Destiny

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

Unfortunately, not quite the sequel wasn't quite the game we hoped for. This tweet sums up my feelings pretty well.

Anyways, bigish update out on Tuesday with the return of strike (in this case nightfall) specific weapons and 6v6 IB. I'll probably be on to try the new weapon changes and nightfall rewards. 

[jofus 2266]

Let us know what you think. 

[Jebus 1305]

Yeah, I haven’t played since just after masterwork weapons came out. I might play some 6v6 banner this week but I just haven’t felt like playing at all.  Never even did the raid lair.

 

I figure maybe I’ll be back when the next dlc drops, that way all of these incremental changes that should have been in the game from the start will be incorporated, and there will be some new content too. 

[936horn 910]

D2 is second on my disappointment list only behind the Shaggy/Surly saga.

[bernorange 8359]

The (space) magic is gone.  *sniff*

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

I’m not sure I can go back at this point. 

[hornfan785 555]

I might jump on after the update at some point to check out the increased movement speed and stuff. This clips of Dawnblade in the new update is waaaaayyyyyy faster than before. Pretty crazy.

https://i.imgur.com/n9MTaHZ.gifv

Edited March 26, 2018 by hornfan785

[Radical Larry 28539]

I have the season pass so I’m sure I’ll check it out at some point. 

I’ve been playing the DLCs for Assassin’s Creed and just got into Sea of Thieves. 

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

 

The YouTube video where that gif is from is pretty interesting. The commentary is a welcomed change, though I still kind of doubt that the speed increase and heavy weapon changes are going to be all that great. The Prometheus Lens inclusion is hilarious too.

[taybo20 2825]

I need to watch that. I’ve been pretty bored with D2... I loved D1 especially at the end when all the raids gave exotic versions of the raid specific weapons

[CurlyDumps 4466]

Best case scenario is that this game follows the Diablo 3 path of being gradually improved to “worthy successor” status by the time the fisrt major expansion comes out in the fall.  

I have a like/hate relationship with Crucible.  I still enjoy it to a degree, I like certain guns, and I still play Trials when I can get a decent team. Part of it is probably because I’m pretty good at it after putting so much time in.  Also, my younger bro likes playing. He never played D1 and is blissfully unaware of Bungie’s fuckups.  

Been looking forward to the update. The game drastically needs a sandbox shakeup. I hope the update accomplishes that.

[Ebeye 116]

I haven't logged on in weeks now, and only then was to hang with a buddy of mine in Florida.  Hopefully some of these changes make it more enjoyable.  I fully admit that one of the worst things I ever did with this game was get on the Reddit forum.  It was just a cesspool of negativity.  

[jofus 2266]

i updated the clan name to SurlyHorns.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

Played some heroic strikes after the patch dropped, and it hasn't helped PvE much. The two primary system is still just way too limiting, even if linear fusion rifles finally feel great. I'll give PvP a shot later on, but not too promising. 

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

Well, I’m not surprised. 

[Texas_Rocks 346]

Played some heroic strikes after the patch dropped, and it hasn't helped PvE much. The two primary system is still just way too limiting, even if linear fusion rifles finally feel great. I'll give PvP a shot later on, but not too promising. 

PVP: Basically just get your hands on an Autumn Wind pulse rifle and go ham for a few games, then move on to whatever you were doing before this mostly worthless update dropped.

[jofus 2266]

I'm still hopeful that bungie will someday give us the game we want. but i'll keep waiting until someone tells me its here.

[bernorange 8359]

How would you Destiny die hards feel about a Destiny game where the guns were not balanced - where some guns were definitely superior to others, but where any gun you have has a limited lifespan before it breaks (wear and tear) and you need to find another copy of it.  RNG drops rates for guns would adjust so the more powerful guns are rarer.  It seems like such a simple thing, but it would definitely give people reasons to continuously grind if they enjoy the game.

