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3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I thought Kiper had him at mid 2nd round.  I know, Kiper, but who was saying top 20?

Yes Kiper did.  Dane Brugler and Jeff Cavenah(some others) had him as his best guard around 20. They rank them where they feel and hear they should.  No one really knows.  I don’t like the pick there but I don’t base it on “well the mocks said he’s Lower”. 
 

also another guard just went. So no. We couldn’t have gotten Booker later 

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4 minutes ago, blacklab said:

Drew sucking Jerry jones dick. 
a story as old as time

What the fuck?  I hate this pick.  Are you people even reading my god damn posts?

I'm the Dak guy. Not the Jerry jones guy. He’s literally sabotaging Dak by not adding weapons and refusing to improve in FA. 
 

the only thing I’ve said is about the damn trade back scenarios, of which they only had 1.  And it wasn’t a good trade “allegedly” Jesus. 

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5 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

for a half sec I thought we was going sanders at 12 

I didn’t see a guard coming tho 

Honestly, I wouldn't have been that mad. But I will confess that I have irrationally overhated Dak for some reason

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Their post presser is going to be all “the run game wasn’t a RB problem it was. A line problem”. And follow it up with “we like what we saw out of Tolbert and saw flashes out of Mingo!” 

 Fuckkkk

meanwhile Brock Hoffman was like a top 15 ranked guard on a a lot of metrics. 
 

they don’t NEED a guard. 

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The Cowboys best tackle by far is stuck at guard, and the starting tackles suck ass, so they overdrafted a guard, even though the other guard they started last year played well and is cheap, they signed a guard in free agency they like, and had another guard that was in close competition with the starting guard. 

The only way they seem like they could be better is with Smith moving to left tackle, figuring out which shitty tackle starts on the other side, and having a bunch of interior options.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, DougO said:

The Cowboys best tackle by far is stuck at guard, and the starting tackles suck ass, so they overdrafted a guard, even though the other guard they started last year played well and is cheap, they signed a guard in free agency they like, and had another guard that was in close competition with the starting guard. 

The only way they seem like they could be better is with Smith moving to left tackle, figuring out which shitty tackle starts on the other side, and having a bunch of interior options.

 

 

That would take some foresight.  

And also moving a guy that could potentially be a HOF at guard to Tackle(which he may be as well) 

think your right though.  Go Smith, Hoffman, Beebee, Booker and figure out RT to make it work.  Instead of worrying about both tackles sucking and covering you’re only doing one. 

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6 minutes ago, DougO said:

First time in my life I'm walking out on the draft, and the first round. I have no fucks left to give.

Wait…? THIS is the pick that sent you over the edge? You’re either dishonest or a hyperbole whore. 

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First time in my life I'm walking out on the draft, and the first round. I have no fucks left to give.

I did this last year. Only watched on thanksgiving day because I was at the in-laws and nothing else to watch. My sundays were way better. Of course I would look up the score Sunday evening or Monday, but I didn’t invest 3.5 hours watching vomit. I’m old enough to kind of remember Roger but mainly danny white so I’ve been watching for a minute.
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Dak the human being is hardly hateable at all. He's just not the player the idiot Cowboys are paying for. 
 

Sanders would have a hard time being remotely as stand up and classy as Dak iff the field. 

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The 1st Round is only for QB, WR, OT's, preferably LT, on offense. But, maybe Jeanty is an every down RB? I'm surprised a TE like Loveland went that high. Warren, not so much.

Defense for playmakers regardless of position.

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4 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

The 1st Round is only for QB, WR, OT's, preferably LT, on offense. But, maybe Jeanty is an every down RB? I'm surprised a TC like Loveland went that high. Warren, not so much.

Defense for playmakers regardless of position. 

have to admit I was surprised that 3 guards were chosen last night.

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To the Cowboys credit, we bitched when they drafted a Center early too. That turned out semi- OK. 

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They overdrafted Booker a little but it’s fine. Smith-Booker-Beebe-Hoffman-Guyton should be a good starting 5 and they can jettison Steele’s sorry ass after this season I think.

We’re talking about Jerry and Stephen. Could’ve been way worse. 

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Drew is screaming about Dak not having weapons, but the OL fucking sucked in the run game and pass game last season. No QB can succeed when he’s constantly under pressure from both the inside and outside.

 

I would rather they had drafted a T prospect and moved him to G (since the Ts sucked as bad as the Gs), but I understand the pick.

 

i think they wanted Jeanty, McMillian or trade back. When none of those were available they took the guy who was the best player on their board at their biggest position of need.

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12 hours ago, Drew said:

What the fuck?  I hate this pick.  Are you people even reading my god damn posts?

I'm the Dak guy. Not the Jerry jones guy. He’s literally sabotaging Dak by not adding weapons and refusing to improve in FA. 
 

the only thing I’ve said is about the damn trade back scenarios, of which they only had 1.  And it wasn’t a good trade “allegedly” Jesus. 

Maybe Jerry read the NFL.com draft profile. On the first line of Tyler's strengths,

  • Prototypical size and girth with elite length and massive hands.

He just couldn't pass on that.

