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8 minutes ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

Nobody had any interest in mccarthy when we hired him either

Or this time, passed over by Bears, and I read Saints are the last possibility, if they're desperate.

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I'm fucking done.  I'd have lived with Moore(though not really the right move)...or even Sala.

 

Deion would have least been an entertaining fuel to the fire that is this Circus.

 

This would be absolutely insane.  

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Schottenheimer seems like he's one of the biggest problems. The offense is so predictable. But I guess his name sounds like a decent coach.

I'm going to keep believing this is a tweener interview until they line up a more serous candidate. I mean, if you have to name an incumbent, Zimmer, or Al Harris, maybe. The defense was coming around, and Zim wasn't a horrible head coach for the Vikings.

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1 hour ago, Drew said:

I'm fucking done.  I'd have lived with Moore(though not really the right move)...or even Sala.

 

Deion would have least been an entertaining fuel to the fire that is this Circus.

 

This would be absolutely insane.  

This

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1 hour ago, Drew said:

I'm fucking done.  I'd have lived with Moore(though not really the right move)...or even Sala.

 

Deion would have least been an entertaining fuel to the fire that is this Circus.

 

This would be absolutely insane.  

Jerrah looks for a coach by unzipping his pants and then judging who sucks the hardest. He still dreams of getting the credit for an SB and a real coach that is seen as driving the bus is not what he wants. Parcells was hired to build the stadium and once that passed he was gone.

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If you’re an Aaron Glenn fan, he surprisingly left New York after his second interview with the Jets yesterday without being hired.  The Jets purportedly “weren’t going to let him leave the building” without being named the new head coach.  

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8 minutes ago, Minute Bull said:

If you’re an Aaron Glenn fan, he surprisingly left New York after his second interview with the Jets yesterday without being hired.  The Jets purportedly “weren’t going to let him leave the building” without being named the new head coach.  

The Jets under Woody Johnson are a shit show.

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David Moore mentioned in a podcast last week that Jerry just doesn't value what a coach can bring to a team vs a Pro Bowl WR or DE.  Goes all the way back to Jerry saying that 500 coaches could've won a SB with this team during the Jimmy split. 

Apparently he made a comment during week 17 referencing 500 coaches again.

Can you imagine  thinking coaching doesn't matter.  Fuck him.

 

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Jerry certainly loves his puppets. Of course Jerry doesn't value coaches. They take the spotlight away from him and it goes from how Jerry GM'ed the hell out of this thing and that's why they won vs a coach putting everything together to be the reason he and the players won. Jerry will forever be chasing the acclaim of being a football man. 

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Nobody had any interest in mccarthy when we hired him either

Nobody had any interest in Quincy Carter as a franchise quarterback but Jerry was the only one to see that and pull the trigger. So there.
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58 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

David Moore mentioned in a podcast last week that Jerry just doesn't value what a coach can bring to a team vs a Pro Bowl WR or DE.  Goes all the way back to Jerry saying that 500 coaches could've won a SB with this team during the Jimmy split. 

Apparently he made a comment during week 17 referencing 500 coaches again.

Can you imagine  thinking coaching doesn't matter.  Fuck him.

 

They don't matter in the Cowboys equation.  In that, Jerry is spot on.  The value assigned to wins is greatly diminished however, because of the Jerry Jones factor.

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1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

David Moore mentioned in a podcast last week that Jerry just doesn't value what a coach can bring to a team vs a Pro Bowl WR or DE.  Goes all the way back to Jerry saying that 500 coaches could've won a SB with this team during the Jimmy split. 

Apparently he made a comment during week 17 referencing 500 coaches again.

Can you imagine  thinking coaching doesn't matter.  Fuck him.

 

I mean, Barry Fucking Switzer bumblefucked his way to a ring so he might not be wrong at that point. Fuck Jerry though, I hope his death is short but painful af.