[Dr. J 0]

How would you Destiny die hards feel about a Destiny game where the guns were not balanced - where some guns were definitely superior to others, but where any gun you have has a limited lifespan before it breaks (wear and tear) and you need to find another copy of it.  RNG drops rates for guns would adjust so the more powerful guns are rarer.  It seems like such a simple thing, but it would definitely give people reasons to continuously grind if they enjoy the game.

Nah, then the pressure of “too good to use” will be crushing me all the time


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[jofus 2266]

i don't expect this, but they need to separate PvE and PvP, and make PvP like halo 2.  Put cool weapons on the map that respawn, and make the game about map control. everyone starts with a generic hand cannon and/or AR. Scouts, shotguns, grenades, etc. spawn on the map.  i would be very excited about this.

they could even make Supers spawn in the map in the same way halo had camo and overshield spawns.  put enough out there and make their location random enough that everyone has a chance to get 1-2 throughout the game.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

The guns are never going to balanced as there’s way too many variables to control for. However, that doesn’t mean that PvP can’t be extremely fun. One of the biggest disappointments about Destiny 2 is that everything was balanced on the PvP with the increase in the ability cooldowns and the weapon systems which moved the game away from the chaos it was in the first one. I’d love to see a more competitive scene with 4v4 that have locked load outs, but they should have gone and expanded the 6v6 from the first game into more big-team battle scenarios (imagine Combined Arms from the first game but 10v10 or higher) or different scenarios (infected, gun play, etc). Right now, everything is stale as its essentially a glorified TDM for every round.

[CurlyDumps 4466]

I like the update, despite the breathless whining going on over at Reddit. Warlocks got a desperately needed glide buff.  The weapon meta seems to have shaken up.  Precision Autos aren’t dominant anymore. More power ammo and players dropping ammo is an improvement. Although getting snowballed by a good team controlling power can get frustrating. Arcstaff is now a super to be feared.  

It’s a step in the right direction, but it does nothing to address the lack of depth with loot, endgame, etc. Bungie has to nail the “exotics pass” and the “mods 2.0” and probably revamp the weapon system in some way to make it a game where I’d tell someone to come back and give it a second chance.  

And to echo something Gabriel brought up, it’s disappointing that Bungie hasn’t come up with any creative new modes. Trials was a game changer in D1.  Where is that innovation?  Give us SOMETHING new.

Edited March 29, 2018 by CurlyDumps

[pearlandhorn 3269]

I haven't played Destiny 2 in about 2 months.  I have 110 hours in it.  I have over 3k hours in D1.  Bungie's inability to do anything that their community crows for has really lost all the faith I have in them as a company to continue making good games.

D2 is absolutely awful when comparing to D1 in just about every way to me.  Their lack of development to implement game changing content will doom the Destiny universe.  Wife and I occasionally turn on D1 and run strikes or do raids with our old group.  Population of D2 is down significantly since release.  Almost Division-esque.

[hornfan785 555]

Yeah, it's pretty depressing. It's been 3 months since I last played Destiny 2. According to WastedOnDestiny, I spent 1175 hours in D1; I only have 97 hours in D2.

[Texas_Rocks 346]

D1 to D2 was one of the most successful “bait and switch” scams that I’ve ever seen.

D2 was certainly NOT a mistake. Bungie knew exactly what they were doing when they hurriedly slapped this smartphone app quality game together.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

They updated the roadmap:

Also released the first image of the next DLC:

 

Hopefully it's a lot better than CoO was. Roadmap changes are shifted towards the fall, which is pretty disappointing. 

[Dr.J 31]

well damn.  random weapon rolls and weapon slot changes look like they are finally listening to everything the fans have been saying.  maybe i'll try playing again.

[jofus 2266]

no new raid?

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

I'm pretty sure there'll be a new raid, but I don't think that Prestige mode for it is coming out (nor for the Eater of Worlds one). If enough of us come back for May, I'd love to give some of the older raids a shot.

