Donald Trump Assassination Attempt

[Brisketexan 103,515]

I agree that political violence is unacceptable.  I also believe that political violence from the right is unavoidable now.  I have several acquaintances who are full scale MAGAts who regularly post right wing violence posts on Facebook.  These slowed in the days after the assassination attempt, but never stopped.  They are too far gone in their fantasies to come back now.
If it had been President Biden instead of Trump, we would have already had Boobert, MTG, or Goetz file a bill in Congress to require mandatory marksmanship training in public schools.

Hey, how about this: I DO advocate for violence. When? In self-fucking-defense. When there’s an entire movement out there 1) actively murdering their political enemies (El Paso, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Charlottesville, etc) and they are 2) continuing to talk up how well-armed they are and what they’ll do about it, we would FUCKING INSANELY AND SUICIDALLY STUPID to not shoot back.

Here, this is just one of many such messages those types share (this one posted by an old acquaintance, service academy grad, and now full-on radicalized MAGA nutbar):



All of the enabling assholes who tell us “pshaw, there’s no threat of violence” ARE LYING. Not just “not paying attention,” they are actively lying. MAGA is a full-on stochastic terrorist movement. If they were doing and saying what they have done and said “in the name of Allah,” we’d have launched drone strikes long ago.
Wake. The fuck. UP.

[immamac 41,617]

5 minutes ago, Underdog said:

With all due respect but fuck decorum when trump is involved. 

This is exactly my point. Peoples bloodlust is not receding it's increasing. 

[TeeDubya 3,321]

6 minutes ago, tchookem said:

Maybe he did it to impress Stormy Daniels.

“He missed the side of my head by the distance of my fully erect mushroom.”

[RomaVicta 29,500]

56 minutes ago, troph said:

fuck anyone on the left saying don't miss next time. more violence from the right may be inevitable win, lose or assassination but we should not condone violence, ever.

I'll be tiresome, my friend, and refer again to the paradigm shift in this contest. It's not politics which is usually tied to poiicy debate. 

-Fuck anyone on the left saying don't miss next time.

What would people on the right be saying had the bullet been aimed at the worst president in history who is abusing power to persecute Donald Trump? No, I'm not saying to model our own behavior on their animalistic tendencies. I'm saying that this opponent will happily endorse harmful acts against us because they see this as a war. On us.

-Fuck anyone on the left saying don't miss next time.

Is this as a matter of politeness and not disturbing the ears of the children? Do you use "saying" to recognize that the sentiment of don't miss next time should be kept to oneself? I think there is some validity to that. Murder as a means should never be taken lightly.

If you mean to condemn the thought of wishing the thought you mention, how can one stop that? One can examine it and break it down to its root: is it childish/feral response springing from hate? Is it an option to be considered due to the threat posed to people and institutions?

-We should not condone violence, ever.

I believe this sentiment is too absolute. It's civilized. It should be the goal for any society or culture. I'm serious about that.

However, we cheer violence constantly as Americans. Our mythology is killing the bad guy. It gets us into a lot of immoral killing abroad. It's too much.

Violence against someone who means harm to my fellow citizens, means to seize unprecedented power to punish political opponents, means to keep his voters motivated by fear and hate of anyone who is not white, heterosexual, or, basically, male? Is that thought of violence really to be absolutely not considered? 

There are times for violence applied in cold blood: protecting and defending something or someone important or dear.

I said about a thousand pages ago that I was honestly ambivalent about the outcome of the murder attempt. I wrote that I don't wish assassination on anyone, but that I have a sense of poetic justice. I'm less and less ambivalent. 

We cannot ignore the obvious anymore. We are not facing a philosophical challenge. We are facing an irrational opponent who means us harm and destruction. 

Written with respect.

Edited July 20 by RomaVicta

[C-Man 26,617]

Is he referring to internment camps for Hispanics? If so, fuck this guy, the bullet did this world a favor. No I wouldn’t say that irl but this is surly. Fuck this piece of trash.

No, he was referring to the Japanese “getting over” the US dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[Underdog 28,118]

Fox News?

