Donald Trump Assassination Attempt

[bolverk 29035]

1 minute ago, scottsins said:

It will continue to run as long as a bunch of people are actually willing to believe (and spread likely lies) that SS protocol would be to let a would-be assassin get a round off before neutralizing him.

FIFM

[Leeroy Jenkins 2338]

BS story.  All reports were metal sights and no scope. 

[royiv 9044]

18 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

True. Unfortunately, everything will continue to run like this until SS clarifies what happened. And they haven’t. I understand they may be limited in what they can say but for the rest of us we all would like to know what the fuck went  wrong so it never happens again. 

I think you need to take a short break from the internet for the sake of your own mental health. It’s a weird sensation to watch someone go down the rabbit hole in realtime.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11508]

We are under no obligation to post every 15 year old retards statement on 4chan here.  

[freyguy 4239]

1 hour ago, rage-a-holic said:

Cool. I want to see a video of one of the keyboard warriors here 

• sneaking onto guarded property
• scrambling up a ladder with an AR
• get surprised by a cop behind you, shoot at the cop
• then immediately turn around and hit a moving head from 130 yards

Yes, I know, you're all Texas hunting legend badasses who make that shot in your sleep with a one pump air rifle.

I have an AR, been shooting since I was 7 and I can't hit a cantaloupe with my AR from past 100 yards without a dialed in scope.

cantaloupes are serious business.  6 people have died so far this year from listeria poisoning.  Can't say if they were all from college station though.

[BamaATL 16006]

12 minutes ago, Blotto said:

No fucking way he only played 9 this morning.

Yeah, but he shot an 81.  

[mdmost 42316]

3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

We are under no obligation to post every 15 year old retards statement on 4chan here.  

And hence the problem with social media. Every moron can be amplified and any claim by the government can be viewed as a conspiracy. 

[David Dennison 17754]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

And hence the problem with social media. Every moron can be amplified and any claim by the government can be viewed as a conspiracy. 

[Sawbonz 26808]

14 minutes ago, royiv said:

I think you need to take a short break from the internet for the sake of your own mental health.

Definitely motto worthy 

[AUS-97HORN 11550]

honestly surprised that no one has mentioned there is a modern day parallel for this:

Yitzhak Rabin's assassin wasnt from the other party... he was an ultra orthodox Jew pissed that Rabin had agreed to the Oslo accords which committed Israel to give them best attempt at peace in the middle east. 

He was 25 years old. 

 

as for yesterdays shooter... wouldnt be surprised for news to eventually  come out that some policy Trump either "abandoned" or some stance Trump advocated for,  that was against whatever right wing policy he believed in is going to be the underlying reason this kid tried what he tried.

 

Edited July 15 by AUS-97HORN

[C-Man 26617]

3 hours ago, rage-a-holic said:

That's ridiculous. He hit Trump in the ear from 130 yards with a non-scoped rifle, right after he was surprised by a cop crawling up behind him.

I love how surly is suddenly full of hardcore leftist marine snipers.

I still wonder if he actually hit Trump or if he hit the teleprompter and that shattered and cut Trump. I know Trump has said he was shot and that certainly sounds much cooler than getting hit with teleprompter shrapnel.

[NorthLoop 13929]

3 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

honestly surprised that no one has mentioned there is a modern day parallel for this:

Yitzhak Rabin's assassin wasnt from the other party... he was an ultra orthodox Jew pissed that Rabin had agreed to the Oslo accords which committed Israel to give them best attempt at peace in the middle east. 

He was 25 years old. 

 

as for yesterdays shooter... wouldnt be surprised for news to eventually  come out that some policy Trump either "abandoned" or some stance Trump advocated for,  that was against whatever right wing policy he believed in is going to be the underlying reason this kid tried what he tried.

 

We may never know, but I'm going with this being completely apolitical. Basically a school shooter who decided to go a different route than killing kids. 

[Pato del Muerto 52035]

33 minutes ago, bolverk said:

In the 4chan post, he claims he was detained for several hours for questioning, gets fired, and then posts his story on 4chan an hour later. Yeah, that really adds up.

(I clicked so you don't have to.)

 

Adjust the scope, huh. 

[tx 3 putt 75222]

3 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Look the President addresses from the Oval Office in a bit tonite. The ball goes back in Trump’s court to see if HE ESPECIALLY can tone down the rhetoric and act presidential and encourage most of his speakers at the convention to do the same. It’s a win for Biden at this point unless Trump can tone down the vast majority of the rhetoric and deliver a peaceful and hopeful convention. So this actually works in Biden’s favor, he gives strong Oval Office address which will be praised asking for rhetoric to die down and both sides to do this. Passes the ball to Trump. All eyes on him to see if he can meet the challenge. It’s a good move for Biden, and it buys time with his detractors who are divided, 

 

he’s going to amp it up !!!

