2018 Texas HS Football

[George 493]

Longview gets the onside and a first down. That should do it. 45-42. 

[Kyle 207]

Crazy game. Did not think it would be 45-42 after halftime.

Longview - West Brook at 3 p.m. at the Death Star. I believe they have played in the first round the previous two years.

[BERT 4499]

Last two games have been very unLongview like. Hopefully that doesn’t continue next weekend 

[Treefidy 1507]

6 hours ago, Dewey said:

Been watching North Shore highlights all season, LOADED with talent. Maybe next year for LT.

NS again next year with the talent they are returning.

LT needs to fix their OL and aspects on defense.  

LT would  probably do better next year if they moved card back to receiver, for several reasons.  He's not a good passer under pressure, he's definitely still a take as an athelete, but he's not as good at this point as several QBs before him.  He was a really fucking good WR as a soph, I think he's been a pretty ok QB as a JR. he's regressed as the season wound down and the OL contributed, but he was 6-21 after 3 quarters.  Don't know the final stats but they weren't good.  

[Vic Mackey 48029]

Does anyone have a complete rundown and schedule of the state matchups? 

Really looking forward to Duncanville/North Shore.

[Machinator 32103]

21 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Does anyone have a complete rundown and schedule of the state matchups? 

Really looking forward to Duncanville/North Shore.

 

[Vic Mackey 48029]

Thanks!

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

I don't know shit about beaumont westbrook, but I'm kinda shocked they beat Westlake. I don't follow high school football like I used to (from 04-12), Beaumont never put out a team capable of winning a state championship. Unless I'm just missing someone.

[Longboard Horn 41396]

On 12/12/2018 at 2:27 PM, orange dream said:

Looks like there are two Scott Smiths?

One coached at Plano West for the last 4 years after being at Lake Highlands for several years before that. He went high school in Plano years ago.

The other one coached at Duncanville, Permian, HP and Rockwall and most recently has been coaching at Houston Baptist.  He went to high school at HP years ago.

This the one who is now at the private school in Frisco.

 

Not sure which one is the MF'r that wanted Longboard's brother to kiss his ass but was denied the pleasure.

The first one from Plano West. 

[Longboard Horn 41396]

On 12/12/2018 at 5:06 AM, utfan87 said:

Smith is out at plano west

Why am I now just seeing this? Smith is gone? Seriously good news. My brother will be happy to know that. He'll most likely laugh. 

[Longboard Horn 41396]

6A D1 Championship game will be Duncanville vs North Shore. That'll be a high scoring shootout.

6A D2 championship game will be Longview vs West Brook. Longview ftw! 

[Longboard Horn 41396]

Also, is it just me, or does Lake Travis' coach, Hank Carter, look a lot like Ed Orgeron?

[Bevo 13926]

4 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I don't know shit about beaumont westbrook, but I'm kinda shocked they beat Westlake. I don't follow high school football like I used to (from 04-12), Beaumont never put out a team capable of winning a state championship. Unless I'm just missing someone.

They won a state championship in the 82-83 season. That year, they had Jerry Ball who played NT and RB and went on to star for the Detroit Lions. They also had Gerald Landry who started at QB for UH.

[Laga4 1270]

5 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I don't know shit about beaumont westbrook, but I'm kinda shocked they beat Westlake. I don't follow high school football like I used to (from 04-12), Beaumont never put out a team capable of winning a state championship. Unless I'm just missing someone.

I think Westlake was down their starting QB,  RB,   and Center.  

[Longhorn94 2502]

NS was really good. LT was down on OL and DL this year. Next year should be better. I have seen a lot of really good running backs play against LT (Jonathan Gray, Malcom Brown, Kyle Porter, Deondrick Glass, Perine, the back from Allen, Judson's back, etc) and none are close to Evans. Kid is the best HS running back i have seen in a long time. 

[Ravishing Rick 1236]

Alvin Shadow Creek made the state final in their first year and plays Highland Park. I know Shadow Creek is right next to Manvel (and in the same Alvin isd) but are there any players from last years Manvel team that now play for Shadow Creek?  Last years Manvel vs Hp was perhaps the best game I’ve ever seen. 

[Guest]

I know it ain't changin, but I still think AT&T Stadium as a central site is stupid.  it certainly is for the non- 5A and 6A teams and in those classes gives the DFW teams too much advantage. I like the idea of all fans travelling, not just one team's.

