Donald Trump Assassination Attempt

[Dahobbs 17451]

4 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Bad shit happens to all people all the time. Is the rhetoric terrible?  Yes. Yeah it is. I would not be surprised with a civil war. Am I comparing republicans to Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor?  Looney Toons. 

Again, you're not the one being threatened. It isn't bad shit happening. It is bad shit he and his ilk are causing. He says it is an invasion at the border. His followers hear that and arm themselves to stop that invasion, shooting the "vermin" and invaders in El Paso. Transgenders and gays are subhuman, groomers, and pedophiles, so his followers shoot at them in clubs. And maybe it isn't just his followers, but other folks that hear those words repeated over and over and internalize them. You may not be concerned about the threats. You may feel safe. Others hear "we're going to kill them" and take that threat literally. 

Edited July 17 by Dahobbs

[Captainant 27479]

2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Am I comparing republicans to Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor?  Looney Toons. 

Republicans literally attacked the Republic on January 6th with the intent to override the will of the people. They are the aggressors in this rapidly escalating civil unrest. 

For fucks sake, it was a REPUBLICAN who had been targeted for progun propaganda by the trump campaign that shot at trump. 

[Brisketexan 104687]

You’ve absolutely lost all your marbles. 

Were they on the marble shelf at the El Paso Wal-Mart, where a man inspired by rhetoric about evil invaders slaughtered 2 dozen brown people? That would explain how they got lost. Lotta confusion and chaos there.
Wait…maybe my marbles were on the toy aisle at the Buffalo grocery where a dude killed 10 black people to “prevent the elimination of the white race.” That must be it. No, wait…
Maybe they were in the kids play area a the Tree of Life synagogue, where a fuckhead killed 11 Jews because they were facilitating a “genocide” against white people!
Dammit…or maybe my marbles were just there in the Capitol gift shop, and they got misplaced by all those wandering tourists, who just HAPPENED to be chanting “hang Pence,” and were asked where to find that bitch Pelosi.

I’ve heard an actual cop fantasize about going to the border to shoot wetbacks.

Some old conservative peers on social media post shit like “we understand terms like MOA, you use terms like DEI; we are not the same.” “MOA” means “minute of angle,” by the way - it’s a reference to a rifle’s accuracy.

I can keep doing this. All fucking day. The right is an open and proud stochastic terrorist movement that has already yielded definitive and bloody results, and is currently led by a man who promises “revenge” and “retaliation.” His words, those quotation marks are for real.

But I’m the one who has lost my marbles for suggesting that maybe the rest of us should be fully prepared to fight back against more of what has already happened. No. No marbles lost. I’m just not suicidally stupid - I know that the MAGAs are counting on the rest of us to just fold and cower before them, but the hell of it is, we’re Americans too. And cowering and folding isn’t our nature. FAFO.

[Gil Bang 25901]

29 minutes ago, immamac said:

I called my dad a racist piece of shit today. So yeah I do talk mostly how I post. 

You're a fucking 2%er for sure

[Rex Kramer 1302]

5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, they’re worse. Japan attacked an enemy state. Trumpers will be more akin to the Nazis rounding up fellow citizens into ghettos and concentration camps.

For fuck’s sake. Grab your balls dude. 

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Again, you're not the one being threatened. It isn't bad shit happening. It is bad shit he and his ilk are causing. He says it is an invasion at the border. His followers hear that and arm themselves to stop that invasion, shooting the "vermin" and invaders in El Paso. Transgenders and gays are subhuman, groomers, and pedophiles, so his followers shoot at them in clubs. And maybe it isn't just his followers, but other folks that hear those words repeated over and over and internalize them. You may not be concerned about the threats. You may feel safe. Others head "we're going to kill them" and take that threat literally. 

Is Brisket a Mexican migrant, gay or trans?