[Buzzrock 14779]

Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics claims to have a source within SS, and there’s some disturbing stuff in her reports 

 

[immamac 41615]

Do we have a collection of complete facts up to this point somewhere? Like a very dry post with bullet points or numbers of chronological facts? 

Thanks. 

[deech 2224]

With regards to the sniper story - clearly false based on false information about scope. 

Regardless, in reporting I read somewhere there were reference to a huge near fuck up I believe with W's protection at a rally/event.  Local PD positioned a sniper team at an event/rally and the Secret Service Sniper teams weren't in the loop on their location.  So SS snipers allegedly came really close to murdering a local PD sniper team at the same event, but did not. 

So if there was some delay in giving a green light to fire - that may be some of the explanation.  

[speed817 18826]

I'm sure there is a person here who is unbiased and will post all the facts

[Willfully Horn 7854]

According to Reuters, as of 8:30PM CST, this dumbase did register to vote as a Republican, and did contribute to the gotv organization. His father did purchase the AR 556 long gun he used.His hs counselor did not know him to be political, and claimed the shooter was not the subject of bullying. Everyone quoted in the article expressed surprise by his actions:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/heres-what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-suspected-trump-rally-shooter-2024-07-14/

[tx 3 putt 75222]

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Do we have a collection of complete facts up to this point somewhere? Like a very dry post with bullet points or numbers of chronological facts? 

Thanks. 

let me check black twitter for you …

[mdmost 42316]

4 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics claims to have a source within SS, and there’s some disturbing stuff in her reports 

 

Oh boy

Quote

A source within the Secret Service community tells RCP that the agency’s rules of engagement in this situation are to wait until the president is fired upon to return fire. 

“You want to take a shot then find out the guy was holding a telescope?” the source asked. “The Secret Service is by nature reactive … and you better be right when you do react or you’re f-----d.” 

 

[Jersey Man10 3474]

I came here for info but all I see is horseshit.

[tx 3 putt 75222]

8 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics claims to have a source within SS, and there’s some disturbing stuff in her reports 

 

 

Trump only had one of his regular detail with him. His normal SS team was been working 7 days a week, fatigue. The Pittsburgh SS office staffed this event and they had more resources at a jill Biden event. The sniper team was only approved the day before 

Edited July 15 by tx 3 putt

[DixonHur 10837]

I haven't posted on this topic yet because I've waiting for more facts to come out, but one thing is bugging me.

How did the shooter make it to the building, let alone the roof, while carrying a rifle without being seen?

Edited July 15 by DixonHur

[Js1 82948]

Just now, DixonHur said:

I haven't posted on this topic yet because I've waiting for more facts to come out, but one thing is bugging me.

How did the shooter make it to the building, let alone the roof, while carrying a rifle without being seen?

That’s what everyone wants to know and has asked.

[smuggs 9309]

11 minutes ago, immamac said:

Do we have a collection of complete facts up to this point somewhere? Like a very dry post with bullet points or numbers of chronological facts? 

Thanks. 

The posting up to this point has been moist to quite moist.

[YGIFS 19445]

Bad News-any official campaign event by either party, there will be a 7-day holding period on the sale of ladders within a 50-mile radius.

Good news-any official campaign event by either party, there will be a sale on rifles within a 50-mile radius.

Maybe the rally had too many doors?  This fucking simulation.  

I'm picturing the Secret Service interview with the local officer who confronted the shooter. 

"So you saw the suspect in that prone position with his weapon aimed at the podium.  He turned around and took aim at you and you climbed down the ladder?  Why?"  

-Well, I have to make it home safely to my family.

"Did you at least knock the ladder down/haul it away afterwards to make it more difficult for the shooter to flee the scene?"

-Wait, that's a thing?  

[SydneyCarton 47294]

16 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics claims to have a source within SS, and there’s some disturbing stuff in her reports 

 

Just to be clear, Real Clear Politics is a trash right wing site. 
 

https://adfontesmedia.com/realclear-politics-bias-and-reliability/

[mchookem 15535]

46 minutes ago, freyguy said:

cantaloupes are serious business.  6 people have died so far this year from listeria poisoning.  Can't say if they were all from college station though.

it's a langolier!

[Jiggy-Z 3421]

15 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I haven't posted on this topic yet because I've waiting for more facts to come out, but one thing is bugging me.

How did the shooter make it to the building, let alone the roof, while carrying a rifle without being seen?

Hiding in plain sight.

