[Harris+Walz] The 2024 DNC: TURN DOWN FOR WHAT?!

Sawbonz · July 21

1 hour ago, Balcones said:

Trolling?

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1230453714/supreme-court-trump-colorado-ballot

The U.S. Supreme Court restored Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump to the Colorado primary ballot, ruling that the state lacked authority to disqualify him after his actions three years ago during the siege on the U.S. Capitol.

You mean 3 people Trump installed and a grifter who has taken millions in bribes invalidated the 10th amendment for a man who tried to overthrow our government

aggie08 · July 21

4 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

i was told for 6 years that donald trump was a threat to democracy. now the dems are are subverting the electoral process to get the candidate they want in? 80 million people voted for joe biden(including me) and now that they are so far behind in every poll they know theyre not going to win they force out a guy thats been in public service for 40 ish years so they can cherry pick who they want? thats called irony.

You're not a real person.

Longhorn_Fan68 · July 21

6 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

i was told for 6 years that donald trump was a threat to democracy. now the dems are are subverting the electoral process to get the candidate they want in? 80 million people voted for joe biden(including me) and now that they are so far behind in every poll they know theyre not going to win they force out a guy thats been in public service for 40 ish years so they can cherry pick who they want? thats called irony.

you know who else you voted for?

Js1 · July 21

The DNC, a private org, can choose their nominee however they want. The presumptive nominee removed himself. Trump’s team tried to get the 2024 Republican primary cancelled and name him the nominee

Same party and political ideology that a private business can discriminate now upset that a private organization will pick its nominee

Edited July 21 by Js1

McCroskey · July 21

Need to put 60 dems in a room and seal them in and go full conclave.

Js1 · July 21

3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

You're not a real person.

The talking points were passed out

Underdog · July 21

19 minutes ago, Goodman said:

Your throat can take the length, we’re all so happy for you.

Underdog · July 21

15 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

i was told for 6 years that donald trump was a threat to democracy. now the dems are are subverting the electoral process to get the candidate they want in? 80 million people voted for joe biden(including me) and now that they are so far behind in every poll they know theyre not going to win they force out a guy thats been in public service for 40 ish years so they can cherry pick who they want? thats called irony.

Get over it.

HOOKEM4 · July 21

The facist are mad, dare I say scared.

Edited July 21 by HOOKEM4
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David Dennison · July 21

17 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

i was told for 6 years that donald trump was a threat to democracy. now the dems are are subverting the electoral process to get the candidate they want in? 80 million people voted for joe biden(including me) and now that they are so far behind in every poll they know theyre not going to win they force out a guy thats been in public service for 40 ish years so they can cherry pick who they want? thats called irony.

This is how you know Republican voters are worried.

Dbeasy · July 21

2 hours ago, immamac said:

Imagine being so stupid that you don't understand how an open or brokered convention works

Oh I can easily imagine it because I’ve seen his moronic posts in the baseball thread.

2 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

Stop feeding the troll.

He’s not a troll. He’s just really that stupid.

1 hour ago, immamac said:

Jesus fucking Christ I'm banning you.

Thank the Lord. That idiot has been a waste of computer resources on this site for far too long.

Edited July 21 by Dbeasy

troph · July 21

1 hour ago, immamac said:

It's not done till the convention. Delegates cannot and should not be bound or voting prior to the convention. This is going to be a well regulated shit show, but a shit show nonetheless.

They actually may be bound until released by the candidate or a conscious clause is triggered. In this case Biden is declining the nomination so I assume auto released. But that’s based on what I hear not what I know.

A-Tex Devil · July 21

Of course it's going to be Kamala. Even if anyone was dumb/narcissistic enough to throw his/her hat in the ring, she has the CA delegation, which is massive. I imagine someone will throw a turd in the punch bowl in order to raise some campaign funds and get on that gravy train for a short while. But this will be a done deal by the convention. The Dems need to dot every I and cross every T to do this transition correctly because the GOP lawyers will be out in full force to try to fuck things up, and this SCOTUS may not care about a plaintiff's standing if it means flipping the election. Don't even open the door there. Do it to the letter of the law and relevant rules (which I think is what imma is getting at) through the convention.

Still - loving the GOP concern trolling that somehow votes are being thrown away when their guy tried to just shut down the whole primary process earlier this year. They seem so concerned about all the Dems votes not being counted earlier this year. I need that same concern come November given that is where the real threat lies.

Edited July 21 by A-Tex Devil

gmr548 · July 21

32 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

i was told for 6 years that donald trump was a threat to democracy. now the dems are are subverting the electoral process to get the candidate they want in? 80 million people voted for joe biden(including me) and now that they are so far behind in every poll they know theyre not going to win they force out a guy thats been in public service for 40 ish years so they can cherry pick who they want? thats called irony.

Hmm, where have I heard this before?

Ah, yes: https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3476977

Y'all need better talking points lulz

80 million people voted for Biden to be POTUS from Jan 2021 to Jan 2025 and that's what we will get. Was every president prior to the 70's not democratically elected because the parties didn't give a fuck about primaries? Has every politician that's ever resigned or refused a nomination subverted the will of the voters?