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Were they on the marble shelf at the El Paso Wal-Mart, where a man inspired by rhetoric about evil invaders slaughtered 2 dozen brown people? That would explain how they got lost. Lotta confusion and chaos there.
Wait…maybe my marbles were on the toy aisle at the Buffalo grocery where a dude killed 10 black people to “prevent the elimination of the white race.” That must be it. No, wait…
Maybe they were in the kids play area a the Tree of Life synagogue, where a fuckhead killed 11 Jews because they were facilitating a “genocide” against white people!
Dammit…or maybe my marbles were just there in the Capitol gift shop, and they got misplaced by all those wandering tourists, who just HAPPENED to be chanting “hang Pence,” and were asked where to find that bitch Pelosi.

I’ve heard an actual cop fantasize about going to the border to shoot wetbacks.

Some old conservative peers on social media post shit like “we understand terms like MOA, you use terms like DEI; we are not the same.” “MOA” means “minute of angle,” by the way - it’s a reference to a rifle’s accuracy.

I can keep doing this. All fucking day. The right is an open and proud stochastic terrorist movement that has already yielded definitive and bloody results, and is currently led by a man who promises “revenge” and “retaliation.” His words, those quotation marks are for real.

But I’m the one who has lost my marbles for suggesting that maybe the rest of us should be fully prepared to fight back against more of what has already happened. No. No marbles lost. I’m just not suicidally stupid - I know that the MAGAs are counting on the rest of us to just fold and cower before them, but the hell of it is, we’re Americans too. And cowering and folding isn’t our nature. FAFO.

Sorry that happened. 

Edited July 17 by Rex Kramer

[Rex Kramer 1302]

3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Republicans literally attacked the Republic on January 6th with the intent to override the will of the people. They are the aggressors in this rapidly escalating civil unrest. 

For fucks sake, it was a REPUBLICAN who had been targeted for progun propaganda by the trump campaign that shot at trump. 

Totally agreed. Did they launch an aerial attack that killed 3,000 of our awakening soldiers in one of the worst military disasters in our history?  

[Dahobbs 17451]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

Is Brisket a Mexican migrant, gay or trans?

Oh, I guess just fuck those people right? No reason for them to be concerned or fight back? 

Did you think everyone in that Walmart was an illegal immigrant? Did you not realize they weren't being that discriminate in their attacks? 

[fattyflattie 4636]

Just now, Rex Kramer said:

Totally agreed. Did they launch an aerial attack that killed 3,000 of our awakening soldiers in one of the worst military disasters in our history?  

Way worse man. Almost ended our democracy. 

[Dahobbs 17451]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

Totally agreed. Did they launch an aerial attack that killed 3,000 of our awakening soldiers in one of the worst military disasters in our history?  

Worse. The Republic was never in danger from Japan. It didn't have the power to take it out. The insurrectionists on January 6th aimed for its heart. The patient has been on life support since. But they have more than shown that they have the power to take it out. 

[Anastasis 23399]

23 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Are you obsessed with everything being an indictment on the military industrial complex in real life? 

Obsessed? No. But not shy about pointing out the obvious when it comes to foreign policy. 

[Gil Bang 25901]

2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Oh, I guess just fuck those people right? No reason for them to be concerned or fight back? 

Did you think everyone in that Walmart was an illegal immigrant? Did you not realize they weren't being that discriminate in their attacks? 

When my kid was at Ft. Bliss, he and my DIL hit that  very Walmart almost weekly.   I've been in it myself.  

[Dahobbs 17451]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Obsessed? No. But not shy about pointing out the obvious when it comes to foreign policy. 

And Brisket isn't shy about pointing out the obvious either. 

[Anastasis 23399]

19 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

You have to remember, he isnt as "white" as you.

Brisket is objectively and literally one of the whitest people on the face of the earth.

[David Dennison 18662]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Obsessed? No. But not shy about pointing out the obvious when it comes to foreign policy. 

[Dahobbs 17451]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Brisket is objectively and literally one of the whitest people on the face of the earth.

And you're objectively and literally the dumbest smart guy on the face of the earth. 