[Dahobbs 17180]

9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Just to be clear, Real Clear Politics is a trash right wing site. 
 

https://adfontesmedia.com/realclear-politics-bias-and-reliability/

Yeah, I'm betting the "source" is the 4 chan posting. 

[tbone_ 13977]

We may never know, but I'm going with this being completely apolitical. Basically a school shooter who decided to go a different route than killing kids. 

100% this

[scottsins 1926]

 

Her quote doesn’t actually say what her assertion about it does, but whatever.

[Pancho 42224]

 

[Michael Knight 12699]

2 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

I shouldn’t have called Penelope a bitch. I just get tired of being called a beating over and over. It’s one main reason I haven’t posted in months. But all of this stuff is so fascinating to me I wanted to have a place to share my thoughts. 
 

if you don’t already have me on ignore @PenelopeWitherspoon I am sorry I called you a bitch. Will curtail my post and remove the bitch part.

You don't have to post whatever inane thoughts come to your mind, take a second to reflect and chillax

[Helobious 9408]

What’s the point of an attempted political assassination if no one knows your motive? Apparently shooter had no political social media posts or anything. If he left behind a note or manifesto it’s at the mercy of authorities to release it now. Which is why most shooters that do that kind of thing lately make a post or video online so its guaranteed to reach at least some audience. It appears this guy did none of that.

[David Dennison 17754]

So have Republicans started calling them lady agents yet?

[Surly Bevo 24463]

1 minute ago, Helobious said:

What’s the point of an attempted political assassination if no one knows your motive? Apparently shooter had no political social media posts or anything. If he left behind a note or manifesto it’s at the mercy of authorities to release it now. Which is why most shooters that do that kind of thing lately make a post or video online so its guaranteed to reach at least some audience. It appears this guy did none of that.

I mean sometimes there isn't an obvious one.  The guy who shot up the Strip and killed 60 people the flimsiest thing they could ever link motive wise was that MAYBE he was pissed off at casinos for not treating him as well as he believed he should be.  Lots of "glory" shoots don't have a whole lot of motive.

[Nicole44 21954]

The reporter on MSNBC earlier who has a good relationship with the SS: 

agents said the need more technology

what happened yesterday was worst nightmare come true

Not Enough SS and counter snipers to cover everyone and every event they have to cover so LE picks up slack in different places. Sometimes LE is understaffed. There is a lot of attrition as many SS are retiring. They are spread thin.

they have many people in DC they must guard and counter sniper for and with the rallies by both candidates and Harris and also the conventions agents spread thin and are exhausted, 

none of this explains ladder boy on the one building with great sight lines to Trump. 
 

just paraphrasing the whole interview on MSNBC but that is what the reporter said, 

 

[Pancho 42224]

4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What’s the point of an attempted political assassination if no one knows your motive? Apparently shooter had no political social media posts or anything. If he left behind a note or manifesto it’s at the mercy of authorities to release it now. Which is why most shooters that do that kind of thing lately make a post or video online so its guaranteed to reach at least some audience. It appears this guy did none of that.

His family was paid by nick Fuentes and the other radical right wing groups in exchange for a penthouse in trump tower-heaven north 

You could say he was making America great again……………………………..alt-right.

 

 

[YGIFS 19445]

6 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What’s the point of an attempted political assassination if no one knows your motive? Apparently shooter had no political social media posts or anything. If he left behind a note or manifesto it’s at the mercy of authorities to release it now. Which is why most shooters that do that kind of thing lately make a post or video online so its guaranteed to reach at least some audience. It appears this guy did none of that.

You're right, the pattern is usually leave something behind that you kinda want to be found afterwards.  But whatever there is, likely some kinda digital footprint since the guy had nothing else going on his life, we won't see it.  Not in the near future anyways.  Mass shooter stuff gets released pretty quick these days.  But I would think, this close to an election with so many appearances pending for both candidates---we won't see shit.  For the simple reason they don't want anybody reading it/hearing it and think, "Hey, that's how I feel about it too!"  And they run to check the campaign stops for one candidate or the other.  Plus if there are red flags, and certainly would be, it makes the FBI and USSS look real bad at a time neither is a media darling.  Never mind the NRA getting publicly pantsed.  

I'm all for a bigger technology budget for the USSS for any major party candidate or incumbent.  Shit like this compromises our posture abroad, so it's worth every penny. 

What technology won't solve for is their brilliant idea of, "He's been shot in the ear!  Let's hold him up and then get out of the way of his head and vital organs for a few seconds, then dick around looking for his shoes before we take evasive action.  There's not an app or scope for that kind of stupidity.  