Next time you see lead paint chips recommended on Texags, remember you don't have to eat them just because all of your friends are.

Edited July 21 by gmr548

Slacks · July 21

This is absolutely going to SC.

While it was the right thing for Biden to step down, this is a Briar Patch for Trump. He doesn't even have to be right.

Mo Horn · July 21

Would be smart to have someone else, who actually knows that they aren't going to get the nomination, say they are putting their name up. Let them speak at the convention, and get votes. Then it wouldn't just be a fait de accompli that Harris is the nominee.

Welshy · July 21

3 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

It's a bit early to be drunk on a Sunday, chief

aggie08 · July 21

7 minutes ago, Slacks said:

This is absolutely going to SC.

While it was the right thing for Biden to step down, this is a Briar Patch for Trump. He doesn't even have to be right.

Good. Fucking do it. There's no one on the planet that understands that there's no such thing as bad publicity better than Donald Trump. Let's spend the next 4 months talking about the GOP trying to pull out all the legal stops because they're too scared* to face someone born post 1950. Every fucking night.

*this is exactly why I never liked Colorado and Washington trying to pull Trump off the ballot

mchookem · July 21

i don't understand the speculation about how it might even get to the courts? i mean...he won the primary, he declined the nomination, so now somebody else will be the nominee. i mean will they actually legitimately try to argue that there should be no democratic nominee? even in our insane timeline rn that's not gonna happen. you can't force someone to run for office.

Js1 · July 21

Somehow the argument will be that Biden both must be the nominee but should resign the presidency

mdmost · July 21

Biden must be compelled to be the nominee even if it kills him. Again, it's flood the zone with bullshit and lawsuits to see if any of it can get a foothold.

Sawbonz · July 21

27 minutes ago, Slacks said:

This is absolutely going to SC.

While it was the right thing for Biden to step down, this is a Briar Patch for Trump. He doesn't even have to be right.

What can SCOTUS rule? There is not a democratic nominee. Biden has ended his candidacy.

HOOKEM4 · July 21

Biden has to, in his official capacity, snuff out all that seek to threaten the republic. It is his constitutional duty. His hands are tied.

naija · July 21

on my TL, one of the not so surprising groups to worry about are Black men...

gmr548 · July 21

15 minutes ago, mchookem said:

i don't understand the speculation about how it might even get to the courts? i mean...he won the primary, he declined the nomination, so now somebody else will be the nominee. i mean will they actually legitimately try to argue that there should be no democratic nominee? even in our insane timeline rn that's not gonna happen. you can't force someone to run for office.

I think you're making a mistake in looking at it on the basis of merit as opposed to looking at ways the GOP can engage in ratfuckery.

wildcat09 · July 21

16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Somehow the argument will be that Biden both must be the nominee but should resign the presidency

It’ll have at least 3 scotus votes in support.

YGIFS · July 21

The 12th amendment clearly lays this process out. It's one of the cleanest written amendments in the whole Constitution. Plus it comes from 1804, an era that many justices have a hard-on for, the immediate aftermath of Marbury v. Madison.

-There are no longer primaries, or even general ballots, for the VP slot. It is treated as one federal ticket, administered by each of the states popular vote which feed into the EC. And then as a fail-safe the convention system comes along decades later which lasts until 1968. Which then evolves into this current primary system we've known for 56 years. In none of those incarnations, have voters cast ballots for a VP directly which then dictate the statewide electors vote their EC ballot. For a short while, you cast as an EC vote for both POTUS and VP, but that changed rapidly. And again, at no time, were "the people" ever voting separately any longer for a VP. And there was never any major party VP primaries.

the whole "Americans were duped, this is unconstitutional! they wanted Biden, now they get Harris! Fake!" Presidents select VP candidates every general election prior to, often before the convention. If something were to happen to that POTUS nominee/incumbent between the selection and the general (death, assassination, resigning, incarceration, etc.), the party can move up the VP to the primary spot or open up the convention. Nobody voted for Gerald Ford for VP.

gmr548 · July 21

4 minutes ago, naija said:

on my TL, one of the not so surprising groups to worry about are Black men...

Yeah this isn't surprising. Young black men, to be specific. This group was already gravitating to Trump and having a black woman is not going to help that at all frankly. Note I'm not talking about Trump winning this subgroup outright but getting 25%-30% of the black male vote.

The hope is that there's upside with youth, women, independents, and that the Democratic base - of which black women in particular are a foundational part - is energized. If that proves true it's a worthy electoral trade off. If it doesn't you were probably never winning the election anyway because those were the same groups Biden was failing to reach.

Gil Bang · July 21

I want President Harris, and I want Mayor Pete as Chief of Staff

Js1 · July 21

3 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Yeah this isn't surprising. Young black men, to be specific. This group was already gravitating to Trump and having a black woman is not going to help that at all frankly. Note I'm not talking about Trump winning this subgroup outright but getting 25%-30% of the black male vote.