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As a born and bred Oiler Fan I have to watch fucking Tennessee bastardize the memory of my former hometown team.  And my newly minted competitive Texans still have a way to climb the mountain.  But I have hope!

If you are a Cowboys fan what hope do you have?  That Jerry dies?

Jerry's system is fantastic!  He makes most of the big decisions on personnel. He gives record breaking contracts that on a per snap basis have proven to be beyond stupid.  But he has the one thing he needs most!  A scapegoat!  IF 500 coaches could win it all, with Jerry's amazing personnel choices, why the fuck doesn't Jerry just step in for one season and coach the fucking team?  Because... that would eliminate his secret genius preservation mechanism.  A lack of actual accountability for the teams performance UNLESS it's the obvious genius of picking a team any of 500 coaches can win with!

Jerry owning the Cowboys, is the one light that takes the bitterness away from my painful Oiler saga...

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6 minutes ago, horn4life said:

If you are a Cowboys fan what hope do you have?  That Jerry dies?

Yes and that the public and media don't give Stephen one inch of rope when he thinks he can just slide over as the owner/GM and keep this going. 

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12 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yes and that the public and media don't give Stephen one inch of rope when he thinks he can just slide over as the owner/GM and keep this going. 

Well... Why would such a wonderful system of self aggrandizement without the downside of accountability be changed?  For Wins? For Championships?  Who do you think has groomed and taught the new grasshopper?

Your post actually brought a smile to this old Oiler face!

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Just now, horn4life said:

Well... Why would such a wonderful system of self aggrandizement without the downside of accountability be changed?  For Wins? For Championships?  Who do you think has groomed and taught the new grasshopper?

Your post actually brought a smile to this old Oiler face!

Sure but there's a massive difference in the rope Jerry is given in this town and what Stephen will be granted. Jerry built this all back up from an utter trash heap in 1988. There is a direct tie to the 3 Super Bowls with Jerry and the brand he helped build. Stephen won't get a honeymoon from the fans and media if he continues the abject mediocrity that his father has firmly entrenched in this franchise. 

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25 minutes ago, horn4life said:

And my newly minted competitive Texans still have a way to climb the mountain.  But I have hope!

Am too young to remember the Oilers and won't root for the Texans. They've always been such a Houston centric team, that if you have no ties to the town, you can't connect as a Texan from elsewhere.

I guess they similarly haven't reached a conference championship in the last 30 years.  

Unfortunately stuck with the Cowboys, warts and all.  I had a buddy who was a die hard Chiefs fan growing up, his whole room was decked out in red and yellow.  We used to tease him as this was the 90s in Austin TX, how could you not root for the cowboys? He's the one laughing now. 

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7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Sure but there's a massive difference in the rope Jerry is given in this town and what Stephen will be granted. Jerry built this all back up from an utter trash heap in 1988. There is a direct tie to the 3 Super Bowls with Jerry and the brand he helped build. Stephen won't get a honeymoon from the fans and media if he continues the abject mediocrity that his father has firmly entrenched in this franchise. 

So when do the fans stop coming?

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36 minutes ago, horn4life said:

As a born and bred Oiler Fan I have to watch fucking Tennessee bastardize the memory of my former hometown team.  And my newly minted competitive Texans still have a way to climb the mountain.  But I have hope!

If you are a Cowboys fan what hope do you have?  That Jerry dies?

Jerry's system is fantastic!  He makes most of the big decisions on personnel. He gives record breaking contracts that on a per snap basis have proven to be beyond stupid.  But he has the one thing he needs most!  A scapegoat!  IF 500 coaches could win it all, with Jerry's amazing personnel choices, why the fuck doesn't Jerry just step in for one season and coach the fucking team?  Because... that would eliminate his secret genius preservation mechanism.  A lack of actual accountability for the teams performance UNLESS it's the obvious genius of picking a team any of 500 coaches can win with!

Jerry owning the Cowboys, is the one light that takes the bitterness away from my painful Oiler saga...

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1 minute ago, Iceman said:

So when do the fans stop coming?