Here's my best guess at where the games would be held in the old set-up.   yes, i am aware that the bigger schools would flip for home field like Texas Stadium and the Astrodome, but I still went neutral site for the big boys. Consider how far JerrahWorld is from some of the truer neutral sites

Duncanville vs GP North Shore *  DKR Memorial

Longview vs West Brook *   Homer Bryce Stadium/SFA

Highland Park vs Shadow Creek *  DKR Memorial

Aledo vs FB Marshall *  DKR Memorial

LaVega vs Liberty Hill *  Temple/ Belton

Pleasant Grove vs Cuero  *  McLane Stadium, Waco

Malakoff vs Grandview  *  Ennis

Canadian vs Newton( 600 miles apart, holy shite!) AT&T Stadium actually works, but Birdville or Newsom at Mansfield would have been more likely.

New Deal vs Mason  *  Shotwell, Abilene

Gruver vs Mart  *  Fair Park, Childress

McLean vs Milford  *  Memorial Stadium, Wichita Falls

Follett vs Strawn  *  Fair Park, Childress

[Ravishing Rick 1236]

Yeah agreed. It’s a big home field advantage to play the championships every year at AT&T. Just look a few years ago when they played at the Texans stadium and mostly Houston teams won. Really unfair to the rest of the state. And I say this as a resident of highland park so we certainly benefit. 

 

UIL probably get more money there so that’s probably your reason. 

[Guest]

That's absolutely why, and i'm not saying it's invalid as a reason.

There's also a value in the kids getting to play at Jerrahworld and I am not discounting that either.

I just like looking at it the way things used to be. There are definitely both pluses and minuses in the equation.

[WBT 20997]

I completely agree.  It's also bullshit that the small schools are playing on Wednesday and Thursday, some of them in the morning.  I wish the coaches would tell Jerry and fox sports sw to fuck off.

[HornsOverIthaca 2339]

Fox sports sw bought the rights to all post season games from UIL.  Kinda lame.

[hpslugga 4097]

1 hour ago, Ravishing Rick said:

Alvin Shadow Creek made the state final in their first year and plays Highland Park. I know Shadow Creek is right next to Manvel (and in the same Alvin isd) but are there any players from last years Manvel team that now play for Shadow Creek?  Last years Manvel vs Hp was perhaps the best game I’ve ever seen. 

IIRC that Manvel team was very senior-loaded. I’m sure there are guys from the roster on SC, but I can’t imagine any of the impact players are. That’s not at all to dismiss them as a team, but I just don’t see this as a “rematch.”

[pacman 7512]

57 minutes ago, Ravishing Rick said:

Yeah agreed. It’s a big home field advantage to play the championships every year at AT&T. Just look a few years ago when they played at the Texans stadium and mostly Houston teams won. Really unfair to the rest of the state. And I say this as a resident of highland park so we certainly benefit. 

 

UIL probably get more money there so that’s probably your reason. 

That and there isn't enough uil staff to cover that many sites, unless you stagger game days over a weeks time.

[futureman 22719]

12 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

My older brothers senior year (2004 I believe), we played Allen in the quarter finals and lost. 5a at the time. We had just north of 2000 people in our high school. They had 4800. How the fuck does that even make sense. 

it’s the heavyweight division in boxing.  you may weigh 220, you’re still fighting the dude who is 6’9” 300#.

[cochamps 1887]

57 minutes ago, slorch said:

That's absolutely why, and i'm not saying it's invalid as a reason.

There's also a value in the kids getting to play at Jerrahworld and I am not discounting that either.

I just like looking at it the way things used to be. There are definitely both pluses and minuses in the equation.

Don’t disagree but I love being able to go to so many games.  Usually hit 8 or so, so much fun with about a dozen old Hs buddies.  We are old - in our 60’s.

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, pacman said:

That and there isn't enough uil staff to cover that many sites, unless you stagger game days over a weeks time.

????????Wat????????????

so there are not 12 people at UIL to hand out trophies?

Other than that, what game specific staff is needed?

Edited December 16, 2018 by slorch

[Nueces River Rat 5799]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

I know it ain't changin, but I still think AT&T Stadium as a central site is stupid.  it certainly is for the non- 5A and 6A teams and in those classes gives the DFW teams too much advantage. I like the idea of all fans travelling, not just one team's.

Here's my best guess at where the games would be held in the old set-up.   yes, i am aware that the bigger schools would flip for home field like Texas Stadium and the Astrodome, but I still went neutral site for the big boys. Consider how far JerrahWorld is from some of the truer neutral sites

Duncanville vs GP North Shore *  DKR Memorial

Longview vs West Brook *   Homer Bryce Stadium/SFA

Highland Park vs Shadow Creek *  DKR Memorial

Aledo vs FB Marshall *  DKR Memorial

LaVega vs Liberty Hill *  Temple/ Belton

Pleasant Grove vs Cuero  *  McLane Stadium, Waco

Malakoff vs Grandview  *  Ennis

Canadian vs Newton( 600 miles apart, holy shite!) AT&T Stadium actually works, but Birdville or Newsom at Mansfield would have been more likely.