[Underdog 28,118]

LOL. 

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

27 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is exactly my point. Peoples bloodlust is not receding it's increasing. 

I mean, they did start this one. 

[Underdog 28,118]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I mean, they did start this one. 

 

[tx 3 putt 75,229]

3 hours ago, Red Five said:

Still wearing a huge patch that covers his entire ear a week later, for a wound that didn't require stitches huh.

beta cluck, always has been 

[tx 3 putt 75,229]

2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Jen has a glowed up a lot in the past couple of months.  

And I know she's gay but damn, KJP is all kinds of smooth.  As the song goes, making an old man wish for younger days.  Is that, um, a pearl necklace she's wearing? 

best gf / sex I’ve ever had was a freshly divorced lesbian wanting to make her ex mad / jealous 

never give up hope 😂😂😂

 

Edited July 20 by tx 3 putt

[Brisketexan 103,515]

best gf / sex I’ve had was a freshly divorced lesbian wanting to make her ex mad / jealous 
never give up hope
 

You had gluten-free sex? Meh.

[Scheiss Meister 8,308]

1 hour ago, troph said:

I've got a former friend turned maga gun nut, he was already a gun nut, and he and his tactical buddies are preparing for the Venezuelan sleeper cells that are emerging with violence around the election. He's deeply worried a civil war that he is going to start and he's preparing for it.

 

[Scheiss Meister 8,308]

55 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Hey, how about this: I DO advocate for violence. When? In self-fucking-defense. When there’s an entire movement out there 1) actively murdering their political enemies (El Paso, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Charlottesville, etc) and they are 2) continuing to talk up how well-armed they are and what they’ll do about it, we would FUCKING INSANELY AND SUICIDALLY STUPID to not shoot back.

Here, this is just one of many such messages those types share (this one posted by an old acquaintance, service academy grad, and now full-on radicalized MAGA nutbar):



All of the enabling assholes who tell us “pshaw, there’s no threat of violence” ARE LYING. Not just “not paying attention,” they are actively lying. MAGA is a full-on stochastic terrorist movement. If they were doing and saying what they have done and said “in the name of Allah,” we’d have launched drone strikes long ago.
Wake. The fuck. UP.

Oh, what I wrote doesn't mean that I'm not practicing and accumulating necessary supplies.  If someone starts I mean to finish, but I'm not going to start.

[troph 23,995]

11 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

best gf / sex I’ve ever had was a freshly divorced lesbian wanting to make her ex mad / jealous 

never give up hope 😂😂😂

 

works both ways bro. only problem is you had no expectation of a relationship, lezzies wanna uhaul that straight woman right after the cuddle time starts.

[Brian Fantana 6,615]

1 hour ago, troph said:

god forbid we have some decorum around here.

Fuck decorum. I would have pissed myself laughing if the kid had hit his target.

[Bullneck 18,691]

1 hour ago, troph said:

I think we stop short of advocating violence. I want the guy to drop dead of a heart attack yesterday, I think he's a total fascist piece of shit, but I do not condone violence or threats of violence on anyone. Think about it, ordinary good people don't want to run because of threats of violence and actual violence. 

fuck the guy, I could not insult him enough, but no to political violence and threats of it. just no.

decorum =/= political violence

I don't think anyone here is advocating violence, and if they did I'm sure at least a post deletion and time out (if not an outright ban) would happen.

Then again, sometimes we read some obituaries and find them deserved.

[tbone_ 13,977]

The rhetoric around condemning or advocating for political violence based on this incident is total fucking joke.

That kid didn’t shoot at Trump for anything having to do with politics. He was just a typical American dork with a gun (and a 10 inch dick apparently) and instead of shooting up a school or a mall he shot at Trump because he was there.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11,728]

5 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

The rhetoric around condemning or advocating for political violence based on this incident is total fucking joke.

That kid didn’t shoot at Trump for anything having to do with politics. He was just a typical American dork with a gun (and a 10 inch dick apparently) and instead of shooting up a school or a mall he shot at Trump because he was there.