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1 hour ago, lilMAC25 said:

Drew is screaming about Dak not having weapons, but the OL fucking sucked in the run game and pass game last season. No QB can succeed when he’s constantly under pressure from both the inside and outside.

 

I would rather they had drafted a T prospect and moved him to G (since the Ts sucked as bad as the Gs), but I understand the pick.

 

i think they wanted Jeanty, McMillian or trade back. When none of those were available they took the guy who was the best player on their board at their biggest position of need.

Here’s the thing the OL wasnt good but wasn’t the worst part of the team. I have no problem with them taking another lineman. Just not there. With 3 WRs that’ll make a bigger impact immediately. Or even a pass rusher.  
 

we are going to bitch and moan about the offense and never say they lack the weapons and eat up Jerry saying “well we can’t pay for them” which is bullshit. 

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2 hours ago, tokamak said:

They overdrafted Booker a little but it’s fine. Smith-Booker-Beebe-Hoffman-Guyton should be a good starting 5 and they can jettison Steele’s sorry ass after this season I think.

We’re talking about Jerry and Stephen. Could’ve been way worse. 

Yeah I never am mad a drafting OL.

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Booker will probably be damn good, that's not an issue. But at 12 a guard, and where the Cowboys are at this point, it is a massive misappropriation of draft capital. 

Teams with starting guards drafted in the mid rounds will be winning championships and have much more well rounded teams. The Cowboys will have the most OL in Pro Bowl, and the biggest part of the salary cap. That don't win shit.

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6 hours ago, Drew said:

Here’s the thing the OL wasnt good but wasn’t the worst part of the team. I have no problem with them taking another lineman. Just not there. With 3 WRs that’ll make a bigger impact immediately. Or even a pass rusher.  
 

we are going to bitch and moan about the offense and never say they lack the weapons and eat up Jerry saying “well we can’t pay for them” which is bullshit. 

I disagree. 
 

 

Dallas just lost a HOF G on top of the OL being not good.

 

again, I’d have taken the top available T and played him at G, but that’s just me.

 

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5 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I disagree. 
 

 

Dallas just lost a HOF G on top of the OL being not good.

 

again, I’d have taken the top available T and played him at G, but that’s just me.

 

that’s fair.  I think they had Booker as their top OL overall left.  So they took him. 

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13 minutes ago, Drew said:

Thats

that’s fair.  I think they had Booker as their top OL overall left.  So they took him. 

I’m guessing they’re praying that Henderson or Judkins falls to them at 2-12.

 

Or Luther Burden III

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15 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I’m guessing they’re praying that Henderson or Judkins falls to them at 2-12.

 

Or Luther Burden III

I honestly worry they’ll go DB(not as deep as WR and especially RB in this draft) 

or go DL again. 
 

im worried they honestly believe they’re fine in the WR room. Or think they have a trade lined up. 

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The Hall Of Fame guard that they lost played along with a hall of fame left tackle and a multiple All pro center, and other guys with accolades.

How many playoff games did they win? Two? Three? 

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The Cowboys best OL at this point would be:

LT - Smith, LG - Booker, C - Beebe, RG - Hoffman, RT - ? (somebody that sucks).

Booker played on the left side, so plugging him in Martin's spot is a bit of a transition, that is awkward for some players. He should play left guard. You let Guyton and Steele battle it out for RT. Maybe one of them sucks less this year.

Maybe that's the thinking. But it's probably too logical. 

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Just now, Drew said:

Cowboys going DL here based on all we’re seeing. Fucking. Shit. 

 

Just now, Drew said:

Didn’t even get the upgrade at DT. Went edge I’m sure. 

The best remaining does look Edge heavy. Maybe the Tenn RB. Quality has dropped off bigly at RB and WR.

Please, no aggy.

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Honestly DB was a bigger need than DE ugh. 
 

At least it’s another good player who probably will make an impact. But fuck they are missing the main blind spots. 

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I mean, I wouldn't hate it if it gets Parsons in OLB mode more often to play all over the field.

But they have one third round pick to get a starting RB and a number 2 WR.

And a right tackle, safety, etc...

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Yeah let me clear this kid is a good pick.  If they cowboys and taken a wr first I’d be giddy. 
 

I know the line makes or breaks it. But the cowboys have no weapons other the Lamb. 
 

please tell me they get at least one RB with some juice and trade for Pickens or some shit. 

1 minute ago, DougO said:

I'd feel a lot better if they had a fourth round pick.

Also this. They had offers to move back here and maybe get that.  
 

now they’ll probably trade a pick next year for one. 

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Their massive needs coming in were WR/RB/DB and they didn’t get either.  
 

They have 1 pick left to really address 3 spots.  Well I guess you could take 2 RBs in the 5th they would be an immediate upgrade too 

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5 minutes ago, Drew said:

Yeah let me clear this kid is a good pick.  If they cowboys and taken a wr first I’d be giddy. 
 

I know the line makes or breaks it. But the cowboys have no weapons other the Lamb. 
 

please tell me they get at least one RB with some juice and trade for Pickens or some shit. 

Also this. They had offers to move back here and maybe get that.  
 

now they’ll probably trade a pick next year for one. 

This guy really looks like a player, but their interior DL is still weak.

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