New Deal vs Mason  *  Shotwell, Abilene

Gruver vs Mart  *  Fair Park, Childress

McLean vs Milford  *  Memorial Stadium, Wichita Falls

Follett vs Strawn  *  Fair Park, Childress

Agreed.   In 2016 when we (Calallen) played Aledo,  we had to travel 390 miles up I-35 which takes forever due to it being a constant construction zone on top of the volume of traffic vs Aledo who hoped on their Yellow beasts and made the short trip of 33 miles a couple of hours before the game.   So they get a full extra day to prepare, sleep in the comfort of their own homes, etc  while we had to leave on Thursday and get up there late and do a walk through at Arlington Martin High.   Yea the UIL is really looking at this thing at objective and neutral angle.  And let's not go into the great expense it was for the fans and the school district as well.    

We should of played that game at DKR under the old rules.  I don't give a chit what the UIL, Fox sports or the DFW area homers say about attendance draw and all that crap.  The state title games were not by design constructed to be an attendance draw.   If the UIL thinks it's vital to and fair to the rest of the state to move around title games for other sports or hold them at a central location like they always did in the Austin area and the UT campus, then why not go back to it with football.   Besides with today's technology, you don't need these huge production crew and all that to broadcast these games.  Some of the playoff games broadcast on Texan Live and NHSN have been great. Streaming allows you to put it on your big screen or take it with you anywhere.  

The other thing that bugs the hell out of me is the venue is allowed to be used for late round playoff games.   Sorry,    familarity with a venue is a big thing with these younger kids vs the older ones in the college and pro ranks.   Starting with round two, AT&T should be off limits for playoff games.  Period.    There are plenty of other venues to hold these games and if the weather has to be a factor, so be it.   When did we become wussies about the weather???????

[Surly Bevo 25778]

You think Aledo kids took yellow school buses to Jerryworld....that's cute.

[Nueces River Rat 5799]

20 minutes ago, pacman said:

That and there isn't enough uil staff to cover that many sites, unless you stagger game days over a weeks time.

Staffing isn't an issue.  The NCAA just had their title games for D2 and D3 in Texas venues far away from Indy.   When any championship is held, they assign a host school or conference and the staffs of those schools are used to help the NCAA with things like sports information, venue coordination, etc.   The Lone Star Conferene assisted in the D2 game yesterday in McKinney.   There are plenty of coaches and AD's around the state who would gladly assist in coordination with some incentive pay involved this time of year too.  A few additional  Benjis this time of year comes in handy.

[Nueces River Rat 5799]

2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

You think Aledo kids took yellow school buses to Jerryworld....that's cute.

Of course I said that tounge in cheek..  No they probably got the black lemo type buses .....

[hookem48 4857]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

They won a state championship in the 82-83 season. That year, they had Jerry Ball who played NT and RB and went on to star for the Detroit Lions. They also had Gerald Landry who started at QB for UH.

wasn't that the first year for the school? Like a Texas version of Remember the Titans?

[Bevo 13926]

3 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

wasn't that the first year for the school? Like a Texas version of Remember the Titans?

I don't know. I can't remember a thing after getting trucked by Jerry Ball. But, yes it was their first year, a merger between Hebert High School and Forest Park High School. It looks like they had another pro on that team, Darrell Colbert, a WR. They were also probably pretty good when James Brown and Frank Middleton were there and when Christine Michael and Taylor Reed were there.

[Nueces River Rat 5799]

7 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

Also, is it just me, or does Lake Travis' coach, Hank Carter, look a lot like Ed Orgeron?

But Hank Carter speaks the english language.  

[WJC88 97]

What's the list of two schools from the same district winning state in the same year?  

North Shore and West Brook have an opportunity to join that list.

[Helobious 9825]

3 minutes ago, WJC88 said:

What's the list of two schools from the same district winning state in the same year?  

North Shore and West Brook have an opportunity to join that list.

SA Roosevelt & Judson did it in the 90’s I think.

[MirrOlure 15314]

wasn't that the first year for the school? Like a Texas version of Remember the Titans?

Yes. That’s accurate. And...they lost their first two games

 

Supposedly the Remember the Titans story was initially to be based on BMT WB, but they never reached a deal with coach Durley’s family

[RiceOwl 74]

2 hours ago, WJC88 said:

What's the list of two schools from the same district winning state in the same year?  

North Shore and West Brook have an opportunity to join that list.

Uh, they’re like 70 miles apart.

[MirrOlure 15314]

Not the same school district...but they are in the same athletic district.

[Rustic Horn 929]

9 hours ago, Ravishing Rick said:

Alvin Shadow Creek made the state final in their first year and plays Highland Park. I know Shadow Creek is right next to Manvel (and in the same Alvin isd) but are there any players from last years Manvel team that now play for Shadow Creek?  Last years Manvel vs Hp was perhaps the best game I’ve ever seen. 

