Donald Trump Assassination Attempt

[immamac 41615]

This is the thread for all discussion around this event. 

There are rules for this community including not wishing death on anyone. 

Anyone posting anything encouraging assassination attempts in the United States will be banned. 

Anyone posting blatant and disprovable information will be banned. 

Discussion is permitted and speculation into what the ramifications is allowed. Unfortunately it is not possible to divorce the possibility of death in an assassination attempt, but please keep discussion to theoretical situations including political candidate death to a responsible minimum. This topic will be heavily moderated.

The stance of the site is that political violence has no place in American politics. 

[4th&Five 41111]

[Chopper 16343]

is mocking hypocrisy allowed?

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2621]

I’m really worried things are about to get bad.  This is a disaster.  
 

Anyone celebrating is what’s wrong with society.  Plus they are very short sighted

Edited July 14 by FORTY NINE TO ZERO

[Judge Roybeanbag 11728]

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The stance of the site is that political violence has no place in American politics. 

Good luck with that, but appreciate the sentiment.  January 6 out front says hi.

Edited July 14 by Judge Roybeanbag

[StassneyHorn 6429]

Hang tight, buy a shirt

 

[hobbes2702 12516]

Also do we have any idea how the shooter died? Who shot him?

[hookemATL 11503]

Oswald and Hinckley. 

[SmokeyTheBear 5554]

"Let me get my shoes" "hold on, hold on...... fight"

First words from trump after being shot. 

[Ted Lange 15924]

We will learn about the shooter soon enough.   1 thing is almost certain, it was someone who should’ve have never had access to a gun. 

[atomheartbevo 88913]

1 minute ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

I’m really worried things are about to get bad.  This is a disaster

Or it could cause some people to step back and realize that the atmosphere is getting too crazy.

We don’t know who it is yet, but my first thought (ironically a MAGA relative told me) was one of the Qanon idiots who have really tuned on him because some of the crazier ones feel like he’s betrayed them and made them a laughingstock (they don’t get that they did it to themselves). Just a theory but those people who still cling to it are fucking nuts   

Whole thing is weird, not sure why he was raised up on the stage like he was.  I don’t buy the BB gun breaking the teleprompter and the glass hitting him, but internet gonna internet.  

[Red Five 40274]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Also do we have any idea how the shooter died? Who shot him?

Secret service.

[Duane Moore 5236]

9 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is the thread for all discussion around this event. 

There are rules for this community including not wishing death on anyone. 

Anyone posting anything encouraging assassination attempts in the United States will be banned. 

Anyone posting blatant and disprovable information will be banned. 

Discussion is permitted and speculation into what the ramifications is allowed. Unfortunately it is not possible to divorce the possibility of death in an assassination attempt, but please keep discussion to theoretical situations including political candidate death to a responsible minimum. This topic will be heavily moderated.

The stance of the site is that political violence has no place in American politics. 

Well said. Thank you for being the adult in the room. 

[mdmost 42316]

Biden speaking now. Said he tried to call Trump but hasn't gotten through to him. Said there's no place for political violence in this country.

[SKJ 1298]

2 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

We will learn about the shooter soon enough.   1 thing is almost certain, it was someone who should’ve have never had access to a gun. 

I'm not sure that's what Trump would've wanted

[hobbes2702 12516]

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Secret service.

Is that confirmed? Is that the second grouping of shots?

[Neonmoon 38126]

This attempt is a consequence of Trump’s increasing rhetoric of violence 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23247]

Trump mobilized a violent mob to overthrow the government after he lost an election.  Everything that happens to him after should be viewed through this lens. 

Political violence is completely unacceptable. 

[Captainant 26902]

I'm not sure what to make of the SS allowing trump to stand back up and put his fist up in the air after a botched assassination attempt. Doesn't add up to me, I'm very curious to get more verified reporting in on this whole thing. 

Wild to be bottle feeding an infant and hear that trump got shot but didn't die. 

[YGIFS 19445]

Politics aside, can anybody with some modicum of expertise speak to:

-Was that a suppressor or just a high-powered pellet gun?  The audio is for shit

-What caliber/weapon do you think it was if not a pellet gun?  

-Why did the Secret Service do that prop-up move with him?  They either smother the asset with their bodies and/or move it behind a barricade of some sort (podium/car/wall/bleacher)?  That was just fucking weird to hoist him up like "hey, here's this guy!  We still don't have the shooter detained, but check out this shit!"   That's weird even by low-level FBI shit.  

Edited July 14 by YGIFS

[Balcones 514]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Or it could cause some people to step back and realize that the atmosphere is getting too crazy.

We don’t know who it is yet, but my first thought (ironically a MAGA relative told me) was one of the Qanon idiots who have really tuned on him because some of the crazier ones feel like he’s betrayed them and made them a laughingstock (they don’t get that they did it to themselves). Just a theory but those people who still cling to it are fucking nuts   

Whole thing is weird, not sure why he was raised up on the stage like he was.  I don’t buy the BB gun breaking the teleprompter and the glass hitting him, but internet gonna internet.  

So, you really have no idea but feel good about making shit up?  

[hobbes2702 12516]

@immamac did you delete my post asking for clarity on your rules? What’s the deal dude?

[mdmost 42316]

Just now, Captainant said:

I'm not sure what to make of the SS allowing trump to stand back up and put his fist up in the air after a botched assassination attempt. Doesn't add up to me, I'm very curious to get more verified reporting in on this whole thing. 

