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8 hours ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

Speak for yourself.  What I want is a good, strong monarchy with a tasteful and decent king who has some knowledge of theology and geometry.

How’s your valve?

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14 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

That article from 2014 goes into the history on Simes and Center for National Interest quite a bit.  It mentions Richard Burt, but doesn't detail him much.  Burt had been a well respected ambassador to Germany under Reagan, and helped negotiate a nuclear arms treaty.  But, more recently, he was a registered lobbyist working for the consortium (including Gazprom) behind the Nordstream 2 pipeline.  He and Simes were influential in consulting Trump on the content of Trump's pro-Russia foreign policy speech in April 2016 at the Mayflower.  

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17 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Dan Bongino is that beady-eyed stuffed monkey doll you win at the ring toss at the fair and you take it home and at night you think you hear a rat scuttling past your door but when you get up to check everything seems normal but right before you turn the light off again you notice that the monkey doll is in a different place from where you put it.

Then when you go back to the fairgrounds, you see that it's an empty field, not a trace of sawdust, just a wrought iron fence in one corner enclosing an overgrown graveyard.

Oddly specific. 

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35 minutes ago, Tuco said:

That article from 2014 goes into the history on Simes and Center for National Interest quite a bit.  It mentions Richard Burt, but doesn't detail him much.  Burt had been a well respected ambassador to Germany under Reagan, and helped negotiate a nuclear arms treaty.  But, more recently, he was a registered lobbyist working for the consortium (including Gazprom) behind the Nordstream 2 pipeline.  He and Simes were influential in consulting Trump on the content of Trump's pro-Russia foreign policy speech in April 2016 at the Mayflower.  

There is a cadre of guys (mostly guys)— mostly old cold warriors and anti-Soviet Russian emigres— who dedicated their life to fighting the Reds and then became emotionally unable to accept what Russia turned into under Putin. They became extremely valuable for the Putin regime and they played the long game.  Back in the early to mid-2000s, Russia went on a charm offensive to woo these communities.  Putin arranged paid trips to Russia for former dissidents and the children/grandchildren of the White exile communities and engaged in a push to get them passports. They lured the Russian Church Abroad back into union with Moscow and embarked on a campaign to install friendly bishops and clergy and ostracize intransigent old anti-Communists who objected that Patriarchs Alexei and Kirill were former KGB agents and not to be trusted.  They wined and dined former foreign policy mandarins and had them meet “former enemies who were now friends” at think tank events and paid them to help build a “new relationship.”  In retrospect it’s all completely obvious but it’s very hard to admit that you’ve allowed yourself to get played. And eventually you double down and believe that these people really are your friends.

The PRC is currently using very similar tactics against Chinese diaspora as well as the huge group of “China hands” especially in the business community who were proud of the work to build things and open doors in the 1990s and 2000s and who are loathe to admit that Xi’s China is not “peacefully rising” and that it views the U.S. as an enemy. The story of that Albany staffer is amazing, she was openly posting from PRC official receptions! 
 

There are a handful of countries— Russia, China, Iran, and increasingly Turkey and Hungary— where any sort of engagement with their officials should be viewed as most likely compromise unless there’s a clear and easily explainable reason for it.  If you’re in the orbit by choice, thats a bad sign. 

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On 9/6/2024 at 12:33 PM, Underdog said:

Looking forward to reading about Pool “accidentally” falling out of an apartment window. 

This is in jest but the fact is that Russian security services are in a bad place.  They are run by vicious mediocrities with few institutional checks and balances answerable to a tyrant who no longer cares about his image.  Britney Griner is a good example, she was in Russia because the Russian state wanted high-profile athletic talent to play there.  They had no compunction about tossing her in Russian prison in a bid to retrieve an arms dealer.  The long term is not part of their game now and potential collaborators should think about how they might treat someone nobody cares about when the world isn’t watching.  Federal prison is actually one of the more optimal outcomes to getting in bed with them. 

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Dumb shit bringing up Travis Kelce's $100M podcasting contract to explain how the money be was getting wasn't out of the ordinary. 

