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Just now, Loch Ness Monster said:

A bold franchise would trade Parsons as he's a great athlete but soft as tissue paper. Teams realize they can just tire him out in the running game and then he's cooked.

Soft is the Cowboys DNA though. Jerry will make him the highest paid defender in the NFL.

Micah is getting the tag. 

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40 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Cede Lamb, and Dak made lots of money yesterday.

That's what's important.

 

This ^^ He paid $150 million for a team now valued close to $10 billion. $tadium and parking lot$ are full win or lose. He does not care about W’s or L’s, just $$$$$.
 

  • Revenue
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    The Cowboys' operating income for 2023 was $564 million, which was a 60 million dollar increase from the previous season
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32 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

All of that is why it made perfect sense to let Dak walk (if you couldn't get him to waive the no trade), trade Ceedee, trade Micah, and use the extra money and all those picks to start rebuilding on both defensive and offensive lines first. Sign a journeyman Mayfield/Darnold type guy for $25 Mil a year and try to build a strong running game. 

Instead they loaded all of their cap on Dak and Ceedee with garbage lines for them to work with. It's an incongruent plan of building a roster. They're way too top heavy and don't have the room to build up DL now. 

He's talking about Rico

This would have been the ideal plan. I have been on board with trading Parsons but the best time to do it was this past offseason. This is now his 4th year and I would assume he wants an extension this offseason that will be very big. Not sure what the haul would be.

Could have gotten something for CD as he is a good WR that could be of value to someone.

Let Dak play out this season and move on.

But this front office does not want to deal with a total teardown rebuild. Can't even remember the last time we did that. First half of the 2000s? And even then, we never really tried to find the next QB for the future. We ran out the corpses of Bledsoe and Testaverde. Quincy Carter for one season. And a whole slew of junk before those 3. This front office is more comfortable with the known than the unknown. Except they misplayed it this time and we aren't even going to be good in the regular season as we have in the past. This is what happens when you ignore the glaring weaknesses. 

Romo/Witten/Dez/Ware = Dak/CD/Parsons/Diggs. Some good talent that can win a lot of regular season games. Even a few wild card wins but outside of that, nada.

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43 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

This would have been the ideal plan. I have been on board with trading Parsons but the best time to do it was this past offseason. This is now his 4th year and I would assume he wants an extension this offseason that will be very big. Not sure what the haul would be.

Could have gotten something for CD as he is a good WR that could be of value to someone.

Let Dak play out this season and move on.

But this front office does not want to deal with a total teardown rebuild. Can't even remember the last time we did that. First half of the 2000s? And even then, we never really tried to find the next QB for the future. We ran out the corpses of Bledsoe and Testaverde. Quincy Carter for one season. And a whole slew of junk before those 3. This front office is more comfortable with the known than the unknown. Except they misplayed it this time and we aren't even going to be good in the regular season as we have in the past. This is what happens when you ignore the glaring weaknesses. 

Romo/Witten/Dez/Ware = Dak/CD/Parsons/Diggs. Some good talent that can win a lot of regular season games. Even a few wild card wins but outside of that, nada.

yep. Jerry is on his last legs.  the teardown rebuild isn't something he wants to wait for.  He hired McCarthy in hopes he could turn Dak into a poor man's Rodgers and win a Super Bowl(or at least get to one).  the problem is it was almost all Rodgers and very little McCarthy.  

The OL and DL disaster is not something anyone on the team or the coaching staff is going to be able to overcome.

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yep. Jerry is on his last legs.  the teardown rebuild isn't something he wants to wait for.  He hired McCarthy in hopes he could turn Dak into a poor man's Rodgers and win a Super Bowl(or at least get to one).  the problem is it was almost all Rodgers and very little McCarthy.  
The OL and DL disaster is not something anyone on the team or the coaching staff is going to be able to overcome.
Yep lost in all this, well maybe not lost but not talked about as much, this OL stinks. Dak and CD are the big paid guys. Defense looks historically bad so those are the big talking points.

OL allows pressure all game long. They open very little holes for our shitty RBs. They aren't setting any type of edge.
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2 hours ago, StrippersAndNobelPrizes said:

This ^^ He paid $150 million for a team now valued close to $10 billion. $tadium and parking lot$ are full win or lose. He does not care about W’s or L’s, just $$$$$.
 

