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Just now, Iceman said:

Dak's cap hit in 2025 is 23MM higher than Mahomes.  Now apply those dollars versus actual productivity and not garbage time, and yeah... Additionally,  the context of my statement wasn't "Poor Cowboys can't afford to compete," but rather, "Dambass Cowboys dumped a shit-ton of salary on a turd."

Bro, the contract was built to be restructured.  Always.  If you don't like restructuring contracts, then blame Stephen, but there is no reality in which Dallas ever had any intention to pay 90m in one year....

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2025/1/24/24347393/dallas-cowboys-slaray-cap-space-2025-extensions-restructures-dak-prescott-ceedee-lamb-micah-parsons#:~:text=Dak Prescott (2025 Cap %3D %2489%2C896%2C666,option to add void years).

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7 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Bro, the contract was built to be restructured.  Always.  If you don't like restructuring contracts, then blame Stephen, but there is no reality in which Dallas ever had any intention to pay 90m in one year....

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2025/1/24/24347393/dallas-cowboys-slaray-cap-space-2025-extensions-restructures-dak-prescott-ceedee-lamb-micah-parsons#:~:text=Dak Prescott (2025 Cap %3D %2489%2C896%2C666,option to add void years).

Why the fuck would Dak do that lol? $231MM is guaranteed of the $240mm extension.

There is no option until 2027.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/19089/dak-prescott

 

 

 

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lol...this team sucks and they are going to get worse.  I think the players had at least a little bit of respect for McCarthy, but this coaching staff is a joke.  Besides, coaching was far from the worst thing about this team the last several years.  I hope they go full circle and go 1-15 this year.  Then Jerry dies and there is at least a moment of hope.  Stephen will squash it fairly quickly, but at least you'll have a few minutes/hours of hope.

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21 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Why the fuck would Dak do that lol? $231MM is guaranteed of the $240mm extension.

There is no option until 2027.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/19089/dak-prescott

 

 

 

Ice or Mr Iceman, I apologize, I thought you were just being difficult, but it's become clear, you simply don't understand how the shell game works in the NFL.  If any of my posts came off as pithy, it's because I've posted many times in this thread and years back around how to understand the economics of the NFL and specifically the Cowboys and how the Jones' have intentionally and let's face it, successfully, duped the fanbase into believing they're trying so hard but just can't get around the salary cap and therefore, it's not their fault..... they put the best team on the field that money can buy.  This is a farce and in reality, the Cowboys have turned into one of the cheapest teams in the NFL the last half dozen years (most of this is Stephen's influence). 

Specifically, if we want to tackle this subject, there's a few things to understand.  When the latest contract extentsion was hammered out with Dak (late and foolishly by Stephen FTR), it was built to allow the Cowboys to move money around the contract using common or standard restructures to create salary cap room at the team's behest..... not Dak's.  Dak obviously signed off on giving up this power because he (and his representation) understand it isn't going to have an deleterious effects on his money or his timing of him getting his money.  In fact, it's only improves his situation.  It also allows the organization to theoretically create some cap freedom to improve the team.  Dak signed on to being able to create flexibility in his contract for Stephen's use.  

I have no idea why twitter embed no longer works this way, but this link reviews the automatic conversion clause is Dak's contract:

\https://x.com/TheRealDA_Lee/status/1882910605411254618

This link goes into high level the possible amount of salary cap (based on salary cap projections) the Cowboys front office could create for 2025 using this automatic conversion clause:

https://x.com/corryjoel/status/1879180662504366176

What is a standard restructure:

https://www.newsweek.com/how-restructuring-nfl-contracts-works-1875079#:~:text="A typical contract restructure is,dead money into future years."

Now the choice is Stephen's and while the contact was built to be restructured, because of the way the 2024 season went down and because of Dak's injury, he may see this as a perfect opportunity to do very little restructuring at all, and then shift the blame to Dak if they want to create less "dead money" in the future (when the salary cap is expected to be well north of 300m) and cut him in 2-3 years.  Remember, they did something similar but not as drastic last contract and ended up paying up like fools.  They may end up in the same boat although Dak's health will dictate this.

Understanding what the media leverage points are:

https://x.com/ChrisSmithUSN/status/1883007079658729936

Seeing how they did this in the past:

https://x.com/CapologyDept/status/1636039237245059076

Now, is there a downside to restructuring?  There is, as you're pushing out accounted cap space into future years, when you expect the cap number to go up.... which it has precipitously.  