The hope is that there's upside with youth, women, independents, and that the Democratic base - of which black women in particular are a foundational part - is energized. If that proves true it's a worthy electoral trade off. If it doesn't you were probably never winning the election anyway because those were the same groups Biden was failing to reach.

Yeah the Trump campaign getting prominent rappers in the fold is specifically to target young black men

Here’s hoping mama and auntie let them have it for thinking of voting Trump

Mo Horn · July 21

2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I want President Harris, and I want Mayor Pete as Chief of Staff

He's too valuable as a cabinet member.

UTGrad98 · July 21

11 minutes ago, naija said:

on my TL, one of the not so surprising groups to worry about are Black men...

I've been wondering about the foundation for this behavior for years. I've asked some of my black female friends and I couldn't get a firm answer. Is it the male dominance trump puts out that resonates with them? Male Hispanics, especially Cuban males also.have been said to be drawn to this way of thinking.....I guess even at the expense of their right to vote ?

naija · July 21

18 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

I've been wondering about the foundation for this behavior for years. I've asked some of my black female friends and I couldn't get a firm answer. Is it the male dominance trump puts out that resonates with them? Male Hispanics, especially Cuban males also.have been said to be drawn to this way of thinking.....I guess even at the expense of their right to vote ?

I could type a long answer as to why, but its rather simple; men don't take very well to women outperforming them.

Edited July 21 by naija

SydneyCarton · July 21

43 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

I've been wondering about the foundation for this behavior for years. I've asked some of my black female friends and I couldn't get a firm answer. Is it the male dominance trump puts out that resonates with them? Male Hispanics, especially Cuban males also.have been said to be drawn to this way of thinking.....I guess even at the expense of their right to vote ?

30 minutes ago, naija said:

I could type a long answer as to why, but it’s rather simple; men don't take very well to women outperforming them.

Would we be shocked if there’s a segment of black men who already don’t think they have any rights because of the system they live in?

Pancho · July 21

Huh?

Bozo_Casanova · July 21

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Huh?

It’s kayfabe and I am 100% here for it

Satchel · July 21

The more compelling speculation would be who Kamala picks for VP.

hobbes2702 · July 21

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

What can SCOTUS rule? There is not a democratic nominee. Biden has ended his candidacy.

It doesn’t make sense. There’s not even an argument to be made.

hobbes2702 · July 21

1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

Yeah this isn't surprising. Young black men, to be specific. This group was already gravitating to Trump and having a black woman is not going to help that at all frankly. Note I'm not talking about Trump winning this subgroup outright but getting 25%-30% of the black male vote.

The hope is that there's upside with youth, women, independents, and that the Democratic base - of which black women in particular are a foundational part - is energized. If that proves true it's a worthy electoral trade off. If it doesn't you were probably never winning the election anyway because those were the same groups Biden was failing to reach.

Trump will not get 30% of the black male vote.

Biff Tannen · July 21

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Somehow the argument will be that Biden both must be the nominee but should resign the presidency

When you think about the GQP and their broken Dunning-Kruger brains, it actually makes perfect sense.

Firemans4Horn · July 21

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

*this is exactly why I never liked Colorado and Washington trying to pull Trump off the ballot

Those were related to pulling an insurrection. Which he did.

Which in a normal democracy would be automatically disqualifying.

Pods · July 21

14 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Huh?

Fuck that puto.

SydneyCarton · July 21

16 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Huh?

lol good. Fuck him. Let him get fucking drug.

Welshy · July 21

20 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Huh?

POS gonna POS

Pato del Muerto · July 21

Black men are gonna vote opposite their mamas and gramamas?

Gil Bang · July 21

1 hour ago, Mo Horn said:

He's too valuable as a cabinet member.

The DOT is important, but there are plenty of very competent administrators that can do that job well. Unless you're gonna make him Sec. of State or something, he needs to be CoS

Edit: And, if you ARE gonna make him Secretary of State, tell the mofo to resign from DOT now and start studying Mandarin. He'd have it mastered before January

Edited July 21 by Gil Bang

Mo Horn · July 21

Just now, Gil Bang said:

The DOT is important, but there are plenty of very competent administrators that can do that job well. Unless you're gonna make him Sec. of State or something, he needs to be CoS

I would absolutely make him sec of state. He would be awesome

Biff Tannen · July 21

2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Unless you're gonna make him Sec. of State or something

Horn Dog · July 21

1 hour ago, UTGrad98 said:

I've been wondering about the foundation for this behavior for years. I've asked some of my black female friends and I couldn't get a firm answer. Is it the male dominance trump puts out that resonates with them? Male Hispanics, especially Cuban males also.have been said to be drawn to this way of thinking.....I guess even at the expense of their right to vote ?

News flash… young males of all races are irrational thinkers, gravitate toward poor role models, and do stupid shit. More at 11….

Creasy Bear · July 21

4 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

First page of that book.

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