 

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    The Cowboys' revenue for 2023 was $1.2 billion, which was an all-time high and made them the NFL's highest-grossing franchise. This was nearly $400 million more than the Los Angeles Rams, who were second in the league. 
     
     
  • Operating income
    The Cowboys' operating income for 2023 was $564 million, which was a 60 million dollar increase from the previous season

I know him a little. I hang out with his daughter and her crew and her friends of friends. I was not invited to her wedding, but my friends were. I have had some cigar time with Jer though in the past few months.

Anyway, at this point, all he cares about is winning. He just has no idea how to do it… other than hiring a GM, and he’d rather feature himself in a gay porn vids than have the embarrassment of hiring a GM. Jerry knows what the team is worth but he has no idea what’s it’s fucking EBITDA is. He doesn’t care about selling tickets or parking or beers or merch. He may be a cartoon, but he’s not Mr Burns. He doesn’t care to be any richer, the argument is silly.

But speaking of silly, he is very much trying to luck into a Super Bowl win because he’s seen others do it. I say luck, because he knows he’s old and can’t entirely rebuild the roster. So he has to do it, more or less, with the same group of characters. He sees the Giants and Ravens and others as teams that caught the right groove with a veteran coach & QB combo and got a Super Bowl win. Thats his remaining mission. 

But like I said. He has no idea how to do that. He’s been playing roster whack-a-mole for decades. 

Some of my take is me projecting or trying to read between the lines. But in limited football conversation I’ve been a part of, money had absolutely nothing to do with it. He’s trying to win with his current core, and I think that it won’t work. But I hope I’m wrong. 

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52 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Yep lost in all this, well maybe not lost but not talked about as much, this OL stinks. Dak and CD are the big paid guys. Defense looks historically bad so those are the big talking points.

OL allows pressure all game long. They open very little holes for our shitty RBs. They aren't setting any type of edge.

I did like the hilarious discussion yesterday about if we had just paid Derrick Henry.  Anyone with any modicum of football knowledge that watches knows he'd be getting stuffed all over the place with our line.  Fuck, we've got 2 rookies and they are from Kstate and dirt burglar.  the left tackle in particular is going to be a bust.

i did enjoy the discussion though because anything that makes Jerry and jerry jr look like idiots is fine with me.

 

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11 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

I know him a little. I hang out with his daughter and her crew and her friends of friends. I was not invited to her wedding, but my friends were. I have had some cigar time with Jer though in the past few months.

Anyway, at this point, all he cares about is winning. He just has no idea how to do it… other than hiring a GM, and he’d rather feature himself in a gay porn vids than have the embarrassment of hiring a GM. Jerry knows what the team is worth but he has no idea what’s it’s fucking EBITDA is. He doesn’t care about selling tickets or parking or beers or merch. He may be a cartoon, but he’s not Mr Burns. He doesn’t care to be any richer, the argument is silly.

But speaking of silly, he is very much trying to luck into a Super Bowl win because he’s seen others do it. I say luck, because he knows he’s old and can’t entirely rebuild the roster. So he has to do it, more or less, with the same group of characters. He sees the Giants and Ravens and others as teams that caught the right groove with a veteran coach & QB combo and got a Super Bowl win. Thats his remaining mission. 

But like I said. He has no idea how to do that. He’s been playing roster whack-a-mole for decades. 

Some of my take is me projecting or trying to read between the lines. But in limited football conversation I’ve been a part of, money had absolutely nothing to do with it. He’s trying to win with his current core, and I think that it won’t work. But I hope I’m wrong. 

He could start by not making a mediocre QB the highest paid player in NFL history... twice.  

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If someone makes terrible management decisions for 30 years and never changes course, I have to assume they don't ultimately care about winning. Not even 1 NFC championship appearance in nearly three decades? We're not talking about even best team in football. Two fucking playoff wins in a row has been impossible for Jerruh since Jimmy left in the early 1990s.

Drafting a running back 4th overall over Ramsey then giving Zeke his huge 2nd contract was piss poor. So was paying Dak like he's Mahomes. And on and on. Idiot fans will think the Cowboys actually have a chance every year though and buy jerseys. 

 

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8 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

We have gotten our ass whipped 3x in a row at home now. 2 times this season and the GB playoff game. Found someone post these stats. Fucking putrid.


