Manafort Trial

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

Weird.  Never heard of that.  (Individual chats with jurors). 

 

Also, too much supposition that guilty consensus had been reached on the others. 

Edited August 21, 2018 by SuingToGetAMessageBoard?

[David Dennison 18948]

He's proper fucked.

[SmokeyTheBear 5566]

Mistrial on the 10 counts

[Lagunamadre 1975]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

At this point what to do the other 10 counts even matter, assuming he's guilty on 8 counts. If he gets 15 years on the 8 counts, that's akin to a life sentence for a 70 year old.  

[jimmyjazz 46187]

Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

Mistrial on the 10 counts

Yeah, you hang onto that hope.

[LongestHorn 759]

Guilty!

[LongestHorn 759]

Guilty on 8 counts.

[SmokeyTheBear 5566]

Its being announced. Found guilty on at least 1 count right now. 

[jimmyjazz 46187]

Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

Not my hope at all. Being read out now. 

Do you know what a mistrial is?

[Lagunamadre 1975]

Guilty on 8 counts. Bye bye Paul you fucking crook. 

[SmokeyTheBear 5566]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, you hang onto that hope.

Not my hope at all. Being read out now. 

[Captainant 27796]

Guilty on 8 counts, mistrial on other 10 counts. That's manafucked. Going to prison AND have to keep spending money to defend himself.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[Washpark 176]

Just now, Captainant said:

Guilty on 8 counts, mistrial on other 10 counts. That's manafucked. Going to prison AND have to keep spending money to defend himself.

basically in for life. why not just do a plea deal on the last 10 now?

[jimmyjazz 46187]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

Guilty on 8 counts, mistrial on other 10 counts. That's manafucked. Going to prison AND have to keep spending money to defend himself.

Maybe Donald will loan him the money.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13523]

You have to wonder how many Paul Manaforts are out there that are performing some pretty questionable financial transactions but are smart enough to squirrel away enough money to not have to take on riskier behavior to earn more money.   

If he hadn't wasted all of his money, which led him to work with the Trump campaign, he would be living the good life.

[BurntOrange&White 40038]

Doesn’t he still have other outstanding charges that he has to go to trial for?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Bevo VIII said:

Doesn’t he still have other outstanding charges that he has to go to trial for?

Yes

[Lagunamadre 1975]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Maybe Donald will loan him the money.

He'll loan him a pardon. 

[SmokeyTheBear 5566]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Do you know what a mistrial is?

ahem

[Mojo Hand 4580]

Shooter McGavin's going to be eating pieces of shit for breakfast in prison. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26570]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Maybe Donald will loan him the money.

[LongestHorn 759]

Guilty on 5 charges of tax fraud, 2 charges of bank fraud, and one charge hiding foreign bank accounts.

Edited August 21, 2018 by LongestHorn

[Captainant 27796]

2 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Doesn’t he still have other outstanding charges that he has to go to trial for?

If the prosecution chooses to go to a new trial he will. I really hope they do just to keep turning the screws on him.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

So they didn’t convict on any of the bank fraud conspiracy charges.

[SmokeyTheBear 5566]

5 x tax fraud charges

1 x charge of hiding foreign bank accounts

2 x counts of bank fraud

1 x super juicy nothingburger with a side of witch hunt 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Bevo VIII said:

Why wouldn’t they? Was this round the most severe charges?

Nope

[Dahobbs 17685]

Just now, Captainant said:

If the prosecution chooses to go to a new trial he will. I really hope they do just to keep turning the screws on him.

Well, and that whole other trial in a different district that is actually more about the collusion issue. 

[BurntOrange&White 40038]

If the prosecution chooses to go to a new trial he will. I really hope they do just to keep turning the screws on him.

Why wouldn’t they? Was this round the most severe charges?