And that my friends is what you should find scary.  He shot at him because he was there.  We are all “there” at some point.   

[yoladu 4,044]

13 hours ago, Bullneck said:

 

Mr. Comperatore's death was tragic and senseless,  but the need to lionize him by political actors is unfortunate.

He wasn't "shielding his family from gunfire" - he was merely standing, watching the rally, and unfortunately was just in the way. it was over in an instant.

i could be charitable and say that those claiming he was, is some sort of an genuine attempt to make the loss of his life not seem random and pointless, but that is not what happened.

Edited July 20 by yoladu

[Underdog 28,118]

11 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

decorum =/= political violence

I don't think anyone here is advocating violence, and if they did I'm sure at least a post deletion and time out (if not an outright ban) would happen.

Then again, sometimes we read some obituaries and find them deserved.

Too soon, bro. 

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

5 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

And that my friends is what you should find scary.  He shot at him because he was there.  We are all “there” at some point.   

Again, apologies, as I’m just catching up, but was it really just random mental illness stuff and he didn’t have a political agenda?

[Underdog 28,118]

IMO, he was just pissed he didn't make the HS Rifle Team and set out to prove them wrong. I'm sure that was going through his brain... before the sniper bullet, of course. 

[tbone_ 13,977]

And that my friends is what you should find scary.  He shot at him because he was there.  We are all “there” at some point.   

Well no shit.

He had the same disease that affects way too many Americans - the I’m a complete loser dipshit with a gun so jm gonna go shoot shit up disease.

And yes, schools, churches, Walmarts, dennys, parades, marathons, concerts, clubs, etc etc etc. We’re all “there” all of the time.

But by all means, let’s don’t work on curbing that disease. Let’s just make it political instead.

Outstanding job as a species. Really well done.

Again, apologies, as I’m just catching up, but was it really just random mental illness stuff and he didn’t have a political agenda?

Zero evidence. Registered Republican. Last internet search was for porn.

[mchookem 15,535]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Again, apologies, as I’m just catching up, but was it really just random mental illness stuff and he didn’t have a political agenda?

he made a $15 donation to ActBlue when he was 17. then selected republican when he registered to vote. his classmates and teacher remember him as being 'very conservative' and he was bullied quite a bit. his family had enough gun 'markers' that they were in the Trump campaign's database for targeted messaging re: 'gun rights' for this election. his recent internet searches included both Biden and Trump's public appearance schedules and apparently stepmoms stuck in dryers.

yeah... seems like he was this country's average run of the mill angry young white man mental case with unfettered access to whatever firearm he wanted. booyah.

 

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

6 minutes ago, mchookem said:

he made a $15 donation to ActBlue when he was 17. then selected republican when he registered to vote. his classmates and teacher remember him as being 'very conservative' and he was bullied quite a bit. his family had enough gun 'markers' that they were in the Trump campaign's database for targeted messaging re: 'gun rights' for this election. his recent internet searches included both Biden and Trump's public appearance schedules and apparently stepmoms stuck in dryers.

yeah... seems like he was this country's average run of the mill angry young white man mental case with unfettered access to whatever firearm he wanted. booyah.

 

I’m sure the Rs have painted him as a radical leftist though?

[Horndog 2,149]

21 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

 

The asshole probably googled "happy endings".

[MissingInAction 24,324]

41 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

And that my friends is what you should find scary.  He shot at him because he was there.  We are all “there” at some point.   

Yep. That's why I stay near fatties at public events. They make for great cover.

[tx 3 putt 75,229]

32 minutes ago, Underdog said:

IMO, he was just pissed he didn't make the HS Rifle Team and set out to prove them wrong. I'm sure that was going through his brain... before the sniper bullet, of course. 

maybe he was pisse about the epidemic of hot MILF’s and step sisters getting stuck in appliances (in their skimpy panties !!!) and their step sons having to walk in on them to see it ???????

 

 

[chainsaw 9,573]

14 minutes ago, mchookem said:

a $15 donation to ActBlue when he was 17.