I think you're already seeing that but it's more selling their seats to the visiting fans. How many times this season did a home game seem like it had more away fans than home fans? Then again every Sunday home game morning I see morons doing their best Black Friday impressions for those dumb standing room only seats. 

For them to entirely stop coming? It would take multiple losing seasons. Texas Stadium was still full back in the Campo years. 

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19 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Sure but there's a massive difference in the rope Jerry is given in this town and what Stephen will be granted. Jerry built this all back up from an utter trash heap in 1988. There is a direct tie to the 3 Super Bowls with Jerry and the brand he helped build. Stephen won't get a honeymoon from the fans and media if he continues the abject mediocrity that his father has firmly entrenched in this franchise. 

Be careful what you wish for.  Team sucks under son.  Dallas won't give free money to Cowboys for whatever the next ask is.  Then you find out there is an agreement for a new Dell Stadium in Round Rock, and the logos for The Texas Cowboys start circulating...  Made me smile all over again!  Anyhow misery loves company I think we all can agree.

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1 hour ago, horn4life said:

As a born and bred Oiler Fan I have to watch fucking Tennessee bastardize the memory of my former hometown team.  And my newly minted competitive Texans still have a way to climb the mountain.  But I have hope!

If you are a Cowboys fan what hope do you have?  That Jerry dies?

Jerry's system is fantastic!  He makes most of the big decisions on personnel. He gives record breaking contracts that on a per snap basis have proven to be beyond stupid.  But he has the one thing he needs most!  A scapegoat!  IF 500 coaches could win it all, with Jerry's amazing personnel choices, why the fuck doesn't Jerry just step in for one season and coach the fucking team?  Because... that would eliminate his secret genius preservation mechanism.  A lack of actual accountability for the teams performance UNLESS it's the obvious genius of picking a team any of 500 coaches can win with!

Jerry owning the Cowboys, is the one light that takes the bitterness away from my painful Oiler saga...

I'm a former Luv Ya Blue Oilers fan who moved to SA in 1979. Was until the team moved to Tennessee and then they were dead to me. No ties to Houston so didn't GAF about the Texans. Moved to Dallas in 1998. I've been a passive fan of the Cowboys since Parcells and then Romo. I don't get too worked up by the team. Jerry entertains me, yes, but the only hope this franchise has is that he'll die and Stephen doesn't suffer from the same megalomania that his dad does. If he does, we're turbo-fucked because he's not as smart as his dad in many ways.

 

30 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I think you're already seeing that but it's more selling their seats to the visiting fans. How many times this season did a home game seem like it had more away fans than home fans? Then again every Sunday home game morning I see morons doing their best Black Friday impressions for those dumb standing room only seats. 

For them to entirely stop coming? It would take multiple losing seasons. Texas Stadium was still full back in the Campo years. 

I think it's starting. You could've bought tickets for the last game on StubHub or SeatGeek for like $30. But everybody will be bought back in for Week 1 next year. We'll just see how soon the wheels fall off assuming they do nothing to improve the team in the offseason. Again.

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6 hours ago, Minute Bull said:

If you’re an Aaron Glenn fan, he surprisingly left New York after his second interview with the Jets yesterday without being hired.  The Jets purportedly “weren’t going to let him leave the building” without being named the new head coach.  

Good sign of intelligence. He should move up on Jerry's list.

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15 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

That’s the best they could do I’d guess. No coach in their right mind would agree to coach a team Jerry Jones runs - it’s worse than coaching at Rice. 

At least at Rice you can make a run at a minor bowl win and parlay it to a bigger job.

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38 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I think you're already seeing that but it's more selling their seats to the visiting fans. How many times this season did a home game seem like it had more away fans than home fans? Then again every Sunday home game morning I see morons doing their best Black Friday impressions for those dumb standing room only seats. 

For them to entirely stop coming? It would take multiple losing seasons. Texas Stadium was still full back in the Campo years. 