[Lagunamadre 1975]

1 minute ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

5 x tax fraud charges

1 x charge of hiding foreign bank accounts

2 x counts of bank fraud

1 x super juicy nothingburger with a side of witch hunt 

 

Switch over to the other channel where Cohen is admitting to a federal judge that Trump directed him to commit campaign finance violations if your hungry for more of a somthingburger. 

[lemonlime 5503]

1 minute ago, Bevo VIII said:

Why wouldn’t they? 

Because he's already facing over a decade in prison based on this trial.  Why risk a not guilty verdict for something that probably wouldn't result in any additional sentence even if he is found guilty at a second trial.  And there's already another trial pending on the other indictments this fall.

[4th&Five 41591]

 

[Ted Lange 16144]

Lots of swamp draining today!  What a corrupt piece of shut administration and there’s is lots more to come. Sad!

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

5 tax fraud * 3 years max

1 hiding foreign bank accounts * 5 years max

2 bank fraud * 30 years max

[DDD Dad 14351]

Here's a breakdown of all of the charges from Reuters:

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Well, and that whole other trial in a different district that is actually more about the collusion issue. 

Yeah, Manafort trial #2 is where the real shit is.  

Conspiracy to defraud the United States

Failure to register as a foreign agent 

Obstruction of Justice 

Money Laundering

Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice

Making false statements

Edited August 21, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[deech 2297]

Awesome sauce.  Merica.  If Mueller solely imprison Manafort and everyone else who has pled so far..... It's worth every penny. 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

surly headed for a breakdown

[jimmyjazz 46187]

15 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

ahem

I thought you were saying the whole thing was a mistrial -- my bad.  

[Paul Wesley 3289]

Fox News analyst right now on this verdict (paraphrased):

”no evidence of Russia collusion”

”strengthens president’s hand to not talk to Mueller.”

Then when the host (Cavuto) summarizes the news at the end of the hour:

”Once again, not about collusion, just about cash!”

Just so you guys know what your parents are hearing in case you chat about politics tonight.  

[atomheartbevo 89810]

21 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

Just so you guys know what your parents are hearing in case you chat about politics tonight.  

Trump's campaign rally tonight is going to be bigly.

[DDD Dad 14351]

Hard to believe that Manafort's guilty verdict could be overshadowed by another news story (especially a courtroom news story), but it was.

[ChiTownDoc 21167]

27 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I thought you were saying the whole thing was a mistrial -- my bad.  

I think you got our man Good Smokey, mixed up w evil Smokey - there was a Trumptard Smokey some while back...he's since migrated back to TxAgs I'm sure...

[Longhorn_Fan68 33900]

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I think you got our man Good Smokey, mixed up w evil Smokey - there was a Trumptard Smokey some while back...he's since migrated back to TxAgs I'm sure...

The rare quadruple post. nice.

Edited August 21, 2018 by Longhorn_Fan68

[jimmyjazz 46187]

5 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

I think you got our man Good Smokey, mixed up w evil Smokey - there was a Trumptard Smokey some while back...he's since migrated back to TxAgs I'm sure...

Yeah, I did, but that just let me jump to the easy conclusion that was wrong.  You're talking about Smokey1861#TrumpMAGA or something.

[Skyline 325]

Who could have seen this coming? /s

[TornACL 7722]

Great job you mouth breathing meat heads, for electing this absolute piece of human garbage to our highest office. 

Bravo. Read a fucking book or two before 2020.

[Biff Tannen 45745]

4 minutes ago, Skyline said:

Who could have seen this coming? /s

[Paul Wesley 3289]

I like to listen to the right-leaning networks immediately when a news story breaks.  

Very clearly, they were ready to pronounce "NO COLLUSION!" the instant the verdicts were reached.  I mean, they just drove that home over and over again in a way that seemed very obvious that these were ready-to-go talking points.  

.... and as I was typing that last sentence, Trump gets off a plane in West Virginia, walks to a Fox microphone and repeats that talking point pretty much verbatim before ad libbing some "witch hunt!"