Hey genius, he's currently dating the most popular person alive, and his show is fair game for any company to advertise on. Most companies wouldn't (and can't) be caught dead advertising on his platform. How much money does Black Rifle Coffee possible have?

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8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Dumb shit bringing up Travis Kelce's $100M podcasting contract to explain how the money be was getting wasn't out of the ordinary. 

Hey genius, he's currently dating the most popular person alive, and his show is fair game for any company to advertise on. Most companies wouldn't (and can't) be caught dead advertising on his platform. How much money does Black Rifle Coffee possible have?

Travis Kelce is a future NFL Hall of Fame football player with multiple Super Bowl rings and his girlfriend can raise a developed nation’s GDP by a percentage point by choosing to hold a concert there.  Tim Pool has a beanie and a 9th grade education. So they are in the same ballpark when it comes to podcasting. 

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One under-appreciated aspect of all this is the bomb that went off in the conservative grifter community, which is famously known for solidarity and good will, not paranoia and backbiting. Every single one of these tools is frenetically trying to figure out who is working with either the Russians or the feds while feverishly paying lawyers to comb through their affairs.  Every single sponsor is paying someone a retainer.  I wonder how many “retroactive FARA registration?” searches have been registered. 
 

Truly a shame what this may do to a tight-knit community. 

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

One under-appreciated aspect of all this is the bomb that went off in the conservative grifter community, which is famously known for solidarity and good will, not paranoia and backbiting. Every single one of these tools is frenetically trying to figure out who is working with either the Russians or the feds while feverishly paying lawyers to comb through their affairs.  Every single sponsor is paying someone a retainer.  I wonder how many “retroactive FARA registration?” searches have been registered. 

Truly a shame what this may do to a tight-knit community. 

Yeah, they probably all have a lot of NDA's signed, and the actual True Believers are already paranoid as hell, so this is just stirring up that pot.

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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I never heard Tim Pool talk before. Is his voice like that all the time? 

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

why do all these conservative podcasters sound like 13 year old boys?

It's difficult for your balls to drop if you sit around clenched up in front of a spit-speckled mictophone.

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15 hours ago, Hefeweizen said:

Actually this is one of the issues with podcasting and the ability for total fucking morons to have their voice amplified.

Same in the weather world.  The credible sources for winter, severe, and tropical meteorology appears online exactly the same way as a teenager in mom's basement craving clicks.

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16 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, they probably all have a lot of NDA's signed, and the actual True Believers are already paranoid as hell, so this is just stirring up that pot.

One place that NDAs rarely hold up, and many or most have a clause exempting disclosure to, is when law-enforcement comes a-knockin, even civil subpoenas tend to be an out on NDAs.

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On 9/6/2024 at 4:37 PM, RDCanecutter said:

Dan Bongino is that beady-eyed stuffed monkey doll you win at the ring toss at the fair and you take it home and at night you think you hear a rat scuttling past your door but when you get up to check everything seems normal but right before you turn the light off again you notice that the monkey doll is in a different place from where you put it.

Then when you go back to the fairgrounds, you see that it's an empty field, not a trace of sawdust, just a wrought iron fence in one corner enclosing an overgrown graveyard.

…and while you are gone, the Dust Witch floats by in her balloon and slimes the roof of your house.

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18 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I never heard Tim Pool talk before. Is his voice like that all the time? 

He never developed beyond the emotional maturity of a 14-year-old which is why all the incel bullshit resonated so strongly with him. Russia identified the ideal poster child (even though he's like 40) for bitter Millennials who never got laid in their 20s, have no chance of being married, or got divorced and it broke their brains. Pool's job is to harness those grievances and turn them into anti-NATO and conservative action

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The name I am waiting to resurface is John Solomon.  He keeps turning up like a bad penny.  After being a big part of Rudy's attempt to get Ukraine to smear Biden with the Burisma deal, he and The Hill went their separate ways and Solomon started his own media company/podcast.  He was also involved in Trump's confidential documents case, serving as one of Trump's representatives with the National Archive.  He just seems to live in that Venn diagram of Trump/Russia/media and I imagine his income has decrease considerably over the last ten years. 

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