Star Wars Episode IX

[Red Five 40822]

24 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I’m not as big a fan of the franchise as most of you but I thought rogue one and the force awakens were pretty good films.  
 

And I’d like some sort of free trial offer so I can watch the Mandalorian to see my little friend baby Yoda

Don't they offer a free 7 day trial? I'm waiting until all eps are available. 

[Guest Lobo]

That's what I usually do with Hulu (Handmaid's Tale) and SHO (Billions).  Wife just has a principle of having more than one subscription service going at once, which I kinda agree with.  I figure I'd squeeze in Mandalorian this holiday season and then finish it before starting back up with HBO for "Curb" return in mid-January.  We get to watch maybe 2-3 hours of shit together each week so she's principally opposed to having 4 services going at once.  Plus I have to run off in shame and watch "Man in the High Castle" because people always assume I'm siding with the Reich.  

[crash_davis 23096]

vpn and torrents are the devils way of getting free stuff on the internet. you should be using vpn anyway but that's another discussion.

[Guest Lobo]

I'm cool with the $7, it's just a function of enough hours in the week to focus on one show or another.  Sorry, forget it. 

(But Have a bunch of work travel starting up again in late January for the rest of 2020, so keep the illegal suggestions coming       ) 

[Sbbruin 21826]

3 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Wrong.

Return of the Jedi is good.

Rogue One is good.

I'd even argue Solo is good for what it is.

Watched Rogue One this weekend.  That is a good movie.  Solo sucked ass.

[UT_OB1 2213]

Any chance we could get non-spoilery opinions/reviews from those that have see it?  I’m going next Thursday. 

Edited December 20, 2019 by UT_OB1

[The Dog 44017]

The truth is, the last good Star Wars movie was made in 1976.
 

FIFY get off my lawn.


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[Jersey Man10 3528]

It was awesome. Go see it.

[Levi 2585]

1 hour ago, UT_OB1 said:

Any chance we could get non-spoilery opinions/reviews from those that have see it?  I’m going next Thursday. 

Jeremy jahns or Chris stuckmann on YouTube give good reviews without spoilers. 

[tx 3 putt 76862]

Go see it, it was pretty fucking good.

will definitely see a second time in the theatre 

[BrickHorn 18215]

3 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

Any chance we could get non-spoilery opinions/reviews from those that have see it?  I’m going next Thursday. 

Meh.  It’s entertaining, but lacks soul.  The new characters never took flight and the old characters are... old.   And this episode continues the stretching of SW mythology / hokey religion into further absurdities.  The last act felt more like something out of a Harry Potter film than a Star Wars movie.    

[RGBIII 22838]

This is what Star Wars fans wanted IMO. I don’t need tertiary characters like Rose thrown in my face and crappy B plots like Canto Bright. Give me a non stop adventure with some bad ass action and some good character interaction...and we got all of those. The movie was extremely full and we didn’t really get a chance to breathe but I’m good with that, if anything tack on an extra 30 mins to relationship build and it’s probably a perfect Star Wars movie. I love that they took a dump on Rose, she’s useless, uninteresting and advances nothing in the story (she also low key killed Luke Skywalker). Rey and Kylo made the movie, I could watch those two interact all day and their force interaction was the best part of the entire trilogy. Wish we got to see Anakin again, a force ghost dark side talk with Kylo would have made my erection last much longer than 4 hours. This one is a 92/100 and I can’t wait to watch it again

With recency bias taken into account, my person rankings 5 4 6 9 7 Rouge One 3 Solo 8 1 2

[Loose Stool 112]

It was surprisingly good.  Doesn't tie up every loose end but does a decent job of bringing all the stories home.  I was pretty sure it was going to suck but I was pleasantly surprised.  I'd say it was by far the best out of the latest trilogy.

[closetohumping 17432]

I hated the last one and this one made up for it.   Tied everything up.   Really good.  And as an old, it hit home for sure

[Murfdogg21 4412]

1 hour ago, RGBIII said:

With recency bias taken into account, my person rankings 5 4 6 9 7 Rouge One 3 Solo 8 1 2

TLJ ahead of Phantom Menace, huh? Jar Jar and Pod races undoes enough of Liam Neeson and Darth Maul badassery for you to make it worse than bitch Luke drinking blue milk out the teet + 2mph space chase + Rose/Cantu Bite?