Wild to be bottle feeding an infant and hear that trump got shot but didn't die. 

Definitely a failure by the SS since the distance they showed on ABC from where the shooter was thought to be and where Trump was should've been picked up by the agents and police in the area. 

[NAVY 6667]

4 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

We will learn about the shooter soon enough.   1 thing is almost certain, it was someone who should’ve have never had access to a gun. 

Everyone should have access too eleventy guns 

[B00M 6024]

Our society is so quick to jump to conspiracy theories. We’re so fucking stupid. 

[McCroskey 1483]

Trump mobilized a violent mob to overthrow the government after he lost an election.  Everything that happens to him after should be viewed through this lens. 

lol. Seek help, bro.

[David Dennison 17754]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Trump mobilized a violent mob to overthrow the government after he lost an election.  Everything that happens to him after should be viewed through this lens. 

Political violence is completely unacceptable. 

But, sadly, very much a part of the American fabric.

[Willfully Horn 7854]

Tfg’s blood apparently clots super fast. Head wounds bleed a lot, maybe ears don’t:

[henrygandorf 28754]

trump may have to resign after this.

[blacklab 11818]

5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

@immamac did you delete my post asking for clarity on your rules? What’s the deal dude?

there's a board to discuss moderation, this thread is not the place

[TexArcher 37040]

12 minutes ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

I’m really worried things are about to get bad.  This is a disaster.  
 

Anyone celebrating is what’s wrong with society.  Plus they are very short sighted

100% this.

I'm still processing it, as we all are, but anybody celebrating this is an idiot and an asshole.  Somebody just took a shot at a former president.

[Captainant 26902]

3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Definitely a failure by the SS since the distance they showed on ABC from where the shooter was thought to be and where Trump was should've been picked up by the agents and police in the area. 

It just doesn't fit at all with my mental model of the SS or trump - a supposedly tactically competent bodyguards failing to protect a famous coward, who stands back up to face an unseen sniper? Wtf is going on?

[hobbes2702 12516]

Just now, blacklab said:

there's a board to discuss moderation, this thread is not the place

I responded directly to what was posted in this thread and asked a question pertaining to this thread. 
If wishing death on anyone is not allowed on this site, then we have a lot of threads and board to lock up. 

[A-Tex Devil 2412]

So if we find out the shooter was mentally ill but still purchased the gun legally, is politicizing it to suggest, um, hey, it’s your fault Republicans?

[mdmost 42316]

Just now, Captainant said:

It just doesn't fit at all with my mental model of the SS or trump - a supposedly tactically competent bodyguards failing to protect a famous coward, who stands back up to face an unseen sniper? Wtf is going on?

I mean it's not always going to be like the movies. 

[Pato del Muerto 52035]

So was this a real attempt? I was out and about and my phone buzzed with an Apple News alert that he was safe after something sounding like shots were heard. Not sure where to jump in to find out what actually happened. 

[hobbes2702 12516]

Lester Holt just said the shooter was firing from outside the perimeter in an elevated position. How the hell could that have happened? What is the secret service doing?

Edited July 14 by hobbes2702

[mdmost 42316]

DA of Butler Co says one bystander is dead, a 2nd is critical condition. Doesn't know if the shooter was a male or female. Shooter was the roof of a building adjacent to the venue. 

Edited July 14 by mdmost

[Dennis Taylor 18567]

8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Definitely a failure by the SS since the distance they showed on ABC from where the shooter was thought to be and where Trump was should've been picked up by the agents and police in the area. 

 

Watch this first

 

 

Edited July 14 by Dennis Taylor

[Captainant 26902]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

I mean it's not always going to be like the movies. 

No, I mean this was exactly LIKE the movies which is why I am eager to get more verified reporting on it 

[staboner 4940]

eh prob just some actors or something

[KYHorn 16707]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Lester Holt just said the shooter was firing from outside the perimeter in an elevated position. How the hell could that have happened? What is the secret service doing?

Edit: sorry, just missed it and can't delete embedded video

Edited July 14 by KYHorn

[HRSchenker 2215]

This is one of those moments in American history where you know things have changed forever but just don't know what exactly has changed. God help us. 

[wildcat09 28485]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Lester Holt just said the shooter was firing from outside the perimeter in an elevated position. How the hell could that have happened? What is the secret service doing?

Cocaine would be my guess.

[jimmyjazz 45162]

4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

100% this.

I'm still processing it, as we all are, but anybody celebrating this is an idiot and an asshole.  Somebody just took a shot at a former president.

Clarifying.

[hobbes2702 12516]

1 minute ago, HRSchenker said:

This is one of those moments in American history where you know things have changed forever but just don't know what exactly has changed. God help us. 

Things changed forever when the peaceful transition of power was stopped in 2021.

[David Dennison 17754]

1 minute ago, staboner said:

eh prob just some actors or something

[Message Board User 12383]

This is either gross negligence or something much, much worse.

 

[David Dennison 17754]

Just now, hobbes2702 said:

Things changed forever when the peaceful transition of power was stopped in 2021.

And 1861. 

Just sayin'.

[Surly Bevo 24463]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

No, I mean this was exactly LIKE the movies which is why I am eager to get more verified reporting on it 

Yea, the stand him up, not have a body between him and the crowd, allow the time for the fist pump was odd.  I'm in no way submitting what any of that means at this point as it could run the absolute gamut of possibilities and the general rule is never ascribe to conspiracy that which can simply be ascribed to stupidity.  But it was definitely odd.