Edited July 17 by Dahobbs

[Rex Kramer 1302]

2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Oh, I guess just fuck those people right? No reason for them to be concerned or fight back? 

Did you think everyone in that Walmart was an illegal immigrant? Did you not realize they weren't being that discriminate in their attacks? 

No, not fuck those people. You provided 3 examples of disenfranchised groups and I’m wondering how Brisket is grouped. 

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Way worse man. Almost ended our democracy. 

Insanity. One of them killed thousands of soldiers and engaged us in the horrific Pacific Theatre for 3.5 years. The other, had it been “successful”, would’ve been over by the end of the business day. In fact had it been more successful, Trump might be in jail right now. 

[Surly Bevo 24698]

One thing that struck me as a bit funny in a quiet moment today.

"There's no place for political violence"

In a country born out of political violence.

Do I want political violence, think we need to go there, think it is going to be good for this society?  Fuck no

BUT

 

[Rex Kramer 1302]

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Worse. The Republic was never in danger from Japan. It didn't have the power to take it out. The insurrectionists on January 6th aimed for its heart. The patient has been on life support since. But they have more than shown that they have the power to take it out. 

No. There’s a complete lack of logic and perspective in this forum. 

[Anastasis 23399]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

And you're objectively and literally the dumbest smart guy on the face of the earth. 

You acted the absolute fool upthread. Total clown shit. 

[Gil Bang 25901]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Brisket is objectively and literally one of the whitest people on the face of the earth.

Oh fuck you. I'm not claiming that gizzard-eating redneck motherfucker as a part of my racial group.   

[Anastasis 23399]

Just now, Rex Kramer said:

No. There’s a complete lack of logic and perspective in this forum. 

It's amazing actually, total disconnect from reality.  

[fattyflattie 4636]

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Brisket is objectively and literally one of the whitest people on the face of the earth.

Well, depends on what story he wants to sell you at that moment.  

[Rex Kramer 1302]

1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

One thing that struck me as a bit funny in a quiet moment today.

"There's no place for political violence"

In a country born out of political violence.

Do I want political violence, think we need to go there, think it is going to be good for this society?  Fuck no

BUT

 

There absolutely is a place for it in this country as shown Saturday. Apparently you cannot express it here and I won’t. My thoughts may surprise some here. 

[SizzleChest 8275]

13 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Obsessed? No. But not shy about pointing out the obvious when it comes to foreign policy. 

You just do it so often, repeatedly in fact, and in the most self-aggrandizing way that it just seems like it.

[Updawg 2261]

And you're objectively and literally the dumbest smart guy on the face of the earth. 

Don’t engage dr beeper

[seven 1366]

My parents and grandparents aren't racist pieces of shit so I feel like I'm missing out. 

[David Dennison 18662]

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

It's amazing actually, total disconnect from reality.  

To be fair, you don't much like reality. And that's OK.

[Da Fino 2741]

41 minutes ago, Indomitable said:

SIAP
 

 

The most surprising admission to me was that they didnt have the roof secured where the shooter was because it was deemed a safety issue with the sloped roof. They actually had local cops inside the building below. Here’s the sloped roof  

 

 

Shocking levels of incompetence  

 

I think that might be selective revisionism. In this situation, iirc, secret service is in charge of near and far safety. Near, being the guys that all jumped on him to protect him, and far being counter sniper teams. I’m sure I’ll be corrected here, but I think local police are in charge of everything in between. Which would explain that sniper on the roof popping his head up when he saw a muzzle blast and then repositioning to try to make a shot. They might have been focused much further out and didn’t expect to have to cover 150yds out. 

[Updawg 2261]

Insanity. One of them killed thousands of soldiers and engaged us in the horrific Pacific Theatre for 3.5 years. The other, had it been “successful”, would’ve been over by the end of the business day. In fact had it been more successful, Trump might be in jail right now. 

So he should be in jail either way?