[Mojo Hand 4580]

Loved it, f all haters 

[Michael Knight 12976]

5 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

Any chance we could get non-spoilery opinions/reviews from those that have see it?  I’m going next Thursday. 

It isn't the worst star wars movie I've ever seen

[Horny Bull 2759]

1 hour ago, Loose Stool said:

I was pretty sure it was going to suck but I was pleasantly surprised.

This sums it up for me.

[Eastwood 4394]

It was the first Star Wars movie of the 3rd trilogy that felt like a new Star Wars experience. 7 was good, just recycled. 8 doesn't exist in my mind outside of advancing the Rey/Kylo plot line. 9 felt like it finally was a total advancement of the lore.

[Eskimohorn 5629]

Yep.  TLJ had a ham-fisted anti-Trumpist message of love, diversity, female empowerment, etc.  As much as I side with that perspective, I found the inclusion of that message annoying in a Star Wars movie.  Especially given its clumsy execution.

That was the least of its problems. Aliens pushed strong heroines and was anti-corporate, and it kicked ass.

The biggest issue was the space chase and the secret plan (that caused Poe to go off the rails) was to “hide” on a nearby planet until “help” arrived. It did not deliver and was a time waste while Rey and Ren did real things. 2/3 of the movie was filler.

[CycleTex87 2965]

9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Go see it, it was pretty fucking good.

will definitely see a second time in the theatre 

How about the IMAX version in 3D?

[RGBIII 22838]

7 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

TLJ ahead of Phantom Menace, huh? Jar Jar and Pod races undoes enough of Liam Neeson and Darth Maul badassery for you to make it worse than bitch Luke drinking blue milk out the teet + 2mph space chase + Rose/Cantu Bite?

Rose vs Jar Jar was a close call but the throne room fight was bad ass enough to bump it. And young Anakin was a whiny bitch

[BrickHorn 18215]

12 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Rose vs Jar Jar was a close call but the throne room fight was bad ass enough to bump it. And young Anakin was a whiny bitch

That’s pretty fine-grained.  To me, the categories are:

Tier 1: SW movies I loved and have seen many times (Star Wars, Empire, RoTJ)

Tier 2: SW movies I liked enough to sit through it again (Rogue One)

Tier 3: SW movies I enjoyed but not enough to sit through a second viewing (TFA, Solo)

Tier 4: Fucking garbage (all three prequels, TLJ)

Not sure where Episode IX falls, but it’s either Tier 2 or 3.  

[Trey3216 15343]

1 hour ago, CycleTex87 said:

How about the IMAX version in 3D?

We saw it in IMAX 3D last night.  It was pretty badass visually 

[Red Five 40822]

5,4,6,3,7,9,1,2,8 IMO.

[Levi 2585]

JJ basically said fuck episodes 7 & 8, this movie will just be non stop action and adventure. Was there a lot of fan service? Yes. Was it what we needed after ANH remake and TLJ shit show? Yes. 

[tx 3 putt 76862]

2 hours ago, CycleTex87 said:

How about the IMAX version in 3D?

I’ll probably go this route the 2nd time around 

[Fastbreak 3974]

I felt it was worse than 8, which makes it the worst overall for me. 

the series is like Texas football. You think it can’t get worse, yet it does. 

[Longhorn94 2448]

I took the wife and all 5 kids to see it last night. We loved it. My youngest said it was his favorite movie ever. It was fun and action packed. I would put it 4th behind the OT. It felt like SW. It looked like SW. It was, finally, SW. The throne fight scene was awesome. The whole journey along with the resulting complications seemed like a SW story. Go see it.

[CooterBrown 18002]

I'm taking my 7 year old to this tomorrow.  She has seen the original trilogy and will be seeing The Force Awakens tonight. I plan to skip The Last Jedi. Are there any plot points from TLJ that I should explain beforehand? I was going to go with Luke and Snoke are both dead.  Other than those two points, if you seen IX, is there anything else from the TLJ that's relevant?

