  I love those types of people and I love Lando. Not sure it’s the right guy though. 

[The Dog 44019]

[Blotto 23491]

Sweet. Lets get a transfer portal up and running  and talk to the man. 

[Jive Turkey 12594]

21 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Is Jimmy Sexton his agent? He’s looking to get Luis a big raise from Spain.

[Macklemore 2876]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

That would be fucking amazing. He did one of the best coaching jobs in major tournament history.

[Captain Ron 12872]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

USSF: bUT DOes hE sPeak pErFeCt englIsh? 

Edited July 15 by Captain Ron

[Firemans4Horn 18036]

Yes, a coach that just won the euros with a squad that is one of the 3 favorites for WC2026 is going to leave and come coach the USMNT. Lulzzzzzzz

[Brisketexan 105079]

Yes, a coach that just won the euros with a squad that is one of the 3 favorites for WC2026 is going to leave and come coach the USMNT. Lulzzzzzzz

Yeah…that’s some gold-medal wishcasting.
Sign me up.

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

well that wasted 4 minutes

[Captain Ron 12872]

 

Adding the context of the search timeline mentioned, very damning for US Soccer.

 

On 7/13/2024 at 11:59 AM, Captain Ron said:

 

Hudson also slipped this in here, what everyone knew but few (except fans) said - the coaching search was a sham.

 

 

 

 

One last thing - WHY THE FUCK did they wait so long to even search for a coach?!!?!? I mean we know it was because they were bringing Gregg back. But the dragging of feet should have been the tip off.

 

[PittsburghTiger 6175]

On 7/13/2024 at 10:09 AM, Derka said:

 

Good for him. I don’t know if he would be a great U.S. coach but, the shit show must be brought to task for how shitty is the shit in the U.S. Federation. 

All people running the shit show must be forced to answer for their failures.

Fuck ‘em.

[Captain Ron 12872]

These guys are clueless (the guys in the video I mean).

 

 

[Ted Lange 16084]

I've listened to them a couple times, they are generally solid and were calling for Gregg to be let go.  

[dogbreath 434]

One of the podcasts said that Crocker had decided on Marsch, but the players overwhelmingly wanted berhalter and the leadership council went the players way. 

[Napoleon 8663]

Some things:

1) I was listening to an ESPN podcast from Gab Marcotti & Julien Laurens and they mentioned that Garth Southgate has a leadership council!

🤬🤬🤬

Fuck Berhalter’s tongue up Southgate’s ass!

 

2) Charlie Davies, Tony Meola, & Brian McBride were talking on their podcast, “Call It What You Want” (may be the YouTube one above), about new manager requirements and Charlie and at least one of the other guys liked Mauricio Pochettino.

The fact that he has worked with players at different levels of clubs, has an engaging personality with the press, and prefers to employ an attacking football style were things that they felt were in his favor. 

Also mentioned was that he had started to turn Chelsea around and they were playing well, and then they let him go. 

Other things that passed through my mind:

1) He’s fluent in English.

2) HE’S ARGENTINE!

Oh to have an Argentine manager!!

Vamos Yanquilandia, Carajo!

[Ted Lange 16084]

 

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

rafa

poch

that's a candidate pool

let's get 3 or 4 more names of that pedigree

can we please have panel interviews with all of the big nats names from the last 30 years?

people with negative nats karma should not participate, e.g. wondowlowski, agoos, jones, etc.

 

[Napoleon 8663]

27 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

can we please have panel interviews with all of the big nats names from the last 30 years?

people with negative nats karma should not participate, e.g. wondowlowski, agoos, jones, etc.

“Jones”?

-Cobi?

-Jermaine?

-other?

[randomhorn 1728]

[dieucla98 2942]

At least he did it with honor and resigned. Took at least some responsibility. I can respect that.

[Captain Ron 12872]

On 7/14/2024 at 7:01 PM, The Dog said:

 

On 7/14/2024 at 7:22 PM, Jive Turkey said:

Is Jimmy Sexton his agent? He’s looking to get Luis a big raise from Spain.

 

 

All of this talk about salary, we're really only bidding against ourselves. These jobs don't command the money being talked about.

Edited July 16 by Captain Ron

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

8 hours ago, Napoleon said:

“Jones”?

-Cobi?

-Jermaine?

-other?

colbi

[Captain Ron 12872]

42 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

colbi

[gsoda3 3248]

10 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 

-Jermaine?

 

that would be awful.  but perfect english, amiright? and whoever said jeff agoos....

 

[The Dog 44019]

 

[ztejas 43412]

Oh fuck I just realized we could hire Southgate.

 

[The Dog 44019]

I like this option better.

[ztejas 43412]

[Chips O'Toole 1322]

31 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Oh fuck I just realized we could hire Southgate.

 

Bro haven't you heard?  USMNT is hiring Southgate and Berhalter is taking over Austin FC when we #WolffOAT, enshittification complete. 

[Captain Ron 12872]

33 minutes ago, Chips O'Toole said:

Bro haven't you heard?  USMNT is hiring Southgate and Berhalter is taking over Austin FC when we #WolffOAT, enshittification complete. 

To be fair if you swapped Berhalter and Wolff at Austin FC, there would not be much of a change. Austin would still aimlessly pass the ball around with no direction at all.

[Chips O'Toole 1322]

6 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

To be fair if you swapped Berhalter and Wolff at Austin FC, there would not be much of a change. Austin would still aimlessly pass the ball around with no direction at all.

Very true, but the sound of fans' heads exploding would be deafening.