Example, the salary cap in 2021 was about 185m so a 40m cap hit that year was roughly about 21.5% of the cap.  You push it out 2 years, the cap was about 225m with 40m then taking up about 17.7% of the salary cap.  The salary cap because of TV revenues continues to escalate at an extraordinary level and teams understand this and project and push out money accordingly.  It's how teams like the Eagles or the Rams or the Vikings or the Lions or Chiefs can have highly paid impact players at almost every level (have to draft decently).  They all do it a little different but all of those franchises, while having to navigate tough cap waters, continue to spend money and put good teams on the field.  In conclusion, it's important to remember that this is all Stephen's decision..... whether Dak counts 90m this year or more like 52m in cap space for this year.  It was meant to be restructured but a terrible season and a lot of media criticism tends to make Stephen's tiny balls shrink up into his chest and he may be lookijng for a scapegoat. 

 

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@Patrick Bateman wall of fucking text.

Again, the Dak contract isn't a symptom of Jones shenanigans or earning sympathy from the fanbase.  It's a direct act of idiocy.  There's a huge difference.

Now, unless Jerry Jones has unlocked the LA Dodgers version of NFL contracts, yeah the percentage of the Cowboys salary cap going to a middling player who disappears at crunchtime is grossly higher than it should be.  the funny part, is Jerry probably thinks he is in Dodger land with working the numbers.

Evidently you do too.  Congratulations.  Dak Prescott owes them not one favor.  Fuck you pay me is the call, and he should not back off one cent.

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The Cowboys are $20mm under the cap in 2024, or 8th lowest in the league.  This supports your notion.  In 2025, they will be $4MM over the cap, or scheduled to be 6th highest in the NFL.  We'll see.

Again, why the fuck would Dak negotiate?  He's a fool to leave them with their money.

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3 hours ago, Iceman said:

Again, the Dak contract isn't a symptom of Jones shenanigans or earning sympathy from the fanbase.  It's a direct act of idiocy.  There's a huge difference.

 

Daks contract is what it is because that’s the market. But Jerry could have had these contracts done prior and been a little lower. Instead he waits and waits while other players keep raising the market around the league. talking about cowboys > cowboys success

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Agreed, because Jerry drove, or least participated in  that market.  It took one buyer, and Jerry was it.

I don't blame Dak for the financial side of things.  I just don't think Dak is the player he is being paid to be.

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44 minutes ago, raw dog said:

Is dementia setting in here? This hire is so off the charts bad. Jerruh still has final say on everything, right?

It’s not dementia. It’s lack of options as a result of lack of interest in the job from qualified candidates. 

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The league is littered with hot-shot young assistants that failed as head coaches in a fairly short time.

We won't know for a few years which from this crop of wunderkind geniuses Jerry should have hired. Then everybody will bitch about the guy he passed up, ignoring the majority that end up being JAG assistants again.

 

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1 hour ago, Firemans4Horn said:

The Brian Schottenheimer hire is the Jonathan Mingo of trades, the Taco Charlton of draft picks, the Terence Steele of contract extensions, the blinding 3pm glare of stadium designs. 

Well put.

 

52 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think you may be onto something. Idk if dementia but he definitely doesn’t seem like his normal self the past year. 

He's very old and relies more and more on Stephen to run the club from a day to day perspective.  Jerrah just likes the camera and microphones, but he does less now than he ever has in terms of dictating the future of the Cowboys.

 

31 minutes ago, DougO said:

The league is littered with hot-shot young assistants that failed as head coaches in a fairly short time.

We won't know for a few years which from this crop of wunderkind geniuses Jerry should have hired. Then everybody will bitch about the guy he passed up, ignoring the majority that end up being JAG assistants again.

 

While I understand the first point, I truly don't understand the 2nd.  We just hired a JAG assistant, so are you saying, we're ahead of the game because we didn't hire a hot-shot young assistant?  Guys like LaFleur or O'Connell or Ryans?  This cycle it would have been Ben Johnson with maybe Glenn behind him.  So, we're better off not taking our shot on a good young mind and gunning for mediocrity, tops?  My issue is besides maybe Jimmy (which wasn't objective either), we've actually never gone the hot-shot young coordinator or college coach in any real objective way.  It was always someone who was part of Jerrah's pretend family or a recycled old coach.  I truly would be curious to see an actual objective head coach search, we haven't had one in 60 years. 