 

 

[Sbbruin 21826]

4 hours ago, Longhorn94 said:

I took the wife and all 5 kids to see it last night. 

[Jersey Man10 3528]

Speaking of kids. This couple brought their newborn and he started crying multiple times. Kid finally went berserk when C3P0 was translating the Sith message and people got pissed and told them to gtfo. They left and didn't come back so that sucked for them.

[Drew 2401]

Like I said in the other thread, it wasn't good.  They spend the whole movie taking a shit on TLJ, which was a HUGE mistake as other than Empire, it was the most forward thinking(not the best) of all the movies.  Shit on Rian Johnson all you want, but at least he told a coherent story and took chances that improved the Star Wars Universe...JJ just stupidly destroyed all the good work by doing nothing but a fan service film IMO.

[Hanrahan 1306]

The movie was good. The Last Jedi was dogshit. JJ gave it the respect it deserved. Your opinions are all wrong and terrible.

[ChickenSandwich 9824]

1 hour ago, Drew said:

Like I said in the other thread, it wasn't good.  They spend the whole movie taking a shit on TLJ, which was a HUGE mistake as other than Empire, it was the most forward thinking(not the best) of all the movies.  Shit on Rian Johnson all you want, but at least he told a coherent story and took chances that improved the Star Wars Universe...JJ just stupidly destroyed all the good work by doing nothing but a fan service film IMO.

lmao, just stop.....Johnson put out a product worse than the prequels .  What forward thinking was there?  I don't think he was trying to piss off the franchises fans on purpose, but yeah, he did it on purpose and then bragged about it

[ChickenSandwich 9824]

1 hour ago, Drew said:

Like I said in the other thread, it wasn't good.  They spend the whole movie taking a shit on TLJ, which was a HUGE mistake as other than Empire, it was the most forward thinking(not the best) of all the movies.  Shit on Rian Johnson all you want, but at least he told a coherent story and took chances that improved the Star Wars Universe...JJ just stupidly destroyed all the good work by doing nothing but a fan service film IMO.

I was on the fence as to whether to see it or not, this is a huge endorsement to go

[closetohumping 17432]

34 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

lmao, just stop.....Johnson put out a product worse than the prequels .  What forward thinking was there?  I don't think he was trying to piss off the franchises fans on purpose, but yeah, he did it on purpose and then bragged about it

+1. TLJ made me want to skip this one.  Glad I didn’t. 

[Hate 20106]

If Drew hates it then it must be good. I just really can’t believe that anyone really believes that TLJ was good. They have to have been dropped on their heads while eating paint chips under the power lines in their backyards when they were kids. There is no other explanation for liking that movie.

[Junior Miller 1502]

3 hours ago, Drew said:

Like I said in the other thread, it wasn't good.  They spend the whole movie taking a shit on TLJ, which was a HUGE mistake as other than Empire, it was the most forward thinking(not the best) of all the movies.  Shit on Rian Johnson all you want, but at least he told a coherent story and took chances that improved the Star Wars Universe...JJ just stupidly destroyed all the good work by doing nothing but a fan service film IMO.

I was really planning on not seeing it. I'm digging the Mandalorian so much that I figured I'll just hate this new one because in only a few episodes I already feel far more interested in the characters on the show than I've ever been in the new characters in the movies. 

But...

What drew said means I definitely will see it. Rian took a shit on the entire star wars franchise by neutering the main villian (who never should have taken his mask off) and turning both he and Luke Skywalker into whiny ass emo pieces of shit. Made Rey look like an indecisive cunt. He made every single character in the story unlikable to me. Star wars is about campy fun not some overly dramatized garbage similar to what you'll find on Lifetime Television for women and whiny ass bitchy sissy men. Fuck Rian and I'm glad Abrams just said fuck Rian too and made it actual Star Wars again. Now I'm excited to see it. 

[aggie08 21481]

1 minute ago, Hate said:

If Drew hates it then it must be good. I just really can’t believe that anyone really believes that TLJ was good. They have to have been dropped on their heads while eating paint chips under the power lines in their backyards when they were kids. There is no other explanation for liking that movie.