Averaging giving up 40 points a game
Averaging giving up 202 yds per game on the ground.
Opponents have scored 17 TDs against our Defense in this 0-3 stretch.
Opponents have scored on 22 of 27 possessions in those last 3 games at home.

 

So you're saying that dAk pReScOtT SuCkS aND iS OvErPaId. Every team pays their best players and still builds rosters. But not Dallas, can't afford $8 mil for a running back, so just blame the highly paid players. 

There is only one way any of this will ever change. Players need to stop signing contracts with Jerry and saying publicly that it's because of team management. Draftees also need to publicly make clear they do not want to play for Jerry Jones. Even then it's a long shot, but as long as these assholes keep taking Jerry's money he'll never get it through his fat fucking skull that he's the fucking problem.  

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23 minutes ago, 'stache said:

So you're saying that dAk pReScOtT SuCkS aND iS OvErPaId. Every team pays their best players and still builds rosters. But not Dallas, can't afford $8 mil for a running back, so just blame the highly paid players. 

There is only one way any of this will ever change. Players need to stop signing contracts with Jerry and saying publicly that it's because of team management. Draftees also need to publicly make clear they do not want to play for Jerry Jones. Even then it's a long shot, but as long as these assholes keep taking Jerry's money he'll never get it through his fat fucking skull that he's the fucking problem.  

Dallas doesn't have a best player on their roster. I'm joking of course, but referring to Dak as a best player, even relative to the hapless Cowboys, misses the point. Even if his contract dint affect signing better players, why would you pay him the league's richest contract when he isn't even a top 15 QB and has shown no indication of taking his game to the next level? 

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2 hours ago, Gucci_Suit said:

all he cares about is winning. He just has no idea how to do it… other than hiring a GM,

This sums it all up and tells me he is not serious about winning. Doing the same thing over and over for nearly 30 years and getting the same result, that is being stubborn. He also runs this franchise like the local small town grocery store. This was very evident in the All Or Nothing Amazon series that featured Dallas years back. He employs all his hillbilly family to make decisions that determine the outcome of this franchise. He takes draft advice from his grandson. No one in his family comes close to being qualified to be the GM of this team. Sure, Will McClay is dangled out there but the Jones family still makes the final decisions.

So Jerry does know how to win, he just chooses not to because he'd rather lose his way than win someone else's way. He is so desperate to have his fingerprints over this team. He wanted Jason Garrett to be his Tom Landry. Jason Garrett was hired as OC before we even hired Wade. That is unheard of. HC usually brings all his guys in. Nope, Wade was given that clown Garrett as his OC. Then Garrett deliberately sabotages Wade in 2010 and gets him fired after the GB loss on SNF. And we get Garrett as our HC for about a decade.

All of this tells me he doesn't really want to win. He's an egotistical maniac who only wants to win if he's in charge and gets all the credit. Jerry could hire a real GM and a whole team of people to make sure Dallas stayed on track and kept competing for Super Bowls but nope. And here we are 30 years later dealing with the outcome of his ego.

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2 hours ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Anyway, at this point, all he cares about is winning. He just has no idea how to do it… other than hiring a GM, and he’d rather feature himself in a gay porn vids than have the embarrassment of hiring a GM.

Well, then which is it? All he cares about is winning or all he cares about is his pride? They appear incompatible. 

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1 minute ago, TreatyOak said:

Dallas doesn't have a best player on their roster. I'm joking of course, but referring to Dak as a best player, even relative to the hapless Cowboys, misses the point. Even if his contract dint affect signing better players, why would you pay him the league's richest contract when he isn't even a top 15 QB and has shown no indication of taking his game to the next level? 

He's well inside the top 15 and in two years won't be in the top 10 highest paid, because that's how the contract market works currently. If you want to move on without Dak it's not because he sucks or because you need to save money it's because there's no hope here so long as Jerry Jones is around and can only hire worthless retread coaches. Nobody else will work for him. 

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23 minutes ago, 'stache said:

He's well inside the top 15 and in two years won't be in the top 10 highest paid, because that's how the contract market works currently. If you want to move on without Dak it's not because he sucks or because you need to save money it's because there's no hope here so long as Jerry Jones is around and can only hire worthless retread coaches. Nobody else will work for him. 

I could name 15 QBs I'd rather have, including retreads ike Andy Dalton. Dak has never shown that he can win the games that matter. And now he's the highest paid player in the league? Hey, as a Cowboy hater, I love it. Hope they sign him over and over. 