I hadn't noticed re visiting fans but there will always be 80,000 willing to go to the stadium. If Jerry is paying attention, he'd notice that the Cowboys have had fewer and fewer SNF and MNF appearances in recent years along with more noon games instead of "America's Game of the Week" on Sundays. I assume NFL media payouts don't vary by tv ratings per game but any normal person would realize that interest in "America's Team" is waning even from the haters. 

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47 minutes ago, Iceman said:

So when do the fans stop coming?

plenty of empty seats the second half of this season, but Jerry still gets his cut by selling to the ticket brokers 

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7 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I hadn't noticed re visiting fans but there will always be 80,000 willing to go to the stadium. If Jerry is paying attention, he'd notice that the Cowboys have had fewer and fewer SNF and MNF appearances in recent years along with more noon games instead of "America's Game of the Week" on Sundays. I assume NFL media payouts don't vary by tv ratings per game but any normal person would realize that interest in "America's Team" is waning even from the haters. 

I can't speak for this year, b/c I didn't go to any games.  But in the past few years, teams w/ a large following who play the Cowboys in Dallas, have almost as big a fan presence as Cowboy fans.  So the selling of season tickets has been going on a while.

One of my best friends has had 2 season tickets since the early 90s.  I ususally go to 2/3 home games a year w/ him.  

This year he didn't attend one game.  He gave a couple of early games away to customers and sold the last 5 online.  

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

I mean, Barry Fucking Switzer bumblefucked his way to a ring so he might not be wrong at that point. Fuck Jerry though, I hope his death is short but painful af.

Watch a Football Life for Troy Aikman and the culture that was left behind by Jimmy is what won that Superbowl. As Troy said Jimmy use to be the bad guy and he had to fill in because Barry was retired on the job and nothing like the coach he was at Oklahoma according to Troy.

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3 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Of course it is. Jerry Jones is a cheap ass bitch when it comes to coaching staff. Shotty will do it for less than McCarthy. He goes after guys that no other team wants for anything because he can low ball them and they'll take him undercutting them at every turn. 

It's not a serious football team. It's basically a mirror of what's happening in the country. Nothing's serious with these people. Just grift

It's not that he's cheap.  As has been said numerous times, he wants to win but he wants ALL the credit.  

He'd rather drive this fucker into the ground than give anyone else an ounce of credit. 

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Well, it's not that he's just cheap. He is cheap as he wants to underpay any head coach for his team. But he also is cheap and wants all the credit. 

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And his son is even fucking worse.  Ya'll remember that even I was fucking done with them after last offseason...18 mil TOTAL spent in FA and they had quite a bit of Cap Space left over.  

They just are fucking cheap. From Coaches to players.  they don't want to pay and then it causes them to end up paying a third more than they would have if they had just done deals earlier, and then they can run to the media and cry about "not be able to afford to pay cause you see how much we had to pay this player?!?"

yeah no shit...you waited 2 years to late to sign Lamb, and Dak, and even Diggs.  You'll wait to pay Micah too and while it will NOT destroy the cap like the front office claims, they'll pretend it does, and have their little media cronies work up the stupid parts of this fan base that are gullible enough to be believe that "paying this player means we have no cap" which is fucking bullshit, and always has been.

There's ALWAYS work arounds in the cap.  Even after the Lamb/Dak signings they STILL Had a double digit amount of cap space to bring any ANYONE who could help this teams and refused to.

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8 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

The Jets under Woody Johnson are a shit show.

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2 hours ago, mdmost said:

I think you're already seeing that but it's more selling their seats to the visiting fans. How many times this season did a home game seem like it had more away fans than home fans? Then again every Sunday home game morning I see morons doing their best Black Friday impressions for those dumb standing room only seats. 

Jerry doesn't give a fuck who's sitting in those seats as long as they're spending money.

I realized I was getting played 15-20 years ago and stopped giving a a shit myself. People who continue to root for them deserve what they get.

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