There has been some deeper research into how this happened, it has to do with emails spammed to a list cultivated by Mothership Strategies

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/trumps-shooter-gave-15-to-a-progressive

Crooks may have been baited into making the donation by a spam "poll" like this

 

All you need to know:

Quote

In short, it’s one of those spammy PACs that carpet bombs your inbox, delivering emails with splashy colors and wild fonts and using every trick in the book to convince people to give small amounts of money.

Crooks’s donation, the PAC told Drop Site in a statement, “came in response to an email about tuning into the inauguration.” In other words, the mere fact of his having given to this PAC on this day, based on that kind of an email, tells us very little about his politics.

 

[Underdog 28,118]

Reminds me, I need to clear out my search history more often just in case. 

9 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Yep. That's why I stay near fatties at public events. They make for great cover.

Fatties?  The poster or us obese fucks? 

[tx 3 putt 75,229]

5 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

There has been some deeper research into how this happened, it has to do with emails spammed to a list cultivated by Mothership Strategies

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/trumps-shooter-gave-15-to-a-progressive

Crooks may have been baited into making the donation by a spam "poll" like this

 

All you need to know:

 

seems odd 

Edited July 20 by tx 3 putt

[WhatTheBuck 28,604]

26 minutes ago, Horndog said:

The asshole probably googled "happy endings".

[troph 23,995]

2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I'll be tiresome, my friend, and refer again to the paradigm shift in this contest. It's not politics which is usually tied to poiicy debate. 

-Fuck anyone on the left saying don't miss next time.

What would people on the right be saying had the bullet been aimed at the worst president in history who is abusing power to persecute Donald Trump? No, I'm not saying to model our own behavior on their animalistic tendencies. I'm saying that this opponent will happily endorse harmful acts against us because they see this as a war. On us.

-Fuck anyone on the left saying don't miss next time.

Is this as a matter of politeness and not disturbing the ears of the children? Do you use "saying" to recognize that the sentiment of don't miss next time should be kept to oneself? I think there is some validity to that. Murder as a means should never be taken lightly.

If you mean to condemn the thought of wishing the thought you mention, how can one stop that? One can examine it and break it down to its root: is it childish/feral response springing from hate? Is it an option to be considered due to the threat posed to people and institutions?

-We should not condone violence, ever.

I believe this sentiment is too absolute. It's civilized. It should be the goal for any society or culture. I'm serious about that.

However, we cheer violence constantly as Americans. Our mythology is killing the bad guy. It gets us into a lot of immoral killing abroad. It's too much.

Violence against someone who means harm to my fellow citizens, means to seize unprecedented power to punish political opponents, means to keep his voters motivated by fear and hate of anyone who is not white, heterosexual, or, basically, male? Is that thought of violence really to be absolutely not considered? 

There are times for violence applied in cold blood: protecting and defending something or someone important or dear.

I said about a thousand pages ago that I was honestly ambivalent about the outcome of the murder attempt. I wrote that I don't wish assassination on anyone, but that I have a sense of poetic justice. I'm less and less ambivalent. 

We cannot ignore the obvious anymore. We are not facing a philosophical challenge. We are facing an irrational opponent who means us harm and destruction. 

Written with respect.

I'm ambivalent about him surviving too, but my values and the values of the people I admire and respect and the values I want to see in my family, my sons, and our world are antithetical to promoting and advocating for violence. When I get to the end of my line and my loved ones are close to me, I want them to think kindness and compassion won the day along with grit, perseverance and passion for being the very best version of you you can be.

So I can't advocate violence against anyone and achieve that - and fuck any piece of shit fascist that's going to take that away from me, they already are going to take everything else from me if they can. I can, should and will control what I can control.

I struggle all the time to live my values of kindness and compassion, so this is not a look at me, even typing this I'm like shit I haven't done so good lately. But I know - sometimes on a daily basis - what it's like to be subjected to abject hate. To be direct, some hate I experience directly is here (I never ignored people on message boards until I transitioned now I have over a dozen on ignore because of hate) and most of it is out there in "real life" from people spouting absolutely vile things out their mouth about my kind of people.