Manvel will get affected even more with Alvin ISD announcing plans for a 4th high school.  May open by 2022.

https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/pearland-news/article/Alvin-ISD-announces-plans-for-a-fourth-high-school-13461330.php

[Dennis Taylor 19382]

Texas City and LaMarque both won state in 97 in the 4A divisions ...LaMarque was still an ISD then but same uil district.  

TCISD absorbed LaMarque a couple years ago 

Edited December 16, 2018 by Dennis Taylor

[Bruh Man 3160]

They had it in Houston and attendance was down considerably. If you think they're just going to eat that loss to make you guys feel better then you're wasting your time.

[MalibuSheriff 1095]

13 hours ago, Bevo said:

They won a state championship in the 82-83 season. That year, they had Jerry Ball who played NT and RB and went on to star for the Detroit Lions. They also had Gerald Landry who started at QB for UH.

Man, Jerry Ball was a beast!  Whenever I hear some coach say 'so and so' defensive lineman is too short to play here, I think of the same dumbass who would pass a Jerry Ball.  Dude was like 5'10" and the most dominant defensive lineman in college football when he played.

[Ravishing Rick 1236]

19 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

They had it in Houston and attendance was down considerably. If you think they're just going to eat that loss to make you guys feel better then you're wasting your time.

 

Ok cool.  Have it in a central place like Austin.  

 

[cmontexas 3377]

Attendance would be even worse in Austin in December

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

They had it in Houston and attendance was down considerably. If you think they're just going to eat that loss to make you guys feel better then you're wasting your time.

That was never the point in my post, in fact having it in Houston would only exacerbate the issue.  That's why it was even less attended.

 

I would submit that attendance isn't the primary goal of UIL events, nor are TV numbers.  

[pacmanmakesitrain 91]

Southeast Texas as a whole has probably put out more talent per capita than anywhere else in the state. 

The local high schools have had some really good teams. The now defunct Beaumont French was the last team to win state in 1984. The thing with this area is that there has been a lot of individual talent but the high schools are not systems like Katy, Lake Travis, etc. The athletes are better but they aren’t coached the same.

Also, James Brown is the reason why I went to UT.

[Lonestar88 5183]

1 hour ago, slorch said:

I would submit that attendance isn't the primary goal of UIL events, nor are TV numbers.  

Lol.

[Dewey 3335]

How.many asses in the seats for Duncanville/North Shore? Close to 50-60k? Jerry and his art studio, with the UIL put on a good show.

[IDIOTsavant 8690]

4 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Texas City and LaMarque both won state in 97 in the 4A divisions ...LaMarque was still an ISD then but same uil district.  

TCISD absorbed LaMarque a couple years ago 

Crazy to remember this - La Marque finished 3rd in the district that year. Lamar Consolidated had Michael Lewis (best player I've ever played against) at QB and took second. La Marque had Roylin Bradley and Dwain Goynes that went to A&M. Texas City sent four kids (Tyrone Jones, Jermaine Anderson, Ervis Hill and Everick Rawls) to Texas after that season in Mack's transition class. Weirdly enough, the two best players on that Texas City team were the RB Adrian Daniels (grades I think) and a sophomore DT named Marcel Moses that was once committed to Texas but never made it to campus...damn, I officially an old. Also, Daniels went for over 400 total yards (I think like 330 of that rushing) in the state title game 

[The Ace of Aces 5377]

13 hours ago, slorch said:

I know it ain't changin, but I still think AT&T Stadium as a central site is stupid.  it certainly is for the non- 5A and 6A teams and in those classes gives the DFW teams too much advantage. I like the idea of all fans travelling, not just one team's.

Here's my best guess at where the games would be held in the old set-up.   yes, i am aware that the bigger schools would flip for home field like Texas Stadium and the Astrodome, but I still went neutral site for the big boys. Consider how far JerrahWorld is from some of the truer neutral sites

Duncanville vs GP North Shore *  DKR Memorial

Longview vs West Brook *   Homer Bryce Stadium/SFA

Highland Park vs Shadow Creek *  DKR Memorial

Aledo vs FB Marshall *  DKR Memorial

LaVega vs Liberty Hill *  Temple/ Belton

Pleasant Grove vs Cuero  *  McLane Stadium, Waco

Malakoff vs Grandview  *  Ennis

Canadian vs Newton( 600 miles apart, holy shite!) AT&T Stadium actually works, but Birdville or Newsom at Mansfield would have been more likely.

New Deal vs Mason  *  Shotwell, Abilene

Gruver vs Mart  *  Fair Park, Childress

McLean vs Milford  *  Memorial Stadium, Wichita Falls

Follett vs Strawn  *  Fair Park, Childress

Longview alone would sell out Homer Bryce today. They and Lufkin had 23,000 or so there years ago.