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

He's well inside the top 15 and in two years won't be in the top 10 highest paid, because that's how the contract market works currently. If you want to move on without Dak it's not because he sucks or because you need to save money it's because there's no hope here so long as Jerry Jones is around and can only hire worthless retread coaches. Nobody else will work for him. 

Here are 17 quarterbacks currently playing in the NFL I believe are better than Dak Prescott. Would love to hear what other people think of this list. 

  • Matthew Stafford
  • Geno Smith
  • Baker Mayfield
  • Lamar Jackson
  • Josh Allen
  • C.J. Stroud
  • Patrick Mahomes
  • Justin Herbert
  • Kirk Cousins
  • Andy Dalton
  • Jared Goff
  • Jordan Love
  • Sam Darnold
  • Jalen Hurts
  • Brock Purdy
  • Derek Carr
  • Justin Fields
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17 minutes ago, 'stache said:

LOL!!!! Dumbest post I’ve seen in a while but ultimately doesn’t mean anything in the context of this thread. This franchise is a career waster regardless of talent.

Please list the QB's I listed that are currently measurably worse than Dak? And I honestly forgot to list Rogers, whom I would rather have in a heartbeat over Dak. 

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

LOL!!!! Dumbest post I’ve seen in a while but ultimately doesn’t mean anything in the context of this thread. This franchise is a career waster regardless of talent.

If the Cowboys were going to win with Dak in a big way it would have been when he was dirt cheap. That was the window.

Window closed shut after the money came due and Jerruh Jerry'ed.

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4 hours ago, 'stache said:

So you're saying that dAk pReScOtT SuCkS aND iS OvErPaId. Every team pays their best players and still builds rosters.   

dak does suck and he is overpaid.  quarterback contracts are stupid and they will come down.  you’re a moron.

going back 12 years the only quarterback to win a super bowl with a ridiculous contract was stafford.  the rest were mahomes and brady who both took less, foles, wilson, flacco, and peyton.  beyond that you get into eli, brees, rodgers, roethlisberger, who were all paid near the top of the league, but they were making considerably less as a percentage of the cap than the awful contracts being given today.

the dak contract was horrible.  jordan love, trevor lawrence, tua, kyler, the list goes on.  they all are getting a considerably larger chunk of the cap than quarterbacks were getting 15-20 years ago.  the contracts are bad.  the dak contract was bad.  you don’t know shit about fuck and your wife is ugly. 

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2 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

The Washington QB is better than Dak and a lot cheaper. Will be able to build around him. 

They also sagely hired Kliff to be the OC. Kliff isn’t not a HC he is a great OC though. And he will be great for JD’s development. 
 

the truth is Jerruh’s ego won’t allow him to do what needs to be done. Sit back and let a real GM make the team work and get the right pieces to win. Hire the right coaches. 
 

he won’t allow it because he wants to say he coached the team. That any SB is all his doing. Hence welcome to the suck. 30 years of suck because this shithead can’t let go that he can’t win his way. Jeez

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34 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

They also sagely hired Kliff to be the OC. Kliff isn’t not a HC he is a great OC though. And he will be great for JD’s development. 
 

the truth is Jerruh’s ego won’t allow him to do what needs to be done. Sit back and let a real GM make the team work and get the right pieces to win. Hire the right coaches. 
 

he won’t allow it because he wants to say he coached the team. That any SB is all his doing. Hence welcome to the suck. 30 years of suck because this shithead can’t let go that he can’t win his way. Jeez

Thanks to adrenochrome and daily infusions of alien dna Jerry will be running the team 100 years from now.  130 years of suck.

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On 9/22/2024 at 7:37 PM, Vic Mackey said:

Can't afford $8mill a year, proceeds to sign CD to $34mill a year, Dak to $60mill a year.

Got it.

Henry would have been a great addition here. But nope, we went back to washed up Zeke and a bunch of no talent spares behind him.

We can't run the ball or stop the run. You will get ran off the field constantly with this setup.

Think of this.  Henry is $8 mil.  He’s paying Trey fucking useless Lance $5 mil to do zero.  And that could have paid Henry or found an FA DT and used the wasted list 4 pick on a solid RB.  Fuck you jerry.  