To be clear though, I'm a gun owner and I have two firearms with ammunition that will blow holes right through a mother fucker that breaks into my home and threatens my life or the lives of my family. If I truly feel like my life or theirs is threatened and at risk I will shoot the perp without remorse (but with fear for my life), but that is NOT violence and I certainly don't advocate for that set of circumstances.

So fuck Trump in his goat ass. I can type for days about all the things I think about him, but advocating for his murder from a rando kid or from a political assassin just isn't something I can get behind. I can't get behind advocating for violence against the schmucks who are duped by him either. I think the insurrectionists belong in jail, Trump in jail, and I think LE should crack down on extremism but I'm not going to take up arms or advocate for the taking up of arms against others absent the need to defend oneself. I'm just not.

 

Edited July 20 by troph

[Rex Kramer 1,234]

1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Fuck decorum. I would have pissed myself laughing if the kid had hit his target.

Whoa. Worlds have collided. Though my chuckle would’ve been replaced pretty quickly by immense relief and then dread that….

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

The rhetoric around condemning or advocating for political violence based on this incident is total fucking joke.

That kid didn’t shoot at Trump for anything having to do with politics. He was just a typical American dork with a gun (and a 10 inch dick apparently) and instead of shooting up a school or a mall he shot at Trump because he was there.

….we would’ve headed to civil war pretty quickly after a Trump death. Regardless of his motive and likely mental illness. 

1 hour ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

And that my friends is what you should find scary.  He shot at him because he was there.  We are all “there” at some point.   

No it isn’t. Trump was there. He wouldn’t have killed any poster here, unless we were killed inadvertently. this is why I tell my kids to avoid rallies and protests, always. 

[Satchel 6,901]

Guns Uber alles.

[RomaVicta 29,500]

58 minutes ago, troph said:

I'm ambivalent about him surviving too, but my values and the values of the people I admire and respect and the values I want to see in my family, my sons, and our world are antithetical to promoting and advocating for violence. When I get to the end of my line and my loved ones are close to me, I want them to think kindness and compassion won the day along with grit, perseverance and passion for being the very best version of you you can be.

So I can't advocate violence against anyone and achieve that - and fuck any piece of shit fascist that's going to take that away from me, they already are going to take everything else from me if they can. I can, should and will control what I can control.

I struggle all the time to live my values of kindness and compassion, so this is not a look at me, even typing this I'm like shit I haven't done so good lately. But I know - sometimes on a daily basis - what it's like to be subjected to abject hate. To be direct, some hate I experience directly is here (I never ignored people on message boards until I transitioned now I have over a dozen on ignore because of hate) and most of it is out there in "real life" from people spouting absolutely vile things out their mouth about my kind of people.

To be clear though, I'm a gun owner and I have two firearms with ammunition that will blow holes right through a mother fucker that breaks into my home and threatens my life or the lives of my family. If I truly feel like my life or theirs is threatened and at risk I will shoot the perp without remorse (but with fear for my life), but that is NOT violence and I certainly don't advocate for that set of circumstances.

So fuck Trump in his goat ass. I can type for days about all the things I think about him, but advocating for his murder from a rando kid or from a political assassin just isn't something I can get behind. I can't get behind advocating for violence against the schmucks who are duped by him either. I think the insurrectionists belong in jail, Trump in jail, and I think LE should crack down on extremism but I'm not going to take up arms or advocate for the taking up of arms against others absent the need to defend oneself. I'm just not.

 

We're of like mind and philosophy. I'm not a violent person, and I've been immune from bullying because I've always been big.

The values you list and try to live by are aligned with me. I just feel that the intrudor is already in the door. All of this will come down to widespread violence or tame submission. Some options seem far better than that.

Thanks for the response.

[Nicole44 21,954]

1 hour ago, troph said:

I'm ambivalent about him surviving too, but my values and the values of the people I admire and respect and the values I want to see in my family, my sons, and our world are antithetical to promoting and advocating for violence. When I get to the end of my line and my loved ones are close to me, I want them to think kindness and compassion won the day along with grit, perseverance and passion for being the very best version of you you can be.