[Brisketexan 104687]

I’m not a “migrant.” Neither were most of the people killed in El Paso. Being migrant-ish in an area where there are lots of brown people is enough for the MAGA terrorists. I was just in El Paso. I frequented numerous places full of similarly situated “targets.” Ana is right…I look pretty white. But I spend a good chunk of time in places and among people who aren’t, because at the end of the day, I’m half messican. Maybe the shooter woulda waved me in, saying “you look white enough to live.” I dunno.

I’m not gay. But close friends and family members are. I give a shit about them, and am pissed that they are in the crosshairs of violence.

I’m not trans. But I work with and am friend with people who are, or who have trans family members. Same thing, I give a shit about them.

I’m not Jewish, but my wife’s family of choice is, and have very close friends who are. Shit, one of my son’s lifelong friends is downstairs right now; he’s so damned Jewish he can’t even eat 90% of the stuff in our house. I give a shit about him.

Etc etc. Because see, if you’re not a complete garbage human being, you care about other human beings. You don’t see someone gunning down brown people, look at your white skin, and think “whew! I’m good, got nothing to worry about!” “Wait, he’s shooting Jews now? Lucky for me I’m not Jewish. Now, let’s go get some snacks.”

And the Pearl Harbor reference was a fucking metaphor - you don’t sit back while an enemy relentlessly attacks you, and just hope “well, maybe they won’t keep shooting like they are right now.” You fucking shoot back.

MAGA has a hard-on for violence, they love to flaunt its tools and use its rhetoric. And when others say “huh…so if that’s how it’s gonna be, then we’ll be ready,” they freak out and say “YOU’RE UNHINGED! POLITICAL VIOLENCE!” No, fuckers. Just self defense.

[Anastasis 23399]

 

4 minutes ago, seven said:

My parents and grandparents aren't racist pieces of shit so I feel like I'm missing out. 

 

It changes the game when you come to the realization that much of the lashing out in the CR over the last 7 or so years is self loathing and projection of posters' interpersonal family relationships. 

[mchookem 16237]

33 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, they’re worse. Japan attacked an enemy state. Trumpers will be more akin to the Nazis rounding up fellow citizens into ghettos and concentration camps.

#Project2025

[Brisketexan 104687]

There absolutely is a place for it in this country as shown Saturday. Apparently you cannot express it here and I won’t. My thoughts may surprise some here. 

Wait….”as shown Saturday.” FASCINATING that “political violence” just got your hackles up on….Saturday. And not after El Paso. Or Charlottesville. Or Buffalo. Or January 6. Or Pittsburgh.
Your timeline of grave concern tells us a shitload about you.

[Dahobbs 17451]

17 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

You acted the absolute fool upthread. Total clown shit. 

We can't all be you and do it 24/7. 

[Incredulity 11563]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

 

 

It changes the game when you come to the realization that much of the lashing out in the CR over the last 7 or so years is self loathing and projection of posters' interpersonal family relationships. 

[Dahobbs 17451]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

 

It changes the game when you come to the realization that much of the lashing out in the CR over the last 7 or so years is self loathing and projection of posters' interpersonal family relationships. 

So, I guess you were pushing pills in gitmo? It is amazing how you can ignore everything going on around you except your one specific pet project. 

Edited July 17 by Dahobbs

[David Dennison 18662]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

It changes the game when you come to the realization that much of the lashing out in the CR over the last 7 or so years is self loathing and projection of posters' interpersonal family relationships. 

[Gil Bang 25901]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I’m not a “migrant.” Neither were most of the people killed in El Paso. Being migrant-ish in an area where there are lots of brown people is enough for the MAGA terrorists. I was just in El Paso. I frequented numerous places full of similarly situated “targets.” Ana is right…I look pretty white. But I spend a good chunk of time in places and among people who aren’t, because at the end of the day, I’m half messican. Maybe the shooter woulda waved me in, saying “you look white enough to live.” I dunno.