[cactusflinthead 26989]

56 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

According to Reuters, as of 8:30PM CST, this dumbase did register to vote as a Republican, and did contribute to the gotv organization. His father did purchase the AR 556 long gun he used.His hs counselor did not know him to be political, and claimed the shooter was not the subject of bullying. Everyone quoted in the article expressed surprise by his actions:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/heres-what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-suspected-trump-rally-shooter-2024-07-14/

There are two Thomas Crooks in PA. At least two anyway. One is 69 and gave money to Act Blue. The other is the shooter and registered as a Republican.

 

[FartingMonk 3604]

I think he expected to be caught and not get as far as he got.  He didn't expect to get a blow hole.  

[C-Man 26617]

16 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

So have Republicans started calling them lady agents yet?

DEI hires, yes

[Willfully Horn 7854]

Just now, cactusflinthead said:

There are two Thomas Crooks in PA. At least two anyway. One is 69 and gave money to Act Blue. The other is the shooter and registered as a Republican.

 

I saw that. Reuters got it wrong, or they got it right. I was posting the latest Reuters report, which, for me, carries weight. 

[Helobious 9408]

Just now, Willfully Horn said:

I saw that. Reuters got it wrong, or they got it right. I was posting the latest Reuters report, which, for me, carries weight. 

I’ve seen a few interviews with former classmates. The only common thread is that he was a loner that came to school in hunting attire frequently. Some have said he had conservative beliefs, that he was bullied, that he “tried out” for ROTC rifle team (at my school anyone in ROTC could be on rifle team, you just had to be good to go to the actual competitions). To me it just sounds like people that didn’t really know him acting like they did. 

[Gil Bang 25551]

1 minute ago, Buzzrock said:

Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics claims to have a source within SS, and there’s some disturbing stuff in her reports 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The reporter on MSNBC earlier who has a good relationship with the SS: 

agents said the need more technology

what happened yesterday was worst nightmare come true

Not Enough SS and counter snipers to cover everyone and every event they have to cover so LE picks up slack in different places. Sometimes LE is understaffed. There is a lot of attrition as many SS are retiring. They are spread thin.

they have many people in DC they must guard and counter sniper for and with the rallies by both candidates and Harris and also the conventions agents spread thin and are exhausted, 

none of this explains ladder boy on the one building with great sight lines to Trump. 
 

just paraphrasing the whole interview on MSNBC but that is what the reporter said, 

 

The job sounds like a beating.  

A few years back, there was a piece in Vanity Fair, IIRC.   So, the Obamas bought a home in D.C., and Jared and Ivanka moved in down the block.   

Well, the Obamas are nice and decent people, and Jared and Ivanka are shitheads.    Obama's house had a really big garage, which he didn't need, so, at his own expense, he built a "lounge" for his secret service detail.  A kitchen/break room, and a bathroom with a shower.   

Meanwhile, Ivanka and Jared, being fucking cunts, didn't allow their SS detail inside of their home.  So, the J/I detail went down the block to the Obama house, everytime they needed a cup of coffee or to take a dump.   Well, one of the J/I guys absolutely wrecked the shitter in the Obama garage one day, and left a big mess.  The Obama SS lead said "fuck y'all, don't ever come back here ever" and the two details almost came to blows.

What kind of job doesn't allow you a nearby bathroom, and what kind of horrible person doesn't give their bodyguard access to a bathroom?

[HOOKEM4 4914]

13 hours ago, aggie08 said:

The robotic dogs were just sitting there not doing shit???

Where the fuck was the paw patrol?

[YGIFS 19445]

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Where the fuck was the paw patrol?

Doing dumb shit for Ryder.  

"There's a situation at the Trump Rally, get there on the Double!" 

Ryder, "Chase-go sniff metal things to see if they're a ladder.   Zuma, go underwater in a place with no lakes!.  Rubble, go build something useless!  Skye, you could do aerial surveillance of the area in your helicopter, or just fly into a tornado!  Rocky, go recycle those shell casings!  Marshall, after Trump is done posing for photographs, make sure he gets immediate medical attention!"  

Well, you get the idea.  I hate those fuckers  My oldest got so into them, we still have boxes and boxes of their vehicles and different versions of the pups and it's baby-ish for her now.  But she won't let us donate them out of nostalgia.  So I'm going to send them to North Korea to be eaten.  

This guy had to have posted some shit online of some value that was saved on a message board of social media screen-shot, but it's being scrubbed as we speak.  Nobody wants to leak it either because it makes it look like GOP-on-GOP civil war, and they don't want to be threatened or harmed.  

[Hank Kingsley 19998]

Can't shoot up a school in the summer. Trump coming into town was probably too convenient to pass up.