So I can't advocate violence against anyone and achieve that - and fuck any piece of shit fascist that's going to take that away from me, they already are going to take everything else from me if they can. I can, should and will control what I can control.

I struggle all the time to live my values of kindness and compassion, so this is not a look at me, even typing this I'm like shit I haven't done so good lately. But I know - sometimes on a daily basis - what it's like to be subjected to abject hate. To be direct, some hate I experience directly is here (I never ignored people on message boards until I transitioned now I have over a dozen on ignore because of hate) and most of it is out there in "real life" from people spouting absolutely vile things out their mouth about my kind of people.

To be clear though, I'm a gun owner and I have two firearms with ammunition that will blow holes right through a mother fucker that breaks into my home and threatens my life or the lives of my family. If I truly feel like my life or theirs is threatened and at risk I will shoot the perp without remorse (but with fear for my life), but that is NOT violence and I certainly don't advocate for that set of circumstances.

So fuck Trump in his goat ass. I can type for days about all the things I think about him, but advocating for his murder from a rando kid or from a political assassin just isn't something I can get behind. I can't get behind advocating for violence against the schmucks who are duped by him either. I think the insurrectionists belong in jail, Trump in jail, and I think LE should crack down on extremism but I'm not going to take up arms or advocate for the taking up of arms against others absent the need to defend oneself. I'm just not.

 

Perfect post. The older I get the more precious I realize life is. In 2 1/2 years I’ve had three funerals of family. Thank you for posting that. 

[tx 3 putt 75,229]

Fake medical report, from a fake doctor, for a fake incident  …..

 

[Gil Bang 25,551]

4 hours ago, troph said:

I mean rule number one you learn as a lesbian... don't chase the straight gals, and certainly don't trust the bi women either, they always leave you for a guy.

sorry for partying

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

sorry for partying

Username checks

[Gil Bang 25,551]

20 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Fake medical report, from a fake doctor, for a fake incident  …..

 

"he also sometimes has a swelling in his groin area, and I provide relief for that as well"

[tx 3 putt 75,229]

1 minute ago, Gil Bang said:

"he also sometimes has a swelling in his groin area, and I provide relief for that as well"

He’d have to fight many posters here for that privilege !

[troph 23,995]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

We're of like mind and philosophy. I'm not a violent person, and I've been immune from bullying because I've always been big.

The values you list and try to live by are aligned with me. I just feel that the intrudor is already in the door. All of this will come down to widespread violence or tame submission. Some options seem far better than that.

Thanks for the response.

I do not advocate for a tame response but I might have to go dark if it gets that bad. Protecting my home and family is one thing, destroying my life by taking on power that is out to get me is just dumb. 

[Satchel 6,901]

Have the media moved on from trying to find out the extent of Trump’s ear injury. There’s a lot we still don’t know.

[MrBig 5,163]

1 minute ago, Satchel said:

Have the media moved on from trying to find out the extent of Trump’s ear injury. There’s a lot we still don’t know.

We are going to see less of Trump’s ear than the Dems saw of Biden before the debate.

[Nicole44 21,954]

5 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Have the media moved on from trying to find out the extent of Trump’s ear injury. There’s a lot we still don’t know.

My understanding is we learn more about a lot of stuff on Monday. In all fairness, I just think he doesn’t want people to know how much he weighs so…that’s maybe the issue. I sincerely hope the hearing on Monday helps to clear up some stuff. 

[Biff Tannen 45,013]

10 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

My understanding is we learn more about a lot of stuff on Monday. In all fairness, I just think he doesn’t want people to know how much he weighs so…that’s maybe the issue. I sincerely hope the hearing on Monday helps to clear up some stuff. 

What hearing?

[Gil Bang 25,551]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

What hearing?

secret service people testifying to congress

[Satchel 6,901]

1 hour ago, MrBig said:

We are going to see less of Trump’s ear than the Dems saw of Biden before the debate.

Why is that? A bullet nicked his ear, or so it seems.