My problem with Drew white knighting TLJ isn't that he likes it (taste being subjective and all), but that he can actually sit there and say that we're in the vocal minority and are just being negative for the sake of bitching. It's fascinating how he can't even see the dozens of objective glaring flaws that exist in the movie without even dipping a toe into the ocean of subjective opinions.

In the past, I've compared it to me weirdly really liking Terminator: Salvation. Except that I'm still able to realize that it's an objectively bad movie; it just ticks enough boxes on my personal preference list that I manage to look past all of the imperfections. You're allowed to like objectively bad movies. I mean, who doesn't like Showgirls? But if there was a thread full of people criticizing Terminator: Salvation, I sure as shit wouldn't feel the need to tell them that they're all wrong and just being mean ol' jerks.

[Junior Miller 1502]

Rian didn't adapt himself to star wars. He thought he was bigger than the franchise and tried to adapt star wars to himself. Fuck that guy and his hermetic piece of shit version of Luke Skywalker who tried to kill his own nephew. What is this? Some investigation Discovery channel bullshit?

[The Dog 44017]

Anyone who rates TLJ lower than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones doesn't really appreciate how bad those movies were and how poor the reception was for them. TPM was a massive letdown after waiting so long for the "next Star Wars movie".

Last Jedi had a split between the reviewers and fans, but EVERYONE agreed episodes 1 and 2 were horrible. In fact, if they had been released today then it's unlikely Episode 3 is even made (or at best, released straight to Disney Plus).

[Hate 20106]

I’d watch a 24 hour Episode 1 and 2 marathon before I’d watch TLJ for the second time. It’s the only Star Wars movie I’ve only seen once.

[tx 3 putt 76862]

23 minutes ago, Hate said:

I’d watch a 24 hour Episode 1 and 2 marathon before I’d watch TLJ for the second time. It’s the only Star Wars movie I’ve only seen once.

floating carrie fisher scene negates the entire movie 

 

 

 

[Hate 20106]

26 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

floating carrie fisher scene negates the entire movie 

 

 

 

My wife and I looked at each other with confused looks on our faces from the very beginning with the prank call scene.  It was all downhill from there. 

[Trey3216 15343]

58 minutes ago, Hate said:

My wife and I looked at each other with confused looks on our faces from the very beginning with the prank call scene.  It was all downhill from there. 

“But hey, took it in a new, original direction.  Wasn’t total fan service. Blah blah blah.”  ~ TLJ fanbois and most movie critics 

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

11 hours ago, The Dog said:

Anyone who rates TLJ lower than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones doesn't really appreciate how bad those movies were and how poor the reception was for them. TPM was a massive letdown after waiting so long for the "next Star Wars movie".

Last Jedi had a split between the reviewers and fans, but EVERYONE agreed episodes 1 and 2 were horrible. In fact, if they had been released today then it's unlikely Episode 3 is even made (or at best, released straight to Disney Plus).

this is not the way it was, at all

[Eskimohorn 5629]

this is not the way it was, at all

At Phantom Menace premiere I attended, the audience gave it a standing ovation. A lot of hype back then. The negativity started with Jar Jar. Then by Attack of the Clones, people realized what a mess was being created.

[aggie08 21481]

TLJ was so bad that it legitimately killed the subsequent Star Wars movie (starring fan favorite Han Solo, no less), and made people sour on TFA as well. TFA, as derivative as it was, was still a solid foundation and had people extremely excited about TLJ's release. TLJ made people resent all the new movies. I don't remember the Phantom Menace doing that. Attack of the Clones definitely did though. So kudos to Lucas and Rian.

Edited December 21, 2019 by aggie08

[Hate 20106]

Attack of the Clones didn't kill it for me simply because I knew the payoff was coming in ROS when Anakin turned into Vader.  I had something to look forward to.  I didn't know at the time just how badly it would be done, but I was still interested.  I didn't see Solo as my interest has been damn near extinguished.  I feel like Vader on Endor when he says to Luke, "it is too late for me my son".  There is still a tiny glimmer of good inside me, but it's going to take Luke getting getting zapped with lightning right in front of me for it to manifest in liking Star Wars going forward.  I'll always love the OT and Rogue One though.