 

23 minutes ago, Minute Bull said:

If Brian Scottenheimer’s last name was Jones would he even have been coaching in the NFL?  Wonder how many doors that name magically opened, in a business where your connections mean everything. 

Of course not, it's still a old white boys club.  Marty was actually a very good coach.  Everywhere he went, he turned around organizations and they won, he just could never get over the hump.  His son is a more charismatic, less intellectual, less instinctual version of his old man.  Nice enough guy to float around the club and have a spot, but no one really every thought he may get a seat at the head table, because his resume' is so shitty.

This was the strangest of hires. Guess he thought he'd get 2-3 years traction.

https://x.com/WerderEdNFL/status/1883576518078517520

Maybe Witten sees all the turmoil and says...... I'm good.

https://x.com/NickHarrisFWST/status/1883245648365158656

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1 hour ago, DougO said:

The league is littered with hot-shot young assistants that failed as head coaches in a fairly short time.

We won't know for a few years which from this crop of wunderkind geniuses Jerry should have hired. Then everybody will bitch about the guy he passed up, ignoring the majority that end up being JAG assistants again.

 


What in the actually fuck is your point? That instead of hiring a successful coordinator Jerry was right to hire a fucking spare that isn’t even a good coordinator? 

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Washington and Philly are playing for the right to go to the Super Bowl. We elevated our OC to head coach that no one wanted because our owner is just too cheap and too stubborn to give the team over to someone who could unlock it all. 

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11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Washington and Philly are playing for the right to go to the Super Bowl. We elevated our OC to head coach that no one wanted because our owner is just too cheap and too stubborn to give the team over to someone who could unlock it all. 

Hey, at least we're still better than the Giants 

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3 hours ago, mdmost said:

Washington and Philly are playing for the right to go to the Super Bowl. We elevated our OC to head coach that no one wanted because our owner is just too cheap and too stubborn to give the team over to someone who could unlock it all. 

With Kellen now in a Super Bowl. Escape the Cowboys and reach your goals.

So basically Schottenheimer in 5 years will be winning it all with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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9 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

“Best free agent signing of all time”
 

philly gm got game 

I laughed at him saying that while sitting next to a guy who signed with Tampa Bay and won them a Super Bowl.

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16 hours ago, futureman said:

I think that's unlikely from a guy who conceivably cares deeply about his legacy and also could drop dead at any point.  I would just call it pride and incompetence.

He cares deeply about himself and his ego. Not fans. Not winning. And he has single handily ruined the legacy of "America's Team."

If he remotely cared about this team, he would put curtains up. If he can't do something as simple as that, what makes anyone think he give a shit about anything but himself. 

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7 minutes ago, gofuckyourself said:

With Kellen now in a Super Bowl. Escape the Cowboys and reach your goals.

So basically Schottenheimer in 5 years will be winning it all with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Do we have a list of people escaping the Cowboys and going on to better things?

Dan Quinn

Dan Campbell

Kellen Moore

Who am I missing?

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23 minutes ago, Jameslaw121 said:

He cares deeply about himself and his ego. Not fans. Not winning. And he has single handily ruined the legacy of "America's Team."

If he remotely cared about this team, he would put curtains up. If he can't do something as simple as that, what makes anyone think he give a shit about anything but himself. 

caring about his legacy directly involves his ego.  he knows that if he wins another super bowl doing it his way that his legacy (in his eyes) as a football man with four championships is secure.  he's also very incompetent, and his pride precludes him from yielding to (or even seeing) certain things that may help him reach his ultimate goal.

he has discussed the curtains multiple times.  his reasons for not putting them up are also due to pride and incompetence.

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3 minutes ago, futureman said:

caring about his legacy directly involves his ego.  he knows that if he wins another super bowl doing it his way that his legacy (in his eyes) as a football man with four championships is secure.  he's also very incompetent, and his pride precludes him from yielding to (or even seeing) certain things that may help him reach his ultimate goal.

he has discussed the curtains multiple times.  his reasons for not putting them up are also due to pride and incompetence.

Yeah, I wasn't disagreeing with you. He's really just an incompetent old senile fool. who pretty much killed my NFL fandom

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