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4 minutes ago, futureman said:

dak does suck and he is overpaid.  quarterback contracts are stupid and they will come down.  you’re a moron.

going back 12 years the only quarterback to win a super bowl with a ridiculous contract was stafford.  the rest were mahomes and brady who both took less, foles, wilson, flacco, and peyton.  beyond that you get into eli, brees, rodgers, roethlisberger, who were all paid near the top of the league, but they were making considerably less as a percentage of the cap than the awful contracts being given today.

the dak contract was horrible.  jordan love, trevor lawrence, tua, kyler, the list goes on.  they all are getting a considerably larger chunk of the cap than quarterbacks were getting 15-20 years ago.  the contracts are bad.  the dak contract was bad.  you don’t know shit about fuck and your wife is ugly. 

I enjoy @'stache content and I hear what he is saying. It's really two different arguments. One is that the bloated QB contract is the new norm, and that it doesn't affect other salaries. I'll let the more learned debate that. The other is by what measure does Dak deserve to be treated as the centerpiece of a team. He doesn't show up in the big games, until the game is out of reach and he gets some great meaningless stats that the other team is happy to give up to get the game over. Perhaps a new start would help him. As everyone here has pointed out, Jerry Jones is the real problem, but that doesn't change the fact that paying Dak an enormous salary is detrimental to the team on many, many levels.  

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40 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

I enjoy @'stache content and I hear what he is saying. It's really two different arguments. One is that the bloated QB contract is the new norm, and that it doesn't affect other salaries. I'll let the more learned debate that. The other is by what measure does Dak deserve to be treated as the centerpiece of a team. He doesn't show up in the big games, until the game is out of reach and he gets some great meaningless stats that the other team is happy to give up to get the game over. Perhaps a new start would help him. As everyone here has pointed out, Jerry Jones is the real problem, but that doesn't change the fact that paying Dak an enormous salary is detrimental to the team on many, many levels.  

Stop quoting the troll, he adds nothing to the conversation. The Cowboys have been “out of reach” within the first quarter and a half of games because of putrid defense and shitty opening play calling without any adjustments when they don’t work. That affects qb play in case you hadn’t noticed. The point is that after Mahomes nobody on that list is clearly better than others accomplishment-wise. Stafford caught a great coach at a great time with good surroundings. Everyone else on that list has had some big seasons and also been accused of disappearing in big games (see multiple MVP Lamar Jackson, regressed Jalen Hurts, etc).
 

There are some on that list I’d prefer to Dak, but that’s not the choice (and half that list is laughable). It’s pay Dak or draft a rookie and play him immediately. That just isn’t a realistic choice unless you’re in full tank mode which Jerry clearly doesn’t want to do. The problem isn’t that he’s (for now) the highest paid player, they can still build a roster like everyone else, it’s that they are paying players and putting them in a system with useless retread coaches. Nobody young and innovative will put up with Jerrys bullshit.
 

So ultimately it doesn’t matter, pay, don’t pay, the franchise isn’t going anywhere. Every qb on that list would fail in Dallas under current management. Even Mahomes would probably have a ceiling under these clowns. Maybe he could get these losers to the conference title game on his own, but no fucking super bowls. Fuck Jerry Jones. He’s the problem, not the qb, not the contracts, it’s him and his toxic aura that infects everything and everyone around him. 

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Dak has probably the worst body language I've ever seen out of a QB. Just sits there doing nothing while his team gets drummed. No fire, no passion, no rallying the troops. That's what really pisses me off. The guy just isn't a leader. Nobody wants to rally behind him. That's a problem for any QB, let alone the highest paid player in the NFL.

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13 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Stop quoting the troll, he adds nothing to the conversation. The Cowboys have been “out of reach” within the first quarter and a half of games because of putrid defense and shitty opening play calling without any adjustments when they don’t work.

This is a fair post, and I agree with most of it, except for saying Dak is better than half my list. I think he is equal to them, but they don't come with the ridiculous salary. What I do take issue is you blaming the defense, coaching and not Dak. Many on YouTube have broken down his performance against Green Bay. From taking horrible sacks when he could have thrown the ball away and kept the team in field goal range, to staring down and throwing to the covered wrong player on his first INT to set up a short TD drive, to his' "I'm being paid by the mob to throw this game" pick six, Dak is the most responsible for putting the team in the 28-point first-half defect. It was all on Dak. Dude sucks. 

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