[jofus 2266]

I’m always up for the raid. Still haven’t tried raid lairs or done anything to obtain masterworks gear. 

[Anton Chigurh 3319]

Shit I never even beat the raid on easy mode.

[Dr.J 31]

I never even loaded into the raid.  got bored before I was even strong enough to try it

[Waterboarder 343]

I played through the raid, but the rewards didn't justify the time.  Their refusal to see that the rewards from VoG were exactly what the player base wanted is bizarre.  Granted the raid design steadily decreased throughout the life of Destiny

[CurlyDumps 4466]

On 4/12/2018 at 4:48 PM, Waterboarder said:

I played through the raid, but the rewards didn't justify the time.  Their refusal to see that the rewards from VoG were exactly what the player base wanted is bizarre.  Granted the raid design steadily decreased throughout the life of Destiny

Crota and WotM dropped some powerful weapons.  Kings Fall loot kinda sucked, but the raid was really well done.  Just different. longer, more difficult, with more complicated mechanics.  Not my favorite, but I’ve heard people say it’s their favorite.  And WotM was excellent.  The last boss fight was probably the best raid encounter in the game IMO from a mechanics standpoint.  The way it demanded movement, communication, and teamwork while allowing much more flexibility in loadouts.  everything that made Destiny gameplay great kinda dovetails in that encounter.  Fantastic design.

I think the d2 is really good, it’s just not as fun with the current sandbox, and the loot is woefully samey.  Nothing you get is any better than your best non raid weapons.

Edited April 15, 2018 by CurlyDumps

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

 

Holy shit, Graviton Lance is getting a buff. 

[Radical Larry 28539]

Shit, I may play a little just to use it. 

[Texas_Rocks 346]

 
Holy shit, Graviton Lance is getting a buff. 

It was a little tough spotting the actual damage with multiple players shooting rockets and etc.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

I think someone on reddit was claiming it was 399, but it still looks a lot better than their first go around.

Also, Iron Banner 6v6 is up. It's so much more enjoyable than 4v4 as it's at a much quicker pace. 

[jofus 2266]

Anyone going to be on next week?

[Radical Larry 28539]

I bought the season pass, so I’ll be playing it.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

I'll definitely be on next week running through content again. Exotic masterworks seems like it's going to be fun. 

[jofus 2266]

i may get on tonight just to get familiar with everything again.  haven't played since CoO.

[Radical Larry 28539]

 

[Jebus 1305]

Got mine downloaded, I’ll give it a shot when they finish the server maintenance or whatever.  It will be interesting to see how the game is after being gone for a few of these incremental updates. 

I wanted to play some 6v6 banner, but just never got around to it, too busy with god of war.  But since I finished that one and far cry 5, it’s a good time to check back in with destiny.   

[Radical Larry 28539]

If any of the Xbox crew wants to work through the new stuff this evening, send me an invite. Looks like the recommended light level is 310 to start. I haven't played since the last expansion so I'm a little under that. 

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

I finished the story and the majority of the adventures. It's much more fun than CoO, but it still goes by quickly. 

Some of the exotic updates are incredible though. Risk Runner and Graviton Lance just destroy adds like it's a joke. 

I'll try to be on later tonight, but if not, I'll be on the rest of the week to mess around, run some strikes, etc. 

[Radical Larry 28539]

About being under 310, I did the milestone for doing public events and got to 319 in less than an hour. It helped that I got a 335 Merciless from Cayde for turning in the milestone. 

[Radical Larry 28539]

Graviton Lance buff is ridiculous.

[pistolsfiring11 1]

Suros Regime is back. Don't mind if I do.

Also, Prometheus Lens also got something of a buff for PvE. The magazine is now 100 and it simply chews through adds. And with its perk, you'll basically never need ammo.

[GabrielsHorn 2183]

If we have enough people, do we want to run the raid (Leviathan) or the older Raid Lair on Friday night? Should be a good way to burn through content that we didn’t do the first time.