I’m not gay. But close friends and family members are. I give a shit about them, and am pissed that they are in the crosshairs of violence.

I’m not trans. But I work with and am friend with people who are, or who have trans family members. Same thing, I give a shit about them.

I’m not Jewish, but my wife’s family of choice is, and have very close friends who are. Shit, one of my son’s lifelong friends is downstairs right now; he’s so damned Jewish he can’t even eat 90% of the stuff in our house. I give a shit about him.

Etc etc. Because see, if you’re not a complete garbage human being, you care about other human beings. You don’t see someone gunning down brown people, look at your white skin, and think “whew! I’m good, got nothing to worry about!” “Wait, he’s shooting Jews now? Lucky for me I’m not Jewish. Now, let’s go get some snacks.”

And the Pearl Harbor reference was a fucking metaphor - you don’t sit back while an enemy relentlessly attacks you, and just hope “well, maybe they won’t keep shooting like they are right now.” You fucking shoot back.

MAGA has a hard-on for violence, they love to flaunt its tools and use its rhetoric. And when others say “huh…so if that’s how it’s gonna be, then we’ll be ready,” they freak out and say “YOU’RE UNHINGED! POLITICAL VIOLENCE!” No, fuckers. Just self defense.

Y'all will notice that he didn't deny the "gizzard-eating redneck motherfucker" thing

Edited July 17 by Gil Bang

[Anastasis 23399]

2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

So, I guess you were pushing pills in gitmo?

Very normal brained. 

[SizzleChest 8275]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

 

It changes the game when you come to the realization that much of the lashing out in the CR over the last 7 or so years is self loathing and projection of posters' interpersonal family relationships. 

Dunno about anyone else, but I’m reading this as quite the confession.

[fattyflattie 4636]

9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Maybe the shooter woulda waved me in, saying “you look white enough to live.” I dunno.

Well, you oft forget to mention it in your verbose rants, but he killed white people that day as well. So probably not.   That’s sort of the thing with murderous psychopaths.  

[DixonHur 11236]

35 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Totally agreed. Did they launch an aerial attack that killed 3,000 of our awakening soldiers in one of the worst military disasters in our history?  

Are you familiar with the concept of war?

[Anastasis 23399]

3 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

Dunno about anyone else, but I’m reading this as quite the confession.

Did that one strike a little too close to home for you?

[HOOKEM4 5026]

The fascists are sucking each other's dicks tonight evidently. Can yall take it to a bathroom stall somewhere?

[Dahobbs 17451]

4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Well, you oft forget to mention it in your verbose rants, but he killed white people that day as well. So probably not.   That’s sort of the thing with murderous psychopaths.  

... And, in his own words, he was there to fight an "invasion" of brown people. So yeah, white people got caught in the cross fire. But you cant just ignore why he was doing what he was doing. I mean, I know you will, but you shouldn't. 

[SizzleChest 8275]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Did that one strike a little too close to home for you?

Such a pithy response.  Especially in light of the fact my whole family died on a shrimp boat when I was six months old.

[Dahobbs 17451]

9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Very normal brained. 

It's weird how you think using that phrase isn't self incriminating. Anywho, go vote for Trump. I'm totally sure he will not completely abuse the powers your so concerned about all the time. 

Edited July 17 by Dahobbs

[Anastasis 23399]

Just now, SizzleChest said:

Such a pithy response.  Especially in light of the fact my whole family died on a shrimp boat when I was six months old.

 

[Updawg 2261]

Damn. We just stopped in El Paso on the way back from a trip out west. Stayed by the airport not far from that Walmart. Never would have thought that happened there until someone told us.

This country has serious issues

[fattyflattie 4636]

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

... And, in his own words, he was there to fight an "invasion" of brown people. So yeah, white people got caught in the cross fire. But you cant just ignore why he was doing what he was doing. I mean, I know you will, but you shouldn't. 

Yeah, there’s a few crazies mixed in the 330m in the US.   I’m completely surprised, honestly.